August 8th, 2013 IRC Meeting

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Agenda

  1. Events
    1. 8/10 Defend the Fourth, 1pm+ - Boston Common
    2. North End Festivals
    3. 8/24 CryptoParty, 1pm - 3pm - e5, Boston - 9 Hamilton Place at Park st next to the Orpheum
    4. Freedom Rally, September 14 & 15 - Need organizers, announcement for volunteers
    5. Constitution Day Speakout, September 17, Boston
  2. Post-convention tasks
  3. August Tasks http://piratenpad.de/SKwdoMqk26
    1. Research what qualifies as an acceptable signature and other ballot access requirements
    2. Research DB & Community Site (Gregg)
    3. Get a list of the colleges in Mass. and what their requirements are to start a Pirate group (Kendra)
    4. Identify dates and requirements for 2014 Town & 2013 City elections
    5. Divide Mass. into 27 districts (Jason/John)
    6. Setup voter reg app (John)
    7. Min materials for College Groups
    8. Make How to Party videos
    9. Develop draft platform / planks
    10. Media strategy
  4. PassMassAmendment

Participants

  • Bluestreak, Lucia Fiero
  • Igel, William Fleurant, Arlington
  • jokeefe, James O'Keefe, Somerville
  • GarretK
  • ANONinMASS
  • JCFiero

Observers:

  • davidd

Summary

Events

  • srevilak & Kendra will talk at BRICnic

Post Convention Tasks

srevilak is talking with MM to get copies of his videos

Planning

Sunday Agenda

Meeting Minutes

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[9:02pm] jokeefe: agenda at http://masspirates.org/wiki/August_8th,_2013_IRC_Meeting [9:02pm] jokeefe: starting with ids [9:02pm] jokeefe: Jamie O'Keefe, Somerville [9:03pm] gregg: Gregg Housh, Malden [9:03pm] srevilak: Steve Revilak, presently in Brooklyn [9:03pm] jokeefe: BTW: here is the video os srevilak at the BRICnic last Sunday - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2HJMSwIlcE&feature=youtu.be&t=510 [9:04pm] srevilak: will I be embarrassed to watch it? [9:04pm] gregg: fyi, I will not know anything about my availability for the next couple weeks until tomorrow [9:04pm] gregg: my mom had a heart attack late last night and is still in the ICU in Dallas [9:04pm] gregg: so I might have to go down there [9:04pm] srevilak: gregg: sorry to hear [9:05pm] gregg: That and lavabit have made today a stressful day. [9:05pm] jokeefe: oh man, very sorry to hear it. Hope she makes a swift recovery [9:05pm] Igel- joined the chat room. [9:05pm] JCFiero left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [9:05pm] jokeefe: hi lgel [9:05pm] Igel-: Yaar [9:06pm] Igel-: ...on the Droid [9:06pm] Mars: M Williams - currently: PA [9:06pm] jokeefe: not sure srevilak, just got it. hopefully not since I was going to post it to the blog. [9:06pm] jokeefe: Ok, so a subset of the upcoming events is up on the agenda [9:07pm] Igel-: Hey J... What's up [9:07pm] jokeefe: agenda at http://masspirates.org/wiki/August_8th,_2013_IRC_Meeting [9:07pm] srevilak: jokeefe: sure, go ahead and put it up [9:08pm] mashe: Marc Shepard, MA [9:08pm] jokeefe: we have been asked to do a cryptoparty and propose 1-2 workshops at Digital Media Conference in October. so keep in mind workshop/panel ideas [9:09pm] jokeefe: we need people to work the table at Freedom Rally, 9/14 & 15 [9:10pm] Shidash: M. C. McGrath, Boston [9:10pm] jokeefe: srevilak - you are talking with MM about the videos this weekend, yes? [9:10pm] mashe: I can commit me +1 both days for the freedom rally. [9:11pm] srevilak: jokeefe: out of town this weekend. So, following weekend [9:11pm] jokeefe: ok, thanks, srevilak [9:11pm] jokeefe: Thanks mashe. Bluelustreak is going and I can make Sunday at least. Will put a post up soon. [9:11pm] Igel-: 2days ... Thats a first [9:11pm] jokeefe: yes, hope it works out. [9:12pm] jokeefe: August Tasks [9:12pm] jokeefe: - Research what qualifies as an acceptable signature and other ballot access requirements - anyone willing to do some research? [9:13pm] gregg: Tallyfox will be completed and ready for us to start using tomorrow btw. [9:13pm] gregg: ill get people setup with accounts then. [9:13pm] Kendra joined the chat room. [9:14pm] srevilak: howdy, Kendra [9:14pm] jokeefe: thanks gregg. hi Kendra [9:14pm] Kendra: Hi [9:14pm] jokeefe: So that answers Research DB & Community Site [9:15pm] jokeefe: Kendra, any luck getting a list of the colleges in Mass. and what their requirements are to start a Pirate group? [9:15pm] Bluestreak joined the chat room. [9:15pm] jokeefe: hi Bluestreak [9:15pm] Bluestreak: Hey [9:15pm] Kendra: Can I mail you something sometime tomorrow. I am out of time. [9:15pm] Kendra: Out of town that is. [9:16pm] jokeefe: Great, thanks, Kendra! [9:16pm] jokeefe: Agenda at http://masspirates.org/wiki/August_8th,_2013_IRC_Meeting [9:16pm] Bluestreak: I am in Medford [9:16pm] Bluestreak: Lucia Fiero REDACTED/Medford [9:16pm] jokeefe: how was the security talk, Bluestreak? And thanks for going to it! [9:17pm] Igel- left the chat room. (Quit: Bye) [9:17pm] Igel: re [9:17pm] Bluestreak: Awesome [9:17pm] Bluestreak: I asked to speak for a few minutes and they were happy to accomodates [9:17pm] Bluestreak: me [9:18pm] Bluestreak: I let everyone know that we have crypotparties [9:18pm] Bluestreak: (Im at a starbucks) [9:18pm] Bluestreak: and EVERYOEN took flyers [9:18pm] Bluestreak: there was like 70 ppl there [9:18pm] Bluestreak: They were all interested [9:19pm] srevilak: Bluestreak: that's great [9:19pm] Bluestreak: I made them laugh. Basically I killed. Enough info? [9:19pm] jokeefe: fantastic! [9:20pm] jokeefe: Has JCFiero talked with js0000 about making a district map of Mass? [9:22pm] Igel: i can scrape google for all edu/location/other in mass. [9:22pm] JCFiero joined the chat room. [9:22pm] jokeefe: that would be most helpful, lgel. When would you be able to do it? [9:23pm] Igel: now, [9:23pm] jokeefe: perfect. did you see http://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/ ? [9:23pm] gregg: also [9:23pm] gregg: http://www.univsource.com/ma.htm [9:24pm] JCFiero: hi, I must have been booted.. I have a poor connection. you asked about MassGIS?..this is Jason Fiero in NJ atm [9:24pm] Igel: oh... this is it. [9:24pm] jokeefe: lgel, nces.ed.gov gets a lot more things that would be useful to know about. say if we want to have meetings in libraries. [9:25pm] jokeefe: I would only grab places that are grades 9 and above, though. [9:26pm] jokeefe: JCFiero, yes MassGIS [9:26pm] JCFiero: yea, I didn't see your question I was disconnected [9:27pm] JCFiero: I've checked it out and it seems to have the reources/data layers in question so that I can work with David to divide the State into 7 areas for us to manage [9:28pm] Igel: is there an overlay of districts ? [9:28pm] JCFiero: then we can tie that to the universities and decide what schools to target .. other than the obvious ones [9:28pm] JCFiero: \yea [9:28pm] Igel: i can make a google map overlay or use geoip... [9:29pm] JCFiero: they have data layers for everything .. [9:29pm] jokeefe: that would be great, lgel [9:29pm] jokeefe: JCFiero - 9 areas would be a good start, easily divides into 27 [9:29pm] jokeefe: can be divided into 27 [9:29pm] JCFiero: ok 9 then [9:30pm] jokeefe: thanks [9:30pm] Igel: JCFiero: can i email you so i can contrib to this [9:31pm] jokeefe: JCFiero / lgel, you know how to contact each other? [9:31pm] JCFiero: aye [9:33pm] kit joined the chat room. [9:33pm] srevilak: ahoy, kit [9:33pm] kit: (ahoy everyone) [9:34pm] jokeefe: ahoy kit! [9:34pm] Mars: hey kit [9:34pm] jokeefe: great, JCFiero [9:34pm] JCFiero: hi K [9:35pm] Igel: arright. [9:35pm] jokeefe: JCFiero / lgel, think we can get the areas sorted out by next Thursday? [9:38pm] JCFiero: can try ... should be well into it.. [9:38pm] jokeefe: thanks [9:38pm] Bluestreak: Jason will be home next week [9:38pm] Bluestreak: I will help make sure it gets doe [9:38pm] Bluestreak: done [9:38pm] jokeefe: BTW: Looks like SilentMail is closing as well - http://silentcircle.wordpress.com/2013/08/09/to-our-customers/ [9:38pm] jokeefe: thanks, Bluestreak [9:39pm] jokeefe: i'll talk with js0000 about setting up the voter reg app [9:39pm] Igel: hi kit [9:39pm] JCFiero: are they being threatened with injunctions/penalties if they refuse to turn over data/encryption keys etc. to the govt? [9:39pm] jokeefe: 3.7 Min materials for College Groups - what do we need to add? [9:40pm] jokeefe: no, JCFiero - they are being preemptive [9:40pm] JCFiero: ok. [9:40pm] jokeefe: SMTP sends in plain text. [9:41pm] jokeefe: though contents can be encrypted - PGP as srevilak will show us [9:43pm] Igel: some clients are lame too -- they keep your IP address/computername in the message (mozilla thunderbird)... [9:43pm] Igel: dunno... i couldnt figure a way to prevent that. [9:44pm] srevilak: Igel: first received header will contain your public IP. No way to get around that, aside from using an anonymizer [9:44pm] srevilak: Nothing any MUA can do about that [9:45pm] Igel: Shidash: the boston globe reporter was asking about getting pgp set up... so she would never reveal sources etc. [9:45pm] jokeefe: materials for College Groups - what do we need to add? we have fliers, sign up sheets - http://masspirates.org/blog/help-build-the-party/organize/ [9:45pm] Shidash: lgel: What boston globe reporter? [9:46pm] Igel: at transparency toolkit talk... she was accross from me? [9:46pm] Shidash: lgel: Do you mean the NECIR reporter? [9:46pm] Igel: ooh, way off. [9:46pm] Bluestreak: Magiie [9:46pm] Bluestreak: Mulvelhille [9:46pm] Bluestreak: Maggioe Mulvvehill [9:46pm] Bluestreak: was her name [9:46pm] Shidash: I'll help her get PGP setup. She needs more than PGP, she needs stuff for storing documents too [9:46pm] Bluestreak: Maggie Mulvehill [9:46pm] Bluestreak: Dinking only coffee... really [9:47pm] JCFiero: Scrumpy here...8) [9:47pm] Igel: yeah she did mention that... [9:48pm] Igel: hmmph. alright off topic but yeah [9:49pm] jokeefe: anyone recommend graphic designers, besides those we know about? [9:50pm] Igel: i look forward to it... i use mailx all the time.. [9:50pm] JCFiero: graphic designers for?.. [9:50pm] Bluestreak: Blue said she was happy to help [9:50pm] Bluestreak: anytime [9:50pm] Bluestreak: <3 [9:50pm] Igel: the more graphic designers the better [9:50pm] JCFiero: yea.. Gregg Grubb might lend a hand if I ask nicely [9:51pm] srevilak: jokeefe: graphic designers for flyers and such? [9:51pm] kit: At Berkman we've been thinking of doing a legal / technical resource for journalists to protect their info and sources. We have a legal referral network of attorneys willing to help out for free or reduced fees. Is there anything like that for technologists? [9:51pm] Bluestreak: jpokeefe JCFiero Doc says "Hi!" [9:51pm] kit: the referral network, I mean [9:51pm] Bluestreak: Off topic sry [9:51pm] jokeefe: agreed lgel, the more the better [9:52pm] jokeefe: yes, srevilak [9:52pm] jokeefe: good idea kit [9:52pm] srevilak: jokeefe: I may know someone. Will talk to her next week [9:52pm] mashe: I can recommend a graphic designr or two [9:52pm] jokeefe: Hi, back to Doc, Bluestreak [9:52pm] Igel: same [9:53pm] jokeefe: mashe, srevilak, please ask if they are willing to help. many hands make light work, after all [9:54pm] jokeefe: BTW: I recommend - The Non-Designer's Design Book by Robin Williams [9:55pm] jokeefe: anyone know of a media list we could start ours off of? [9:56pm] srevilak: http://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/List_of_National_Media_Contacts [9:56pm] JCFiero: no... started making a small alternaive media list for Bluestreak before the Cam thing but never got very far [9:57pm] jokeefe: thanks, srevilak [9:58pm] srevilak: jokeefe: they're all national, but maybe we can grow into them [9:58pm] jokeefe: Bluestreak / JCFiero - if I send you the ones I have, would you compile a list with what srevilak gave and what you have? [10:00pm] JCFiero: <jokeefe> ok assuming you have quite a good list of local MSM contacts.. [10:00pm] jokeefe: it is a start [10:01pm] passstab joined the chat room. [10:01pm] jokeefe: hi passstab [10:01pm] passstab: hi jokeefe [10:02pm] jokeefe: pass stab, you in PA right? [10:02pm] jokeefe: dang autocorrect [10:03pm] Bluestreak: OK guys... I am going to sign off, if you don't mind. Thanks for attending JCFiero I hope you can stay until the end! [10:03pm] Bluestreak: Goodnight, all. [10:03pm] Bluestreak left the chat room. (Quit: Web client closed) [10:03pm] JCFiero: nite bb [10:04pm] passstab: jokeefe, correct [10:04pm] jokeefe: do you know Mars? [10:04pm] passstab: um, hi Mars ? [10:05pm] jokeefe: Mars is also in PA [10:05pm] Kendra: nite [10:05pm] jokeefe: just making introductions [10:05pm] jokeefe: that is pretty much what I have on the agenda since we need to find people to lead up tasks [10:05pm] jokeefe: anything else folks want to bring up? [10:05pm] passstab: Mars, #papp [10:06pm] kit: did the passmassamendment discussion happen? [10:07pm] jokeefe: is Terra here? [10:07pm] jokeefe: or are you familiar with it? [10:07pm] passstab: jokeefe, thanks [10:08pm] jokeefe: yr welcome [10:08pm] kit: I am familiar with the constitutional issues at the federal level and I have concerns about the proposed amendment [10:09pm] kit: You have to be really careful about this stuff, where you're changing fundamental elements of the bill of rights [10:09pm] kit: Eventually people came up with reasonable things, like the Sanders amendment [10:09pm] jokeefe: here is the proposed amendment if folks want to read it - http://passmassamendment.wikispaces.com/The+Language [10:09pm] kit: but if you just say "money is not free speech, the legislature can regulate it without constitutional safeguards" ... you have issues [10:10pm] kit: an extreme case being a law saying you can only donate to incumbents, or to the two major parties [10:10pm] kit: you need to build in content and viewpoint neutrality [10:10pm] jokeefe: very good point [10:11pm] kit: a similar (and actually harder) issue is what happens if you say "corporations have no constitutional rights" [10:11pm] kit: It would be totally reasonable to have a regime where that's true, and corporations have rights given to them by statute only [10:12pm] kit: but at present, we rely on the constitution for some corporate rights that are actually useful, like twitter's ability to challenge a subpoena for your information [10:12pm] kit: or the ACLU's ability not to have its files searched willy-nilly [10:13pm] kit: finally, as far as I know it's been the US Supreme Court applying the federal constitution to strike down anti-corruption laws, so I don't know that amending the Mass constitution would help [10:13pm] jokeefe: yes, since it was a Federal law clerk who made corps. people to begin with [10:14pm] jokeefe: <vastly simplifying> [10:14pm] srevilak left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [10:14pm] jokeefe: so basically, we need to think long and hard about this proposed amendment [10:15pm] kit: Those are the things I wanted to say. I really care a lot about the $ in politics issue, but had to stop working with some orgs that were reckless in their amendment language [10:15pm] jokeefe: thanks for the perspective, kit. [10:15pm] srevilak joined the chat room. [10:15pm] kit: yes, think carefully about the language, but I also don't yet see the case for changing the _state_ constitution [10:15pm] Mars left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:16pm] jokeefe: but, we are past our time, and it is time to adjourn. motion to adjourn, any seconds? [10:16pm] Kendra: second [10:16pm] gregg: seconds [10:16pm] mashe: seconded [10:17pm] srevilak: aye [10:17pm] jokeefe: any objections? [10:17pm] kit: nope [10:17pm] gregg: kit: very well stated [10:17pm] gregg: interesting perspective [10:18pm] jokeefe: ok, we are done for the evening. thanks all!

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