March 21st, 2013 IRC Meeting - Revision history

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 === Upcoming Meetups ===
-# LibrePlanet
+# LibrePlanet - srevilak will organize
-# PAXEast
+# PAXEast - jokeefe will organize
 === Committee Reports ===
 === Conference ===
-# Space
-# Topics & Speakers
+==== Space ====
 === Legislation ===

Jokeefe at 17:17, 21 March 2013

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 === Legislation ===
-Review of [http://www.malegislature.gov/Bills/188/Senate/S796 An Act updating privacy protections for personal electronic information]
+Started a review of [http://www.malegislature.gov/Bills/188/Senate/S796 An Act updating privacy protections for personal electronic information], but since it consisted only of the changes and not what is being changed, it proved to be more difficult to tackle it in a half an hour.
 == Meeting Minutes ==
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 [12:57] <jokeefe> true
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Jokeefe at 16:58, 21 March 2013

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	[12:34] <jokeefe> thank you. others?		[12:34] <jokeefe> thank you. others?
	[12:36] <srevilak> I can bring a WAP if we need a second one		[12:36] <srevilak> I can bring a WAP if we need a second one
			[12:38] <jokeefe> thanks. will ask for more folks to help as well.
			[12:38] <jokeefe> Moving on
			[12:39] <jokeefe> Legislation Review of An Act updating privacy protections for personal electronic information - http://www.malegislature.gov/Bills/188/Senate/S796
			[12:39] <aurelien> there is also http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml
			[12:40] <aurelien> and the CNR write by the french resistance during the second war
			[12:40] <aurelien> saying simply that all personnal communication are private.
			[12:41] <aurelien> it's in french ... http://fscorsica.org/DemocracyNow/CNR.pdf
			[12:41] <jokeefe> nice and simple
			[12:42] <aurelien> Jean Moulin have been tortured and killed by the nazi after that.
			[12:42] <srevilak> I've started reading S796. It's a bit tricky, lots of "in section X, strike Y, and insert the following". Not quite so nice and simple
			[12:42] <jokeefe> yes
			[12:42] <js0000> yeah- i took a look too and found it confusing
			[12:42] <srevilak> diff is SO much more efficient
			[12:43] <jokeefe> not so much for adds, though
			[12:43] <jokeefe> I like incontext diffs for these types of things.
			[12:43] <jokeefe> since we don't know the existing language well.
			[12:44] <jokeefe> we don't have to decide now.
			[12:44] <srevilak> I may go through the exercise of taking exiting law, applying the changes, and seeing what it says
			[12:45] <srevilak> If I have bandwidth over the next few days
			[12:45] <jokeefe> sensible.
			[12:45] <jokeefe> strikes me that the policy committee should review these. anyone want to join it?
			[12:45] <jokeefe> take existing laws, mark it up, write meta commentary.
			[12:47] <jokeefe> or check in law, make edits, show diff, write meta commentary
			[12:48] <jokeefe> keep meaning to get a https://github.com/ account
			[12:49] <jokeefe> srevilak, any idea if we could have a git server at mayfirst?
			[12:50] <jokeefe> of course github is free as long as it is public
			[12:50] <srevilak> jokeefe: I don't see why not
			[12:51] <srevilak> even if it's only git over ssh, that's just a matter of making a repository and setting up ssh keys
			[12:51] <js0000> git is distributed anyway
			[12:51] <srevilak> but gitosis could be fun to play with :)
			[12:51] <jokeefe> there is this: https://github.com/morrissinger/ma-laws
			[12:51] <js0000> gitosis?
			[12:51] <jokeefe> gitosis? i like it just from the name
			[12:51] * js0000 thinks it sounds like a social disease
			[12:52] <srevilak> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gitosis
			[12:52] <jokeefe> this looks interesting as well https://github.com/sethwoodworth/mass-legis-boston-public
			[12:54] <jokeefe> I think we have a talk. Using git to keep track of changes in legislation.
			[12:54] <srevilak> http://www.generalwill.org/, but that's more focused on annotation
			[12:55] <srevilak> https://blog.abevoelker.com/gitlaw-github-for-laws-and-legal-documents-a-tourniquet-for-american-liberty/
			[12:55] * js0000 has to run to a meeting
			[12:55] <jokeefe> take care js0000
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			[12:56] <jokeefe> I remember generalwill.org, does it do diffs?
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			[12:56] <srevilak> I'm not sure. Been a while since I've played with it
			[12:56] <srevilak> But the annotation, suggested changes facilities were kind of neat
			[12:57] <jokeefe> true
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Jokeefe at 16:38, 21 March 2013

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 * SplendidSpoon - Lauren Pespisa, Boxboro/Cambridge
 * jokeefe - James O'Keefe, Somerville
-* steverudy -
+* steverudy - Steve Rudolfi, Watertown, MA
-* ageis
+* js0000 - john saylor
-* js0000
+* Shidash - M. C. McGrath, Boston, MA
 Observers:
 * passstab - PA
 * aurelien
 * bsod
 * dan_
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 * Mozart
 * AdVATAR
 == Summary ==
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 [12:24] <jokeefe> hi OurAnonTimes
 [12:24] <+OurAnonTimes> Hello!

Jokeefe at 16:32, 21 March 2013

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	* SplendidSpoon - Lauren Pespisa, Boxboro/Cambridge		* SplendidSpoon - Lauren Pespisa, Boxboro/Cambridge
	* jokeefe - James O'Keefe, Somerville		* jokeefe - James O'Keefe, Somerville
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			* ageis
			* js0000
			* Shidash

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	* ~~ageis~~		* aurelien
			* bsod
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	== Summary ==		== Summary ==

Jokeefe at 16:24, 21 March 2013

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	[12:12] <jokeefe> Agenda at http://www.masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=March_21st,_2013_IRC_Meeting, we are on 2.		[12:12] <jokeefe> Agenda at http://www.masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=March_21st,_2013_IRC_Meeting, we are on 2.
	[12:12] <@SplendidSpoon> Lauren Pespisa, Cambridge/Boxboro		[12:12] <@SplendidSpoon> Lauren Pespisa, Cambridge/Boxboro
			[12:13] <jokeefe> The only other committee I report I know about is Welcoming
			[12:14] <jokeefe> black_van posted a request for interns and has found a site for an evening meetup.
			[12:18] <jokeefe> BTW: we are testing out https://www.loomio.org/ as a possible replacement to Liquid Feedback. email info@ if you want an account to help test it.
			[12:19] <jokeefe> BTW: SplendidSpoon, zby_home - either of you going to LibrePlanet or PAXEast? We have meet ups scheduled for them.
			[12:19] <jokeefe> Next 3. Conference
			[12:20] <+Dionysus> jokeefe: I'll be at pax
			[12:20] <@SplendidSpoon> Not Pax
			[12:20] <@SplendidSpoon> Maybe Libreplanet
			[12:21] <@SplendidSpoon> oh crap nvm
			[12:21] <jokeefe> ok, srevilak is organizing the meetup for LibrePlanet. I am doing it for PAX. will post details on the blog.
			[12:21] <jokeefe> srevilak, any further word on sites?
			[12:22] <jokeefe> Current state I know about is https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkPs3eiAOk5mdDlqRm90UWhRUUpPY1E4cC1icUU0a3c#gid=0
			[12:22] <srevilak> no further word, but I'll ping BHCC after this meeting
			[12:22] <jokeefe> thanks
			[12:23] <jokeefe> so what should we do about the fliers? just say, late June in Metro Boston?
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			[12:23] <jokeefe> thanks for checking srevilak
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			[12:24] <jokeefe> hi OurAnonTimes
			[12:24] <+OurAnonTimes> Hello!

Jokeefe at 16:13, 21 March 2013

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			[12:01] <jokeefe> ok, lets get started
			[12:02] <jokeefe> with ids - James O'Keefe, Somerville (give as much info as you want)
			[12:02] <srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA
			[12:03] <js0000> john saylor
			[12:03] <+steverudy> Steve Rudolfi, Watertown, MA
			[12:03] <Shidash> M. C. McGrath, Boston, MA
			[12:05] <jokeefe> So agenda at http://www.masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=March_21st,_2013_IRC_Meeting
			[12:05] <jokeefe> 1. Upcoming Meetups
			[12:06] <jokeefe> srevilak will be meetup contact for LibrePlanet, and I will do PAXEast. Will get a notice out about it soon.
			[12:06] <jokeefe> Contact him or me if you intend to go.
			[12:06] <jokeefe> 2. Committee Reports
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			[12:07] <jokeefe> hi zby_home
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			[12:07] <jokeefe> srevilak, want to talk about wiki update?
			[12:07] <srevilak> sure
			[12:07] <jokeefe> this is Democracy/IT committee stuff
			[12:07] <srevilak> As of last night, our wiki should be spam-free, or pretty darn close to spam free
			[12:08] <jokeefe> looked it to me. yay!
			[12:08] <srevilak> mayfirst (hosting provider we're moving too) has a nice canned mediawiki setup, but it's a slightly older version
			[12:08] <srevilak> plan is to export remaining pages (about 135 of them), and import into a new mediawiki instance
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			[12:09] <srevilak> Hopefully we can use mysqldump to migrate users accounts, but that needs to be tested
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			[12:09] <js0000> does the wiki get attacked, or is it just rabid spammers ... ?
			[12:09] <srevilak> js0000: attacked by rabid spammers
			[12:09] <srevilak> I guess we do wiki migration when jokeefe and I get together next
			[12:09] * js0000 nods and thinks "greedy b*stards"
			[12:10] <srevilak> set up new masspirates web site last sat, and working on mailing list migration
			[12:10] <srevilak> that's what I got
			[12:10] <jokeefe> good
			[12:10] <jokeefe> new blog at masspiratesweb.mayfirst.org, if you want to see it, much better
			[12:11] <jokeefe> 3dclay sent new image design, sent him comments, waiting on final version.
			[12:12] <srevilak> new blog looks really nice
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			[12:12] <jokeefe> need more stock images, since this new theme is more image intensive.
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			[12:12] <jokeefe> his SplendidSpoon
			[12:12] <jokeefe> s/his/hi/g
			[12:12] <@SplendidSpoon> Hey
			[12:12] <jokeefe> Agenda at http://www.masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=March_21st,_2013_IRC_Meeting, we are on 2.
			[12:12] <@SplendidSpoon> Lauren Pespisa, Cambridge/Boxboro

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	== Summary ==		== Summary ==

	=== Topics ~~for Sunday General Meeting~~ ===		=== Upcoming Meetups ===
			# LibrePlanet
			# PAXEast

			=== Committee Reports ===

			=== Conference ===
			# Space
			# Topics & Speakers

			=== Legislation ===

			Review of [http://www.malegislature.gov/Bills/188/Senate/S796 An Act updating privacy protections for personal electronic information]

	== Meeting Minutes ==		== Meeting Minutes ==

	<nowiki>		<nowiki>

Jokeefe at 15:56, 21 March 2013

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	== Agenda ==		== Agenda ==

			# Upcoming Meetups
			## LibrePlanet
			## PAXEast
	# Committee Reports		# Committee Reports
	~~# PAXEast~~
	# Conference		# Conference
	## Space		## Space