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Aaron James campaign. 20 days left. Still doing door-to-door outreach. | |||
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21:03 < jokeefe> Agenda - | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/October_18th,_2016_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:03 < papegaai> Title: October 18th, 2016 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki | |||
(at masspirates.org) | |||
21:04 < jokeefe> Anything to add? | |||
21:04 < srevilak> looks good to me | |||
21:05 < jokeefe> Projects | |||
21:05 < jokeefe> Aaron James Campaign | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> 20 days left. Going door to door | |||
21:09 < srevilak> I hope we get a good showing next year | |||
21:10 < srevilak> I hope we get a good showing this year | |||
21:10 < jokeefe> Aye! | |||
21:10 < jokeefe> Sorry. Phone call. Someone from Missouri wanted to know | |||
how to contact the Green Party. No clue how they got my phone number. | |||
21:10 < srevilak> interesting | |||
21:10 < srevilak> Am planning to go door knocking this weekend | |||
21:12 < jokeefe> thanks | |||
21:12 < jokeefe> will be helping this weekend as well | |||
21:13 < jokeefe> posted a number of tasks for the November Run for local | |||
office conference | |||
21:13 < srevilak> looks reasonable. "Develop agenda" is the only think | |||
I can think to add | |||
21:14 < srevilak> I'm meeting with the Democracy center folks at 8am on | |||
Friday, to get a tour/orientation | |||
21:14 < jokeefe> good suggestion | |||
21:15 < jokeefe> would you be able to do any of them? | |||
21:15 < srevilak> I can start with a blog post | |||
21:16 < jokeefe> thanks | |||
21:18 < jokeefe> Bunch of blog posts that need doing | |||
21:18 < jokeefe> And national will live blog the debate | |||
21:18 < srevilak> nice | |||
21:18 < jokeefe> if you want to be amused | |||
21:19 < srevilak> Arlington has a special town meeting on Wed, so I'll | |||
have to read it afterwards | |||
21:19 < srevilak> (11 warrant articles, so I'm assuming a two-day affair) | |||
21:19 < jokeefe> what are they about? | |||
21:20 < srevilak> a few re: school capital investments. | |||
21:20 < srevilak> Adopting pieces of the Municipal modernization act | |||
(at least those that pertain to speed limits) | |||
21:21 < srevilak> A couple of CPA acts | |||
21:21 < jokeefe> take it it is not about building the most expensive | |||
school in Mass. | |||
21:21 < srevilak> There are two school articles. One is for adding | |||
permanent addition to Thompson elementary school | |||
21:22 < srevilak> which is the most crowded elementary school in arlington | |||
21:22 < srevilak> the second is a no-action article. School board had | |||
anticipated the need for modular units at our middle school, | |||
21:22 < srevilak> but ended up withdrawing the request. | |||
21:22 < srevilak> So, the second school issue is simple | |||
21:23 < srevilak> The MMA stuff would allow the town to set 25 MPH | |||
speed limits in portions of town, without having to go through a state | |||
review process | |||
21:23 < srevilak> That one seems pretty straightforward | |||
21:24 < srevilak> And there's also medical marijuana dispensary citing. | |||
21:24 < srevilak> That could go long, or quick | |||
21:24 < srevilak> Basically mass DPH had a position regarding community | |||
buffer zones and a state "default" buffer zone. | |||
21:24 < srevilak> Two months ago, they more or less reversed their | |||
decisions. | |||
21:25 < srevilak> So, instead of state default 500 foot buffer around | |||
dispensaries | |||
21:25 < srevilak> which applies in absense of town regulations | |||
21:25 < srevilak> DPH is more or less requiring every town to have buffer | |||
zones and citing requirements | |||
21:26 < srevilak> The DPH reversal seems like BS on their part | |||
21:27 < jokeefe> perhaps you should suggest that they add buffer zones | |||
for anyone who sells alcohol or tobacco | |||
21:28 < srevilak> Or pharmacies, for that matter | |||
21:28 < srevilak> The purpose of the buffer zone is to prevent "secondary | |||
markets". So, you can't site too close to a school | |||
21:28 < srevilak> because the concern is that a patient might purchase | |||
product from a dispensary, and sell it to (say) high school students | |||
21:29 < srevilak> Which makes no sense. As I understand, black market | |||
product is significantly cheaper than dispensary product | |||
21:29 < srevilak> I more suspect someone in the state house is having | |||
a case of reefer madness | |||
21:29 < jokeefe> right, because there is so many people selling loose | |||
cigaretts and bottles of alcohol near high school students | |||
21:30 < jokeefe> aye | |||
21:31 < jokeefe> do you want to crowd source comments on the warrant | |||
articles? | |||
21:32 < srevilak> Probably not time for that, seeing as the meeting | |||
is tomorrow | |||
21:32 < jokeefe> true | |||
21:32 < srevilak> And at least one will involve drama. Not the | |||
dispensary done | |||
21:32 < srevilak> And at least one will involve drama. Not the | |||
dispensary one | |||
21:32 < jokeefe> oh? | |||
21:33 < srevilak> The drama will be around a zoning law to regulate | |||
quarrying. It was thrown together by a citizens group at the last minute | |||
21:33 < srevilak> And you can really tell it was a rush job | |||
21:33 < srevilak> There will be some amount of "oh, but the children..." | |||
21:34 < jokeefe> quarrying? | |||
21:34 < jokeefe> as in stones? | |||
21:34 < srevilak> Yes. | |||
21:34 < srevilak> Someone on Irving street removed part of a rock ledge, | |||
to make room for a house | |||
21:35 < srevilak> Removing rock ledges is noisy. And it took about | |||
six weeks | |||
21:35 < srevilak> The abutters weren't happy about this, and I can't | |||
blame them | |||
21:35 < srevilak> Arlington has a noise abatement bylaw | |||
21:35 < srevilak> Althoug noisy, the quarrying wasn't loud enough to | |||
trigger it | |||
21:36 < srevilak> So, instead of trying to improve noise laws, the | |||
proponents are turning to zoning | |||
21:36 < jokeefe> lower the noise level? | |||
21:36 < srevilak> Well, they want to require ZBA permitting for | |||
excavation, regardless of whether a building permit has been issued. | |||
21:37 < srevilak> That's outside the scope of what the ZBA can | |||
statutorily do | |||
21:37 < srevilak> And their article is is based on "enjoying the peace | |||
and comfort of one's personal property" | |||
21:37 < srevilak> with no elaboration of what "peace and comfort of | |||
one's personal property is" | |||
21:37 < srevilak> And nothing to differntiate that from our noise laws | |||
21:38 < jokeefe> sigh | |||
21:38 < jokeefe> hopefully cooler heads will prevail | |||
21:39 < jokeefe> anything I can help with on the articles? | |||
21:39 < srevilak> Yes, hopefully we'll eventually get something that's | |||
less ambiguous, and perhaps even enforcable | |||
21:39 < srevilak> Hoping that cooler heads prevail wouldn't hurt | |||
21:39 < jokeefe> :-) | |||
21:40 < jokeefe> anything else to discuss? | |||
21:40 < srevilak> Nothing off hand | |||
21:40 < srevilak> After my meeting with democracy center, I'll send a | |||
follow up | |||
21:40 < jokeefe> thank you | |||
21:41 < jokeefe> shall we adjourn then? | |||
21:41 < srevilak> comet_crowbar is doing work on an event | |||
21:41 < srevilak> | |||
http://www.uhurusolidarity.org/event/usm-boston-a-day-in-solidarity-with-african-people/ | |||
21:41 < papegaai> Title: Upcoming Events | Day in Solidarity with African | |||
People~ Boston! | Uhuru Solidarity Movement (at www.uhurusolidarity.org) | |||
21:41 < srevilak> she's organizing; asked if I could send a few tweets | |||
about it. I agreed to | |||
21:42 < srevilak> And, crossing fingers on the MAAPL side of things | |||
21:42 < jokeefe> good | |||
21:42 < srevilak> That may be a sprint down to the wire | |||
21:42 < jokeefe> thanks for working on MAAPL | |||
21:42 < srevilak> that's all I got | |||
21:44 < jokeefe> motion to adjourn, then | |||
21:45 < srevilak> second | |||
21:45 < srevilak> will post transcript | |||
</nowiki> | |||
Latest revision as of 21:51, 18 October 2016
Review
Projects
Aaron James Campaign
Going door-to-door
Need help:
- calling volunteers
- calling donors
- going door-to-door
November Run for local office conference
The objective is to teach people to run for local office. To Do:
- Blog post
- Email to potential candidates
- Call potential candidates
- Email to all supporters
- Act-ma
- Social media
- Reach out to other political organizations
- Greens
- Libertarians
- Socialists
- Agenda for event
Blog Posts
- Ballot Questions
- Aaron James door-to-door
- BPL Cryptoparty
- Somerville Cryptoparty
- Running for local office conference
National
Will live blog the Prez. debate tomorrow. If you want to comment, email jokeefe.
Upcoming Events
- 10/19, 5pm, Last day to register to vote
- 10/22, BPL Cryptoparty
- 10/26, 6-9pm, Somerville Cryptoparty
- 11/8, Election Day
- 11/12, 12:30-5pm, Running for local office conference, Democracy Center, Harvard Sq., Cambridge
- Dec?, Democracy/IT meeting
- Jan?, How to file a FOIA request by Maya Shaffer
Participants
- jokeefe
- srevilak
Observers
- davidd
- igel
- pagegaai
- Velveeta_Chef
Summary
Aaron James campaign. 20 days left. Still doing door-to-door outreach.
Minutes
21:03 < jokeefe> Agenda -
https://masspirates.org/wiki/October_18th,_2016_IRC_Meeting
21:03 < papegaai> Title: October 18th, 2016 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki
(at masspirates.org)
21:04 < jokeefe> Anything to add?
21:04 < srevilak> looks good to me
21:05 < jokeefe> Projects
21:05 < jokeefe> Aaron James Campaign
21:06 < jokeefe> 20 days left. Going door to door
21:09 < srevilak> I hope we get a good showing next year
21:10 < srevilak> I hope we get a good showing this year
21:10 < jokeefe> Aye!
21:10 < jokeefe> Sorry. Phone call. Someone from Missouri wanted to know
how to contact the Green Party. No clue how they got my phone number.
21:10 < srevilak> interesting
21:10 < srevilak> Am planning to go door knocking this weekend
21:12 < jokeefe> thanks
21:12 < jokeefe> will be helping this weekend as well
21:13 < jokeefe> posted a number of tasks for the November Run for local
office conference
21:13 < srevilak> looks reasonable. "Develop agenda" is the only think
I can think to add
21:14 < srevilak> I'm meeting with the Democracy center folks at 8am on
Friday, to get a tour/orientation
21:14 < jokeefe> good suggestion
21:15 < jokeefe> would you be able to do any of them?
21:15 < srevilak> I can start with a blog post
21:16 < jokeefe> thanks
21:18 < jokeefe> Bunch of blog posts that need doing
21:18 < jokeefe> And national will live blog the debate
21:18 < srevilak> nice
21:18 < jokeefe> if you want to be amused
21:19 < srevilak> Arlington has a special town meeting on Wed, so I'll
have to read it afterwards
21:19 < srevilak> (11 warrant articles, so I'm assuming a two-day affair)
21:19 < jokeefe> what are they about?
21:20 < srevilak> a few re: school capital investments.
21:20 < srevilak> Adopting pieces of the Municipal modernization act
(at least those that pertain to speed limits)
21:21 < srevilak> A couple of CPA acts
21:21 < jokeefe> take it it is not about building the most expensive
school in Mass.
21:21 < srevilak> There are two school articles. One is for adding
permanent addition to Thompson elementary school
21:22 < srevilak> which is the most crowded elementary school in arlington
21:22 < srevilak> the second is a no-action article. School board had
anticipated the need for modular units at our middle school,
21:22 < srevilak> but ended up withdrawing the request.
21:22 < srevilak> So, the second school issue is simple
21:23 < srevilak> The MMA stuff would allow the town to set 25 MPH
speed limits in portions of town, without having to go through a state
review process
21:23 < srevilak> That one seems pretty straightforward
21:24 < srevilak> And there's also medical marijuana dispensary citing.
21:24 < srevilak> That could go long, or quick
21:24 < srevilak> Basically mass DPH had a position regarding community
buffer zones and a state "default" buffer zone.
21:24 < srevilak> Two months ago, they more or less reversed their
decisions.
21:25 < srevilak> So, instead of state default 500 foot buffer around
dispensaries
21:25 < srevilak> which applies in absense of town regulations
21:25 < srevilak> DPH is more or less requiring every town to have buffer
zones and citing requirements
21:26 < srevilak> The DPH reversal seems like BS on their part
21:27 < jokeefe> perhaps you should suggest that they add buffer zones
for anyone who sells alcohol or tobacco
21:28 < srevilak> Or pharmacies, for that matter
21:28 < srevilak> The purpose of the buffer zone is to prevent "secondary
markets". So, you can't site too close to a school
21:28 < srevilak> because the concern is that a patient might purchase
product from a dispensary, and sell it to (say) high school students
21:29 < srevilak> Which makes no sense. As I understand, black market
product is significantly cheaper than dispensary product
21:29 < srevilak> I more suspect someone in the state house is having
a case of reefer madness
21:29 < jokeefe> right, because there is so many people selling loose
cigaretts and bottles of alcohol near high school students
21:30 < jokeefe> aye
21:31 < jokeefe> do you want to crowd source comments on the warrant
articles?
21:32 < srevilak> Probably not time for that, seeing as the meeting
is tomorrow
21:32 < jokeefe> true
21:32 < srevilak> And at least one will involve drama. Not the
dispensary done
21:32 < srevilak> And at least one will involve drama. Not the
dispensary one
21:32 < jokeefe> oh?
21:33 < srevilak> The drama will be around a zoning law to regulate
quarrying. It was thrown together by a citizens group at the last minute
21:33 < srevilak> And you can really tell it was a rush job
21:33 < srevilak> There will be some amount of "oh, but the children..."
21:34 < jokeefe> quarrying?
21:34 < jokeefe> as in stones?
21:34 < srevilak> Yes.
21:34 < srevilak> Someone on Irving street removed part of a rock ledge,
to make room for a house
21:35 < srevilak> Removing rock ledges is noisy. And it took about
six weeks
21:35 < srevilak> The abutters weren't happy about this, and I can't
blame them
21:35 < srevilak> Arlington has a noise abatement bylaw
21:35 < srevilak> Althoug noisy, the quarrying wasn't loud enough to
trigger it
21:36 < srevilak> So, instead of trying to improve noise laws, the
proponents are turning to zoning
21:36 < jokeefe> lower the noise level?
21:36 < srevilak> Well, they want to require ZBA permitting for
excavation, regardless of whether a building permit has been issued.
21:37 < srevilak> That's outside the scope of what the ZBA can
statutorily do
21:37 < srevilak> And their article is is based on "enjoying the peace
and comfort of one's personal property"
21:37 < srevilak> with no elaboration of what "peace and comfort of
one's personal property is"
21:37 < srevilak> And nothing to differntiate that from our noise laws
21:38 < jokeefe> sigh
21:38 < jokeefe> hopefully cooler heads will prevail
21:39 < jokeefe> anything I can help with on the articles?
21:39 < srevilak> Yes, hopefully we'll eventually get something that's
less ambiguous, and perhaps even enforcable
21:39 < srevilak> Hoping that cooler heads prevail wouldn't hurt
21:39 < jokeefe> :-)
21:40 < jokeefe> anything else to discuss?
21:40 < srevilak> Nothing off hand
21:40 < srevilak> After my meeting with democracy center, I'll send a
follow up
21:40 < jokeefe> thank you
21:41 < jokeefe> shall we adjourn then?
21:41 < srevilak> comet_crowbar is doing work on an event
21:41 < srevilak>
http://www.uhurusolidarity.org/event/usm-boston-a-day-in-solidarity-with-african-people/
21:41 < papegaai> Title: Upcoming Events | Day in Solidarity with African
People~ Boston! | Uhuru Solidarity Movement (at www.uhurusolidarity.org)
21:41 < srevilak> she's organizing; asked if I could send a few tweets
about it. I agreed to
21:42 < srevilak> And, crossing fingers on the MAAPL side of things
21:42 < jokeefe> good
21:42 < srevilak> That may be a sprint down to the wire
21:42 < jokeefe> thanks for working on MAAPL
21:42 < srevilak> that's all I got
21:44 < jokeefe> motion to adjourn, then
21:45 < srevilak> second
21:45 < srevilak> will post transcript