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== Review & Decisions == | == Review & Decisions == | ||
== | === S.734 Endorsement? === | ||
We have been asked to endorse the fusion center reform bill [https://malegislature.gov/Bills/189/Senate/S734 S.734, An Act to protect freedom of speech and association]. | |||
== Campaigns Status == | |||
=== 2016 Campaign === | === 2016 Campaign === | ||
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== Participants == | == Participants == | ||
* jokeefe | |||
* igel | |||
* srevilak | |||
* Kendra | |||
* bestpiggy | |||
=== Observers === | === Observers === | ||
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== Summary == | == Summary == | ||
Discuss endorsement of [https://malegislature.gov/Bills/189/Senate/S734 S734]. Vote 5-0 to endorse (no abstentions) | |||
== Minutes == | == Minutes == | ||
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21:02 < jokeefe> agenda - | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/January_18th,_2016_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:02 < jokeefe> ids - James O’Keefe, Somerville | |||
21:02 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington | |||
21:02 < igel> william fleurant, arlington ma | |||
21:03 < jokeefe> we have been asked to endorse S.734, An Act to protect | |||
freedom of speech and association. | |||
21:03 < jokeefe> https://malegislature.gov/Bills/189/Senate/S734 | |||
21:04 < jokeefe> Section 2 ½. At least once annually, every criminal | |||
intelligence system shall conduct an internal audit, the report of which | |||
shall be a public record. This audit shall include: | |||
21:04 < jokeefe> (1)For each database that contains personal data, | |||
the number of authorized users, each user’s level of access, and the | |||
quantity of data accessed by each user on a weekly basis; | |||
21:04 < jokeefe> (2)For each database that contains personal data, | |||
the number of transactions performed by transaction type, unique user, | |||
and access location; | |||
21:04 < jokeefe> (3)For each database that contains personal data, | |||
the quantity of data collected and maintained from each unique source, | |||
and the frequency of use in an investigation of data from each source; | |||
21:04 < jokeefe> (4)The numbers of investigations authorized and denied | |||
under subsection (b)(4) of section 1A of Chapter 276; | |||
21:04 < jokeefe> (5)The number of investigations authorized under said | |||
subsection (b)(4) that remain open; | |||
21:04 < jokeefe> (6)For each open investigation authorized under said | |||
subsection (b)(4), the length of time the investigation has remained | |||
open and a justification for continued collection or maintenance of | |||
protected information; | |||
21:04 < jokeefe> (7)The number of investigations authorized under said | |||
subsection (b)(4) that have led to indictments or prosecutions, and the | |||
names and docket numbers of resulting court proceedings; | |||
21:04 < jokeefe> (8)The number of authorized disseminations under | |||
subsection (b)(3) of section 1A of Chapter 276, and to which entity each | |||
dissemination was made. | |||
21:04 < jokeefe> Section 2 ¾. Every criminal intelligence system shall | |||
provide assistance and unrestricted access to the inspector general, | |||
who may from time to time prepare a report on the compliance of criminal | |||
intelligence systems with section 1A of Chapter 276, which report shall | |||
include recommendations for corrective action and be a public record. | |||
21:05 < igel> hey Kendra | |||
21:05 < jokeefe> ahoy Kendra | |||
21:05 < Kendra> Hi All, Kendra Moyer in Highland Park, Michigan | |||
21:05 < jokeefe> agenda - | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/January_18th,_2016_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:06 < srevilak> kendra: talking about | |||
https://malegislature.gov/Bills/189/Senate/S734 | |||
21:06 < igel> public record..? | |||
21:06 < srevilak> I like section 1A(a) | |||
21:06 < srevilak> No state or local law enforcement agency, prosecutorial | |||
office, criminal intelligence system, police or peace officer, or agent | |||
thereof shall track, collect or maintain information about the political, | |||
religious or social views, associations or activities of any individual, | |||
group, association, organization, corporation, business or partnership or | |||
other entity unless such information directly relates to an investigation | |||
of criminal activities, and there are reasonable grounds to suspect the | |||
subject of the information is involved in criminal conduct. | |||
21:07 < jokeefe> the report is public record | |||
21:07 < igel> aah | |||
21:07 < jokeefe> yes, srevilak, 1A seems to put limits on what they | |||
can gather | |||
21:07 < igel> like.. when the police of boston looked up tom brady's | |||
info thousands of times one year | |||
21:09 < srevilak> I'm in favor of endorsing. | |||
21:09 < igel> same, why would this stuff not be logged? | |||
21:09 < srevilak> Perhaps related: go to | |||
https://malegislature.gov/People/ClerksOffice/Senate/DocketBook | |||
21:09 < srevilak> and search for the phrase "wiretap" | |||
21:10 < srevilak> You'll see a number of "Annual report of wiretap | |||
interceptions", from various DAs. | |||
21:10 < srevilak> None of which are available from the legislatures | |||
website | |||
21:11 < jokeefe> ahoy bestpiggy | |||
21:11 < bestpiggy> heythere | |||
21:11 < jokeefe> discussing endorsing | |||
https://malegislature.gov/Bills/189/Senate/S734 | |||
21:11 < srevilak> I hope S734's `public records' are more public than | |||
these wiretap reports | |||
21:11 < igel> hmm u have to req from senate clerk office? | |||
21:12 < Kendra> I am curious as to how would this pertain to say, the | |||
Patriot Act? Would it be a matter of state vs federal law? What about | |||
RICO laws and such? Becasue they defiitely track and psychologically | |||
profile based on your associations. | |||
21:12 < srevilak> igel: yes, that's what it says | |||
21:13 < srevilak> Kendra: since S734 applies to "state or local law | |||
enforcement agencies", I suspect it would pertain to MA agencies. | |||
Feds could still do what feds do | |||
21:13 < igel> beyond wiretap, i assume S734 is for other databases? | |||
21:14 < jokeefe> looks like it. | |||
21:15 < jokeefe> just says information | |||
21:15 < srevilak> Guess it depends on whether wiretaps go into a "database | |||
that contains personal data" | |||
21:15 < igel> i see no argument against making these queries available | |||
to the public | |||
21:16 < jokeefe> “A record of any such written authorization, which | |||
shall specify the reasons the dissemination is necessary, shall be | |||
maintained for a minimum of five years. The originating entity shall | |||
record each instance of dissemination, whether written or oral, in a log | |||
containing the name of the subject or subjects, the name of the entity | |||
with whom the information was shared, and the date of dissemination.” | |||
21:16 < jokeefe> doesn’t say what form the record takes, I believe | |||
21:17 < jokeefe> good to have a 5 year review, but that seems like a | |||
long time between reviews | |||
21:18 < jokeefe> other observations? | |||
21:18 < Kendra> There would very likely have to be identifying personal | |||
data to match wiretaps or any other evidence to the specific case | |||
21:19 < Kendra> If cause for a case was well established. I am | |||
unconvinced that anyone's privacy is really being respected in these | |||
matters. | |||
21:19 < igel> mm | |||
21:20 < srevilak> On bright side, section 2-1/2 applies to "every criminal | |||
intelligence system", and BRIC is specifically listed in the definition of | |||
"criminal intelligence system". | |||
21:24 < jokeefe> seems to be an improvement. any reason not to endorse? | |||
21:25 < igel> i hope it passes.. this city doesnt need insane nypd laws | |||
21:25 < Kendra> I agree with endorsing, undeerstanding it has some | |||
potential limitations around transparency. | |||
21:25 < srevilak> bestpiggy: any thoughts? | |||
21:26 < igel> re: | |||
http://www.democracynow.org/topics/nypd_muslim_spy_program | |||
21:26 < bestpiggy> i agree with endorsing. | |||
21:27 * srevilak found answer to wiretap reports. | |||
https://malegislature.gov/laws/generallaws/partiv/titlei/chapter272/section99, | |||
section R. Public record made available @ office of district attorney | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> all in favor? | |||
21:28 < srevilak> aye | |||
21:28 < bestpiggy> aye | |||
21:28 < igel> aye aye | |||
21:29 < jokeefe> aye | |||
21:30 < Kendra> aya | |||
21:30 < jokeefe> any opposed? | |||
21:32 < jokeefe> motion to endorse S.734 passes | |||
21:34 < jokeefe> I’ll post it | |||
21:34 < jokeefe> Anyone have an update on 2016 Campaign? | |||
21:35 < srevilak> I need to write some blog posts. Hoping to have one | |||
ready for Thu | |||
21:35 < jokeefe> thanks. | |||
21:36 < jokeefe> me too | |||
21:36 < jokeefe> that is all I have. Been a busy week | |||
21:36 < igel> no nope.. | |||
21:37 < srevilak> I have a (short) quartermaster update | |||
21:37 < igel> can we ping h to see if next week at parts is setting a | |||
topic or requests | |||
21:38 < igel> cool update us then =) | |||
21:38 < jokeefe> please do, srevilak | |||
21:38 < srevilak> filed our 2015 annual report about a week ago, ahead | |||
of 1/20 filing deadline | |||
21:39 < srevilak> everything balanced out nicely | |||
21:39 < srevilak> We have $624 remaining in the bank | |||
21:39 < srevilak> Also noteworthy: a recent OCPF enforcement action | |||
21:39 < srevilak> MA prohibits political groups from fundraising at | |||
public buildings | |||
21:40 < srevilak> this also means you can't sent fundraising requests | |||
to public officials work email addresses | |||
21:40 < Kendra> Thanks for keeping track and doing all of that. | |||
21:40 < Kendra> Interseting timing on that new development during | |||
campaign year | |||
21:40 < srevilak> Guess that means we have to filter out @mass.gov when | |||
sending requests for donations | |||
21:41 < jokeefe> good to know. | |||
21:41 < jokeefe> also cities & towns | |||
21:41 < srevilak> There's also public comment we might want to condsider | |||
making | |||
21:41 < srevilak> http://www.ocpf.us/ | |||
21:42 < srevilak> on feb 24th, state folks will discuss what exactly | |||
constitutues coordination between candidates and independent expenditure | |||
PAC | |||
21:42 < srevilak> At any rate, | |||
http://files.ocpf.us/pdf/newsletters/2016winter.pdf has more interesting | |||
enforcement actions | |||
21:43 < srevilak> end of quartermaster report | |||
21:44 < jokeefe> write up a comment for us to endorse | |||
21:44 < jokeefe> igel, somerville cryptoparty doesn’t yet have an agenda | |||
21:45 < igel> okay cool, | |||
21:45 < jokeefe> Anything else? | |||
21:45 < igel> ch, yeah. nope | |||
21:47 < srevilak> nothing here | |||
21:47 < Kendra> Nope, move to adjourn? | |||
21:47 < jokeefe> 2nd | |||
21:47 < jokeefe> all in favor? | |||
21:47 < Kendra> aye | |||
21:47 < igel> aye | |||
21:47 < srevilak> aye | |||
21:47 < jokeefe> aye | |||
21:47 < srevilak> will post transcript | |||
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Latest revision as of 21:49, 18 January 2016
Review & Decisions
S.734 Endorsement?
We have been asked to endorse the fusion center reform bill S.734, An Act to protect freedom of speech and association.
Campaigns Status
2016 Campaign
2016 Campaign Plan & Task Status
Pirate Pads:
Event Planning
- June, PirateCon 2016
Upcoming Events
- 1/27, 6-9pm, Somerville Cryptoparty
Every Wed., Digital Fourth meeting, 11:20am-1:30pm, Voltage Cafe, Third Street, Cambridge
Participants
- jokeefe
- igel
- srevilak
- Kendra
- bestpiggy
Observers
- davidd
- Pharyngeal
- zby
Summary
Discuss endorsement of S734. Vote 5-0 to endorse (no abstentions)
Minutes
21:02 < jokeefe> agenda - https://masspirates.org/wiki/January_18th,_2016_IRC_Meeting 21:02 < jokeefe> ids - James O’Keefe, Somerville 21:02 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington 21:02 < igel> william fleurant, arlington ma 21:03 < jokeefe> we have been asked to endorse S.734, An Act to protect freedom of speech and association. 21:03 < jokeefe> https://malegislature.gov/Bills/189/Senate/S734 21:04 < jokeefe> Section 2 ½. At least once annually, every criminal intelligence system shall conduct an internal audit, the report of which shall be a public record. This audit shall include: 21:04 < jokeefe> (1)For each database that contains personal data, the number of authorized users, each user’s level of access, and the quantity of data accessed by each user on a weekly basis; 21:04 < jokeefe> (2)For each database that contains personal data, the number of transactions performed by transaction type, unique user, and access location; 21:04 < jokeefe> (3)For each database that contains personal data, the quantity of data collected and maintained from each unique source, and the frequency of use in an investigation of data from each source; 21:04 < jokeefe> (4)The numbers of investigations authorized and denied under subsection (b)(4) of section 1A of Chapter 276; 21:04 < jokeefe> (5)The number of investigations authorized under said subsection (b)(4) that remain open; 21:04 < jokeefe> (6)For each open investigation authorized under said subsection (b)(4), the length of time the investigation has remained open and a justification for continued collection or maintenance of protected information; 21:04 < jokeefe> (7)The number of investigations authorized under said subsection (b)(4) that have led to indictments or prosecutions, and the names and docket numbers of resulting court proceedings; 21:04 < jokeefe> (8)The number of authorized disseminations under subsection (b)(3) of section 1A of Chapter 276, and to which entity each dissemination was made. 21:04 < jokeefe> Section 2 ¾. Every criminal intelligence system shall provide assistance and unrestricted access to the inspector general, who may from time to time prepare a report on the compliance of criminal intelligence systems with section 1A of Chapter 276, which report shall include recommendations for corrective action and be a public record. 21:05 < igel> hey Kendra 21:05 < jokeefe> ahoy Kendra 21:05 < Kendra> Hi All, Kendra Moyer in Highland Park, Michigan 21:05 < jokeefe> agenda - https://masspirates.org/wiki/January_18th,_2016_IRC_Meeting 21:06 < srevilak> kendra: talking about https://malegislature.gov/Bills/189/Senate/S734 21:06 < igel> public record..? 21:06 < srevilak> I like section 1A(a) 21:06 < srevilak> No state or local law enforcement agency, prosecutorial office, criminal intelligence system, police or peace officer, or agent thereof shall track, collect or maintain information about the political, religious or social views, associations or activities of any individual, group, association, organization, corporation, business or partnership or other entity unless such information directly relates to an investigation of criminal activities, and there are reasonable grounds to suspect the subject of the information is involved in criminal conduct. 21:07 < jokeefe> the report is public record 21:07 < igel> aah 21:07 < jokeefe> yes, srevilak, 1A seems to put limits on what they can gather 21:07 < igel> like.. when the police of boston looked up tom brady's info thousands of times one year 21:09 < srevilak> I'm in favor of endorsing. 21:09 < igel> same, why would this stuff not be logged? 21:09 < srevilak> Perhaps related: go to https://malegislature.gov/People/ClerksOffice/Senate/DocketBook 21:09 < srevilak> and search for the phrase "wiretap" 21:10 < srevilak> You'll see a number of "Annual report of wiretap interceptions", from various DAs. 21:10 < srevilak> None of which are available from the legislatures website 21:11 < jokeefe> ahoy bestpiggy 21:11 < bestpiggy> heythere 21:11 < jokeefe> discussing endorsing https://malegislature.gov/Bills/189/Senate/S734 21:11 < srevilak> I hope S734's `public records' are more public than these wiretap reports 21:11 < igel> hmm u have to req from senate clerk office? 21:12 < Kendra> I am curious as to how would this pertain to say, the Patriot Act? Would it be a matter of state vs federal law? What about RICO laws and such? Becasue they defiitely track and psychologically profile based on your associations. 21:12 < srevilak> igel: yes, that's what it says 21:13 < srevilak> Kendra: since S734 applies to "state or local law enforcement agencies", I suspect it would pertain to MA agencies. Feds could still do what feds do 21:13 < igel> beyond wiretap, i assume S734 is for other databases? 21:14 < jokeefe> looks like it. 21:15 < jokeefe> just says information 21:15 < srevilak> Guess it depends on whether wiretaps go into a "database that contains personal data" 21:15 < igel> i see no argument against making these queries available to the public 21:16 < jokeefe> “A record of any such written authorization, which shall specify the reasons the dissemination is necessary, shall be maintained for a minimum of five years. The originating entity shall record each instance of dissemination, whether written or oral, in a log containing the name of the subject or subjects, the name of the entity with whom the information was shared, and the date of dissemination.” 21:16 < jokeefe> doesn’t say what form the record takes, I believe 21:17 < jokeefe> good to have a 5 year review, but that seems like a long time between reviews 21:18 < jokeefe> other observations? 21:18 < Kendra> There would very likely have to be identifying personal data to match wiretaps or any other evidence to the specific case 21:19 < Kendra> If cause for a case was well established. I am unconvinced that anyone's privacy is really being respected in these matters. 21:19 < igel> mm 21:20 < srevilak> On bright side, section 2-1/2 applies to "every criminal intelligence system", and BRIC is specifically listed in the definition of "criminal intelligence system". 21:24 < jokeefe> seems to be an improvement. any reason not to endorse? 21:25 < igel> i hope it passes.. this city doesnt need insane nypd laws 21:25 < Kendra> I agree with endorsing, undeerstanding it has some potential limitations around transparency. 21:25 < srevilak> bestpiggy: any thoughts? 21:26 < igel> re: http://www.democracynow.org/topics/nypd_muslim_spy_program 21:26 < bestpiggy> i agree with endorsing. 21:27 * srevilak found answer to wiretap reports. https://malegislature.gov/laws/generallaws/partiv/titlei/chapter272/section99, section R. Public record made available @ office of district attorney 21:28 < jokeefe> all in favor? 21:28 < srevilak> aye 21:28 < bestpiggy> aye 21:28 < igel> aye aye 21:29 < jokeefe> aye 21:30 < Kendra> aya 21:30 < jokeefe> any opposed? 21:32 < jokeefe> motion to endorse S.734 passes 21:34 < jokeefe> I’ll post it 21:34 < jokeefe> Anyone have an update on 2016 Campaign? 21:35 < srevilak> I need to write some blog posts. Hoping to have one ready for Thu 21:35 < jokeefe> thanks. 21:36 < jokeefe> me too 21:36 < jokeefe> that is all I have. Been a busy week 21:36 < igel> no nope.. 21:37 < srevilak> I have a (short) quartermaster update 21:37 < igel> can we ping h to see if next week at parts is setting a topic or requests 21:38 < igel> cool update us then =) 21:38 < jokeefe> please do, srevilak 21:38 < srevilak> filed our 2015 annual report about a week ago, ahead of 1/20 filing deadline 21:39 < srevilak> everything balanced out nicely 21:39 < srevilak> We have $624 remaining in the bank 21:39 < srevilak> Also noteworthy: a recent OCPF enforcement action 21:39 < srevilak> MA prohibits political groups from fundraising at public buildings 21:40 < srevilak> this also means you can't sent fundraising requests to public officials work email addresses 21:40 < Kendra> Thanks for keeping track and doing all of that. 21:40 < Kendra> Interseting timing on that new development during campaign year 21:40 < srevilak> Guess that means we have to filter out @mass.gov when sending requests for donations 21:41 < jokeefe> good to know. 21:41 < jokeefe> also cities & towns 21:41 < srevilak> There's also public comment we might want to condsider making 21:41 < srevilak> http://www.ocpf.us/ 21:42 < srevilak> on feb 24th, state folks will discuss what exactly constitutues coordination between candidates and independent expenditure PAC 21:42 < srevilak> At any rate, http://files.ocpf.us/pdf/newsletters/2016winter.pdf has more interesting enforcement actions 21:43 < srevilak> end of quartermaster report 21:44 < jokeefe> write up a comment for us to endorse 21:44 < jokeefe> igel, somerville cryptoparty doesn’t yet have an agenda 21:45 < igel> okay cool, 21:45 < jokeefe> Anything else? 21:45 < igel> ch, yeah. nope 21:47 < srevilak> nothing here 21:47 < Kendra> Nope, move to adjourn? 21:47 < jokeefe> 2nd 21:47 < jokeefe> all in favor? 21:47 < Kendra> aye 21:47 < igel> aye 21:47 < srevilak> aye 21:47 < jokeefe> aye 21:47 < srevilak> will post transcript