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21:02 <@jokeefe> Agenda: | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/June_12th,_2019_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:02 <@jokeefe> ids | |||
21:02 < Malt> Niiiiiiice | |||
21:02 < igel[m]> yar | |||
21:02 <@jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville | |||
21:02 < Pirate_Joe> Joseph Onoroski, Lowell | |||
21:02 < DesmondRavenstone> Desmond Ravenstone, Boston (Roslindale) | |||
21:02 < srevilak> Pirate_Joe: type "/me" at the beginning of the line, | |||
then other stuff | |||
21:02 < Malt> Sam capradae, Worcester | |||
21:02 < Pirate_Joe> Ahh, ty | |||
21:03 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington | |||
21:03 < igel[m]> william fleurant, arlington | |||
21:03 * Malt slaps self with a large trout | |||
21:03 < srevilak> Malt: has gotten the hang of it | |||
21:04 <@jokeefe> anything to add? | |||
21:04 < DesmondRavenstone> * DesmondRavenstone sticks his elbow in his ear | |||
21:04 < Pirate_Joe> Only one comment for the national meeting | |||
21:04 <@jokeefe> ok, please add it to the agenda | |||
21:05 < DesmondRavenstone> *DesmondRavenstone takes elbow out of ear | |||
21:05 < Pirate_Joe> I do not have access to such things on this pc, | |||
please add it for me. | |||
21:05 <@jokeefe> Review - anything to review? | |||
21:05 < DesmondRavenstone> */me again puts elbow in ear | |||
21:05 < Pirate_Joe> New appointment on the national level | |||
21:06 < srevilak> DesmondRavenstone: "/me " has to be the first four | |||
characters on the line. (No "*" in front) | |||
21:06 * DesmondRavenstone removes elbow from ear | |||
21:06 < DesmondRavenstone> AHA! | |||
21:06 * srevilak thinks DesmondRavenstone has got the hang of it | |||
21:06 < Pirate_Joe> New appointment on the national level | |||
21:07 * DesmondRavenstone likes bragging about his flexibility | |||
21:07 < Malt> Oh? | |||
21:07 <@jokeefe> What is the new national level appointment Pirate_Joe? | |||
21:07 < Pirate_Joe> Webmaster | |||
21:07 < DesmondRavenstone> Yes, do tell! | |||
21:08 < Malt> Could you hit me up with a link Monday? Might be able to | |||
make it | |||
21:08 <@jokeefe> Thanks Malt | |||
21:08 < Pirate_Joe> So we were contacted by an indiviual that goes by | |||
the name Johan. Very excited, wanting to ramp up things for both the | |||
national level and individual states | |||
21:09 <@jokeefe> great | |||
21:09 < Malt> Nice | |||
21:09 < DesmondRavenstone> What ideas does Johan have? | |||
21:09 < Pirate_Joe> We nominated him to Webmaster and we will be setting | |||
up a merch account when I get everything done for setting up the pac, | |||
which at this point is whenever I can get to it. | |||
21:10 <@jokeefe> cool | |||
21:10 < Pirate_Joe> He is a former lawyer for Washington D.C. Supreme | |||
court circuit and so he is about to retire. Likes our party and wanted | |||
to do a bit to help us ramp up. | |||
21:11 <@jokeefe> glad to have the help | |||
21:11 <@jokeefe> Decisions/Endorsements | |||
21:11 < Pirate_Joe> That's all I have on that matter for the moment, | |||
but we may end up doing an active distribution to the states for running | |||
candidates | |||
21:12 <@jokeefe> thank you | |||
21:12 < Malt> Cool! | |||
21:12 < Pirate_Joe> Thanks, that's all I have | |||
21:12 <@jokeefe> Leadership/activist/volunteer picnic - Set for 6/29 | |||
2-4pm. | |||
21:12 < Malt> I'm out of the state, sorry buds | |||
21:12 <@jokeefe> Will email out to the activist list and volunteers | |||
tomorrow | |||
21:13 <@jokeefe> have a wonderful trip, Malt | |||
21:13 < Pirate_Joe> I may be able to attend but I will have the little | |||
pirate with me. | |||
21:13 < Malt> I'm driving Gramma from Florida to VT | |||
21:13 <@jokeefe> Will have a grill and some food | |||
21:13 <@jokeefe> Hope you aren’t doing it all at once | |||
21:13 < Pirate_Joe> I'll bring some food as well. Or perhaps a tasty | |||
beverage or 20 | |||
21:13 <@jokeefe> Pirate_Joe little pirates are fun | |||
21:14 < Pirate_Joe> Aye | |||
21:14 <@jokeefe> Mayfirst Voting To Change Its Structure | |||
21:14 <@jokeefe> srevilak, would you be able to give a summary? | |||
21:14 < srevilak> I've downloaded the new set of bylaws. Was planning | |||
to read them and vote later in the week | |||
21:15 < srevilak> But the general gist. MF/PL operates in two countries, | |||
US and MX. MX is formally set up as a co-op | |||
21:15 <@jokeefe> We have to vote by 6/17 | |||
21:15 < srevilak> US is chartered as a non-profit | |||
21:15 < srevilak> One of the goals was to have more similar organizational | |||
structures in the two countries | |||
21:16 < srevilak> My understanding is that the US portion will have a | |||
board, rather than a leadership committee | |||
21:17 <@jokeefe> Questions are: | |||
21:17 <@jokeefe> -- Should we approve these new by-laws that make us a | |||
non-profit membership organization -- the non-profit version of a coop? | |||
21:17 <@jokeefe> -- If you vote "yes" on the new by-laws, should we | |||
adopt a "special relationship" (as defined by these new by-laws) with | |||
the May First coop in Mexico? | |||
21:17 <@jokeefe> -- If you vote "yes" on the new by-laws, should we | |||
authorize the current Leadership Committee to continue in its current | |||
role until the elections for the new Board of Directors can be held | |||
(probably sometime in September)? | |||
21:17 <@jokeefe> Bylaws - https://mayfirst.org/files/bylaws.en.pdf | |||
21:17 <@jokeefe> Discussion - | |||
https://comment.mayfirst.org/t/discuss-the-proposed-coop-by-laws/1245 | |||
21:17 < srevilak> It will still be a membership-based organization | |||
21:18 < srevilak> jokeefe: I'm in favor of that | |||
21:18 < Malt> Yes | |||
21:18 <@jokeefe> Wisconsin Pirates are structured as a coop | |||
21:19 < DesmondRavenstone> Query: Aren't there rules about how Mass | |||
political parties are to be organized? | |||
21:19 <@jokeefe> this isn’t for us | |||
21:19 <@jokeefe> it is for how our hosting provider is organized. | |||
21:20 <@jokeefe> we have to vote or not by 6/17 | |||
21:20 < srevilak> I've now read through the bylaws. I'm fine with | |||
supporting | |||
21:21 < igel[m]> how might other mayfirst subscribers vote | |||
21:21 <@jokeefe> does that answer your question DesmondRavenstone? | |||
21:21 < DesmondRavenstone> I believe so, thanks | |||
21:21 <@jokeefe> ahoy igel[m] | |||
21:22 <@jokeefe> great | |||
21:22 < srevilak> igel[m]: there are three questions | |||
21:22 < srevilak> Adopt the proposed by-laws formally transitioning | |||
the organization into a cooperative, non-profit membership organization | |||
(click to review the full by-laws). | |||
21:22 <@jokeefe> My thought is to vote Yes/Yes/Yes | |||
21:22 * srevilak agrees with jokeefe | |||
21:23 < DesmondRavenstone> Or, as Sean Connery might say: Yesh, Yesh, Yesh | |||
21:23 <@jokeefe> lol | |||
21:23 < Malt> Same | |||
21:23 < srevilak> igel[m]: second question: Establish a special | |||
relationship with the Primero de Mayo Coop in Mexico (as defined in our | |||
new by-laws) in order to continue our bi-national leadership and strategy. | |||
21:24 < srevilak> See https://vote.mayfirst.org/node/84 | |||
21:24 < srevilak> igel[m]: third question: Grant authority for the | |||
existing Leadership Committee to continue until the new board can | |||
be elected. | |||
21:24 < srevilak> See https://vote.mayfirst.org/node/86 | |||
21:25 <@jokeefe> thoughts? | |||
21:26 < DesmondRavenstone> If we vote for the first two, the third makes | |||
complete sense. | |||
21:26 < Malt> No strong objections here | |||
21:26 < Pirate_Joe> Though this may affect us, I have little interest | |||
in it currently and will defer judgement to more informed members of | |||
our committee. | |||
21:27 < Pirate_Joe> IE jokeefe and srevilak | |||
21:29 <@jokeefe> any objections? | |||
21:30 < DesmondRavenstone> Not on my part | |||
21:30 < srevilak> no objection | |||
21:30 < Malt> Nine | |||
21:31 < Malt> None | |||
21:31 < Pirate_Joe> None here as well | |||
21:31 <@jokeefe> igel[m]? | |||
21:32 <@jokeefe> to answer your question, igel[m], I have no idea how | |||
other members will vote. srevilak? | |||
21:33 < srevilak> I voted yes, yes, yes | |||
21:33 < srevilak> Can't speak for any other members, however | |||
21:33 < Malt> Same, all yesses here | |||
21:33 < igel[m]> ok | |||
21:33 < DesmondRavenstone> Like Pirate_Joe will concur with others | |||
21:34 < igel[m]> no obj here | |||
21:34 < Pirate_Joe> I trust Srevilak's judgement, his wit is quick and | |||
his eye be true | |||
21:34 < igel[m]> lol | |||
21:34 <@jokeefe> ok, will vote Yes/Yes/Yes, then | |||
21:34 * DesmondRavenstone loves Pirate_Joe's turn of phrase | |||
21:34 < srevilak> Pirate_Joe hopes so :) | |||
21:35 <@jokeefe> Projects | |||
21:35 <@jokeefe> Regional Meetings | |||
21:35 < srevilak> I had volunteered to work on invitation message copy | |||
this past weekend | |||
21:35 < srevilak> Got too caught up in GoTV | |||
21:35 <@jokeefe> this weekend? | |||
21:36 < srevilak> jokeefe: no, three days ago | |||
21:36 <@jokeefe> would you be able to finish that? | |||
21:36 < srevilak> jokeefe: will give myself a deadline of friday night | |||
to draft | |||
21:36 <@jokeefe> thank you | |||
21:37 <@jokeefe> Due to family developments, I asked Owen if we could | |||
move the Holyoke event back. Haven’t heard from him yet. | |||
21:38 < srevilak> jokeefe: if postponing would help you out, then we | |||
should do that | |||
21:40 <@jokeefe> thanks | |||
21:41 < srevilak> I'll work on copy anyway. We can use it whenever | |||
21:41 <@jokeefe> Should have time tomorrow to post a poll for the October | |||
general meeting | |||
21:41 <@jokeefe> and send out an email to volunteers/supporters | |||
21:42 <@jokeefe> Pirate_Joe - do we have the final time for the picnic | |||
you were hosting? | |||
21:43 < Pirate_Joe> I have not booked the catering yet, but I am hopeful | |||
for the afternoon | |||
21:43 <@jokeefe> thanks | |||
21:43 <@jokeefe> Video Newsletter | |||
21:44 < Pirate_Joe> I should be available Sunday in the morning, Does | |||
10:30 sound good for everyone? | |||
21:44 <@jokeefe> Will have last one up tomorrow. Been a bit distracted | |||
21:44 < Malt> Ok | |||
21:45 < Pirate_Joe> Understandable, it gets done when we can get to it. | |||
21:45 <@jokeefe> Sunday 10:30am should be fine | |||
21:46 < Pirate_Joe> Would anyone else like to attend? I will be discussing | |||
Brexit | |||
21:46 < Malt> I should be around | |||
21:46 < DesmondRavenstone> Not sure if I can make it | |||
21:46 < srevilak> I can make it | |||
21:46 < Pirate_Joe> And Trumps complete botching of it thus far | |||
21:47 < Pirate_Joe> Did you see his meeting with the Irish Prime minister? | |||
21:47 < igel[m]> no | |||
21:47 < Pirate_Joe> It's painful to watch | |||
21:49 * DesmondRavenstone wines | |||
21:49 <@jokeefe> We should include local stuff as well: MBTA detrailments | |||
for one | |||
21:49 < Pirate_Joe> I plan to make this one a bit longer for more natural | |||
discussion. With a few key Pirate issues on display for it, I don't want | |||
to miss this opportunity for good click baitiness. | |||
21:49 <@jokeefe> also: | |||
21:49 <@jokeefe> | |||
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/06/04/top-court-mass-review-controversial-technology-police-use-track-cars/rrMNeqIuYxc1rmiANhnrJK/story.html | |||
21:50 * DesmondRavenstone winces about Irish PM & Trump | |||
21:50 <@jokeefe> | |||
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190608/10443842355/obtained-records-show-ice-is-using-alpr-databases-to-reconstruct-targets-lives.shtml | |||
21:50 <@jokeefe> Brexit/Trump - the gifts that just keep on giving | |||
21:50 < Malt> Yeah the plate tracking is a Big Deal | |||
21:50 * DesmondRavenstone winces again over links | |||
21:50 < igel[m]> yes | |||
21:50 <@jokeefe> | |||
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/06/hackers-stole-thousands-of-border-crossing-photos-from-border-agency/ | |||
21:51 < igel[m]> we have children in same detention concentration | |||
internment centers as japaneese were held in during WWII | |||
21:52 < igel[m]> pity we do not have democracy | |||
21:52 < igel[m]> at so many levels | |||
21:52 <@jokeefe> aye that | |||
21:52 < Malt> We gotta boost those hackers | |||
21:52 * DesmondRavenstone nods in agreement | |||
21:52 <@jokeefe> to that - | |||
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190608/19442942359/ice-is-cramming-immigrants-into-filthy-overcrowded-facilities.shtml | |||
21:53 < igel[m]> kids now limited to 30min outdoor time remaining in | |||
the jail cells | |||
21:54 < Pirate_Joe> So really good bit to go on for that, so we are | |||
doing it. That's all I have on that topic. | |||
21:54 < Pirate_Joe> All are welcome to attend, the more the merrier. | |||
21:54 < Malt> That story is pirate gold | |||
21:54 < Malt> Yeah | |||
21:54 <@jokeefe> 10:30am Sunday then | |||
21:55 <@jokeefe> igel[m]: How goes Mass Mesh Net? | |||
21:56 < igel[m]> folks are stepping up with outreach soo much | |||
21:56 <@jokeefe> Wonderful! | |||
21:56 < igel[m]> hopefully critical mass this summer | |||
21:57 <@jokeefe> Cryptoparties - Somerville one will be 6/26 at the | |||
Sprouts | |||
21:57 < Malt> Nice | |||
21:57 <@jokeefe> Topic is 2FA devices | |||
21:58 < srevilak> we're getting close to time | |||
21:59 <@jokeefe> aye that is all i have | |||
21:59 < igel[m]> snds good re: 2fa | |||
21:59 <@jokeefe> motion to adjourn? | |||
21:59 < Pirate_Joe> 2nd | |||
21:59 <@jokeefe> all in favor? | |||
21:59 < Malt> Aye | |||
21:59 < srevilak> aye | |||
22:00 <@jokeefe> srevilak, would you get the notes and the summary? | |||
22:00 < Pirate_Joe> Aye | |||
22:00 < srevilak> jokeefe: sure | |||
22:00 <@jokeefe> thank you | |||
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Latest revision as of 12:51, 19 June 2019
Review
Decisions/Endorsements
Leadership/activist/volunteer picnic
6/30, 2-4pm, Somerville
Mayfirst Voting To Change Its Structure
- -- Should we approve these new by-laws that make us a non-profit membership organization -- the non-profit version of a coop?
- -- If you vote "yes" on the new by-laws, should we adopt a "special relationship" (as defined by these new by-laws) with the May First coop in Mexico?
- -- If you vote "yes" on the new by-laws, should we authorize the current Leadership Committee to continue in its current role until the elections for the new Board of Directors can be held (probably sometime in September)?
Bylaws - https://mayfirst.org/files/bylaws.en.pdf
Discussion - https://comment.mayfirst.org/t/discuss-the-proposed-coop-by-laws/1245
Projects
Goals for Q2:
- Organize meetups
- Organize election
- Organize Fundraiser(s)
- Organize candidate trainings
- Revise platform
Regional Meetings
Leader:
Video Newsletter
Leader: Joseph
- Next pirate news recording?
Update Platform
Mesh Net
Leader: igel[m]
Cryptoparties
Leader:
Tech/Outreach
- meeting scheduled June 15th
- find discussion/voting system
- update blog theme
- update civicrm software
- set up torrents for PirateCon videos (creynolds)
- post remaining audio for PirateCon talks (srevilak)
Tasks
Statement on Alabama/Ohio/Georgia Abortion ban bills/laws
Fight bills to make the Film Credit Permanent
HD388 would make the film tax credit permanent. It is supposed to expire in 2023. The bill has 100+ signatures this time around. There isn't a hearing date for it yet.
Action items:
- Tell our supporters how to oppose it
- Look out for a hearing date
- If possible, reach out to other groups to organize a lobby day
National Platform reform/remake
Tabled Projects
These have been on our agenda for a long time. How do we make them a reality?
Boston Sex Worker Petition
Non-pirate guest speakers for Pirate News
CCTV camera map
Computer Donations
https://piratenpad.de/p/MassPiratesComputerDonations
Video Newsletter guest speakers
FOSS Tutorials
Worcester farm group is interested in having some FOSS tutorials. Perhaps:
- how to do basic labels in GIMP,
- work through a few sample spreadsheets related to seed cost and
- similarly applicable real-world situations, depending on the needs of the group
Basically how to do graph design & product management with open source tools. Malt will put together a one paragraph description of what we need and we can mail it out to ask pirates to help.
Upcoming Events
- 6/18, 7-9pm, Mass MeshNet Tech Meeting
- 6/22, 11am-4pm, Holyoke Pirate Meetup, Board Room, Holyoke Public Library, Holyoke
- 6/25, 7-9pm, Mass MeshNet Tech Meeting
- 6/25, 6-9pm, Somerville Cryptoparty, The Sprouts
- 6/30, 2pm-4pm, Leadership/Activist/Volunteer Meetup, Somerville
- 7/1, 7-9pm, Mass MeshNet Tech Meeting
Participants
Observers
- bonelesspepsi
- davidd
- hvxgr
- hvxgr_
- MikaelaSuomalainen
Summary
Minutes
21:02 <@jokeefe> Agenda: https://masspirates.org/wiki/June_12th,_2019_IRC_Meeting 21:02 <@jokeefe> ids 21:02 < Malt> Niiiiiiice 21:02 < igel[m]> yar 21:02 <@jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville 21:02 < Pirate_Joe> Joseph Onoroski, Lowell 21:02 < DesmondRavenstone> Desmond Ravenstone, Boston (Roslindale) 21:02 < srevilak> Pirate_Joe: type "/me" at the beginning of the line, then other stuff 21:02 < Malt> Sam capradae, Worcester 21:02 < Pirate_Joe> Ahh, ty 21:03 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington 21:03 < igel[m]> william fleurant, arlington 21:03 * Malt slaps self with a large trout 21:03 < srevilak> Malt: has gotten the hang of it 21:04 <@jokeefe> anything to add? 21:04 < DesmondRavenstone> * DesmondRavenstone sticks his elbow in his ear 21:04 < Pirate_Joe> Only one comment for the national meeting 21:04 <@jokeefe> ok, please add it to the agenda 21:05 < DesmondRavenstone> *DesmondRavenstone takes elbow out of ear 21:05 < Pirate_Joe> I do not have access to such things on this pc, please add it for me. 21:05 <@jokeefe> Review - anything to review? 21:05 < DesmondRavenstone> */me again puts elbow in ear 21:05 < Pirate_Joe> New appointment on the national level 21:06 < srevilak> DesmondRavenstone: "/me " has to be the first four characters on the line. (No "*" in front) 21:06 * DesmondRavenstone removes elbow from ear 21:06 < DesmondRavenstone> AHA! 21:06 * srevilak thinks DesmondRavenstone has got the hang of it 21:06 < Pirate_Joe> New appointment on the national level 21:07 * DesmondRavenstone likes bragging about his flexibility 21:07 < Malt> Oh? 21:07 <@jokeefe> What is the new national level appointment Pirate_Joe? 21:07 < Pirate_Joe> Webmaster 21:07 < DesmondRavenstone> Yes, do tell! 21:08 < Malt> Could you hit me up with a link Monday? Might be able to make it 21:08 <@jokeefe> Thanks Malt 21:08 < Pirate_Joe> So we were contacted by an indiviual that goes by the name Johan. Very excited, wanting to ramp up things for both the national level and individual states 21:09 <@jokeefe> great 21:09 < Malt> Nice 21:09 < DesmondRavenstone> What ideas does Johan have? 21:09 < Pirate_Joe> We nominated him to Webmaster and we will be setting up a merch account when I get everything done for setting up the pac, which at this point is whenever I can get to it. 21:10 <@jokeefe> cool 21:10 < Pirate_Joe> He is a former lawyer for Washington D.C. Supreme court circuit and so he is about to retire. Likes our party and wanted to do a bit to help us ramp up. 21:11 <@jokeefe> glad to have the help 21:11 <@jokeefe> Decisions/Endorsements 21:11 < Pirate_Joe> That's all I have on that matter for the moment, but we may end up doing an active distribution to the states for running candidates 21:12 <@jokeefe> thank you 21:12 < Malt> Cool! 21:12 < Pirate_Joe> Thanks, that's all I have 21:12 <@jokeefe> Leadership/activist/volunteer picnic - Set for 6/29 2-4pm. 21:12 < Malt> I'm out of the state, sorry buds 21:12 <@jokeefe> Will email out to the activist list and volunteers tomorrow 21:13 <@jokeefe> have a wonderful trip, Malt 21:13 < Pirate_Joe> I may be able to attend but I will have the little pirate with me. 21:13 < Malt> I'm driving Gramma from Florida to VT 21:13 <@jokeefe> Will have a grill and some food 21:13 <@jokeefe> Hope you aren’t doing it all at once 21:13 < Pirate_Joe> I'll bring some food as well. Or perhaps a tasty beverage or 20 21:13 <@jokeefe> Pirate_Joe little pirates are fun 21:14 < Pirate_Joe> Aye 21:14 <@jokeefe> Mayfirst Voting To Change Its Structure 21:14 <@jokeefe> srevilak, would you be able to give a summary? 21:14 < srevilak> I've downloaded the new set of bylaws. Was planning to read them and vote later in the week 21:15 < srevilak> But the general gist. MF/PL operates in two countries, US and MX. MX is formally set up as a co-op 21:15 <@jokeefe> We have to vote by 6/17 21:15 < srevilak> US is chartered as a non-profit 21:15 < srevilak> One of the goals was to have more similar organizational structures in the two countries 21:16 < srevilak> My understanding is that the US portion will have a board, rather than a leadership committee 21:17 <@jokeefe> Questions are: 21:17 <@jokeefe> -- Should we approve these new by-laws that make us a non-profit membership organization -- the non-profit version of a coop? 21:17 <@jokeefe> -- If you vote "yes" on the new by-laws, should we adopt a "special relationship" (as defined by these new by-laws) with the May First coop in Mexico? 21:17 <@jokeefe> -- If you vote "yes" on the new by-laws, should we authorize the current Leadership Committee to continue in its current role until the elections for the new Board of Directors can be held (probably sometime in September)? 21:17 <@jokeefe> Bylaws - https://mayfirst.org/files/bylaws.en.pdf 21:17 <@jokeefe> Discussion - https://comment.mayfirst.org/t/discuss-the-proposed-coop-by-laws/1245 21:17 < srevilak> It will still be a membership-based organization 21:18 < srevilak> jokeefe: I'm in favor of that 21:18 < Malt> Yes 21:18 <@jokeefe> Wisconsin Pirates are structured as a coop 21:19 < DesmondRavenstone> Query: Aren't there rules about how Mass political parties are to be organized? 21:19 <@jokeefe> this isn’t for us 21:19 <@jokeefe> it is for how our hosting provider is organized. 21:20 <@jokeefe> we have to vote or not by 6/17 21:20 < srevilak> I've now read through the bylaws. I'm fine with supporting 21:21 < igel[m]> how might other mayfirst subscribers vote 21:21 <@jokeefe> does that answer your question DesmondRavenstone? 21:21 < DesmondRavenstone> I believe so, thanks 21:21 <@jokeefe> ahoy igel[m] 21:22 <@jokeefe> great 21:22 < srevilak> igel[m]: there are three questions 21:22 < srevilak> Adopt the proposed by-laws formally transitioning the organization into a cooperative, non-profit membership organization (click to review the full by-laws). 21:22 <@jokeefe> My thought is to vote Yes/Yes/Yes 21:22 * srevilak agrees with jokeefe 21:23 < DesmondRavenstone> Or, as Sean Connery might say: Yesh, Yesh, Yesh 21:23 <@jokeefe> lol 21:23 < Malt> Same 21:23 < srevilak> igel[m]: second question: Establish a special relationship with the Primero de Mayo Coop in Mexico (as defined in our new by-laws) in order to continue our bi-national leadership and strategy. 21:24 < srevilak> See https://vote.mayfirst.org/node/84 21:24 < srevilak> igel[m]: third question: Grant authority for the existing Leadership Committee to continue until the new board can be elected. 21:24 < srevilak> See https://vote.mayfirst.org/node/86 21:25 <@jokeefe> thoughts? 21:26 < DesmondRavenstone> If we vote for the first two, the third makes complete sense. 21:26 < Malt> No strong objections here 21:26 < Pirate_Joe> Though this may affect us, I have little interest in it currently and will defer judgement to more informed members of our committee. 21:27 < Pirate_Joe> IE jokeefe and srevilak 21:29 <@jokeefe> any objections? 21:30 < DesmondRavenstone> Not on my part 21:30 < srevilak> no objection 21:30 < Malt> Nine 21:31 < Malt> None 21:31 < Pirate_Joe> None here as well 21:31 <@jokeefe> igel[m]? 21:32 <@jokeefe> to answer your question, igel[m], I have no idea how other members will vote. srevilak? 21:33 < srevilak> I voted yes, yes, yes 21:33 < srevilak> Can't speak for any other members, however 21:33 < Malt> Same, all yesses here 21:33 < igel[m]> ok 21:33 < DesmondRavenstone> Like Pirate_Joe will concur with others 21:34 < igel[m]> no obj here 21:34 < Pirate_Joe> I trust Srevilak's judgement, his wit is quick and his eye be true 21:34 < igel[m]> lol 21:34 <@jokeefe> ok, will vote Yes/Yes/Yes, then 21:34 * DesmondRavenstone loves Pirate_Joe's turn of phrase 21:34 < srevilak> Pirate_Joe hopes so :) 21:35 <@jokeefe> Projects 21:35 <@jokeefe> Regional Meetings 21:35 < srevilak> I had volunteered to work on invitation message copy this past weekend 21:35 < srevilak> Got too caught up in GoTV 21:35 <@jokeefe> this weekend? 21:36 < srevilak> jokeefe: no, three days ago 21:36 <@jokeefe> would you be able to finish that? 21:36 < srevilak> jokeefe: will give myself a deadline of friday night to draft 21:36 <@jokeefe> thank you 21:37 <@jokeefe> Due to family developments, I asked Owen if we could move the Holyoke event back. Haven’t heard from him yet. 21:38 < srevilak> jokeefe: if postponing would help you out, then we should do that 21:40 <@jokeefe> thanks 21:41 < srevilak> I'll work on copy anyway. We can use it whenever 21:41 <@jokeefe> Should have time tomorrow to post a poll for the October general meeting 21:41 <@jokeefe> and send out an email to volunteers/supporters 21:42 <@jokeefe> Pirate_Joe - do we have the final time for the picnic you were hosting? 21:43 < Pirate_Joe> I have not booked the catering yet, but I am hopeful for the afternoon 21:43 <@jokeefe> thanks 21:43 <@jokeefe> Video Newsletter 21:44 < Pirate_Joe> I should be available Sunday in the morning, Does 10:30 sound good for everyone? 21:44 <@jokeefe> Will have last one up tomorrow. Been a bit distracted 21:44 < Malt> Ok 21:45 < Pirate_Joe> Understandable, it gets done when we can get to it. 21:45 <@jokeefe> Sunday 10:30am should be fine 21:46 < Pirate_Joe> Would anyone else like to attend? I will be discussing Brexit 21:46 < Malt> I should be around 21:46 < DesmondRavenstone> Not sure if I can make it 21:46 < srevilak> I can make it 21:46 < Pirate_Joe> And Trumps complete botching of it thus far 21:47 < Pirate_Joe> Did you see his meeting with the Irish Prime minister? 21:47 < igel[m]> no 21:47 < Pirate_Joe> It's painful to watch 21:49 * DesmondRavenstone wines 21:49 <@jokeefe> We should include local stuff as well: MBTA detrailments for one 21:49 < Pirate_Joe> I plan to make this one a bit longer for more natural discussion. With a few key Pirate issues on display for it, I don't want to miss this opportunity for good click baitiness. 21:49 <@jokeefe> also: 21:49 <@jokeefe> https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/06/04/top-court-mass-review-controversial-technology-police-use-track-cars/rrMNeqIuYxc1rmiANhnrJK/story.html 21:50 * DesmondRavenstone winces about Irish PM & Trump 21:50 <@jokeefe> https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190608/10443842355/obtained-records-show-ice-is-using-alpr-databases-to-reconstruct-targets-lives.shtml 21:50 <@jokeefe> Brexit/Trump - the gifts that just keep on giving 21:50 < Malt> Yeah the plate tracking is a Big Deal 21:50 * DesmondRavenstone winces again over links 21:50 < igel[m]> yes 21:50 <@jokeefe> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/06/hackers-stole-thousands-of-border-crossing-photos-from-border-agency/ 21:51 < igel[m]> we have children in same detention concentration internment centers as japaneese were held in during WWII 21:52 < igel[m]> pity we do not have democracy 21:52 < igel[m]> at so many levels 21:52 <@jokeefe> aye that 21:52 < Malt> We gotta boost those hackers 21:52 * DesmondRavenstone nods in agreement 21:52 <@jokeefe> to that - https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190608/19442942359/ice-is-cramming-immigrants-into-filthy-overcrowded-facilities.shtml 21:53 < igel[m]> kids now limited to 30min outdoor time remaining in the jail cells 21:54 < Pirate_Joe> So really good bit to go on for that, so we are doing it. That's all I have on that topic. 21:54 < Pirate_Joe> All are welcome to attend, the more the merrier. 21:54 < Malt> That story is pirate gold 21:54 < Malt> Yeah 21:54 <@jokeefe> 10:30am Sunday then 21:55 <@jokeefe> igel[m]: How goes Mass Mesh Net? 21:56 < igel[m]> folks are stepping up with outreach soo much 21:56 <@jokeefe> Wonderful! 21:56 < igel[m]> hopefully critical mass this summer 21:57 <@jokeefe> Cryptoparties - Somerville one will be 6/26 at the Sprouts 21:57 < Malt> Nice 21:57 <@jokeefe> Topic is 2FA devices 21:58 < srevilak> we're getting close to time 21:59 <@jokeefe> aye that is all i have 21:59 < igel[m]> snds good re: 2fa 21:59 <@jokeefe> motion to adjourn? 21:59 < Pirate_Joe> 2nd 21:59 <@jokeefe> all in favor? 21:59 < Malt> Aye 21:59 < srevilak> aye 22:00 <@jokeefe> srevilak, would you get the notes and the summary? 22:00 < Pirate_Joe> Aye 22:00 < srevilak> jokeefe: sure 22:00 <@jokeefe> thank you