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=== 2016 Campaign === | === 2016 Campaign === | ||
See notes from [[ | See notes from [[December 6th, 2015 Campaign Planning Meeting]]. | ||
=== H.2487 & H.2606 Video Game Production Subsidy === | === H.2487 & H.2606 Video Game Production Subsidy === | ||
* Signatures so far? | |||
* Where else to publicize it? | |||
=== CISA === | === CISA === | ||
* Vote soon, we hear | |||
=== Event Planning? === | === Event Planning? === | ||
Any events we need to plan for? | |||
== Upcoming Events == | == Upcoming Events == | ||
# 12/19, 3-5pm, [https://masspirates.org/crew/civicrm/event/register?id=15&reset=1 2016 Campaign Planning Meeting], Pizzeria Regina, 353 Cambridge St, Allston | # 12/19, 3-5pm, [https://masspirates.org/crew/civicrm/event/register?id=15&reset=1 2016 Campaign Planning Meeting], Pizzeria Regina, 353 Cambridge St, Allston | ||
# 12/30, 6-9pm, Crypto Party?, Parts & Crafts, 577 Somerville Ave, Somerville | # 12/30, 6-9pm, Crypto Party?, Parts & Crafts, 577 Somerville Ave, Somerville | ||
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== Participants == | == Participants == | ||
* srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA) | |||
* igel (william fleurant, arlington) | |||
* jokeefe (James O’Keefe, Somerville) | |||
* Bluestreak | |||
* aquaticonions (Eli Haber, Lexington) | |||
* Kendra (Kendra in Michigan) | |||
=== Observers === | === Observers === | ||
* davidd | |||
* Pharyngeal | |||
* zby | |||
== Summary == | == Summary == | ||
H.2487 & H.2606 Video Game Production Subsidy. Have online petition, and some physical petitions. Where else to publicize? Perhaps gather signatures during Arisa? Short URL for petition form: https://tinyurl.com/NoGiveawaysToVideoGameMakers | |||
CISA may be coming up for a vote in the near future. Most of MA delegates voted against it, but a few voted in favor. | |||
Shall we march in Pride parade this year? We put this to a vote. 6-0, no abstentions. Vote passes. | |||
== Minutes == | == Minutes == | ||
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21:02 < jokeefe> agenda - | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/December_7th,_2015_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:03 < jokeefe> keeping meeting to 30 minutes | |||
21:03 < jokeefe> ids - James O’Keefe, Somerville | |||
21:03 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA | |||
21:03 < jokeefe> Anything anyone wants to add? | |||
21:05 < aquaticonions> Eli Haber, Lexington | |||
21:05 < Bluestreak> Lucia Fiero | |||
21:05 < jokeefe> Campaign Meeting - notes at | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/December_6th,_2015_Campaign_Planning_Meeting | |||
. Thanks to Steve for entering them. I will add a few things I wrote | |||
down. | |||
21:05 < jokeefe> It was a productive meeting. | |||
21:05 < jokeefe> Next one is Sat. the 19th. | |||
21:06 < aquaticonions> What time? It's theoretically possible I'll | |||
actually be able to make it on the 19th | |||
21:06 < igel> william fleurant, arlington | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> 3-5pm | |||
21:06 < aquaticonions> Thanks | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> The one after that will also be on a Saturday. | |||
21:06 < srevilak> aquaticonions: would be great to meet you in person | |||
21:07 < jokeefe> H.2487 & H.2606 Video Game Production Subsidy - need | |||
more signatures | |||
21:07 < jokeefe> srevilak, did you add the signatures from freedom | |||
rally? I thought you took the sheet | |||
21:07 < aquaticonions> srevilak: Didn't we meet at PirateCon? | |||
21:07 < srevilak> aquaticonions: you're right, I stand corrected | |||
21:08 < srevilak> jokeefe: have sheet, haven't entered. Will do tomorrow | |||
21:08 < igel> hi Kendra | |||
21:08 < jokeefe> thank you | |||
21:08 < jokeefe> ahoy | |||
21:08 < Kendra> Hi All, Kendra in Michigan | |||
21:08 < jokeefe> Where else to publicize can we publicize the petition? | |||
21:09 < srevilak> social media - mention early, mention often? | |||
21:09 < jokeefe> been doing that. at least on twitter. | |||
21:09 < srevilak> when does it come up for a vote? | |||
21:09 < jokeefe> don’t know. will call and ask. | |||
21:10 < jokeefe> who else can we approach to publicize it? | |||
21:10 < Kendra> re you talking about CISA? | |||
21:10 < jokeefe> H.2487 & H.2606 Video Game Production Subsid | |||
21:10 < srevilak> would Arisa be a good place to gather signatures, | |||
or publicize? | |||
21:10 < Kendra> Maybe computer science departments | |||
21:11 < Bluestreak> srevilak, good idea | |||
21:11 < jokeefe> can print out petitions for cryptoparty | |||
21:12 < Kendra> What about pf soto's list? | |||
21:12 < jokeefe> at arisia | |||
21:12 < jokeefe> yes, that is a good idea. also act-ma | |||
21:13 < jokeefe> The link I have used is | |||
https://tinyurl.com/NoGiveawaysToVideoGameMakers | |||
21:13 < jokeefe> Been using this image | |||
https://tinyurl.com/NoGiveawaysToVideoGameMakers | |||
21:13 < jokeefe> https://tinyurl.com/NoGiveawaysToVideoGameMakers | |||
21:13 < jokeefe> | |||
https://masspirates.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/pacmanEatingDollarsShort.png | |||
21:13 < Kendra> I think we could forward to Aria Littlehouse for the Ob | |||
everything list | |||
21:14 < jokeefe> thanks | |||
21:14 < jokeefe> if anyone wants to make a meme image to put on FB | |||
21:14 < igel> who is behind H.2487/H.2606 | |||
21:14 < jokeefe> video game companies and game colleges | |||
21:14 < jokeefe> colleges that teach video games | |||
21:15 < jokeefe> becker college, IIRC | |||
21:15 < igel> i don't get the logic behind it tbh. | |||
21:15 < jokeefe> | |||
http://www.becker.edu/academics/departments-programs/design/interactive-media | |||
21:15 < Kendra> Wentworth | |||
21:15 < jokeefe> http://www.massdigi.org/ | |||
21:15 < srevilak> I wonder if there are lobbying disclosures for | |||
H.2487/H.2606 | |||
21:15 < Bluestreak> My friend’s kid went to Becker. Is unemployed. | |||
21:16 < jokeefe> would be good to ask | |||
21:16 < igel> video game programming is extreme.. | |||
21:16 < jokeefe> a meme image would be good if anyone wants to put | |||
one together | |||
21:17 < igel> its such a specialized field, with entry to such a | |||
conglomorate market.. | |||
21:17 < jokeefe> aye, and this would make it worse | |||
21:17 < jokeefe> please spread the word amongst your friends | |||
21:17 < jokeefe> CISA - starting to look scary | |||
21:18 < jokeefe> posted this | |||
https://masspirates.org/blog/2015/12/05/new-cyber-information-sharing-act-cisa-likely-to-be-worse-stop-it/ | |||
21:18 < jokeefe> | |||
https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/12/07/in-one-of-his-first-major-legislative-acts-paul-ryan-trying-to-deputize-comcast-to-narc-you-out-to-the-feds/ | |||
21:19 < jokeefe> | |||
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151206/15493433005/senator-mitch-mcconnell-to-obama-please-just-tell-us-what-law-you-need-to-ban-encryption-youll-get-it.shtml | |||
21:19 < jokeefe> hear vote may be this week or next | |||
21:19 < srevilak> I just read McConnell's press release: | |||
http://www.mcconnell.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=a7971aa0-893c-4e26-8429-8027d0c1cd47 | |||
21:19 < srevilak> May write an op-ed response to that | |||
21:19 < Bluestreak> MSM has been crying wolf about soc med all week, | |||
how it leads to redicalization. | |||
21:20 < jokeefe> please do srevilak | |||
21:20 < igel> its narc | |||
21:20 < Bluestreak> And the push is on in France to ban TOR andf free | |||
wifi? | |||
21:20 < Bluestreak> Scary | |||
21:20 < jokeefe> socialized medicine leads to radicalization? | |||
21:21 < Bluestreak> social media | |||
21:21 < Kendra> I mentioned this to my mother, Paul Ryan that is, and | |||
she said "he's always trying to do something stupid" | |||
21:21 < Bluestreak> :-P | |||
21:21 < jokeefe> oh ok. NSDAP didn’t have social media, just saying | |||
21:22 < Kendra> back to writing notes | |||
21:22 < igel> heh | |||
21:22 < igel> that comcast thing is real | |||
21:22 < Bluestreak> Franch shooters didn’t use TOR | |||
21:22 < jokeefe> or encryption | |||
21:22 < Bluestreak> didn’t use encryption | |||
21:22 < igel> i found packet sniffing javascript in my comcast router | |||
web admin | |||
21:22 < jokeefe> charming | |||
21:22 < Bluestreak> and EVERYION E used wifi | |||
21:22 < igel> if you are logged in as comcast admin/tech, you can | |||
enable sniffing | |||
21:22 < Bluestreak> uese | |||
21:22 < igel> and send all packet captures to a remote server | |||
21:22 < srevilak> igel: you should route -n that shit | |||
21:22 < igel> from the LAN/WAN | |||
21:23 < jokeefe> that ought to increase your bandwidth, eh? | |||
21:23 < Bluestreak> I’m going to bed #depressed | |||
21:23 < igel> :/ | |||
21:23 < igel> i asked comcast, and my traceroutes changed from woburn | |||
to maryland | |||
21:23 < igel> heh. | |||
21:24 < jokeefe> so please spread | |||
https://masspirates.org/blog/2015/12/05/new-cyber-information-sharing-act-cisa-likely-to-be-worse-stop-it/ | |||
. we had a new ma reps who voted for it. | |||
21:24 < jokeefe> s/new/few/g | |||
21:24 < Bluestreak> Kennedy is ours | |||
21:24 < Bluestreak> We used to have McGovern before redistricting, | |||
liked him better | |||
21:25 < jokeefe> Event Planning - any coming up that we don’t know | |||
about? https://masspirates.org/wiki/2016_Event_Calendar | |||
21:25 < igel> few? hmm | |||
21:25 < jokeefe> Kennedy is quite the pro-surveillance guy | |||
21:25 < srevilak> Event question: shall I go ahead and register us for | |||
pride parade? | |||
21:26 < jokeefe> yes, please | |||
21:26 < Bluestreak> This is a conservative part of the state | |||
21:26 < srevilak> jokeefe: okay, will look into that this week | |||
21:26 < Bluestreak> thanks | |||
21:27 < Bluestreak> “This is one of the key reasons why ISPs should | |||
NOT be content producers, and vice versa” | |||
21:27 < Bluestreak> Hear, hear | |||
21:27 < jokeefe> well - should put that to a vote actually - all in | |||
favor of marching in the 2016 boston pride parade? | |||
21:27 < srevilak> aye | |||
21:27 < aquaticonions> aye | |||
21:27 < jokeefe> aye | |||
21:28 < Bluestreak> aye | |||
21:28 < igel> aye | |||
21:28 < Kendra> aye | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> any opposed? | |||
21:29 < jokeefe> motion passes | |||
21:29 < jokeefe> you have your answer srevilak :-) | |||
21:29 < srevilak> ok | |||
21:29 < jokeefe> thanks for dealing with it | |||
21:30 < srevilak> we are at time | |||
21:30 < jokeefe> we are | |||
21:30 < srevilak> motion to adjourn | |||
21:30 < jokeefe> 2ns | |||
21:30 < jokeefe> 2nd | |||
21:30 < Kendra> 2nd | |||
21:30 < jokeefe> all in favor? | |||
21:30 < igel> yaar | |||
21:30 < srevilak> will post transcript | |||
21:30 < jokeefe> aye | |||
</nowiki> |
Latest revision as of 22:52, 1 February 2018
Review & Decisions
Campaigns Status
2016 Campaign
See notes from December 6th, 2015 Campaign Planning Meeting.
H.2487 & H.2606 Video Game Production Subsidy
- Signatures so far?
- Where else to publicize it?
CISA
- Vote soon, we hear
Event Planning?
Any events we need to plan for?
Upcoming Events
- 12/19, 3-5pm, 2016 Campaign Planning Meeting, Pizzeria Regina, 353 Cambridge St, Allston
- 12/30, 6-9pm, Crypto Party?, Parts & Crafts, 577 Somerville Ave, Somerville
- 1/16, 4pm, Arisia Cryptoparty
Every Wed., Digital Fourth meeting, 11:20am-1:30pm, Voltage Cafe, Third Street, Cambridge
Participants
- srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA)
- igel (william fleurant, arlington)
- jokeefe (James O’Keefe, Somerville)
- Bluestreak
- aquaticonions (Eli Haber, Lexington)
- Kendra (Kendra in Michigan)
Observers
- davidd
- Pharyngeal
- zby
Summary
H.2487 & H.2606 Video Game Production Subsidy. Have online petition, and some physical petitions. Where else to publicize? Perhaps gather signatures during Arisa? Short URL for petition form: https://tinyurl.com/NoGiveawaysToVideoGameMakers
CISA may be coming up for a vote in the near future. Most of MA delegates voted against it, but a few voted in favor.
Shall we march in Pride parade this year? We put this to a vote. 6-0, no abstentions. Vote passes.
Minutes
21:02 < jokeefe> agenda - https://masspirates.org/wiki/December_7th,_2015_IRC_Meeting 21:03 < jokeefe> keeping meeting to 30 minutes 21:03 < jokeefe> ids - James O’Keefe, Somerville 21:03 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA 21:03 < jokeefe> Anything anyone wants to add? 21:05 < aquaticonions> Eli Haber, Lexington 21:05 < Bluestreak> Lucia Fiero 21:05 < jokeefe> Campaign Meeting - notes at https://masspirates.org/wiki/December_6th,_2015_Campaign_Planning_Meeting . Thanks to Steve for entering them. I will add a few things I wrote down. 21:05 < jokeefe> It was a productive meeting. 21:05 < jokeefe> Next one is Sat. the 19th. 21:06 < aquaticonions> What time? It's theoretically possible I'll actually be able to make it on the 19th 21:06 < igel> william fleurant, arlington 21:06 < jokeefe> 3-5pm 21:06 < aquaticonions> Thanks 21:06 < jokeefe> The one after that will also be on a Saturday. 21:06 < srevilak> aquaticonions: would be great to meet you in person 21:07 < jokeefe> H.2487 & H.2606 Video Game Production Subsidy - need more signatures 21:07 < jokeefe> srevilak, did you add the signatures from freedom rally? I thought you took the sheet 21:07 < aquaticonions> srevilak: Didn't we meet at PirateCon? 21:07 < srevilak> aquaticonions: you're right, I stand corrected 21:08 < srevilak> jokeefe: have sheet, haven't entered. Will do tomorrow 21:08 < igel> hi Kendra 21:08 < jokeefe> thank you 21:08 < jokeefe> ahoy 21:08 < Kendra> Hi All, Kendra in Michigan 21:08 < jokeefe> Where else to publicize can we publicize the petition? 21:09 < srevilak> social media - mention early, mention often? 21:09 < jokeefe> been doing that. at least on twitter. 21:09 < srevilak> when does it come up for a vote? 21:09 < jokeefe> don’t know. will call and ask. 21:10 < jokeefe> who else can we approach to publicize it? 21:10 < Kendra> re you talking about CISA? 21:10 < jokeefe> H.2487 & H.2606 Video Game Production Subsid 21:10 < srevilak> would Arisa be a good place to gather signatures, or publicize? 21:10 < Kendra> Maybe computer science departments 21:11 < Bluestreak> srevilak, good idea 21:11 < jokeefe> can print out petitions for cryptoparty 21:12 < Kendra> What about pf soto's list? 21:12 < jokeefe> at arisia 21:12 < jokeefe> yes, that is a good idea. also act-ma 21:13 < jokeefe> The link I have used is https://tinyurl.com/NoGiveawaysToVideoGameMakers 21:13 < jokeefe> Been using this image https://tinyurl.com/NoGiveawaysToVideoGameMakers 21:13 < jokeefe> https://tinyurl.com/NoGiveawaysToVideoGameMakers 21:13 < jokeefe> https://masspirates.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/pacmanEatingDollarsShort.png 21:13 < Kendra> I think we could forward to Aria Littlehouse for the Ob everything list 21:14 < jokeefe> thanks 21:14 < jokeefe> if anyone wants to make a meme image to put on FB 21:14 < igel> who is behind H.2487/H.2606 21:14 < jokeefe> video game companies and game colleges 21:14 < jokeefe> colleges that teach video games 21:15 < jokeefe> becker college, IIRC 21:15 < igel> i don't get the logic behind it tbh. 21:15 < jokeefe> http://www.becker.edu/academics/departments-programs/design/interactive-media 21:15 < Kendra> Wentworth 21:15 < jokeefe> http://www.massdigi.org/ 21:15 < srevilak> I wonder if there are lobbying disclosures for H.2487/H.2606 21:15 < Bluestreak> My friend’s kid went to Becker. Is unemployed. 21:16 < jokeefe> would be good to ask 21:16 < igel> video game programming is extreme.. 21:16 < jokeefe> a meme image would be good if anyone wants to put one together 21:17 < igel> its such a specialized field, with entry to such a conglomorate market.. 21:17 < jokeefe> aye, and this would make it worse 21:17 < jokeefe> please spread the word amongst your friends 21:17 < jokeefe> CISA - starting to look scary 21:18 < jokeefe> posted this https://masspirates.org/blog/2015/12/05/new-cyber-information-sharing-act-cisa-likely-to-be-worse-stop-it/ 21:18 < jokeefe> https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/12/07/in-one-of-his-first-major-legislative-acts-paul-ryan-trying-to-deputize-comcast-to-narc-you-out-to-the-feds/ 21:19 < jokeefe> https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151206/15493433005/senator-mitch-mcconnell-to-obama-please-just-tell-us-what-law-you-need-to-ban-encryption-youll-get-it.shtml 21:19 < jokeefe> hear vote may be this week or next 21:19 < srevilak> I just read McConnell's press release: http://www.mcconnell.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=a7971aa0-893c-4e26-8429-8027d0c1cd47 21:19 < srevilak> May write an op-ed response to that 21:19 < Bluestreak> MSM has been crying wolf about soc med all week, how it leads to redicalization. 21:20 < jokeefe> please do srevilak 21:20 < igel> its narc 21:20 < Bluestreak> And the push is on in France to ban TOR andf free wifi? 21:20 < Bluestreak> Scary 21:20 < jokeefe> socialized medicine leads to radicalization? 21:21 < Bluestreak> social media 21:21 < Kendra> I mentioned this to my mother, Paul Ryan that is, and she said "he's always trying to do something stupid" 21:21 < Bluestreak> :-P 21:21 < jokeefe> oh ok. NSDAP didn’t have social media, just saying 21:22 < Kendra> back to writing notes 21:22 < igel> heh 21:22 < igel> that comcast thing is real 21:22 < Bluestreak> Franch shooters didn’t use TOR 21:22 < jokeefe> or encryption 21:22 < Bluestreak> didn’t use encryption 21:22 < igel> i found packet sniffing javascript in my comcast router web admin 21:22 < jokeefe> charming 21:22 < Bluestreak> and EVERYION E used wifi 21:22 < igel> if you are logged in as comcast admin/tech, you can enable sniffing 21:22 < Bluestreak> uese 21:22 < igel> and send all packet captures to a remote server 21:22 < srevilak> igel: you should route -n that shit 21:22 < igel> from the LAN/WAN 21:23 < jokeefe> that ought to increase your bandwidth, eh? 21:23 < Bluestreak> I’m going to bed #depressed 21:23 < igel> :/ 21:23 < igel> i asked comcast, and my traceroutes changed from woburn to maryland 21:23 < igel> heh. 21:24 < jokeefe> so please spread https://masspirates.org/blog/2015/12/05/new-cyber-information-sharing-act-cisa-likely-to-be-worse-stop-it/ . we had a new ma reps who voted for it. 21:24 < jokeefe> s/new/few/g 21:24 < Bluestreak> Kennedy is ours 21:24 < Bluestreak> We used to have McGovern before redistricting, liked him better 21:25 < jokeefe> Event Planning - any coming up that we don’t know about? https://masspirates.org/wiki/2016_Event_Calendar 21:25 < igel> few? hmm 21:25 < jokeefe> Kennedy is quite the pro-surveillance guy 21:25 < srevilak> Event question: shall I go ahead and register us for pride parade? 21:26 < jokeefe> yes, please 21:26 < Bluestreak> This is a conservative part of the state 21:26 < srevilak> jokeefe: okay, will look into that this week 21:26 < Bluestreak> thanks 21:27 < Bluestreak> “This is one of the key reasons why ISPs should NOT be content producers, and vice versa” 21:27 < Bluestreak> Hear, hear 21:27 < jokeefe> well - should put that to a vote actually - all in favor of marching in the 2016 boston pride parade? 21:27 < srevilak> aye 21:27 < aquaticonions> aye 21:27 < jokeefe> aye 21:28 < Bluestreak> aye 21:28 < igel> aye 21:28 < Kendra> aye 21:28 < jokeefe> any opposed? 21:29 < jokeefe> motion passes 21:29 < jokeefe> you have your answer srevilak :-) 21:29 < srevilak> ok 21:29 < jokeefe> thanks for dealing with it 21:30 < srevilak> we are at time 21:30 < jokeefe> we are 21:30 < srevilak> motion to adjourn 21:30 < jokeefe> 2ns 21:30 < jokeefe> 2nd 21:30 < Kendra> 2nd 21:30 < jokeefe> all in favor? 21:30 < igel> yaar 21:30 < srevilak> will post transcript 21:30 < jokeefe> aye