September 12th, 2013 IRC Meeting

Agenda

1. Events
   1. Freedom Rally, September 14 & 15 - Need organizers, announcement for volunteers. Volunteer signup at http://masspirates.wufoo.com/forms/q7x3a1/
   2. Constitution Day Speakout, September 17, Boston
   3. International Talk Like a Pirate Day, September 19
   4. Boston Software Freedom Day, Sat., Sept. 21st, 9:30am - 5:30pm
   5. Cambridge Hearing on Surveillance Cameras, September 26th
   6. CryptoParty, Sat., Sept. 28th,
   7. Digital Media Conference, Cambridge, Oct. 25-27
   8. LibrePlanet Free Software Meeting, Weds Nov 6th, evening, Jamie speaking on the "Dangers of the Surveillance State
   9. Scorpion Bowl, Positronic Design, 903 Dwight St, Holyoke MA. Nov 9th
   10. LibrePlanet Free Software Meeting, Weds Dec 4th, evening, Steve speaking
2. Endorsements
3. Task list: Tasks http://piratenpad.de/SKwdoMqk26

Participants

• davidd
• Igel
• srevilak
• zby
• Bluestreak
• jokeefe
• GarretK
• ageis
• Shidash
• Kendra

Meeting Minutes

[9:05pm] jokeefe: ok, starting meeting - agenda - http://masspirates.org/wiki/September_12th,_2013_IRC_Meeting
[9:06pm] jokeefe: ids - James O'Keefe, Somerville
[9:06pm] Bluestreak: Lucia Fiero
[9:06pm] Igel: William Fleurant, Arlington MA
[9:06pm] GarretK: Garret Kirkland, Winchestah MA
[9:06pm] srevilak: Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA
[9:07pm] jokeefe: hey ageis!  long time no see!
[9:08pm] Bluestreak: Shidash is joining us from Oakland, as well...
[9:08pm] jokeefe: very cool!
[9:08pm] Shidash: kind of
[9:08pm] Shidash: I'll be in and out
[9:08pm] Bluestreak:
[9:08pm] jokeefe: so events - Freedom Rally
[9:08pm] GarretK: yay!
[9:08pm] Bluestreak: LOL
[9:08pm] jokeefe: Got five people helping so far for two days?
[9:09pm] GarretK: ok, let's pause!
[9:09pm] GarretK: there may not be a permit for Sunday
[9:09pm] GarretK: are we all aware of this?
[9:09pm] GarretK: we will know tomorrow... after the hearing
[9:09pm] Bluestreak: 4-5 ppl for Sat...
[9:09pm] Bluestreak: Oh.
[9:09pm] jokeefe: thought they were fighting for both days
[9:09pm] GarretK: Saturday confirmed. Sunday is under contest, to be known tomorrow
[9:09pm] jokeefe: ok
[9:09pm] Bluestreak: You got a link to a story, G?
[9:10pm] GarretK: no, i have insiders
[9:10pm] Bluestreak: Ah.
[9:10pm] GarretK:
[9:10pm] GarretK: this is livestream, sister
[9:10pm] jokeefe: wonder if we get a refund on half the fee if there is only Sat.? 
[9:10pm] Igel: that and related pot-bombing protection
[9:10pm] Bluestreak: Glad to have you on board!
[9:10pm] GarretK: i'm sure MassCann will not burn you
[9:11pm] Bluestreak: Wait, so If we leave all our crap Saturday...
[9:11pm] Bluestreak: and Sunday is cancelled....
[9:11pm] Bluestreak: Oy vey.
[9:11pm] GarretK: can you leave anything on the park overnight?
[9:11pm] Igel: i dont think you can stay in the park
[9:11pm] Bluestreak: That is what I've been told.
[9:11pm] GarretK: you can't after 11pm
[9:11pm] jokeefe: this says permit or not - http://www.thedailychronic.net/2013/25590/boston-freedom-rally-take-place-scheduled-permit-permit/
[9:11pm] Bluestreak: No but your crap can.
[9:11pm] GarretK: correct. we will be there permit or no
[9:12pm] GarretK: what Sunday will actually shape up to be... is in question
[9:12pm] GarretK: i've got my fingers on the triggers for MassCann if Sunday is more disobendience
[9:12pm] GarretK: ...bullhorns^%
[9:12pm] Igel: you can... but
[9:13pm] Igel: hmm
[9:13pm] Igel: i dont understand the history on this
[9:13pm] Igel: but i dont think it has ever been canceled
[9:13pm] Igel: and i think it was HIGHLIGHTED at 9/11
[9:13pm] GarretK: they have tried 4 times to shut it down
[9:13pm] GarretK: they lost every time in court
[9:13pm] jokeefe: so we know tomorrow if Sunday has a permit
[9:14pm] GarretK: correct
[9:14pm] GarretK: we should be there anyways, but it changes what we might be bringing with us (the permits on Sunday)
[9:14pm] Bluestreak: We may have to break down Sat and set up again Sun
[9:15pm] GarretK: ^agreed
[9:15pm] jokeefe: Bluestreak, JFiero, GarretK on Sat.  Bluestreak, JFiero, GarretK, jokeefe on Sun? 
[9:15pm] jokeefe: Not sure, might be able to help setup on Sat.
[9:15pm] Bluestreak: Joe Guertin said he was coming Sat
[9:15pm] jokeefe: game moved to later in day
[9:15pm] Bluestreak: Carpolling with us/me
[9:15pm] jokeefe: ok, good.
[9:15pm] GarretK: I can give a couple hours dedicated each day.... but I've got a lot to do and catch up with
[9:16pm] Bluestreak: I'm sorry game moved to later in Which day
[9:16pm] jokeefe: Bluestreak - you were mailed the map to where our space is?
[9:16pm] jokeefe: game still sat
[9:16pm] Igel: believe in boston. both days prob going to be pretty krad..
[9:16pm] Bluestreak: No, what I got from Valerie Malta is not of the vendor spaces, not what we need.
[9:17pm] Bluestreak: Tom said we are in the smae location as last year
[9:17pm] Igel: jokeefe:  that retweet today re: deutchland pirateparty was censored by the webadmin/subscriber-list
[9:17pm] Bluestreak: Tom also said we need insurance, but we don't so...
[9:17pm] jokeefe: oh that was a nice location
[9:17pm] Bluestreak: Yes it was.
[9:18pm] Kendra joined the chat room.
[9:18pm] jokeefe: hi Kendra
[9:18pm] jokeefe: what do you mean lgel?
[9:18pm] Kendra: Hi everyone, Kendra Moyer, Arlington
[9:18pm] Bluestreak: Hey
[9:18pm] • Igel hello
[9:19pm] Igel: im not going to post the url to it -- it was more than 15hours ago.
[9:19pm] Igel: it was pretty much not reporting what the title of the url was.
[9:20pm] jokeefe: so we have stuff, equipment, people.  Sat. looks to be the busiest day.
[9:20pm] Igel: and highlighted someone that might run for office (implicit)
[9:20pm] jokeefe: this one lgel - http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article3865071.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2013_09_10
[9:20pm] Igel: ja
[9:21pm] srevilak: Bluestreak and I started a pad for planning: https://pad.riseup.net/p/mappfr
[9:22pm] js0000 joined the chat room.
[9:22pm] jokeefe: hi js0000
[9:22pm] Igel: sup hacker
[9:22pm] js0000: hi
[9:22pm] Igel: jk heh whats up
[9:22pm] Bluestreak: Hello
[9:22pm] js0000: this week, i'll pay attention!
[9:22pm] Bluestreak: Jason and I plan to take two cars.
[9:22pm] Kendra: Is the Freedom Rally going to be both Saturday and Sunday?  I heard the Sunday permit was revoked. 
[9:23pm] Bluestreak: Jason will be on site earlier than me.
[9:23pm] Igel: did you read that link on thetimes.co.uk/ js0000
[9:23pm] GarretK: lol.
[9:23pm] GarretK:
[9:23pm] js0000: Igel: no
[9:23pm] Bluestreak: You missed that bit Kendra
[9:23pm] jokeefe: good, srevilak, I added to the list.  I can bring them if I head out Sat morning, otherwise can drop them off with you.
[9:23pm] Igel: oh yeah GarretK why not park at the mall
[9:23pm] Kendra: Are people just gonna show up anyway?
[9:23pm] Bluestreak: We will be there permit or no anyway. You coming Sunday?
[9:23pm] GarretK: ...park at the mall?
[9:23pm] jokeefe: actually, srevilak, when will you be there?
[9:24pm] srevilak: I'll be arriving a bit before noon
[9:24pm] Bluestreak: Eeep
[9:24pm] Kendra: Probably be there Saturday.  I don't know about Sunday. 
[9:24pm] Igel: people always show up to the pac
[9:24pm] Bluestreak: OK
[9:25pm] Igel: theyve been doing a lot of work there
[9:25pm] Bluestreak: *cries*
[9:25pm] Igel: i think the fountain is getting restored, takes like a decade
[9:25pm] Kendra: and a billion dollars
[9:26pm] Igel: i think theres some photo done of it in transit
[9:26pm] jokeefe: ok, good timing then, srevilak
[9:26pm] Igel: i think it had to gothru some town and .... who cares. where the shit is our skate park menino
[9:26pm] jokeefe: lol
[9:26pm] Igel: north point cambridge // boston leverette circle ...no park..just EF
[9:27pm] Igel: so lame, more than a decade
[9:27pm] Igel: w/c
[9:27pm] Igel: nexterrooo
[9:28pm] Igel: crypto rsa lulz meet.
[9:28pm] Igel: whos coming?
[9:28pm] GarretK: NSA has it all hacked... does it matter?
[9:28pm] GarretK:
[9:28pm] Igel: yes, because these crypto suites used are not cracked.
[9:28pm] jokeefe: I put the line up at https://pad.riseup.net/p/mappfr
[9:28pm] Igel: and are interchangable, and very dynamic beyond the hardware of the machine
[9:28pm] jokeefe: I think I have everyone for Sat., not sure about Sun.
[9:29pm] Igel: meaning a real time clock Intel put it , still does not affact true randomness
[9:29pm] jokeefe: js0000, Kendra, lgel you going to be there during the weekend?
[9:29pm] js0000: i think i can come on sat
[9:30pm] Igel: GarretK:  1min
[9:30pm] js0000: to the common, right?
[9:30pm] GarretK: ?
[9:30pm] GarretK: what?
[9:30pm] jokeefe: yes, on common, js0000
[9:30pm] Kendra: I can be available both days for a bit.  What time do you need people on Sunday?
[9:31pm] jokeefe: noon to early afternoon
[9:31pm] jokeefe: then Bluestreak can come when she feels like it
[9:31pm] Kendra: How about 12-3?
[9:31pm] jokeefe: sounds good
[9:32pm] Kendra: ok
[9:32pm] Bluestreak: *wistfully* that would be nice...
[9:32pm] GarretK: Saturday I can be there for setup and dedicate at least a couple hours early on
[9:33pm] GarretK: sunday kinda depends on permit hearing tomorrow. I'm there no matter what, but if there's hell to raise: i'm raisin it
[9:33pm] jokeefe: Aye!
[9:33pm] jokeefe: so we have good coverage, then
[9:33pm] Igel: nvm
[9:34pm] GarretK: Lucia and Jamie: I will make sure you two know as soon as I know what up with permits
[9:34pm] Bluestreak: THANK YOU!
[9:34pm] jokeefe: thanks!
[9:35pm] Bluestreak: Pete Bouras is FBing me about my diet... wont be out to FR... 
[9:35pm] jokeefe: Pete won't be there?
[9:36pm] Bluestreak: Nah, forgot, made plans
[9:36pm] GarretK: lol. Pete and his food
[9:36pm] Bluestreak: I asked for his advice
[9:36pm] Kendra: wut?
[9:36pm] GarretK: as much GMO as possible, and don't forget to smoke cigarettes... that's what Petey would say
[9:36pm] GarretK:
[9:36pm] Bluestreak:
[9:36pm] jokeefe:
[9:36pm] jokeefe: Havn't heard anything thing about Constitution Day Speakout, September 17, Boston
[9:37pm] jokeefe: Don't forget - International Talk Like a Pirate Day, September 19
[9:37pm] Bluestreak: *Some* ppl reply quickly to my FB PMs
[9:37pm] jokeefe: Australian Pirates are having a pillow fight
[9:37pm] Bluestreak: We will be sure to talk like a pirate to that Kennedy we're meeting
[9:37pm] Bluestreak: JK!
[9:39pm] jokeefe: Boston Software Freedom Day, Sat., Sept. 21st, 9:30am - 5:30pm
[9:39pm] jokeefe: srevilak is speaking at 10am
[9:39pm] js0000: sweet!
[9:39pm] Bluestreak: (Also on 19th Jason and I are going) http://www.princelobel.com/news-events-416.html
[9:39pm] Bluestreak: I tried to pull it up in a more timely manner, oops
[9:40pm] jokeefe: cool
[9:40pm] jokeefe: Boston Software Freedom Day - we have a table from noon-~6pm.  Who will be able to table?
[9:41pm] GarretK: is that when we give out pirated software?
[9:41pm] Bluestreak: Hello? Please help me!
[9:41pm] Kendra: Blue streak what time is the event at Prince lobel?
[9:41pm] Bluestreak: No. We hand out fliers
[9:41pm] Bluestreak: click the link!
[9:41pm] jokeefe: open source - but we could, though considering the folks there, they already have it
[9:41pm] Bluestreak: I mean...
[9:42pm] Bluestreak: Geez hold on Kendra
[9:42pm] Bluestreak: It's free but you have to register: 5:30 pm https://events.r20.constantcontact.com/register/eventReg?llr=ejkizybab&oeidk=a07e7nr3v6oddc1137e&oseq=a0281rgen753n0
[9:43pm] Bluestreak: Until 7
[9:43pm] jokeefe: who can help flier at The Wired City
[9:43pm] jokeefe: ?
[9:43pm] Kendra: I can table for a few hours for software freedom day, early on about 12-3.
[9:43pm] Bluestreak: YAY!
[9:43pm] Bluestreak: TYVM Kendra
[9:44pm] Bluestreak: The Kennedy book signing is not really a fliering thing
[9:44pm] Bluestreak: Cards are more appropriate
[9:44pm] jokeefe: ah, misunderstood
[9:44pm] Kendra: Sounds like a book signing, so cards.
[9:44pm] Bluestreak: Though, I will *have* some just in case
[9:44pm] Bluestreak: With nibbles and wine
[9:44pm] Bluestreak: Posh
[9:45pm] Bluestreak: Wow the sky just opened up here!
[9:45pm] js0000: i made some progress with voter reg software
[9:45pm] Bluestreak: Damn!
[9:45pm] js0000: but on my machine
[9:45pm] js0000: not pirate machine
[9:46pm] js0000: maybe it will actually be running by next week
[9:46pm] jokeefe: thanks Kendra
[9:46pm] jokeefe: thanks js0000
[9:46pm] GarretK: (brb)
[9:47pm] jokeefe: I should be at Boston Software Freedom Day 3pm+
[9:48pm] Bluestreak: Remind me in what capacity?
[9:48pm] Bluestreak: ...
[9:48pm] jokeefe: tabling
[9:48pm] Bluestreak: Yay.
[9:49pm] Bluestreak: Many hands...
[9:49pm] jokeefe: need fliers for cryptoparty
[9:49pm] jokeefe: ask katem
[9:49pm] jokeefe: asked katem
[9:50pm] jokeefe: - Digital Media Conference, Cambridge, Oct. 25-27
[9:50pm] jokeefe: What form should the crypto party take?
[9:50pm] Bluestreak: Shidash might be back for that!
[9:51pm] srevilak: PGP can always be a fallback.
[9:51pm] Bluestreak: Erp... I would like people to work on Trans. Toolkit
[9:51pm] jokeefe: cool
[9:51pm] Bluestreak: Derp derp...
[9:51pm] srevilak: That said, whatever gets people hands on exposure is ok by me
[9:51pm] srevilak: I'll touch base with Shidash
[9:52pm] jokeefe: great
[9:52pm] jokeefe: figure most people there don't know how to encrypt their email
[9:52pm] Bluestreak: I *still* don't
[9:53pm] jokeefe: I think that and vpns would be good topics
[9:53pm] Bluestreak: Maybe I could get a follow up to the last crypto party on the 21st?
[9:53pm] Bluestreak: I will have my Mac in any event
[9:53pm] srevilak: Bluestreak: happy to help you finish the course 
[9:54pm] Bluestreak: TY!
[9:54pm] jokeefe: apple mail is a pain
[9:54pm] Bluestreak: Any assistance you can offer is appreciated
[9:55pm] jokeefe: will do what I can
[9:55pm] ageis: ohai
[9:56pm] Bluestreak: LOL
[9:56pm] jokeefe: hi ageis
[9:56pm] jokeefe: got a new article about BB that we can post?
[9:57pm] Bluestreak: BB is everywhere this week.
[9:57pm] Bluestreak: Just posted from Esquire.
[9:57pm] Kendra: Big Brother?
[9:57pm] Igel: exsqueezme?
[9:57pm] Bluestreak: Barret Brown
[9:57pm] Igel: that dude threatened fbi?
[9:57pm] Bluestreak: Not really
[9:58pm] Igel: yeah that works out in his favor -- regardless if its true or not
[9:58pm] Bluestreak: They knew how to push his buttons
[9:58pm] Bluestreak: they threatened his mother
[9:58pm] Igel: or trial ever or not likley.
[9:58pm] Igel: the fuck, i dont know
[9:58pm] Bluestreak: No, I thought the same thing
[9:58pm] Igel: oh i dont think this is the same thing
[9:58pm] js0000: he
[9:58pm] • Igel bad with names
[9:58pm] Bluestreak: OH LOSER THREATENED AN AGENT!... No...
[9:59pm] Bluestreak: You have to READ about what happened to get it.
[9:59pm] Igel: feds have been kicking in the doors of kids all over the internet.. nothing new here.
[9:59pm] Igel: anyways,
[9:59pm] Igel: is this the same guy we are talking aobut?
[9:59pm] Bluestreak: Who kows what any of us might do if the Feds got up one of our asses.
[9:59pm] Bluestreak: Yes.
[9:59pm] Kendra: What about this one http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/09/manning-friend-database-stalked/
[9:59pm] Bluestreak: I suspect that *I* would not fare well.
[10:00pm] • Igel not running coca  heh.
[10:00pm] Igel: heh eh heh.. whats this thats obv too.
[10:00pm] Bluestreak: Another activist was pushing my buttons in July... made a fool of myself. Psyching ppl out works, y'all
[10:01pm] Bluestreak: Lesson learned
[10:01pm] jokeefe: was thinking about one aegis wrote
[10:01pm] Kendra: The best policy is not to talk to people who you do not/cannot trust. 
[10:01pm] jokeefe: aegis that is
[10:01pm] GarretK: best policy is trust no one
[10:01pm] Bluestreak: I had to learn it the hard way.
[10:02pm] Bluestreak: Gotta trust
[10:02pm] Bluestreak: Can't get anything done without trust
[10:02pm] • Igel pinged out
[10:03pm] Bluestreak: trust and hope for the best.
[10:03pm] Kendra: That is a longer conversation aboutthe concept of cadre.
[10:03pm] jokeefe: we are at an hour.
[10:04pm] Bluestreak: I'm sorry but we're out of time so we will have to stop you there.
[10:04pm] js0000 left the chat room. (Quit: leaving)
[10:04pm] Bluestreak: LOL Bye John
[10:04pm] jokeefe: adjourn?
[10:05pm] Kendra: 2nd
[10:05pm] jokeefe: all in favor?
[10:05pm] Bluestreak: Aye
[10:06pm] Igel: aye
[10:06pm] GarretK: nay?
[10:06pm] Igel: yaaaaaaaaar
[10:06pm] GarretK: j/k
[10:06pm] GarretK: aye!
[10:06pm] Igel: GarretK:
[10:06pm] Igel: stick around
[10:06pm] GarretK: don't ping me.
[10:06pm] GarretK:
[10:06pm] jokeefe: aye
[10:07pm] Igel: where did your buddy js00000 go?
[10:07pm] Bluestreak: LMAO
[10:07pm] jokeefe: to sleep I hope
[10:07pm] Igel: he said somthing about going sat
[10:07pm] Bluestreak: sigh.
[10:07pm] Igel: why dont you park at the mall instead of takin a train?
[10:07pm] jokeefe: any opposed?
[10:07pm] Bluestreak: Goodnight Captain
[10:08pm] jokeefe: good night!
[10:08pm] Kendra: aye, night all. 
[10:08pm] Kendra left the chat room. (Quit: Web client closed)
[10:08pm] Bluestreak: Ooh, got retweeted by Media Monarchy! I love that guy.
[10:09pm] Bluestreak left the chat room. (Quit: Web client closed)
[10:10pm] srevilak: 'night all
[10:10pm] jokeefe: night