May 15th, 2018 IRC Meeting - Revision history

Jokeefe at 02:07, 16 May 2018

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	[10:06pm] Malt: yeah		[10:06pm] Malt: yeah
	[10:06pm] jokeefe: ok. shall we adjourn then?		[10:06pm] jokeefe: ok. shall we adjourn then?
			[10:06pm] Joe: I second
			[10:07pm] hvxgr_: Good night all.
			[10:07pm] Joe: Aye, good night
			[10:07pm] jokeefe: aye
			[10:07pm] Malt: night
			[10:07pm] jokeefe: good night all

Jokeefe at 02:06, 16 May 2018

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	[10:03pm] Joe: Though I will do it if you do not want to invest the time.		[10:03pm] Joe: Though I will do it if you do not want to invest the time.
	[10:04pm] Malt: i'd like to wait until we know they're happening		[10:04pm] Malt: i'd like to wait until we know they're happening
			[10:04pm] Malt: i have a feeling they might still fall through
			[10:04pm] Joe: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44133308
			[10:05pm] Joe: I am sure he will still meet with Trump and then do something dumb
			[10:05pm] Joe: He met with S.K.
			[10:05pm] jokeefe: one of them will
			[10:05pm] Joe: or both
			[10:05pm] jokeefe: tis true
			[10:05pm] jokeefe: we are at time. revisit next meeting?
			[10:06pm] Joe: Sounds good
			[10:06pm] Malt: yeah
			[10:06pm] jokeefe: ok. shall we adjourn then?

Jokeefe at 02:04, 16 May 2018

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	[9:52pm] jokeefe: none that I have seen		[9:52pm] jokeefe: none that I have seen
	[9:53pm] Joe: too bad		[9:53pm] Joe: too bad
			[9:53pm] jokeefe: yes
			[9:54pm] Malt:
			[9:54pm] jokeefe: Any week day evenings work ?
			[9:54pm] Malt: i sometimes have things mondays and thursdays, but not often
			[9:55pm] jokeefe: What about Wednesday?
			[9:55pm] Malt: thursday's going to be increasingly tricky in the future, my friend with freedom MA has asked me to help organize
			[9:55pm] Malt: should be fine
			[9:55pm] Joe: Wednesday works for me
			[9:56pm] Joe: We could do it tomorrow if you like, though again I have to do it after 7
			[9:56pm] jokeefe: Sorry, have a conflict
			[9:57pm] jokeefe: The 23rd at 9pm?
			[9:57pm] Malt: i thiiiiiink i'm busy then
			[9:57pm] Joe: how about next Tuesday at 8?
			[9:58pm] Joe: That way we will have a hard end time.
			[9:58pm] jokeefe: Unfortunately not
			[9:59pm] jokeefe: Does this Monday work for you, Malt?
			[9:59pm] Malt: sure!
			[9:59pm] Joe: 9pm?
			[9:59pm] Malt: ok
			[9:59pm] Joe: That works well for me too.
			[9:59pm] jokeefe: 9pm works
			[10:00pm] jokeefe: Monday at 9pm it is then. will schedule it and tell the national people
			[10:00pm] Joe: Perfect
			[10:00pm] jokeefe: I don’t have any other updates
			[10:00pm] Joe: I just wanted to do a statement for the peace talks
			[10:00pm] Joe: It seems the Trump/Kim talks are still on
			[10:01pm] jokeefe: ok, want to write one up and mail it out. I am quite in favor of ending the Korean War.
			[10:01pm] Joe: As much as I don't want to support Trump, I do support the ending of the fighting with N.K./S.K. as well less nukes in the world
			[10:01pm] Malt: i've still got friends over there
			[10:02pm] Joe: Do you want to write it Malt?
			[10:02pm] Joe: Your better at statements than I am.
			[10:03pm] Joe: Though I will do it if you do not want to invest the time.
			[10:04pm] Malt: i'd like to wait until we know they're happening

Jokeefe at 01:53, 16 May 2018

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	[9:35pm] jokeefe: to have time to review?		[9:35pm] jokeefe: to have time to review?
	[9:35pm] Pirate_Joe left the chat room. (Quit: https://webchat.pirateirc.net/)		[9:35pm] Pirate_Joe left the chat room. (Quit: https://webchat.pirateirc.net/)
			[9:36pm] Pirate_63228 joined the chat room.
			[9:36pm] Pirate_63228: Not sure what happened there
			[9:38pm] jokeefe: weird
			[9:38pm] Pirate_63228: I am on my wifu's comp, so who knows
			[9:40pm] Pirate_63228 is now known as Joe.
			[9:40pm] jokeefe: Would you prefer to defer the decision to next week, Pirate_Joe?
			[9:42pm] Joe: Nay, I doubt she would have taken the risk unless some shady shit was going on. I am happy to give her support for doing the right thing.
			[9:42pm] Malt: nice!
			[9:42pm] Joe: I just am not sure what was the full story is but I will know asap
			[9:43pm] Joe: As you may have guessed though, I am keen on the text with the bill.
			[9:44pm] Joe: It looks like a move to further put a hamper on Google's Youtube and similar platforms such as file sharing.
			[9:44pm] jokeefe: I will write up a statement and send it out for review then
			[9:45pm] jokeefe: Projects Status
			[9:45pm] jokeefe: Statements - update Malt?
			[9:45pm] Malt: They're ready to be posted
			[9:46pm] Malt: filled out the ally form for freedom MA, don't think there's one for safe patient limits
			[9:46pm] jokeefe: Do you want to post them to the blog?
			[9:47pm] Malt: I've long since forgotten my login, but sure
			[9:47pm] jokeefe: I’ll reset your password
			[9:47pm] jokeefe: thanks
			[9:47pm] jokeefe: Video Newsletter
			[9:48pm] jokeefe: What time this Sunday works for you all? The poll had two votes for 5pm, and 1 for the other times
			[9:49pm] Joe: I have my son for the next two weekends so unfortunately neither time works for me.
			[9:49pm] Malt: I just did it!
			[9:49pm] jokeefe: cool
			[9:49pm] Joe: We may have to do it without me.
			[9:49pm] Malt: There IS a form for safe patient limits, i'll post these once i hear from the groups
			[9:50pm] jokeefe: ARe there other dates that work better for you both?
			[9:50pm] jokeefe: thanks, Malt
			[9:51pm] Joe: My son is a handful so I would have to do it later in the evening. If that time does not work it's ok since this is one that does not need me.
			[9:51pm] Joe: The focus of this one is more of a longer and relaxed podcast about current events. Something that both you and Malt are much better at keeping on top of.
			[9:51pm] jokeefe: My late time on Sunday is probably 11pm
			[9:52pm] jokeefe: More fun with three
			[9:52pm] Joe: True
			[9:52pm] Joe: Any interest from our national party?
			[9:52pm] jokeefe: none that I have seen
			[9:53pm] Joe: too bad

Jokeefe at 01:36, 16 May 2018

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		[9:07pm] jokeefe: Agenda: https://masspirates.org/wiki/May_15th,_2018_IRC_Meeting
		[9:07pm] jokeefe: ids
		[9:07pm] jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Somerville
		[9:07pm] Pirate_85981: Joseph Onoroski, Lowell
		[9:08pm] jokeefe: anything to add?
		[9:10pm] hvxgr_: No.
		[9:10pm] Pirate_85981: Peace talks with North K.
		[9:10pm] hvxgr_: (Tom Rodman / Milwaukee)
		[9:10pm] Malt: samuel capradae, worcester
		[9:11pm] jokeefe: Not looking hopeful Pirate_85981
		[9:11pm] jokeefe: Review
		[9:11pm] jokeefe: Museum of Science Cryptoparty
		[9:11pm] Pirate_85981 is now known as Pirate_Joe.
		[9:12pm] jokeefe: Nearly 60 people
		[9:12pm] Malt: whoa!
		[9:12pm] hvxgr_:
		[9:12pm] Malt: good work everyone!
		[9:13pm] jokeefe: It went well and heard another group asked me to speak
		[9:13pm] jokeefe: Hopefully another one next year
		[9:13pm] jokeefe: We’ll see
		[9:14pm] Pirate_Joe: I think that's great though
		[9:15pm] jokeefe: MassMesh Tech Meeting - Got two wifi access points working. Weekly tech meetings now. Hopefully we will have how to instructions soon
		[9:15pm] Malt: nice
		[9:16pm] Pirate_Joe: ^
		[9:17pm] jokeefe: Decisions/Endorsements
		[9:17pm] jokeefe: S.2823 - A bill to modernize copyright law, and for other purposes
		[9:18pm] jokeefe: Looks like Congress is trying to extend copyright on recordings further back in time
		[9:18pm] Malt: again
		[9:18pm] Malt: ??
		[9:18pm] Pirate_Joe: or include more online things
		[9:19pm] Pirate_Joe: they may try and put a hamper on internet trolls like how they are doing in Britian
		[9:19pm] jokeefe: streaming services would need to get licenses for recordings from 1923 to 1972
		[9:19pm] Malt: well that's not so bad
		[9:19pm] Malt:
		[9:20pm] Pirate_Joe: it is actually
		[9:20pm] Pirate_Joe: it's really bad
		[9:20pm] Pirate_Joe: Fair use will go right out the window and Disney will win
		[9:21pm] jokeefe: one effect
		[9:21pm] jokeefe: Giving recording copyright to dead people
		[9:22pm] Malt: whattttt
		[9:22pm] Pirate_Joe: Yup
		[9:22pm] Pirate_Joe: So you would have to pay the estate of the maker
		[9:22pm] Malt: so perpetual copyright
		[9:22pm] Pirate_Joe: Yup
		[9:22pm] jokeefe: getting close
		[9:23pm] jokeefe: so any objections to opposing it and trying to get our senators/reps to oppose it?
		[9:23pm] Pirate_Joe: I oppose
		[9:24pm] Pirate_Joe: Though I would be interested in seeing the actual wording of it.
		[9:24pm] Malt: noine
		[9:24pm] jokeefe: I linked to both bill texts
		[9:25pm] jokeefe: Pirate_Joe, so you oppose the bill or oppose opposing the bill?
		[9:25pm] Pirate_Joe: I oppose the bill though the wording is not on congress.gov quite yet
		[9:26pm] Pirate_Joe: I just think I already know the usual suspects and this fast one they are trying to pull.
		[9:26pm] jokeefe: if they don’t include the text, it cannot be good
		[9:26pm] Pirate_Joe: no bueno
		[9:27pm] jokeefe: Here is the house bill text https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/3301/text?r=1
		[9:27pm] Malt: that'll make for a fun read
		[9:28pm] jokeefe: ok, I will write up a statement and put up a petition
		[9:28pm] jokeefe: Free Reality Winner
		[9:29pm] jokeefe: We never decided to whether to support her case
		[9:29pm] Pirate_Joe: Please also post this petition to Change.org or when it is done I will do it.
		[9:29pm] Malt: i support her work
		[9:29pm] jokeefe: bill or reality winner?
		[9:30pm] Malt: she's next in line to be chelsea manning
		[9:30pm] Malt: winner
		[9:30pm] Pirate_Joe: bill
		[9:30pm] jokeefe: ok, will do, Pirate_Joe
		[9:30pm] Pirate_Joe: Ty sir
		[9:31pm] Pirate_Joe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_Winner
		[9:31pm] jokeefe: https://theintercept.com/2017/12/05/reality-winner-trial-nsa-russia-election/
		[9:32pm] jokeefe: https://standwithreality.org/
		[9:32pm] jokeefe: thoughts?
		[9:33pm] Malt: i'm baffled she's not more popular
		[9:34pm] Pirate_Joe: I do not know enough of the situation, this is the first time I have heard of her.
		[9:34pm] Malt: i mean probably had something to do with getting caught so quickly
		[9:34pm] jokeefe: Would you prefer to defer the decision to next week, Pirate_Joe?
		[9:35pm] jokeefe: to have time to review?
		[9:35pm] Pirate_Joe left the chat room. (Quit: https://webchat.pirateirc.net/)

Jokeefe at 17:56, 15 May 2018

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	[https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/2823?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22S.+2823%22%5D%7D&r=1 S.2823] would extend some cherry-picked parts of federal copyright to cover sound recordings made between 1923 and 1972, which are currently covered only by a patchwork of state laws. It would force streaming services to get licenses for those recordings, even though all that does is create a new subsidy for rightsholders (which are usually record labels and not artists) and make it harder for music fans to listen to old recordings. [https://act.eff.org/action/stop-another-expansion-of-copyright-tell-the-senate-to-vote-no-on-s-2823 EFF action page]		[https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/2823?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22S.+2823%22%5D%7D&r=1 S.2823] would extend some cherry-picked parts of federal copyright to cover sound recordings made between 1923 and 1972, which are currently covered only by a patchwork of state laws. It would force streaming services to get licenses for those recordings, even though all that does is create a new subsidy for rightsholders (which are usually record labels and not artists) and make it harder for music fans to listen to old recordings. [https://act.eff.org/action/stop-another-expansion-of-copyright-tell-the-senate-to-vote-no-on-s-2823 EFF action page]

			The House Bill is [https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/3301/all-info?r=1 H.3301] which doesn't appear to have been approved yet.

			Now would be a good time to oppose these bills, make a petition and meet with MA House Reps. and Senators.

	=== Free Reality Winner ===		=== Free Reality Winner ===

Jokeefe at 17:52, 15 May 2018

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	[https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/2823?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22S.+2823%22%5D%7D&r=1 S.2823] would extend some cherry-picked parts of federal copyright to cover sound recordings made between 1923 and 1972, which are currently covered only by a patchwork of state laws. It would force streaming services to get licenses for those recordings, even though all that does is create a new subsidy for rightsholders (which are usually record labels and not artists) and make it harder for music fans to listen to old recordings. [https://act.eff.org/action/stop-another-expansion-of-copyright-tell-the-senate-to-vote-no-on-s-2823 EFF action page]		[https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/2823?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22S.+2823%22%5D%7D&r=1 S.2823] would extend some cherry-picked parts of federal copyright to cover sound recordings made between 1923 and 1972, which are currently covered only by a patchwork of state laws. It would force streaming services to get licenses for those recordings, even though all that does is create a new subsidy for rightsholders (which are usually record labels and not artists) and make it harder for music fans to listen to old recordings. [https://act.eff.org/action/stop-another-expansion-of-copyright-tell-the-senate-to-vote-no-on-s-2823 EFF action page]

			=== Free Reality Winner ===

	== Projects ==		== Projects ==

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== Review ==

=== Museum of Science Cryptoparty ===

=== MassMesh Tech Meeting ===

== Decisions/Endorsements ==

=== S.2823 - A bill to modernize copyright law, and for other purposes ===

[https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/2823?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22S.+2823%22%5D%7D&r=1 S.2823] would extend some cherry-picked parts of federal copyright to cover sound recordings made between 1923 and 1972, which are currently covered only by a patchwork of state laws. It would force streaming services to get licenses for those recordings, even though all that does is create a new subsidy for rightsholders (which are usually record labels and not artists) and make it harder for music fans to listen to old recordings. [https://act.eff.org/action/stop-another-expansion-of-copyright-tell-the-senate-to-vote-no-on-s-2823 EFF action page]

== Projects ==

=== Statements ===

=== Video Newsletter ===

Week in review set for Sunday. What time?

=== Party Conference ===

=== Computer Donations ===

https://piratenpad.de/p/MassPiratesComputerDonations

== Statements In Process ==

* MA [https://malegislature.gov/Bills/190/H3641/ Bill H.3641: An Act relative to electronic tolling] - Approved our opposition to it. Past position is to remove the tolls on the Pike since it has long been paid for.
* US S.1241 - Combating Money Laundering, Terrorist Financing, and Counterfeiting Act of 2017 - Approved our opposition to S.1241. Need statement (Joe)

== Other To Dos ==

=== FOSS Tutorials ===

Worcester farm group is interested in having some FOSS tutorials. Perhaps:
* how to do basic labels in GIMP,
* work through a few sample spreadsheets related to seed cost and
* similarly applicable real-world situations, depending on the needs of the group

Basically how to do graph design & product management with open source tools. Malt will put together a one paragraph description of what we need and we can mail it out to ask pirates to help.

=== Tech/Outreach ===

* email Loomio invite to supporters (jokeefe)
* set up torrents for PirateCon videos (creynolds)
* post remaining audio for PirateCon talks (srevilak)
* finish setup of myBB (jokeefe)
* install slack alternative (jokeefe)

== Upcoming Events ==

* 5/15, 7-9pm, ''Mass MeshNet Tech Meeting'', [https://www.industry-lab.com/ Industry Lab], 288 Norfolk St, Cambridge
* 5/22, 7-9pm, ''Mass MeshNet Tech Meeting'', [https://www.industry-lab.com/ Industry Lab], 288 Norfolk St, Cambridge
* 5/29, 7-9pm, ''Mass MeshNet Tech Meeting'', [https://www.industry-lab.com/ Industry Lab], 288 Norfolk St, Cambridge
* 5/30, 6-9pm, ''[https://www.cryptoparty.in/boston Somerville Cryptoparty]'', The Sprouts, 339R Summer Street, Somerville
* 6/5, 6-9pm, ''[https://www.cryptoparty.in/boston Somerville Cryptoparty]'', The Sprouts, 339R Summer Street, Somerville
* 6/7, 6pm, ''Mass MeshNet General Meeting'', [https://www.industry-lab.com/ Industry Lab], 288 Norfolk St, Cambridge
* 6/27, 6-9pm, ''[https://www.cryptoparty.in/boston Somerville Cryptoparty]'', The Sprouts, 339R Summer Street, Somerville
* '''Cambridge Pirate Meetup'''
* '''Democracy/IT meeting'''. Email info@masspirates.org for the location
* '''Somerville Pirate Meetup'''

== Participants ==

=== Observers ===

* ChanServ
* igel
* hvxgr

== Summary ==

== Minutes ==

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