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		<title>Jokeefe: Created page with &quot;== Agenda ==  This meeting focused on using our Liquid Feedback server to decide the three questions on the November 6th ballot.  == Quick Notes / Summaries Re Proposed Bills to ...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;== Agenda ==  This meeting focused on using our Liquid Feedback server to decide the three questions on the November 6th ballot.  == Quick Notes / Summaries Re Proposed Bills to ...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Agenda ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This meeting focused on using our Liquid Feedback server to decide the three questions on the November 6th ballot.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Quick Notes / Summaries Re Proposed Bills to be Discussed: ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1.  CryptoParty in Boston&lt;br /&gt;
* a success with 50+ people attending&lt;br /&gt;
* interest in doing others&lt;br /&gt;
* videos at [https://cryptoparty.org/wiki/Boston https://cryptoparty.org/wiki/Boston]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2.  Ballot Questions, Platform, LQFB&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Attending ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* jokeefe - James O&amp;#039;Keefe, Somerville&lt;br /&gt;
* srevilak - Steve Revilak&lt;br /&gt;
* SplendidSpoon - Lauren Pespisa, Boxboro/Cambridge&lt;br /&gt;
* mildbeard - Erik Zoltan, Framingham&lt;br /&gt;
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Observers:&lt;br /&gt;
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* passstab&lt;br /&gt;
* [bsod]&lt;br /&gt;
* cmal&lt;br /&gt;
* teamcoltra&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Summary ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2.  Ballot Questions, Platform, LQFB&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Things aren&amp;#039;t proceeding correctly.&lt;br /&gt;
* Erik is looking at it&lt;br /&gt;
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== Meeting Minutes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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 &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[12:21] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; have you received the liquid feedback email?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:21] &amp;lt;+srevilak&amp;gt; yes, I received an invite a while back.  Logged in a few times, but haven&amp;#039;t contributed yet&lt;br /&gt;
[12:24] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; anything there you want to support?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:25] &amp;lt;+srevilak&amp;gt; you mean http://23.23.122.169/lf/unit/show/1.html?tab=open ?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:27] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; yes, esp. 6, 7, 8&lt;br /&gt;
[12:28] &amp;lt;+srevilak&amp;gt; Q8 is right to repair.  I support&lt;br /&gt;
[12:28] &amp;lt;+srevilak&amp;gt; Q7: medical use of marijuana.  Support&lt;br /&gt;
[12:29] &amp;lt;+srevilak&amp;gt; Q6: End of Life Medication.  I have to research some more.  I support the idea, but I&amp;#039;ve heard there are some issues with the way it&amp;#039;s worded.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:29] &amp;lt;+srevilak&amp;gt; Haven&amp;#039;t read the full text of the question yet&lt;br /&gt;
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[12:31] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; hi SplendidSpoon&lt;br /&gt;
[12:31] &amp;lt;@SplendidSpoon&amp;gt; hey sorry got distracted by work&lt;br /&gt;
[12:31] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; understandable&lt;br /&gt;
[12:32] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; just talking about Windoz8, ballot questions on liquid feedback&lt;br /&gt;
[12:32] &amp;lt;@SplendidSpoon&amp;gt; ok&lt;br /&gt;
[12:36] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; erix is having IRC issues&lt;br /&gt;
[12:39] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; srevilak, what tasks on the todo list interest you?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:41] &amp;lt;+srevilak&amp;gt; tech things I could easily help with&lt;br /&gt;
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[12:41] &amp;lt;+srevilak&amp;gt; wouldn&amp;#039;t mind doing things like surveys or letters&lt;br /&gt;
[12:41] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; hi&lt;br /&gt;
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[12:41] &amp;lt;+srevilak&amp;gt; rounding up interns not my strongest point&lt;br /&gt;
[12:42] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; sorry to be late, I had a problem related to the i2p network and finally got past it.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:43] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; hi mildbeard&lt;br /&gt;
[12:44] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; hey jokeefe!&lt;br /&gt;
[12:44] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; thanks, srevilak on the suggestions.  erik is good on tech things.  reassessing how we have things setup would be useful.  letter writing/surveys as well.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:45] &amp;lt;+srevilak&amp;gt; jokeefe: re: to-do list, what are the biggest priorities?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:46] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; we need to decide that on the 11th.  we need a letter to members and we have talked about a survey for awhile.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:46] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; so I am on Liquid feedback and would like to move the ballot questions along.  erik, you feel confident walking us through that process?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:47] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; let me connect&lt;br /&gt;
[12:47] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; so it&amp;#039;s http://masspirates.org/feedback&lt;br /&gt;
[12:48] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; And the very important first step is to click the &amp;quot;Login&amp;quot; link at top center.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:49] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; what section contains ballot question 1?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:49] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; it is 8&lt;br /&gt;
[12:50] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; http://23.23.122.169/lf/initiative/show/8.html&lt;br /&gt;
[12:50] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; 3=7.html&lt;br /&gt;
[12:50] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; 2=6.html&lt;br /&gt;
[12:50] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; So it&amp;#039;s in Massachusetts Pirate Party, Open Innovation, and it&amp;#039;s Default Policy #8.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:51] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; Anyone not able to get there?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:51] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; BTW, mildbeard, I made you an initiator on the three questions.  I only see you, Sevan and Mark as people I can do that too.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:51] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; I&amp;#039;ll accept the invitation to be an initiator.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:51] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; And I signed up as a supporter too.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:52] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; Seems like the biggest no-brainer for the pirate party.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:53] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; is there some downside I might be missing?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:57] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; I might argue that it doesn&amp;#039;t go far enough, but perhaps better something we want than nothing of what we want&lt;br /&gt;
[12:57] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; quite frankly, I can&amp;#039;t see how to do anything with the issue after I&amp;#039;ve supported it!&lt;br /&gt;
[12:58] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; strange, mildbeard, I don&amp;#039;t see you listed as a supporter&lt;br /&gt;
[12:58] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; do you see me listed as an initiator?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:58] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; erixoltan&lt;br /&gt;
[12:59] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; yes&lt;br /&gt;
[12:59] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; do you see me as a supporter for http://23.23.122.169/lf/initiative/show/1.html ?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:59] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; maybe it doesn&amp;#039;t also count you as a supporter if you&amp;#039;re an initiator?&lt;br /&gt;
[13:01] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; maybe.  I should not be an initiator for http://23.23.122.169/lf/initiative/show/1.html , but I am a supporter, do you see me listed as a supporter?&lt;br /&gt;
[13:01] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; no I don&amp;#039;t see you on issue 1.&lt;br /&gt;
[13:01] &amp;lt;+srevilak&amp;gt; I like the fact that question also mandates giving vehicle owners access to diagnostic information.  By 2015, all cars have to come with them, and I&amp;#039;d want to see what my black box was saying about me&lt;br /&gt;
[13:02] &amp;lt;+srevilak&amp;gt; all cars have to come with them =&amp;gt; all cars will have to come with data recorders&lt;br /&gt;
[13:02] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; I am guessing we don&amp;#039;t have a quorum on the issue, and that&amp;#039;s why it&amp;#039;s not letting us move it forward.&lt;br /&gt;
[13:04] &amp;lt;+srevilak&amp;gt; I&amp;#039;ll have to support from home; haven&amp;#039;t memorized my LQFB credentials&lt;br /&gt;
[13:06] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; any idea where we set the quorum?&lt;br /&gt;
[13:06] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; It&amp;#039;s in Admin (at the bottom) and you can edit the default policy.&lt;br /&gt;
[13:06] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; I tried setting it to 1% and it&amp;#039;s still not moving it forward.&lt;br /&gt;
[13:07] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; I think we need to study liquid feedback and come back to this next week?&lt;br /&gt;
[13:08] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; wait, is that too late?&lt;br /&gt;
[13:08] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; no, 12 days until the election&lt;br /&gt;
[13:08] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; would be good to get this working this weekend.&lt;br /&gt;
[13:09] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; yeah&lt;br /&gt;
[13:09] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; got some time to sit down over irc and poke at it?&lt;br /&gt;
[13:09] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; we should really start doing this.&lt;br /&gt;
[13:09] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; sure&lt;br /&gt;
[13:09] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; I find it troubling that who supports it isn&amp;#039;t listed&lt;br /&gt;
[13:10] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; pretty open on sunday&lt;br /&gt;
[13:12] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; not me, but I&amp;#039;m working on it now.&lt;br /&gt;
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[13:15] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; hi teamcoltra&lt;br /&gt;
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[13:18] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; lol&lt;br /&gt;
[13:19] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; I&amp;#039;m on a great tutorial on Liquid Feedback, it may help.&lt;br /&gt;
[13:19] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; Only problem - it&amp;#039;s in Italian.&lt;br /&gt;
[13:19] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; no google translate for video yet, unfortunately&lt;br /&gt;
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[13:22] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; I&amp;#039;m creating a new voting policy - 1 day to admit, 1 day to discuss, 1 day to verify and 3 days to vote.  Just as a test.  Part of the tutorial.&lt;br /&gt;
[13:26] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; creat&lt;br /&gt;
[13:26] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; great&lt;br /&gt;
[13:26] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; thank you&lt;br /&gt;
[13:29] &amp;lt;@mildbeard&amp;gt; mnaking progress - have to go to work meeting but will keep working on it.&lt;br /&gt;
[13:31] &amp;lt;@jokeefe&amp;gt; thanks&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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