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== Review ==  | == Review ==  | ||
=== Camera mapping outing ===  | |||
== Decisions/Endorsements ==  | == Decisions/Endorsements ==  | ||
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== Participants ==  | == Participants ==  | ||
* jokeefe  | * jokeefe (James O’Keefe, Somerville)  | ||
* srevilak  | * srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA)  | ||
* malt (sam capradae, worcester)  | |||
=== Observers ===  | === Observers ===  | ||
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== Summary ==  | == Summary ==  | ||
Review - Camera mapping.  | |||
* went well.  Mapped 160+ cameras  | |||
Platform - Elections and voting  | |||
* https://etherpad.pp-international.net/p/ElectionsAndVoting  | |||
* srevilak suggests https://open.bu.edu/handle/2144/34276, "Who participates in local government" as an example of who's represented in local governments.  (The research is MA-specific)  | |||
* jokeefe suggests https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1569472.The_Vermont_Papers for ideas on devolution  | |||
== Minutes ==  | == Minutes ==  | ||
   <nowiki>  |    <nowiki>  | ||
21:05 <@jokeefe> Agenda:  | |||
       https://masspirates.org/wiki/August_11th,_2021_IRC_Meeting  | |||
21:06 <@jokeefe> ids  | |||
21:06 <@jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville  | |||
21:06 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA  | |||
21:07 <@jokeefe> anything to add?  | |||
21:07 < malt> allo allo  | |||
21:07 < srevilak> hi malt  | |||
21:07 <@jokeefe> ahoy  | |||
21:08 <@jokeefe> Agenda:  | |||
       https://masspirates.org/wiki/August_11th,_2021_IRC_Meeting  | |||
21:08 <@jokeefe> we already started ids  | |||
21:08 < malt> sam capradae, worcester  | |||
21:09 <@jokeefe> Review  | |||
21:09 <@jokeefe> Camera mapping outing  | |||
21:09 < malt> how'd it go?  | |||
21:10 <@jokeefe> well  | |||
21:10 <@jokeefe> map is updated  | |||
21:11 < srevilak>  | |||
       https://cctv.masspirates.org/?lat=42.3601&lon=-71.0589&zoom=11  | |||
21:11 < srevilak> looks good  | |||
21:12 < malt> whoa!  | |||
21:12 < malt> y'all found a lot, huh  | |||
21:12 <@jokeefe> 160+  | |||
21:14 <@jokeefe> I’ll create a page for tips on running one  | |||
21:16 <@jokeefe> one idea was how to divide up the work, such as how  | |||
       two people can split up a building so they cover it effectively  | |||
21:16 < srevilak> With the number on the courhouse, I could see how two  | |||
       people would make the job go faster  | |||
21:17 < malt> yeah they always have such ridiculosly redundant clusters  | |||
21:17 < malt> its the same in worcester  | |||
21:18 < malt> btw scott brown quit his job after less than a year and  | |||
       is gonna go back to politics  | |||
21:19 < srevilak> Wait, what was his job?  | |||
21:19 <@jokeefe> senator  | |||
21:20 <@jokeefe> It was really a good time. More people next time.  | |||
21:21 <@jokeefe> looking forward to writing the post about it  | |||
21:21 < malt> he was the head of a lawyer's association  | |||
21:23 <@jokeefe> Decisions/Endorsements  | |||
21:23 <@jokeefe> Platform  | |||
21:23 <@jokeefe>  | |||
       https://etherpad.pp-international.net/p/ElectionsAndVoting  | |||
21:28 <@jokeefe> <editing ensues/>  | |||
21:31 < srevilak> I like the idea of bringing back county goverments,  | |||
       because there are many challenges that are best addressed at a regional  | |||
       level.  I do have some concerns about putting more power in the hands  | |||
       of muni goverments.  | |||
21:32 < srevilak> Town meetings are the closest we have to direct  | |||
       democracy, but they also limit who can participate  | |||
21:32 < srevilak> And townies like to externalize perceived negatives  | |||
       as much as any corporation  | |||
21:33 < srevilak> With more power, there has to be more responsibility  | |||
       to meet regional goals (at least)  | |||
21:33 <@jokeefe> Hopefully regions would counteract that, but feel free  | |||
       to add that concern when thinking about devolving power  | |||
21:34 <@jokeefe> we talk about making election day a holiday, perhaps  | |||
       town meeting days should also be holidays  | |||
21:35 < malt> more bread! more circus!  | |||
21:38 < malt> Can we combine land doesn't vote/ranked choice voting?  | |||
21:38 < malt> maybe "abolish the senate, institute ranked choice voting?  | |||
21:39 <@jokeefe> that sounds good  | |||
21:39 <@jokeefe> Recommend reading  | |||
       https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1569472.The_Vermont_Papers for some  | |||
       ideas on devolution  | |||
21:40 < malt> i think i still have a paper copy of the vermont succession  | |||
       handbook  | |||
21:51 <@jokeefe> made some changes to the first section. what do you  | |||
       think?  | |||
21:53 < malt> mmm the last two sentences can be more concise  | |||
21:54 < malt> "localities must work together to protect their natural  | |||
       resources against exploitation?  | |||
21:54 < malt> \  | |||
21:56 <@jokeefe> examples can be good. will defer to srevilak since he  | |||
       raised these concernts  | |||
21:59 < srevilak> Whoever redid 0, nice job.  I like it!  | |||
21:59 < malt> well, if he's good with it i'm good with it  | |||
21:59 < srevilak> I added one last sentence  | |||
22:00 < srevilak> shall we call it a night?  | |||
22:01 <@jokeefe> sure. I am working on a No Taxation Without  | |||
       Representation - immigrants should have the right to vote section  | |||
22:01 <@jokeefe> Let’s pick it up next time. Thanks for the great edits!  | |||
22:02 <@jokeefe> all in favor of adjourning?  | |||
22:02 < srevilak> aye  | |||
22:02 < srevilak> will post transcript  | |||
</nowiki>  | </nowiki>  | ||
Latest revision as of 21:04, 11 August 2021
Review
Camera mapping outing
Decisions/Endorsements
Platform
Planks: https://github.com/masspirates/planks
Working on Elections and Voting plank: https://etherpad.pp-international.net/p/ElectionsAndVoting
Projects
Legislation
Outreach
Leader: Malt
- Setup local video meetups by region with people who said they were interested in organizing a local chapter
 - Organize candidate trainings
 
Video Newsletter/Podcast
Leader: Joseph
- Pirate news recording scheduled for Sundays, 7pm with go-live at 7:30pm. Unless changed
 
Trans Advocacy Telethon
Other To Do
- Application to PPI
 
Upcoming On-line Events
Participants
- jokeefe (James O’Keefe, Somerville)
 - srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA)
 - malt (sam capradae, worcester)
 
Observers
- davidd
 - hvxgr
 - slerman
 
Summary
Review - Camera mapping.
- went well. Mapped 160+ cameras
 
Platform - Elections and voting
- https://etherpad.pp-international.net/p/ElectionsAndVoting
 - srevilak suggests https://open.bu.edu/handle/2144/34276, "Who participates in local government" as an example of who's represented in local governments. (The research is MA-specific)
 - jokeefe suggests https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1569472.The_Vermont_Papers for ideas on devolution
 
Minutes
 
21:05 <@jokeefe> Agenda:
       https://masspirates.org/wiki/August_11th,_2021_IRC_Meeting
21:06 <@jokeefe> ids
21:06 <@jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville
21:06 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA
21:07 <@jokeefe> anything to add?
21:07 < malt> allo allo
21:07 < srevilak> hi malt
21:07 <@jokeefe> ahoy
21:08 <@jokeefe> Agenda:
       https://masspirates.org/wiki/August_11th,_2021_IRC_Meeting
21:08 <@jokeefe> we already started ids
21:08 < malt> sam capradae, worcester
21:09 <@jokeefe> Review
21:09 <@jokeefe> Camera mapping outing
21:09 < malt> how'd it go?
21:10 <@jokeefe> well
21:10 <@jokeefe> map is updated
21:11 < srevilak>
       https://cctv.masspirates.org/?lat=42.3601&lon=-71.0589&zoom=11
21:11 < srevilak> looks good
21:12 < malt> whoa!
21:12 < malt> y'all found a lot, huh
21:12 <@jokeefe> 160+
21:14 <@jokeefe> I’ll create a page for tips on running one
21:16 <@jokeefe> one idea was how to divide up the work, such as how
       two people can split up a building so they cover it effectively
21:16 < srevilak> With the number on the courhouse, I could see how two
       people would make the job go faster
21:17 < malt> yeah they always have such ridiculosly redundant clusters
21:17 < malt> its the same in worcester
21:18 < malt> btw scott brown quit his job after less than a year and
       is gonna go back to politics
21:19 < srevilak> Wait, what was his job?
21:19 <@jokeefe> senator
21:20 <@jokeefe> It was really a good time. More people next time.
21:21 <@jokeefe> looking forward to writing the post about it
21:21 < malt> he was the head of a lawyer's association
21:23 <@jokeefe> Decisions/Endorsements
21:23 <@jokeefe> Platform
21:23 <@jokeefe>
       https://etherpad.pp-international.net/p/ElectionsAndVoting
21:28 <@jokeefe> <editing ensues/>
21:31 < srevilak> I like the idea of bringing back county goverments,
       because there are many challenges that are best addressed at a regional
       level.  I do have some concerns about putting more power in the hands
       of muni goverments.
21:32 < srevilak> Town meetings are the closest we have to direct
       democracy, but they also limit who can participate
21:32 < srevilak> And townies like to externalize perceived negatives
       as much as any corporation
21:33 < srevilak> With more power, there has to be more responsibility
       to meet regional goals (at least)
21:33 <@jokeefe> Hopefully regions would counteract that, but feel free
       to add that concern when thinking about devolving power
21:34 <@jokeefe> we talk about making election day a holiday, perhaps
       town meeting days should also be holidays
21:35 < malt> more bread! more circus!
21:38 < malt> Can we combine land doesn't vote/ranked choice voting?
21:38 < malt> maybe "abolish the senate, institute ranked choice voting?
21:39 <@jokeefe> that sounds good
21:39 <@jokeefe> Recommend reading
       https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1569472.The_Vermont_Papers for some
       ideas on devolution
21:40 < malt> i think i still have a paper copy of the vermont succession
       handbook
21:51 <@jokeefe> made some changes to the first section. what do you
       think?
21:53 < malt> mmm the last two sentences can be more concise
21:54 < malt> "localities must work together to protect their natural
       resources against exploitation?
21:54 < malt> \
21:56 <@jokeefe> examples can be good. will defer to srevilak since he
       raised these concernts
21:59 < srevilak> Whoever redid 0, nice job.  I like it!
21:59 < malt> well, if he's good with it i'm good with it
21:59 < srevilak> I added one last sentence
22:00 < srevilak> shall we call it a night?
22:01 <@jokeefe> sure. I am working on a No Taxation Without
       Representation - immigrants should have the right to vote section
22:01 <@jokeefe> Let’s pick it up next time. Thanks for the great edits!
22:02 <@jokeefe> all in favor of adjourning?
22:02 < srevilak> aye
22:02 < srevilak> will post transcript