November 28th, 2017 IRC Meeting - Revision history

Jokeefe: /* Summary */

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Summary

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	Endorsed the Net Neutrality / Verizon Protests. Will encourage members to organize events in their area and post video/pictures. Need to discuss locations at the next meeting.		Endorsed the Dec 7th Net Neutrality / Verizon Protests. Will encourage members to organize events in their area and post video/pictures. Need to discuss locations at the next meeting.

	Section 702: Endorsed the full expiration of Section 702, though we appreciate the positive steps in the USA RIGHTS Act.		Section 702: Endorsed the full expiration of Section 702, though we appreciate the positive steps in the USA RIGHTS Act.

Jokeefe: /* Summary */

2017-11-29T03:16:55Z

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			Endorsed the Net Neutrality / Verizon Protests. Will encourage members to organize events in their area and post video/pictures. Need to discuss locations at the next meeting.

			Section 702: Endorsed the full expiration of Section 702, though we appreciate the positive steps in the USA RIGHTS Act.

			Fundraising: jokeefe will email the list asking for people help with a fundraiser in Dec/January/February time frame. Email will suggest they contact Joe to help. We are exploring a dinner / dance and/or a sponsored hack-a-thon.

			Campaign Trainings:
			* jokeefe will get invite out for 12/9 campaign training at Holyoke and FB event;
			* jokeefe is looking for location for the January training and has some leads;
			* jokeefe may have some other trainers who can help.

			Possible item to discuss at the next meeting: [http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/11/the-supreme-courts-cell-phone-tracking-case-has-high-stakes.html the supreme court's hearing on cell location data]

	== Minutes ==		== Minutes ==

Jokeefe: /* Minutes */

2017-11-29T03:08:43Z

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	[10:05pm] Joe: Jamie, may I contact you.		[10:05pm] Joe: Jamie, may I contact you.
	[10:06pm] jokeefe: thanks all. I’ll post the minutes		[10:06pm] jokeefe: thanks all. I’ll post the minutes
			[10:06pm] admech: Night all.
			[10:06pm] Ross: good night
			[10:06pm] BlackbeardsGhos: g'night everyone
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			[10:06pm] davidspicoli: night
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			[10:06pm] Joe: Night
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			[10:06pm] Malt: night
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Jokeefe: /* Participants */

2017-11-29T03:08:20Z

Participants

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			* jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Somerville
			* Joe: Joseph Onoroski, Lowell
			* BlackbeardsGhos: Adam Seaman, Southwick
			* hvxgr: Ahoy. Tom Rodman (Milwaukee WI), mostly observing
			* davidspicoli: Andrew Creighton Cortland, NY
			* Malt: Sam Capradae, Worcester
			* admech

	=== Observers ===		=== Observers ===

Jokeefe: /* Minutes */

2017-11-29T03:06:22Z

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	[10:04pm] jokeefe: we are at time. shall we adjourn with a lot to do?		[10:04pm] jokeefe: we are at time. shall we adjourn with a lot to do?
	[10:04pm] admech: Agreed.		[10:04pm] admech: Agreed.
			[10:05pm] BlackbeardsGhos: aye
			[10:05pm] davidspicoli: aye]
			[10:05pm] hvxgr: Agree/good night all.
			[10:05pm] Joe: Aye
			[10:05pm] jokeefe: aye
			[10:05pm] Joe: Jamie, may I contact you.
			[10:06pm] jokeefe: thanks all. I’ll post the minutes



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Jokeefe: /* Minutes */

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 [9:57pm] jokeefe: go for it
 [9:57pm] Joe: or walmart
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 [9:46pm] jokeefe: BlackbeardsGhos, can you ask for the meetings to be rescheduled so you can attend are there other members who are in your situation?
 [9:46pm] Joe: Also good point Jamie
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 [9:19pm] admech: ahoy all
 [9:19pm] jokeefe: on https://masspirates.org/wiki/November_28th,_2017_IRC_Meeting#Sec._702_Update
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Jokeefe at 02:20, 29 November 2017

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			[9:01pm] jokeefe: agenda: https://masspirates.org/wiki/November_28th,_2017_IRC_Meeting
			[9:01pm] jokeefe: ids
			[9:01pm] jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Somerville
			[9:02pm] Joe: Joseph Onoroski, Lowell
			[9:02pm] BlackbeardsGhos: Adam Seaman, Southwick
			[9:02pm] hvxgr: Ahoy. Tom Rodman (Milwaukee WI), mostly observing
			[9:02pm] davidspicoli: Andrew Creighton Cortland
			[9:02pm] davidspicoli: NY
			[9:02pm] davidspicoli: observing
			[9:03pm] Malt: Sam Capradae, Worcester
			[9:03pm] jokeefe: Anything to add ot the agenda?
			[9:03pm] Joe: Nay
			[9:04pm] Malt: crypto cafe at the worcshop next weds
			[9:04pm] Malt: I've lost the URL for the website we use for mailers so I haven't poked the locals about it
			[9:05pm] jokeefe: thanks for the reminder. will mail flyers and buttons
			[9:05pm] jokeefe: Decisions/Endorsements
			[9:05pm] jokeefe: Dec. 7th Net Neutrality Protests
			[9:05pm] Malt: I support 100%
			[9:05pm] Joe: ^
			[9:06pm] jokeefe: Organized by Fight for the Future. So far, protests in Boston, Holyoke and elsewhere
			[9:06pm] jokeefe: in MA
			[9:06pm] Joe: Do you have a link?
			[9:07pm] Malt: James, could you send me the outreach website? Verizon's got a building in Worcester, I can look into getting something together then
			[9:07pm] jokeefe: http://verizonprotests.com/
			[9:07pm] Joe: Thank you
			[9:08pm] jokeefe: If you organize an event, email it out
			[9:08pm] jokeefe: there is a link there
			[9:08pm] jokeefe: So, endorse?
			[9:08pm] Joe: Aye
			[9:08pm] BlackbeardsGhos: aye
			[9:09pm] jokeefe: aye
			[9:09pm] jokeefe: any opposition?
			[9:10pm] Malt: the pirate outreach website, sorry.
			[9:10pm] Malt: i used it like once and lost track of it
			[9:10pm] jokeefe: crew?
			[9:10pm] jokeefe: https://masspirates.org/crew/user
			[9:11pm] jokeefe: ok, motion passes
			[9:11pm] jokeefe: will get the notice up on the blog and in the next email this week
			[9:11pm] Malt: thank you, yes
			[9:12pm] Malt: i misremembered it as being more complex
			[9:12pm] jokeefe: no worries
			[9:12pm] jokeefe: Sec. 702 Update
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			[9:12pm] Joe: I already took the liberty to post it to my twitter and will retweet to the party
			[9:12pm] jokeefe: Thanks.
			[9:13pm] jokeefe: Question is to USA RIGHTS Act: does it go far enough?
			[9:13pm] jokeefe: Section 702 expiring would be good
			[9:13pm] jokeefe: legislative analysis at https://warrantless.org/2017/11/section-702-thanksgiving-week/
			[9:14pm] Joe: Yes, after further research, I would be very opposed to this bill.
			[9:15pm] Malt: "his bill provides Americans the strongest protections from unwarranted federal surveillance, absent the expiration of Section 702. As such, the act has the support of a host of civil rights and privacy rights groups across the political spectrum, from the American Civil Liberties Union, to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored Pe
			[9:15pm] Malt: ople, to the Campaign for Liberty, to FreedomWorks."
			[9:15pm] Malt: It's better than the alternative, not as good as full expiration
			[9:15pm] Joe: Sorry, I misunderstood. I am against 702. I would be in favor of full expiration
			[9:16pm] jokeefe: What about USA RIGHTS Act?
			[9:16pm] Malt: that's the quote about Rights
			[9:17pm] Malt: ACLU is a powerful endorsement. I still think a tack of "We support letting section 702 sunset without replacement, but RIGHTS is a good second choice, if the legislation MUST be reauthorized"
			[9:17pm] jokeefe: thanks. Joe?
			[9:18pm] BlackbeardsGhos: It's amazing were having this debate at all really. I support USA RIGHTS Act
			[9:18pm] BlackbeardsGhos: EFF supports it too
			[9:18pm] Joe: In general, still opposed since this bypasses most of the basic rights we have just because one would travel outside the US. We should be extending our protections, not limiting what our government is doing with the information it has already collected on us.
			[9:18pm] Malt: there's a chance it doesn't get reauthorized, it seems.
			[9:18pm] Malt: ^ agreed
			[9:19pm] jokeefe: Likely a slim chance, sadly, even with Trump with access to the cookie jar.
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			[9:19pm] jokeefe: ahoy admech
			[9:19pm] admech: ahoy all
			[9:19pm] jokeefe: on https://masspirates.org/wiki/November_28th,_2017_IRC_Meeting#Sec._702_Update



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Jokeefe at 01:44, 29 November 2017

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	== Decisions/Endorsements ==		== Decisions/Endorsements ==

			=== Dec. 7th Net Neutrality Protests ===

			On Dec. 7th various groups including Demand Progress and Fight for the Future are organizing [http://verizonprotests.com/ protests outside Verizon stores]. Boston Pirates suggest we endorse and turn people out to them.

	=== Sec. 702 Update ===		=== Sec. 702 Update ===