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== Summary == | == Summary == | ||
Review - Camera mapping. | |||
* went well. Mapped 160+ cameras | |||
Platform - Elections and voting | |||
* https://etherpad.pp-international.net/p/ElectionsAndVoting | |||
* srevilak suggests https://open.bu.edu/handle/2144/34276, "Who participates in local government" as an example of who's represented in local governments. (The research is MA-specific) | |||
* jokeefe suggests https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1569472.The_Vermont_Papers for ideas on devolution | |||
== Minutes == | == Minutes == | ||
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21:05 <@jokeefe> Agenda: | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/August_11th,_2021_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:06 <@jokeefe> ids | |||
21:06 <@jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville | |||
21:06 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA | |||
21:07 <@jokeefe> anything to add? | |||
21:07 < malt> allo allo | |||
21:07 < srevilak> hi malt | |||
21:07 <@jokeefe> ahoy | |||
21:08 <@jokeefe> Agenda: | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/August_11th,_2021_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:08 <@jokeefe> we already started ids | |||
21:08 < malt> sam capradae, worcester | |||
21:09 <@jokeefe> Review | |||
21:09 <@jokeefe> Camera mapping outing | |||
21:09 < malt> how'd it go? | |||
21:10 <@jokeefe> well | |||
21:10 <@jokeefe> map is updated | |||
21:11 < srevilak> | |||
https://cctv.masspirates.org/?lat=42.3601&lon=-71.0589&zoom=11 | |||
21:11 < srevilak> looks good | |||
21:12 < malt> whoa! | |||
21:12 < malt> y'all found a lot, huh | |||
21:12 <@jokeefe> 160+ | |||
21:14 <@jokeefe> I’ll create a page for tips on running one | |||
21:16 <@jokeefe> one idea was how to divide up the work, such as how | |||
two people can split up a building so they cover it effectively | |||
21:16 < srevilak> With the number on the courhouse, I could see how two | |||
people would make the job go faster | |||
21:17 < malt> yeah they always have such ridiculosly redundant clusters | |||
21:17 < malt> its the same in worcester | |||
21:18 < malt> btw scott brown quit his job after less than a year and | |||
is gonna go back to politics | |||
21:19 < srevilak> Wait, what was his job? | |||
21:19 <@jokeefe> senator | |||
21:20 <@jokeefe> It was really a good time. More people next time. | |||
21:21 <@jokeefe> looking forward to writing the post about it | |||
21:21 < malt> he was the head of a lawyer's association | |||
21:23 <@jokeefe> Decisions/Endorsements | |||
21:23 <@jokeefe> Platform | |||
21:23 <@jokeefe> | |||
https://etherpad.pp-international.net/p/ElectionsAndVoting | |||
21:28 <@jokeefe> <editing ensues/> | |||
21:31 < srevilak> I like the idea of bringing back county goverments, | |||
because there are many challenges that are best addressed at a regional | |||
level. I do have some concerns about putting more power in the hands | |||
of muni goverments. | |||
21:32 < srevilak> Town meetings are the closest we have to direct | |||
democracy, but they also limit who can participate | |||
21:32 < srevilak> And townies like to externalize perceived negatives | |||
as much as any corporation | |||
21:33 < srevilak> With more power, there has to be more responsibility | |||
to meet regional goals (at least) | |||
21:33 <@jokeefe> Hopefully regions would counteract that, but feel free | |||
to add that concern when thinking about devolving power | |||
21:34 <@jokeefe> we talk about making election day a holiday, perhaps | |||
town meeting days should also be holidays | |||
21:35 < malt> more bread! more circus! | |||
21:38 < malt> Can we combine land doesn't vote/ranked choice voting? | |||
21:38 < malt> maybe "abolish the senate, institute ranked choice voting? | |||
21:39 <@jokeefe> that sounds good | |||
21:39 <@jokeefe> Recommend reading | |||
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1569472.The_Vermont_Papers for some | |||
ideas on devolution | |||
21:40 < malt> i think i still have a paper copy of the vermont succession | |||
handbook | |||
21:51 <@jokeefe> made some changes to the first section. what do you | |||
think? | |||
21:53 < malt> mmm the last two sentences can be more concise | |||
21:54 < malt> "localities must work together to protect their natural | |||
resources against exploitation? | |||
21:54 < malt> \ | |||
21:56 <@jokeefe> examples can be good. will defer to srevilak since he | |||
raised these concernts | |||
21:59 < srevilak> Whoever redid 0, nice job. I like it! | |||
21:59 < malt> well, if he's good with it i'm good with it | |||
21:59 < srevilak> I added one last sentence | |||
22:00 < srevilak> shall we call it a night? | |||
22:01 <@jokeefe> sure. I am working on a No Taxation Without | |||
Representation - immigrants should have the right to vote section | |||
22:01 <@jokeefe> Let’s pick it up next time. Thanks for the great edits! | |||
22:02 <@jokeefe> all in favor of adjourning? | |||
22:02 < srevilak> aye | |||
22:02 < srevilak> will post transcript | |||
</nowiki> | </nowiki> | ||
Latest revision as of 22:04, 11 August 2021
Review
Camera mapping outing
Decisions/Endorsements
Platform
Planks: https://github.com/masspirates/planks
Working on Elections and Voting plank: https://etherpad.pp-international.net/p/ElectionsAndVoting
Projects
Legislation
Outreach
Leader: Malt
- Setup local video meetups by region with people who said they were interested in organizing a local chapter
- Organize candidate trainings
Video Newsletter/Podcast
Leader: Joseph
- Pirate news recording scheduled for Sundays, 7pm with go-live at 7:30pm. Unless changed
Trans Advocacy Telethon
Other To Do
- Application to PPI
Upcoming On-line Events
Participants
- jokeefe (James O’Keefe, Somerville)
- srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA)
- malt (sam capradae, worcester)
Observers
- davidd
- hvxgr
- slerman
Summary
Review - Camera mapping.
- went well. Mapped 160+ cameras
Platform - Elections and voting
- https://etherpad.pp-international.net/p/ElectionsAndVoting
- srevilak suggests https://open.bu.edu/handle/2144/34276, "Who participates in local government" as an example of who's represented in local governments. (The research is MA-specific)
- jokeefe suggests https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1569472.The_Vermont_Papers for ideas on devolution
Minutes
21:05 <@jokeefe> Agenda:
https://masspirates.org/wiki/August_11th,_2021_IRC_Meeting
21:06 <@jokeefe> ids
21:06 <@jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville
21:06 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA
21:07 <@jokeefe> anything to add?
21:07 < malt> allo allo
21:07 < srevilak> hi malt
21:07 <@jokeefe> ahoy
21:08 <@jokeefe> Agenda:
https://masspirates.org/wiki/August_11th,_2021_IRC_Meeting
21:08 <@jokeefe> we already started ids
21:08 < malt> sam capradae, worcester
21:09 <@jokeefe> Review
21:09 <@jokeefe> Camera mapping outing
21:09 < malt> how'd it go?
21:10 <@jokeefe> well
21:10 <@jokeefe> map is updated
21:11 < srevilak>
https://cctv.masspirates.org/?lat=42.3601&lon=-71.0589&zoom=11
21:11 < srevilak> looks good
21:12 < malt> whoa!
21:12 < malt> y'all found a lot, huh
21:12 <@jokeefe> 160+
21:14 <@jokeefe> I’ll create a page for tips on running one
21:16 <@jokeefe> one idea was how to divide up the work, such as how
two people can split up a building so they cover it effectively
21:16 < srevilak> With the number on the courhouse, I could see how two
people would make the job go faster
21:17 < malt> yeah they always have such ridiculosly redundant clusters
21:17 < malt> its the same in worcester
21:18 < malt> btw scott brown quit his job after less than a year and
is gonna go back to politics
21:19 < srevilak> Wait, what was his job?
21:19 <@jokeefe> senator
21:20 <@jokeefe> It was really a good time. More people next time.
21:21 <@jokeefe> looking forward to writing the post about it
21:21 < malt> he was the head of a lawyer's association
21:23 <@jokeefe> Decisions/Endorsements
21:23 <@jokeefe> Platform
21:23 <@jokeefe>
https://etherpad.pp-international.net/p/ElectionsAndVoting
21:28 <@jokeefe> <editing ensues/>
21:31 < srevilak> I like the idea of bringing back county goverments,
because there are many challenges that are best addressed at a regional
level. I do have some concerns about putting more power in the hands
of muni goverments.
21:32 < srevilak> Town meetings are the closest we have to direct
democracy, but they also limit who can participate
21:32 < srevilak> And townies like to externalize perceived negatives
as much as any corporation
21:33 < srevilak> With more power, there has to be more responsibility
to meet regional goals (at least)
21:33 <@jokeefe> Hopefully regions would counteract that, but feel free
to add that concern when thinking about devolving power
21:34 <@jokeefe> we talk about making election day a holiday, perhaps
town meeting days should also be holidays
21:35 < malt> more bread! more circus!
21:38 < malt> Can we combine land doesn't vote/ranked choice voting?
21:38 < malt> maybe "abolish the senate, institute ranked choice voting?
21:39 <@jokeefe> that sounds good
21:39 <@jokeefe> Recommend reading
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1569472.The_Vermont_Papers for some
ideas on devolution
21:40 < malt> i think i still have a paper copy of the vermont succession
handbook
21:51 <@jokeefe> made some changes to the first section. what do you
think?
21:53 < malt> mmm the last two sentences can be more concise
21:54 < malt> "localities must work together to protect their natural
resources against exploitation?
21:54 < malt> \
21:56 <@jokeefe> examples can be good. will defer to srevilak since he
raised these concernts
21:59 < srevilak> Whoever redid 0, nice job. I like it!
21:59 < malt> well, if he's good with it i'm good with it
21:59 < srevilak> I added one last sentence
22:00 < srevilak> shall we call it a night?
22:01 <@jokeefe> sure. I am working on a No Taxation Without
Representation - immigrants should have the right to vote section
22:01 <@jokeefe> Let’s pick it up next time. Thanks for the great edits!
22:02 <@jokeefe> all in favor of adjourning?
22:02 < srevilak> aye
22:02 < srevilak> will post transcript