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Several upcoming cryptoparties scheduled.  Listed at [[2017 Event Calendar]].  Also have a project to put together some "intro" flyers, to distribute at cryptoparties.  Have to get copy finished, and find people to work on layout.
Several upcoming cryptoparties scheduled.  Listed at [[2017 Event Calendar]].  Also have a project to put together some "intro" flyers, to distribute at cryptoparties.  Have to get copy finished, and find people to work on layout.
Another run local/campaign workshop coming up on Feb 25th in Holyoke.
Starting Local Chapters.  G is doing outreach.
MAAPL Fight Foreclosure Campaign.  There's a clinic in Springfield on Thu.  Working on organizing more clinics.
Piratecon questionairre up at https://masspirates.org/crew/forms/piratecon-2017-questionnaire.  Questionairre open until Jan 31st.  Should start getting a read on what venues are available for the proposed dates.
Steve filed 2016 annual report with OCPF this morning.


== Minutes ==
== Minutes ==


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21:01 < jokeefe> Agenda -
        https://masspirates.org/wiki/January_17th,_2017_IRC_Meeting
21:01 < papegaai> Title: January 17th, 2017 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki
        (at masspirates.org)
21:01 < jokeefe> ids
21:01 < jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville
21:01 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington
21:01 < G> Garret, Lowell
21:02  * srevilak listens to radio, about Chelsea Mannings commutation
21:02 < G> bittersweet
21:02 < G> what's up with Assange? he's going to hand himself over now?
21:03 < srevilak> dunno
21:03 < jokeefe> Maybe
21:03 < jokeefe>
        https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/01/17/on-wikileaks-and-chelsea-mannings-commutation/
21:03 < G> that's why Obama did it
21:04 < jokeefe> Maybe. Assange could always decide that they didn’t
        meet the terms
21:04 < G> and break his word?
21:05 < G> that would not bode well for Wikileaks or the future of
        whistleblowers
21:05 < jokeefe> Any how. Email out and got 5 posts up today. When it
        rains it pours:https://masspirates.org/blog/
21:05 < papegaai> Title: Massachusetts Pirate Party | The Party of
        Open: Open Government, Open Culture, Open Innovation & People First
        (at masspirates.org)
21:05 < srevilak> wow
21:05 < jokeefe> The queue backed up
21:05 < jokeefe> had to get them out
21:06 < jokeefe> got more to post, just not tonight ;-)
21:06 < jokeefe> ahoy scruffycockney
21:06 < srevilak> hi scruffycockney
21:06 < jokeefe> Agenda -
        https://masspirates.org/wiki/January_17th,_2017_IRC_Meeting
21:06 < G> what else are we posting?
21:06 < papegaai> Title: January 17th, 2017 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki
        (at masspirates.org)
21:07 < igel> lo!
21:07 < igel> william fleurant, arlington ma
21:07 < jokeefe> MAAPL clinics. MassCANN. some other stuff
21:07 < srevilak> hi, igel
21:07 < jokeefe> oh hi, igel
21:07 < jokeefe> Anything to add to the agenda?
21:09 < igel> nada looking
21:10 < jokeefe> Skipping to Projects
21:10 < jokeefe> > Local Surveillance Ordinances
21:11 < jokeefe> Somerville seems to be stalling on a meeting. Thinking
        of other approaches
21:11 < srevilak> jokeefe: what's the meeting, and what's the stall?
21:11 < jokeefe> Organizer setting up meeting with mayor/staff. City
        not getting back
21:12 < srevilak> ah
21:14 < srevilak> I've got a legal OK for my proposal.  Will gather
        signatures later this week
21:14 < jokeefe> cool. posting asking for people to put forward ordinances
        is also on my agenda
21:14 < jokeefe> > Cryptoparties
21:15 < jokeefe> Got cryptoparties scheduled in Belmont, Wayland and
        Boston. They are up at https://masspirates.org/wiki/2017_Event_Calendar
21:15 < papegaai> Title: 2017 Event Calendar - Mass Pirate Wiki (at
        masspirates.org)
21:16 < jokeefe> Got people willing to teach at an LGBT-focused
        Cryptoparty at Make Shift Boston, hopefully. working on the date
21:16 < jokeefe> If you know any groups/communities to reach out to,
        please suggest
21:17 < igel> i def hope to get out to twice as many as i did last year,
        wow.. lots of new tech to teach
21:17 < jokeefe> i know. Lot of good stuff coming out
21:17 < jokeefe> I think at least one organizer of the MAAPL clinics
        might be interested in hosting one
21:18 < jokeefe> Also, Rhode Island, but need people for that
21:18 < jokeefe> February/March are likely to be busy
21:18 < jokeefe> We also have a project to put together some intro flyers
        we can give out.
21:19 < jokeefe> Got to get the text written and find people to do layout
21:19 < jokeefe> Will leave them as digital copies with a <put your logo
        here>, but will use them for pirate party if we pay for printing
21:20 < jokeefe> Call for help is another blog post/email, heh
21:20 < jokeefe> Don’t forget 3/24, 3-5pm, Annoying Legislators for
        Freedom: A talk with Alex Marthews
21:21 < jokeefe> oh those legislators!
21:21 < igel> heh
21:21 < igel> annoying vs. persisting heh
21:21 < jokeefe> > Campaign Workshops
21:21 < jokeefe> both
21:22 < jokeefe> srevilak, can you do one on 2/25?
21:22 < jokeefe> specifically, 2/25, 11:00am-2:30pm, Campaign Workshop,
        Holyoke Public Library Community Room
21:22  * srevilak checks schedule
21:23 < srevilak> 2/25 is a saturday.  I can do it
21:23 < jokeefe> My contact in Salem hasn’t gotten back to me, but I
        am meeting with some organizers in Boston this week
21:23 < jokeefe> Ok, want to car pool?
21:23 < srevilak> sure
21:23 < jokeefe> we can take off line
21:23 < jokeefe> great
21:24 < jokeefe> calling for more hosts is another post/email
21:24 < jokeefe> we don’t lack for those
21:24 < jokeefe> > Starting Local Chapters
21:24 < jokeefe> How goes it G?
21:24 < G> i've emailed out to everyone on that list but have not heard
        back from any yet. one email is no good bounced.
21:25 < G> TBF i just did the emailing this weekend
21:25 < G> i'll do calls next but i dunno i prefer emails myself.
21:26 < G> phone tag sucks
21:26 < G> :P
21:26 < jokeefe> I know
21:26 < jokeefe> Send me the bounced email to info@masspirates.org and
        we will check on it
21:27 < G> nah it was just the one addy out of the list
21:27 < jokeefe> Still leaving a call saying you emailed them might make
        them respond to the next email. also, they signed up to help.
21:27 < jokeefe> thank you
21:28 < jokeefe> > MAAPL Fight Foreclosure Campaign
21:29 < jokeefe> Emailing / calling the people who said they would
        organize clinics.  There is one in Springfield on Thursday.
21:29 < jokeefe> Hopefully will be less stressed this time
21:30 < jokeefe> > Fundraising & Conference
21:30 < jokeefe> Questionnaire up at
        https://masspirates.org/crew/forms/piratecon-2017-questionnaire
21:30 < papegaai> Title: Piratecon 2017 Questionnaire | Mass Pirates Crew
        (at masspirates.org)
21:31 < jokeefe> It was one of the items in today’s email. Set the
        due by date as 1/31.
21:31 < jokeefe> Should have been 1/30, but we can look at the results
        on the 31st.
21:32 < jokeefe> Will send reminders
21:32 < jokeefe> Probably makes sense to look for what places are
        available
21:32 < jokeefe> on the possible dates
21:32 < srevilak> agreed
21:33 < jokeefe> Where we were worked out fairly well
21:33 < srevilak> The tent city community room?
21:34 < jokeefe> yes
21:34 < jokeefe> Another possible space -
        http://thegreenroomsomerville.com/about-the-space
21:34 < papegaai> Title: about — The Green Room (at
        thegreenroomsomerville.com)
21:35 < srevilak> Looks nice, but it's only 500 square feet -- bit on
        the small site
21:36 < srevilak> Looks nice, but it's only 500 square feet -- bit on
        the small side
21:36 < srevilak>
        http://thegreenroomsomerville.com/photos/02062kfjp47uj1ot5pufytqs8f19jp
21:36 < papegaai> Title: photos — The Green Room (at
        thegreenroomsomerville.com)
21:36 < jokeefe> true
21:37 < srevilak> Capacity looks like maybe 25
21:37 < jokeefe> There is a space in Davis next to the Citizens bank
        that looks decent
21:39 < jokeefe> Any how, probably makes sense looking at what is
        available so we can make a decision on the 31st
21:40 < jokeefe> Well that is all I have
21:40 < srevilak> I filed our annual report with OCPF this morning
21:40 < srevilak> that's the only think I have to add
21:41 < jokeefe> thank you
21:41 < jokeefe> igel, you available Saturday for the tech meeting?
21:41 < jokeefe> want to bring some mesh routers?
21:42 < igel> aah
21:42  * srevilak will send something to the democracy list about
        Saturday's tech meeting
21:42 < jokeefe> thank you
21:43 < igel> was lagged
21:43 < igel> i would like to, but i'm going to be out of town
21:43 < igel> i would love to, tbh.
21:43 < jokeefe> next one
21:43 < jokeefe> or the cryptoparty
21:44 < jokeefe> haven’t heard back from Together crowd, but it would
        be good to do some R&D
21:44 < jokeefe> before
21:45 < igel> i am back 2nd week feb
21:45 < igel> :S
21:45 < jokeefe> ok, good to know, hope your trip goes well
21:45 < jokeefe> that’s all I have
21:45 < jokeefe> anything else?
21:46 < jokeefe> oh yeah, some european pirates wanted a statement on
        Manning’s pending release
21:46 < jokeefe> I pointed them to what I put up
21:46 < G> oh hey did they already take that?
21:46 < G> cause there's some serious implications
21:47 < G> i dunno nm
21:47 < jokeefe> ?
21:48 < G> Assange extradition the future of Wikileaks
21:48 < igel> re; manning?
21:48 < G> yes
21:48 < jokeefe> yeah, heard about that after I wrote it.
21:48 < jokeefe> wanted to focus on Chelsea. It won’t be over for her
        on 5/17 unfortunately
21:49 < jokeefe> just a different, but hopefully better experience
21:49 < G> what you mean?
21:49 < igel> heh
21:49 < G> if Manning is out... she's out. we are eternally grateful
        thanks for playing
21:50 < G> whistleblowers are under attack still
21:50 < jokeefe> she will still be an ex-con, and an punching back for
        trolls of the mundane and political variety
21:50 < G> and now our main tap is in question
21:50 < jokeefe> just saying, she will likely need support or at least
        just kind words
21:51 < G> absolutely, but Manning isn't the end of the story
21:51 < jokeefe> agreed
21:52 < igel> *sigh*
21:52 < igel> this is the last pirate meet before
21:53 < G> before?
21:53 < igel> before trump
21:53 < srevilak> yup
21:54 < G> *shrug* no bigs. the new boss same as the old boss and the
        boss before that
21:55 < jokeefe> With more tools for oppression handed over by the
        previous guy.
21:55 < jokeefe> Any who. Shall we adjourn?
21:55 < G> and now Assange handed over too?
21:55 < G> i'm telling you something big is happening
21:55 < srevilak> aye to adjourn
21:55 < G> and then Putin has Snowden... what if he comes up for grabs?
21:55 < G> damn
21:56 < igel> snowden doesnt have keypairs
21:56 < igel> journalists do :)
21:56 < igel> cheers yall
21:56 < igel> going to be a good 2017..
21:56 < igel> fill this
        out! https://masspirates.org/crew/forms/piratecon-2017-questionnaire
21:56 < papegaai> Title: Piratecon 2017 Questionnaire | Mass Pirates Crew
        (at masspirates.org)
21:57 < srevilak> will post transcript
21:57 < jokeefe> We’ll see with Assange. Trump may pardon him.
21:57 < jokeefe> thanks, srevilak
  </nowiki>
  </nowiki>

Latest revision as of 21:58, 17 January 2017

Review

Endorsements

Projects

Local Surveillance Ordinances

Cryptoparties

Campaign Workshops

Starting Local Chapters

MAAPL Fight Foreclosure Campaign

Fundraising & Conference

Projects On Hold For the Moment

Both of these could be topics for future hackathons.

CCTV Camera Map

Together Boston Meshnet

Upcoming Events

  1. 1/21, 2-4pm, Democracy/IT meeting, Arlington
  2. 1/25, 6-9pm, Somerville Cryptoparty

See: 2017 calendar

Participants

  • jokeefe (James O’Keefe, Somerville)
  • G (Garret, Lowell)
  • srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington)
  • igel (william fleurant, arlington ma)

Observers

  • david
  • pagegaai
  • sankey
  • TechRev
  • scruffycockney

Summary

Five blog posts up today at https://masspirates.org/blog

Local Surveillance Ordinances. Somerville is delayed, waiting for a meeting with a mayor. Arlington is about to gather signatures.

Several upcoming cryptoparties scheduled. Listed at 2017 Event Calendar. Also have a project to put together some "intro" flyers, to distribute at cryptoparties. Have to get copy finished, and find people to work on layout.

Another run local/campaign workshop coming up on Feb 25th in Holyoke.

Starting Local Chapters. G is doing outreach.

MAAPL Fight Foreclosure Campaign. There's a clinic in Springfield on Thu. Working on organizing more clinics.

Piratecon questionairre up at https://masspirates.org/crew/forms/piratecon-2017-questionnaire. Questionairre open until Jan 31st. Should start getting a read on what venues are available for the proposed dates.

Steve filed 2016 annual report with OCPF this morning.

Minutes

 
21:01 < jokeefe> Agenda -
        https://masspirates.org/wiki/January_17th,_2017_IRC_Meeting
21:01 < papegaai> Title: January 17th, 2017 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki
        (at masspirates.org)
21:01 < jokeefe> ids
21:01 < jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville
21:01 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington
21:01 < G> Garret, Lowell
21:02  * srevilak listens to radio, about Chelsea Mannings commutation
21:02 < G> bittersweet
21:02 < G> what's up with Assange? he's going to hand himself over now?
21:03 < srevilak> dunno
21:03 < jokeefe> Maybe
21:03 < jokeefe>
        https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/01/17/on-wikileaks-and-chelsea-mannings-commutation/
21:03 < G> that's why Obama did it
21:04 < jokeefe> Maybe. Assange could always decide that they didn’t
        meet the terms
21:04 < G> and break his word?
21:05 < G> that would not bode well for Wikileaks or the future of
        whistleblowers
21:05 < jokeefe> Any how. Email out and got 5 posts up today. When it
        rains it pours:https://masspirates.org/blog/
21:05 < papegaai> Title: Massachusetts Pirate Party | The Party of
        Open: Open Government, Open Culture, Open Innovation & People First
        (at masspirates.org)
21:05 < srevilak> wow
21:05 < jokeefe> The queue backed up
21:05 < jokeefe> had to get them out
21:06 < jokeefe> got more to post, just not tonight ;-)
21:06 < jokeefe> ahoy scruffycockney
21:06 < srevilak> hi scruffycockney
21:06 < jokeefe> Agenda -
        https://masspirates.org/wiki/January_17th,_2017_IRC_Meeting
21:06 < G> what else are we posting?
21:06 < papegaai> Title: January 17th, 2017 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki
        (at masspirates.org)
21:07 < igel> lo!
21:07 < igel> william fleurant, arlington ma
21:07 < jokeefe> MAAPL clinics. MassCANN. some other stuff
21:07 < srevilak> hi, igel
21:07 < jokeefe> oh hi, igel
21:07 < jokeefe> Anything to add to the agenda?
21:09 < igel> nada looking
21:10 < jokeefe> Skipping to Projects
21:10 < jokeefe> > Local Surveillance Ordinances
21:11 < jokeefe> Somerville seems to be stalling on a meeting. Thinking
        of other approaches
21:11 < srevilak> jokeefe: what's the meeting, and what's the stall?
21:11 < jokeefe> Organizer setting up meeting with mayor/staff. City
        not getting back
21:12 < srevilak> ah
21:14 < srevilak> I've got a legal OK for my proposal.  Will gather
        signatures later this week
21:14 < jokeefe> cool. posting asking for people to put forward ordinances
        is also on my agenda
21:14 < jokeefe> > Cryptoparties
21:15 < jokeefe> Got cryptoparties scheduled in Belmont, Wayland and
        Boston. They are up at https://masspirates.org/wiki/2017_Event_Calendar
21:15 < papegaai> Title: 2017 Event Calendar - Mass Pirate Wiki (at
        masspirates.org)
21:16 < jokeefe> Got people willing to teach at an LGBT-focused
        Cryptoparty at Make Shift Boston, hopefully. working on the date
21:16 < jokeefe> If you know any groups/communities to reach out to,
        please suggest
21:17 < igel> i def hope to get out to twice as many as i did last year,
        wow.. lots of new tech to teach
21:17 < jokeefe> i know. Lot of good stuff coming out
21:17 < jokeefe> I think at least one organizer of the MAAPL clinics
        might be interested in hosting one
21:18 < jokeefe> Also, Rhode Island, but need people for that
21:18 < jokeefe> February/March are likely to be busy
21:18 < jokeefe> We also have a project to put together some intro flyers
        we can give out.
21:19 < jokeefe> Got to get the text written and find people to do layout
21:19 < jokeefe> Will leave them as digital copies with a <put your logo
        here>, but will use them for pirate party if we pay for printing
21:20 < jokeefe> Call for help is another blog post/email, heh
21:20 < jokeefe> Don’t forget 3/24, 3-5pm, Annoying Legislators for
        Freedom: A talk with Alex Marthews
21:21 < jokeefe> oh those legislators!
21:21 < igel> heh
21:21 < igel> annoying vs. persisting heh
21:21 < jokeefe> > Campaign Workshops
21:21 < jokeefe> both
21:22 < jokeefe> srevilak, can you do one on 2/25?
21:22 < jokeefe> specifically, 2/25, 11:00am-2:30pm, Campaign Workshop,
        Holyoke Public Library Community Room
21:22  * srevilak checks schedule
21:23 < srevilak> 2/25 is a saturday.  I can do it
21:23 < jokeefe> My contact in Salem hasn’t gotten back to me, but I
        am meeting with some organizers in Boston this week
21:23 < jokeefe> Ok, want to car pool?
21:23 < srevilak> sure
21:23 < jokeefe> we can take off line
21:23 < jokeefe> great
21:24 < jokeefe> calling for more hosts is another post/email
21:24 < jokeefe> we don’t lack for those
21:24 < jokeefe> > Starting Local Chapters
21:24 < jokeefe> How goes it G?
21:24 < G> i've emailed out to everyone on that list but have not heard
        back from any yet. one email is no good bounced.
21:25 < G> TBF i just did the emailing this weekend
21:25 < G> i'll do calls next but i dunno i prefer emails myself.
21:26 < G> phone tag sucks
21:26 < G> :P
21:26 < jokeefe> I know
21:26 < jokeefe> Send me the bounced email to info@masspirates.org and
        we will check on it
21:27 < G> nah it was just the one addy out of the list
21:27 < jokeefe> Still leaving a call saying you emailed them might make
        them respond to the next email. also, they signed up to help.
21:27 < jokeefe> thank you
21:28 < jokeefe> > MAAPL Fight Foreclosure Campaign
21:29 < jokeefe> Emailing / calling the people who said they would
        organize clinics.  There is one in Springfield on Thursday.
21:29 < jokeefe> Hopefully will be less stressed this time
21:30 < jokeefe> > Fundraising & Conference
21:30 < jokeefe> Questionnaire up at
        https://masspirates.org/crew/forms/piratecon-2017-questionnaire
21:30 < papegaai> Title: Piratecon 2017 Questionnaire | Mass Pirates Crew
        (at masspirates.org)
21:31 < jokeefe> It was one of the items in today’s email. Set the
        due by date as 1/31.
21:31 < jokeefe> Should have been 1/30, but we can look at the results
        on the 31st.
21:32 < jokeefe> Will send reminders
21:32 < jokeefe> Probably makes sense to look for what places are
        available
21:32 < jokeefe> on the possible dates
21:32 < srevilak> agreed
21:33 < jokeefe> Where we were worked out fairly well
21:33 < srevilak> The tent city community room?
21:34 < jokeefe> yes
21:34 < jokeefe> Another possible space -
        http://thegreenroomsomerville.com/about-the-space
21:34 < papegaai> Title: about — The Green Room (at
        thegreenroomsomerville.com)
21:35 < srevilak> Looks nice, but it's only 500 square feet -- bit on
        the small site
21:36 < srevilak> Looks nice, but it's only 500 square feet -- bit on
        the small side
21:36 < srevilak>
        http://thegreenroomsomerville.com/photos/02062kfjp47uj1ot5pufytqs8f19jp
21:36 < papegaai> Title: photos — The Green Room (at
        thegreenroomsomerville.com)
21:36 < jokeefe> true
21:37 < srevilak> Capacity looks like maybe 25
21:37 < jokeefe> There is a space in Davis next to the Citizens bank
        that looks decent
21:39 < jokeefe> Any how, probably makes sense looking at what is
        available so we can make a decision on the 31st
21:40 < jokeefe> Well that is all I have
21:40 < srevilak> I filed our annual report with OCPF this morning
21:40 < srevilak> that's the only think I have to add
21:41 < jokeefe> thank you
21:41 < jokeefe> igel, you available Saturday for the tech meeting?
21:41 < jokeefe> want to bring some mesh routers?
21:42 < igel> aah
21:42  * srevilak will send something to the democracy list about
        Saturday's tech meeting
21:42 < jokeefe> thank you
21:43 < igel> was lagged
21:43 < igel> i would like to, but i'm going to be out of town
21:43 < igel> i would love to, tbh.
21:43 < jokeefe> next one
21:43 < jokeefe> or the cryptoparty
21:44 < jokeefe> haven’t heard back from Together crowd, but it would
        be good to do some R&D
21:44 < jokeefe> before
21:45 < igel> i am back 2nd week feb
21:45 < igel> :S
21:45 < jokeefe> ok, good to know, hope your trip goes well
21:45 < jokeefe> that’s all I have
21:45 < jokeefe> anything else?
21:46 < jokeefe> oh yeah, some european pirates wanted a statement on
        Manning’s pending release
21:46 < jokeefe> I pointed them to what I put up
21:46 < G> oh hey did they already take that?
21:46 < G> cause there's some serious implications
21:47 < G> i dunno nm
21:47 < jokeefe> ?
21:48 < G> Assange extradition the future of Wikileaks
21:48 < igel> re; manning?
21:48 < G> yes
21:48 < jokeefe> yeah, heard about that after I wrote it.
21:48 < jokeefe> wanted to focus on Chelsea. It won’t be over for her
        on 5/17 unfortunately
21:49 < jokeefe> just a different, but hopefully better experience
21:49 < G> what you mean?
21:49 < igel> heh
21:49 < G> if Manning is out... she's out. we are eternally grateful
        thanks for playing
21:50 < G> whistleblowers are under attack still
21:50 < jokeefe> she will still be an ex-con, and an punching back for
        trolls of the mundane and political variety
21:50 < G> and now our main tap is in question
21:50 < jokeefe> just saying, she will likely need support or at least
        just kind words
21:51 < G> absolutely, but Manning isn't the end of the story
21:51 < jokeefe> agreed
21:52 < igel> *sigh*
21:52 < igel> this is the last pirate meet before
21:53 < G> before?
21:53 < igel> before trump
21:53 < srevilak> yup
21:54 < G> *shrug* no bigs. the new boss same as the old boss and the
        boss before that
21:55 < jokeefe> With more tools for oppression handed over by the
        previous guy.
21:55 < jokeefe> Any who. Shall we adjourn?
21:55 < G> and now Assange handed over too?
21:55 < G> i'm telling you something big is happening
21:55 < srevilak> aye to adjourn
21:55 < G> and then Putin has Snowden... what if he comes up for grabs?
21:55 < G> damn
21:56 < igel> snowden doesnt have keypairs
21:56 < igel> journalists do :)
21:56 < igel> cheers yall
21:56 < igel> going to be a good 2017..
21:56 < igel> fill this
        out! https://masspirates.org/crew/forms/piratecon-2017-questionnaire
21:56 < papegaai> Title: Piratecon 2017 Questionnaire | Mass Pirates Crew
        (at masspirates.org)
21:57 < srevilak> will post transcript
21:57 < jokeefe> We’ll see with Assange. Trump may pardon him.
21:57 < jokeefe> thanks, srevilak