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* noe (Noelani Kamelamela, Somerville, MA) | * noe (Noelani Kamelamela, Somerville, MA) | ||
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* Bluestreak (Lucia Fiero | * Bluestreak (Lucia Fiero) | ||
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Discussion of Pirate Picinic this Sunday | Discussion of Pirate Picinic this Sunday | ||
Parts and Crafts cryptoparties will move to the 4th Wed. of each month. Will try to publicize better. | Parts and Crafts cryptoparties will move to the 4th Wed. of each month. Will try to publicize better. Next one will likely be held at Parts & Crafts on Aug. 26 (Wednesday) from 6-9pm | ||
Bluestream will try to write something on Massachusetts GMO labeling bill (H.3242) | Bluestream will try to write something on Massachusetts GMO labeling bill (H.3242). Should be submitted 5 days before hearing. Around Sept 16th. | ||
Draft article about Freedom Rally. https://piratenpad.de/p/p8YhioqeNosh | |||
== Minutes == | == Minutes == | ||
<nowiki> | <nowiki> | ||
20:59 < igel> lo | |||
21:00 < noe> howdy! *waves* | |||
21:01 * srevilak waves back | |||
21:03 < Bluestreak> hey | |||
21:04 < noe> ahoy! | |||
21:04 < noe> I believe the Captain is out of commission tonight. I think | |||
we're it! IDs: Noelani Kamelamela, Somerville, MA | |||
21:05 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA | |||
21:05 < noe> (current agenda: | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/July_27th,_2015_IRC_Meeting) | |||
21:06 < igel> William Fleurant, Arlington MA | |||
21:07 < Bluestreak> Lucia Fiero | |||
21:08 < igel> i cant make the piraten picnic :/ | |||
21:08 < Bluestreak> me neither | |||
21:08 < noe> awww . . . | |||
21:09 < Bluestreak> :-( | |||
21:09 < noe> I know I'm going, but I don't know who else is. | |||
21:09 < noe> (I should probably log into Civi) | |||
21:09 < noe> srevilak: are you going to the piraten picnic? | |||
21:10 < srevilak> yes, planning to go | |||
21:11 < srevilak> noe: according to | |||
https://piratenpad.de/p/2015MAPPPicnic, should be ~ 8 people going | |||
21:12 < Bluestreak> My home assitant wants o go | |||
21:12 < Bluestreak> she would bring friends | |||
21:12 < Bluestreak> she is a big Pirate Fan. | |||
21:12 < noe> ooh! we welcome new people. :) | |||
21:12 < srevilak> your home assistant is welcome to come, and welcome | |||
to bring friends | |||
21:12 < srevilak> the more the merrier :) | |||
21:12 < Bluestreak> She spent a year in India | |||
21:12 < Bluestreak> teaching untouchable kids | |||
21:13 < noe> Bluestreak: feel free to send her the Pirate Pad link. | |||
21:13 < Bluestreak> I think you will like her | |||
21:13 < Bluestreak> I have. | |||
21:13 < Bluestreak> She is here now hanging with AJ who won’t go | |||
without me :-( | |||
21:13 < Bluestreak> I was hoping he would go without | |||
21:14 < Bluestreak> Jason and me but he won't | |||
21:16 < Bluestreak> Are we starting? | |||
21:16 < noe> does he lack a ride? | |||
21:16 < noe> Yes, I think we shifted to talking about the Picnic early, | |||
that's all. | |||
21:16 < Bluestreak> I asked him if Jamie was willing to be the one to | |||
look after him would he go but he wants me and his Dad too mcuh | |||
21:17 < Bluestreak> I made commemorative buttons | |||
21:17 < noe> I can understand that. | |||
21:17 < Bluestreak> Megan will make sure they get there | |||
21:17 < noe> Sweet! | |||
21:18 < noe> Back to the agenda: paperwaves has been hosting monthly | |||
Cryptoparties at Parts & Crafts, had a recent one last week. | |||
21:19 < srevilak> how did it go (beyond what's in agenda) | |||
21:19 < noe> The attendants (about 6) are thinking of making them monthly, | |||
every 4th Wednesday. | |||
21:19 < Bluestreak> Good idea | |||
21:19 < igel> yeaa you got it | |||
21:19 < Bluestreak> Need more promotion | |||
21:19 < noe> I think because its not just paperwaves making a commitment, | |||
they will actually happen. | |||
21:20 < Bluestreak> Promotion! | |||
21:20 < Bluestreak> 1/4 page flyers | |||
21:20 < Bluestreak> Soc Med. | |||
21:20 < noe> I think it'll be easier to promote since it'll be monthly | |||
(just one flier with "every 4th Wednesday") | |||
21:21 < Bluestreak> Flyerss wont have to change | |||
21:21 < noe> And its easy to queue up on HootSuite (probably set it for | |||
first of the month and the week of) | |||
21:22 < noe> Beyond what's in the agenda, I think paperwaves teaches | |||
more hands-on, so less from PowerPoint or from a document. | |||
21:22 < Bluestreak> YOu knoe how to work that? | |||
21:22 < Bluestreak> I never use it | |||
21:23 < noe> Technically, jokeefe has been doing it, so has the passwds | |||
and such. He could pass them off to paperwaves, which I think would | |||
suffice. | |||
21:24 < srevilak> I try to use hootsuite when I can. But Not much | |||
recently, I'm afraid | |||
21:24 < Bluestreak> I want to mention that no everyone IDed | |||
21:24 < Bluestreak> t | |||
21:24 < noe> But I shouldn't speculate about people not in the IRC window. | |||
21:25 < Kendra> Kendra Moyer, Boston, MA | |||
21:25 < noe> ahoy! | |||
21:25 < igel> hey wassap | |||
21:25 < Kendra> hi | |||
21:25 < Bluestreak> hi | |||
21:26 < noe> we're nearly halfway through, and I think this is the most | |||
we'll get tonight. we can probably move on to the decision in the agenda | |||
here: https://masspirates.org/wiki/July_27th,_2015_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:26 < noe> There is a Public Hearing on Massachusetts GMO labeling bill | |||
(H.3242) on Sep. 22. Anyone willing to write a statement for this bill? | |||
21:26 < Bluestreak> I forget… are we signed up for Freedom Rally? | |||
21:27 < srevilak> Bluestreak: yes, we're signed up | |||
21:27 < noe> (I am looking up the due date for that statement right now) | |||
21:27 < Bluestreak> ty | |||
21:27 < Bluestreak> I will give it a go, the writing. | |||
21:28 < srevilak> Bluestreak: thank you | |||
21:29 < noe> We'd want that written statement by 5 days prior to the | |||
hearing, so Sep. 16 or 17 (Thursday or Friday) | |||
21:29 < noe> Bluestreak: thanks! | |||
21:31 < noe> We talked about the picnic and sort of about the Cryptoparty: | |||
the August Cryptoparty in Somerville will likely be held at Parts & | |||
Crafts on Aug. 26 (Wednesday) from 6-9pm. | |||
21:32 < noe> Contact paperwaves (Halley or H) if you're interested in | |||
the Cryptoparty or can attend. Feel free to spread the word to friends | |||
and potential interested parties. | |||
21:32 < srevilak> hi BostonEnginerd | |||
21:33 < noe> ahoy! | |||
21:33 < BostonEnginerd> Hey Srevilak! Good to see you on the Internets! | |||
21:33 < srevilak> likewise! | |||
21:33 < srevilak> agenda is | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/July_27th,_2015_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:34 < igel> was just mentioning cryptoparty Aug. 26 @ Parts | |||
21:34 < BostonEnginerd> Excellent! I'll add it to the calendar. | |||
21:35 < noe> Does anyone know if we're Hackathon-ing or Cryptoparty-ing | |||
in August in Worcester? I have not been privy to that information. | |||
21:36 < Bluestreak> James said something about needing to finish? | |||
21:36 < srevilak> I've been putting a lot of time into the MAAPL project. | |||
I suspect we'll need another work day, but it may be a smaller one | |||
21:36 < Bluestreak> As if the MMAP needed another hackathon | |||
21:37 < Bluestreak> MAAPL sorry | |||
21:37 < noe> It felt good working on the MAAPL project (spinning triangle | |||
of doom!) with other likeminded folks. | |||
21:37 < Bluestreak> typing one handed | |||
21:37 < srevilak> The challenge is trying to make a well-behaved 300 | |||
question intake form for anti-foreclosure work | |||
21:38 < srevilak> I've got a CiviCRM recipie that works @ that scale. | |||
Main question @ moment is whether we break up the form | |||
21:38 < Kendra> It might make sense to push something like that back to | |||
early September, August will fly by | |||
21:38 < noe> If we break up the form, is it easier to group | |||
questions/answers? | |||
21:39 < Kendra> Part two, unless they are talking early August. | |||
21:39 < srevilak> noe: it's not so much the grouping as the length | |||
21:39 < noe> Might be worth putting more thought work into it, and then | |||
making a final push once some decisions have been made. | |||
21:39 < Kendra> Has anyone suggested a date to complete the form? | |||
21:39 < srevilak> Kendra: they were hoping for sometime in Aug | |||
21:39 < igel> is it all pdf? | |||
21:40 < srevilak> igel: CiviCRM. | |||
21:40 < srevilak> Here's a mechanical-looking 300-question form | |||
https://crm.srevilak.net/crm/forms/big-intake-form | |||
21:41 < srevilak> IMHO, it's kind of long, but it's also structured in | |||
a way that nothing chokes up | |||
21:41 < Bluestreak> How long did that one page take? | |||
21:41 < noe> srevilak: oh dear god! | |||
21:41 < igel> interesting | |||
21:41 < igel> i mean. | |||
21:42 < noe> srevilak: I understand now. | |||
21:42 < srevilak> One of the interesting things we discovered: putting | |||
all fields in 1 custom fieldset made jquery go apeshit | |||
21:42 < igel> they are notarizing documents after they fabricate them | |||
21:42 < srevilak> so, the lurking question became, is there anything | |||
else that will go apeshit | |||
21:43 < srevilak> igel: the banks, yes, indeed | |||
21:43 < igel> hmm.. | |||
21:43 < srevilak> I'm happy to do what I can to fight back against | |||
that nonsense | |||
21:44 < noe> does the lurking question have an answer? | |||
21:44 < srevilak> noe: so far, nothing else seems to go apeshit | |||
21:44 < srevilak> it's a good answer :) | |||
21:45 < igel> same, i worked at a junk company for 5 years, ive seen | |||
how bad it got over that itme | |||
21:46 < igel> time* | |||
21:46 < Kendra> Once you are losing your home you migh as well put up | |||
a fight | |||
21:46 < noe> whoo! so, I guess we'll just sit tight . . . if we don't | |||
have details by the 17th or 24th of August, we'll shift Worcester | |||
crypto/hacking to September? | |||
21:47 < Kendra> Have we approached Grace about a date in August yet? | |||
21:48 < srevilak> Kendra: no, need work plan before choosing date. | |||
Need to settle on some design things before going ahead with work plan | |||
21:48 < noe> Kendra: good question. I think she had hoped we'd have | |||
finished during the first hackathon. | |||
21:48 < Bluestreak> Kendra ask James | |||
21:49 < Bluestreak> email works | |||
21:49 < noe> I think we'll roll this item to the next meeting agenda | |||
and talk about it next week. | |||
21:50 < Bluestreak> 10 minute mark | |||
21:50 < igel> ping me if theres any code/stuff pushed to a repo i can | |||
contrib k | |||
21:50 < srevilak> igel: will do, thx | |||
21:51 < noe> Last solid item: Freedom Rally. | |||
We are signed up! MAPP volunteer signup is here: | |||
https://masspirates.org/crew/civicrm/event/info?reset=1&id=8 | |||
21:52 < noe> We'd like a blog post about Freedom Rally, if people are | |||
interested in throwing one together. | |||
21:52 < noe> Newer Pirates may not know what the event is, so covering | |||
the basics would be good. | |||
21:52 < Bluestreak> Not sure what to write about that | |||
21:53 < Bluestreak> need staff | |||
21:53 < Bluestreak> yes | |||
21:53 < igel> 'you can do that in boston?' yea, its boston. | |||
21:53 < noe> Part of me wants to make a piratepad and just slap together | |||
posts we've written before. | |||
21:53 < Bluestreak> suuport end of prohibition | |||
21:53 < Bluestreak> please | |||
21:54 < Bluestreak> make a pirate pad and we can write what we want | |||
21:54 < Bluestreak> for a week? | |||
21:54 < noe> okay | |||
21:54 < Bluestreak> then make ablog post | |||
21:54 < Bluestreak> ty | |||
21:54 < BostonEnginerd> (I actually had no idea what Freedom Rally was) | |||
21:54 < Bluestreak> hemp rally | |||
21:54 < igel> hemp fest | |||
21:55 < Bluestreak> biggest event we do | |||
21:55 < srevilak> it's festive | |||
21:55 < Bluestreak> i think | |||
21:55 < Bluestreak> pride and fr | |||
21:55 < Bluestreak> someone needs to come to my house | |||
21:55 < noe> https://piratenpad.de/p/p8YhioqeNosh | |||
21:55 < Bluestreak> to get the stuff | |||
21:56 < Bluestreak> tent n tables | |||
21:56 < BostonEnginerd> thanks! | |||
21:56 < Bluestreak> need set up: Put in post | |||
21:56 < noe> we'll keep this Piratepad open for a week, and I will edit it | |||
(and post it, if I remember my passwds correctly) | |||
21:56 < Bluestreak> f you can’t ping me | |||
21:57 < Bluestreak> I will put it up if I am perky | |||
21:57 < Bluestreak> I don’t know how to do forms | |||
21:57 < Bluestreak> but we usually have a form | |||
21:57 < Bluestreak> Set up: | |||
21:57 < Bluestreak> Breakdown: | |||
21:58 < Bluestreak> tabling | |||
21:58 < Bluestreak> 12-2, 2-4, 4-6 | |||
21:59 < igel> yea there was some registration to do i remmeber | |||
21:59 < igel> was like $100? | |||
21:59 < srevilak> | |||
https://masspirates.org/crew/civicrm/event/register?id=8&reset=1 | |||
22:00 < srevilak> igel: we paid registration earlier in the year | |||
22:00 < Bluestreak> can you add “set up" | |||
22:00 < Bluestreak> and “clean up” srevilak? | |||
22:01 < srevilak> Bluestreak: can work on it | |||
22:01 < Bluestreak> tyvm | |||
22:01 < srevilak> anything else (we're at time) | |||
22:01 < srevilak> ? | |||
22:02 < Bluestreak> have a great cruise | |||
22:02 < Bluestreak> will miss y’all | |||
22:02 < Kendra> nite all, thanks to everyone for all the hard work | |||
22:02 < noe> nite! | |||
22:02 < igel> cheers | |||
22:02 < Bluestreak> motion to split? | |||
22:03 < noe> srevilak: can you update the meeting notes? | |||
22:03 < noe> 2nd | |||
22:03 < igel> aye | |||
22:03 < Bluestreak> skedaddle | |||
22:03 < Bluestreak> depert | |||
22:03 < noe> aye | |||
22:03 < Bluestreak> aye | |||
22:03 < noe> (all in favor?) | |||
22:03 < Bluestreak> lol | |||
22:04 < Bluestreak> nighty night | |||
22:05 < BostonEnginerd> gnite! | |||
22:05 < srevilak> noe: will post notes | |||
22:05 < noe> srevilak: thank you! nite all | |||
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Latest revision as of 23:01, 1 February 2018
Reviews
- Somerville cryptoparty - six people attended. mostly a discussion of what to do with them going forward. decided to schedule them for the fourth Wednesday of each month and publicize them better. Tentative topic for the August meeting is I2P.
Tasks
Putting names to tasks. PiratePad version.
Decisions
There is a Public Hearing on Massachusetts GMO labeling bill (H.3242) on Sep. 22. Anyone willing to write a statement for this bill?
Planning
Event Planning
- Aug 2, Pirate Picnic, Georges Island, Pirate Pad
- Aug 26, 6-9pm, Somerville Cryptoparty
- Other August Event? - Cryptoparty in Worcester or Hackathon (either for Surveillance mapping or MAAPL)
- Sep. 19 & 20, Freedom Rally - Sign up form - have asked for volunteers in email as well, need blog post by July/Aug
- Sep. 22, 1pm, Public Hearing on Massachusetts GMO labeling bill (H.3242), Gardner Auditorium at the Massachusetts State House
- Oct. Cory Doctorow Event - Working with other groups
- Nov. event?
- Dec. event?
Restarting in September: Every Thu., Digital Fourth meeting, 11:20am-1:30pm, Voltage Cafe, Third Street, Cambridge
Participants
- igel (William Fleurant, Arlington MA)
- noe (Noelani Kamelamela, Somerville, MA)
- srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA)
- Bluestreak (Lucia Fiero)
- Kendra (Kendra Moyer, Boston, MA)
- BostonEnginerd
Observers
- Pharyngeal
- zby
- itspara
- Weil_
Summary
Discussion of Pirate Picinic this Sunday
Parts and Crafts cryptoparties will move to the 4th Wed. of each month. Will try to publicize better. Next one will likely be held at Parts & Crafts on Aug. 26 (Wednesday) from 6-9pm
Bluestream will try to write something on Massachusetts GMO labeling bill (H.3242). Should be submitted 5 days before hearing. Around Sept 16th.
Draft article about Freedom Rally. https://piratenpad.de/p/p8YhioqeNosh
Minutes
20:59 < igel> lo 21:00 < noe> howdy! *waves* 21:01 * srevilak waves back 21:03 < Bluestreak> hey 21:04 < noe> ahoy! 21:04 < noe> I believe the Captain is out of commission tonight. I think we're it! IDs: Noelani Kamelamela, Somerville, MA 21:05 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA 21:05 < noe> (current agenda: https://masspirates.org/wiki/July_27th,_2015_IRC_Meeting) 21:06 < igel> William Fleurant, Arlington MA 21:07 < Bluestreak> Lucia Fiero 21:08 < igel> i cant make the piraten picnic :/ 21:08 < Bluestreak> me neither 21:08 < noe> awww . . . 21:09 < Bluestreak> :-( 21:09 < noe> I know I'm going, but I don't know who else is. 21:09 < noe> (I should probably log into Civi) 21:09 < noe> srevilak: are you going to the piraten picnic? 21:10 < srevilak> yes, planning to go 21:11 < srevilak> noe: according to https://piratenpad.de/p/2015MAPPPicnic, should be ~ 8 people going 21:12 < Bluestreak> My home assitant wants o go 21:12 < Bluestreak> she would bring friends 21:12 < Bluestreak> she is a big Pirate Fan. 21:12 < noe> ooh! we welcome new people. :) 21:12 < srevilak> your home assistant is welcome to come, and welcome to bring friends 21:12 < srevilak> the more the merrier :) 21:12 < Bluestreak> She spent a year in India 21:12 < Bluestreak> teaching untouchable kids 21:13 < noe> Bluestreak: feel free to send her the Pirate Pad link. 21:13 < Bluestreak> I think you will like her 21:13 < Bluestreak> I have. 21:13 < Bluestreak> She is here now hanging with AJ who won’t go without me :-( 21:13 < Bluestreak> I was hoping he would go without 21:14 < Bluestreak> Jason and me but he won't 21:16 < Bluestreak> Are we starting? 21:16 < noe> does he lack a ride? 21:16 < noe> Yes, I think we shifted to talking about the Picnic early, that's all. 21:16 < Bluestreak> I asked him if Jamie was willing to be the one to look after him would he go but he wants me and his Dad too mcuh 21:17 < Bluestreak> I made commemorative buttons 21:17 < noe> I can understand that. 21:17 < Bluestreak> Megan will make sure they get there 21:17 < noe> Sweet! 21:18 < noe> Back to the agenda: paperwaves has been hosting monthly Cryptoparties at Parts & Crafts, had a recent one last week. 21:19 < srevilak> how did it go (beyond what's in agenda) 21:19 < noe> The attendants (about 6) are thinking of making them monthly, every 4th Wednesday. 21:19 < Bluestreak> Good idea 21:19 < igel> yeaa you got it 21:19 < Bluestreak> Need more promotion 21:19 < noe> I think because its not just paperwaves making a commitment, they will actually happen. 21:20 < Bluestreak> Promotion! 21:20 < Bluestreak> 1/4 page flyers 21:20 < Bluestreak> Soc Med. 21:20 < noe> I think it'll be easier to promote since it'll be monthly (just one flier with "every 4th Wednesday") 21:21 < Bluestreak> Flyerss wont have to change 21:21 < noe> And its easy to queue up on HootSuite (probably set it for first of the month and the week of) 21:22 < noe> Beyond what's in the agenda, I think paperwaves teaches more hands-on, so less from PowerPoint or from a document. 21:22 < Bluestreak> YOu knoe how to work that? 21:22 < Bluestreak> I never use it 21:23 < noe> Technically, jokeefe has been doing it, so has the passwds and such. He could pass them off to paperwaves, which I think would suffice. 21:24 < srevilak> I try to use hootsuite when I can. But Not much recently, I'm afraid 21:24 < Bluestreak> I want to mention that no everyone IDed 21:24 < Bluestreak> t 21:24 < noe> But I shouldn't speculate about people not in the IRC window. 21:25 < Kendra> Kendra Moyer, Boston, MA 21:25 < noe> ahoy! 21:25 < igel> hey wassap 21:25 < Kendra> hi 21:25 < Bluestreak> hi 21:26 < noe> we're nearly halfway through, and I think this is the most we'll get tonight. we can probably move on to the decision in the agenda here: https://masspirates.org/wiki/July_27th,_2015_IRC_Meeting 21:26 < noe> There is a Public Hearing on Massachusetts GMO labeling bill (H.3242) on Sep. 22. Anyone willing to write a statement for this bill? 21:26 < Bluestreak> I forget… are we signed up for Freedom Rally? 21:27 < srevilak> Bluestreak: yes, we're signed up 21:27 < noe> (I am looking up the due date for that statement right now) 21:27 < Bluestreak> ty 21:27 < Bluestreak> I will give it a go, the writing. 21:28 < srevilak> Bluestreak: thank you 21:29 < noe> We'd want that written statement by 5 days prior to the hearing, so Sep. 16 or 17 (Thursday or Friday) 21:29 < noe> Bluestreak: thanks! 21:31 < noe> We talked about the picnic and sort of about the Cryptoparty: the August Cryptoparty in Somerville will likely be held at Parts & Crafts on Aug. 26 (Wednesday) from 6-9pm. 21:32 < noe> Contact paperwaves (Halley or H) if you're interested in the Cryptoparty or can attend. Feel free to spread the word to friends and potential interested parties. 21:32 < srevilak> hi BostonEnginerd 21:33 < noe> ahoy! 21:33 < BostonEnginerd> Hey Srevilak! Good to see you on the Internets! 21:33 < srevilak> likewise! 21:33 < srevilak> agenda is https://masspirates.org/wiki/July_27th,_2015_IRC_Meeting 21:34 < igel> was just mentioning cryptoparty Aug. 26 @ Parts 21:34 < BostonEnginerd> Excellent! I'll add it to the calendar. 21:35 < noe> Does anyone know if we're Hackathon-ing or Cryptoparty-ing in August in Worcester? I have not been privy to that information. 21:36 < Bluestreak> James said something about needing to finish? 21:36 < srevilak> I've been putting a lot of time into the MAAPL project. I suspect we'll need another work day, but it may be a smaller one 21:36 < Bluestreak> As if the MMAP needed another hackathon 21:37 < Bluestreak> MAAPL sorry 21:37 < noe> It felt good working on the MAAPL project (spinning triangle of doom!) with other likeminded folks. 21:37 < Bluestreak> typing one handed 21:37 < srevilak> The challenge is trying to make a well-behaved 300 question intake form for anti-foreclosure work 21:38 < srevilak> I've got a CiviCRM recipie that works @ that scale. Main question @ moment is whether we break up the form 21:38 < Kendra> It might make sense to push something like that back to early September, August will fly by 21:38 < noe> If we break up the form, is it easier to group questions/answers? 21:39 < Kendra> Part two, unless they are talking early August. 21:39 < srevilak> noe: it's not so much the grouping as the length 21:39 < noe> Might be worth putting more thought work into it, and then making a final push once some decisions have been made. 21:39 < Kendra> Has anyone suggested a date to complete the form? 21:39 < srevilak> Kendra: they were hoping for sometime in Aug 21:39 < igel> is it all pdf? 21:40 < srevilak> igel: CiviCRM. 21:40 < srevilak> Here's a mechanical-looking 300-question form https://crm.srevilak.net/crm/forms/big-intake-form 21:41 < srevilak> IMHO, it's kind of long, but it's also structured in a way that nothing chokes up 21:41 < Bluestreak> How long did that one page take? 21:41 < noe> srevilak: oh dear god! 21:41 < igel> interesting 21:41 < igel> i mean. 21:42 < noe> srevilak: I understand now. 21:42 < srevilak> One of the interesting things we discovered: putting all fields in 1 custom fieldset made jquery go apeshit 21:42 < igel> they are notarizing documents after they fabricate them 21:42 < srevilak> so, the lurking question became, is there anything else that will go apeshit 21:43 < srevilak> igel: the banks, yes, indeed 21:43 < igel> hmm.. 21:43 < srevilak> I'm happy to do what I can to fight back against that nonsense 21:44 < noe> does the lurking question have an answer? 21:44 < srevilak> noe: so far, nothing else seems to go apeshit 21:44 < srevilak> it's a good answer :) 21:45 < igel> same, i worked at a junk company for 5 years, ive seen how bad it got over that itme 21:46 < igel> time* 21:46 < Kendra> Once you are losing your home you migh as well put up a fight 21:46 < noe> whoo! so, I guess we'll just sit tight . . . if we don't have details by the 17th or 24th of August, we'll shift Worcester crypto/hacking to September? 21:47 < Kendra> Have we approached Grace about a date in August yet? 21:48 < srevilak> Kendra: no, need work plan before choosing date. Need to settle on some design things before going ahead with work plan 21:48 < noe> Kendra: good question. I think she had hoped we'd have finished during the first hackathon. 21:48 < Bluestreak> Kendra ask James 21:49 < Bluestreak> email works 21:49 < noe> I think we'll roll this item to the next meeting agenda and talk about it next week. 21:50 < Bluestreak> 10 minute mark 21:50 < igel> ping me if theres any code/stuff pushed to a repo i can contrib k 21:50 < srevilak> igel: will do, thx 21:51 < noe> Last solid item: Freedom Rally. We are signed up! MAPP volunteer signup is here: https://masspirates.org/crew/civicrm/event/info?reset=1&id=8 21:52 < noe> We'd like a blog post about Freedom Rally, if people are interested in throwing one together. 21:52 < noe> Newer Pirates may not know what the event is, so covering the basics would be good. 21:52 < Bluestreak> Not sure what to write about that 21:53 < Bluestreak> need staff 21:53 < Bluestreak> yes 21:53 < igel> 'you can do that in boston?' yea, its boston. 21:53 < noe> Part of me wants to make a piratepad and just slap together posts we've written before. 21:53 < Bluestreak> suuport end of prohibition 21:53 < Bluestreak> please 21:54 < Bluestreak> make a pirate pad and we can write what we want 21:54 < Bluestreak> for a week? 21:54 < noe> okay 21:54 < Bluestreak> then make ablog post 21:54 < Bluestreak> ty 21:54 < BostonEnginerd> (I actually had no idea what Freedom Rally was) 21:54 < Bluestreak> hemp rally 21:54 < igel> hemp fest 21:55 < Bluestreak> biggest event we do 21:55 < srevilak> it's festive 21:55 < Bluestreak> i think 21:55 < Bluestreak> pride and fr 21:55 < Bluestreak> someone needs to come to my house 21:55 < noe> https://piratenpad.de/p/p8YhioqeNosh 21:55 < Bluestreak> to get the stuff 21:56 < Bluestreak> tent n tables 21:56 < BostonEnginerd> thanks! 21:56 < Bluestreak> need set up: Put in post 21:56 < noe> we'll keep this Piratepad open for a week, and I will edit it (and post it, if I remember my passwds correctly) 21:56 < Bluestreak> f you can’t ping me 21:57 < Bluestreak> I will put it up if I am perky 21:57 < Bluestreak> I don’t know how to do forms 21:57 < Bluestreak> but we usually have a form 21:57 < Bluestreak> Set up: 21:57 < Bluestreak> Breakdown: 21:58 < Bluestreak> tabling 21:58 < Bluestreak> 12-2, 2-4, 4-6 21:59 < igel> yea there was some registration to do i remmeber 21:59 < igel> was like $100? 21:59 < srevilak> https://masspirates.org/crew/civicrm/event/register?id=8&reset=1 22:00 < srevilak> igel: we paid registration earlier in the year 22:00 < Bluestreak> can you add “set up" 22:00 < Bluestreak> and “clean up” srevilak? 22:01 < srevilak> Bluestreak: can work on it 22:01 < Bluestreak> tyvm 22:01 < srevilak> anything else (we're at time) 22:01 < srevilak> ? 22:02 < Bluestreak> have a great cruise 22:02 < Bluestreak> will miss y’all 22:02 < Kendra> nite all, thanks to everyone for all the hard work 22:02 < noe> nite! 22:02 < igel> cheers 22:02 < Bluestreak> motion to split? 22:03 < noe> srevilak: can you update the meeting notes? 22:03 < noe> 2nd 22:03 < igel> aye 22:03 < Bluestreak> skedaddle 22:03 < Bluestreak> depert 22:03 < noe> aye 22:03 < Bluestreak> aye 22:03 < noe> (all in favor?) 22:03 < Bluestreak> lol 22:04 < Bluestreak> nighty night 22:05 < BostonEnginerd> gnite! 22:05 < srevilak> noe: will post notes 22:05 < noe> srevilak: thank you! nite all