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Agenda

1. H.R. 3523: Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act of 2011

2. May 12th Film Fest Schedule

3. Election of new 1st Officer - Lauren Pespisa is interested

4. Upcoming Events

5. Public policy questions to put on the Nov. 2012 ballot?

6. Anything else others want to bring up.

Quick Notes / Summaries Re Proposed Bills to be Discussed:

1. H.R. 3523: Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act of 2011 

Mass. Pirate Party statement on CISPA (H.R.3523) - DRAFT

The Massachusetts Pirate Party opposes the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) - H.R.3523 as a violation of our fundamental rights to privacy and freedom of speech.

CISPA is would allow federal and state governments to request detailed records of what we send over the Internet from telecommunications companies.   Since the bill is intended for:

    *  "the protection of a system or network from ... theft or misappropriation of private or government information, intellectual property"

we believe that CISPA would make it possible for telecommunications companies to actively monitor private communications over their networks in order to detect and censor transfers 
of copyrighted content.    Telecommunications companies would not be required to anonymize the information they gather and so the personal details of users would be handed over 
to governments to use as they wish.

Additionally, state and federal governments would be allowed to share such personal information with private companies.  Because such data would be used to protect against 
"cybersecurity" threats, should those governments or companies misuse this information, they and their employees would be protected from being sued.

CISPA would preempt state law and prevent states from imposing privacy protections on the data gathered or limiting what data can be gathered.

While this system is voluntary, since the introduction of the PATRIOT Act we have seen the increasing collusion between telecommunications companies and the federal government 
to spy on people.  Giving such broad powers to the government and the corporations helping them will undermine our rights to privacy and freedom of speech.

CISPA is so broad it would give the government and corporations access to what we read, watch or say on the Internet, and would destroy what little remaining privacy we have on the Internet.

We urge our members and supporters to contact their Congress members and Senators and urge them to oppose CISPA and other bills like it.

2. May 12th Film Fest

Link to page asking for suggestions: http://piratenpad.de/p/masspiratesfilmfest

3. Election of new 1st Officer

4. Upcoming events

  • Get JP on the ballot
  • April 28th - Extravaganja, Amherst
  • May 5th - Wake Up The Earth, JP
  • May 12th: Film Festival, see below
  • June: Boston Pride

5. Public policy questions to put on the Nov. 2012 ballot? - Probably will be deferred

Attending

  • bsod - http://activepolitic.com:82/
  • jokeefe - James O'Keefe, Somerville
  • SplendidSpoon - Lauren Pespisa, Boxboro/Cambridge
  • erixoltan - Erik Zoltan, Framingham
  • K`Tetch - Andrew Norton, Georgia Pirate Party
  • passstab - kbenjamin sauerhaft coplon ,chester PA

Summary

1. H.R. 3523: Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act of 2011

Approved the following statement: 

Mass. Pirate Party statement on CISPA (H.R.3523)

The Massachusetts Pirate Party opposes the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) - H.R.3523 as a violation of our fundamental rights to privacy and freedom of speech.

CISPA is would allow federal and state governments to request detailed records of what we send over the Internet from telecommunications companies.   Since the bill is intended for:

    *  "the protection of a system or network from ... theft or misappropriation of private or government information, intellectual property"

we believe that CISPA would make it possible for telecommunications companies to actively monitor private communications over their networks in order to detect and censor transfers 
of copyrighted content.    Telecommunications companies would not be required to anonymize the information they gather and so the personal details of users would be handed over 
to governments to use as they wish.

Additionally, state and federal governments would be allowed to share such personal information with private companies.  Because such data would be used to protect against 
"cybersecurity" threats, should those governments or companies misuse this information, they and their employees would be protected from being sued.

CISPA would preempt state law and prevent states from imposing privacy protections on the data gathered or limiting what data can be gathered.

While this system is voluntary, since the introduction of the PATRIOT Act we have seen the increasing collusion between telecommunications companies and the federal government 
to spy on people.  Giving such broad powers to the government and the corporations helping them will undermine our rights to privacy and freedom of speech.

CISPA is so broad it would give the government and corporations access to what we read, watch or say on the Internet, and would destroy what little remaining privacy we have on the Internet.

We urge our members and supporters to contact their Congress members and Senators and urge them to oppose CISPA and other bills like it.

2. Film Fest

Decide schedule by Wednesday, final approval by Friday, then start getting the word out.

3. Election of new 1st Officer

Lauren Pespisa elected 1st Officer

4. Upcoming events

  • May 5th - Wake Up The Earth - Lauren & Lucia can be there
  • June 9th - Boston Pride

5. Public policy questions to put on the Nov. 2012 ballot?

Meeting Minutes

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[12:00] <Zacqary> Heya there. [12:00] <Zacqary> I've been told you run a mean meeting. Mind if I observe? [12:02] <jokeefe> not at all [12:04] <passstab> how does jp stand on other issues? [12:05] <jokeefe> best to ask that of him yourself. jpforhouse@gmail.com [12:05] <jokeefe> I know he supports our core issues. [12:07] <jokeefe> sorry for the delay, just rounding up folks [12:08] <erixoltan> hello [12:08] <jokeefe> hi [12:09] == kate_m [ad4c0f56@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.76.15.86] has joined #masspirates [12:09] <kate_m> what's up pirates? [12:09] <jokeefe> hi, kate_m! [12:09] <jokeefe> agenda at http://masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=April_17th,_2012_IRC_Meeting [12:10] <jokeefe> I'll start with id, give as much as you want (don't forget you can register as a pirate voters, if you haven't) [12:10] <jokeefe> James O'Keefe, Somerville [12:10] <erixoltan> Erik Zoltan / Framingham [12:13] <jokeefe> Item 1. H.R. 3523: Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act of 2011 [12:13] == SplendidSpoon [~lpespisa@38.111.20.226] has joined #masspirates [12:13] <jokeefe> text for CISPA statement at http://piratenpad.de/p/masscispastatement [12:13] <SplendidSpoon> Sorry I'm late [12:13] <SplendidSpoon> Lauren Pespisa, Boxboro/Cambridge [12:13] <jokeefe> also at http://masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=April_17th,_2012_IRC_Meeting [12:14] == creynolds24 [4c1c626f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.28.98.111] has joined #masspirates [12:14] <jokeefe> hi SplendidSpoon! [12:14] <jokeefe> hi creynolds24 [12:14] <creynolds24> hey, just dropping in for a quick moment [12:14] <SplendidSpoon> Just finished watching RT streaming Assanges new interview show "The World Tomorrow". It's no 60 minutes but it was interesting enough. [12:14] <jokeefe> welcome as always [12:14] <creynolds24> nice :0 [12:14] <creynolds24> :)*\ [12:14] <jokeefe> is it free to distribute? [12:14] <creynolds24> -\ wow lol [12:15] <jokeefe> agenda at http://masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=April_17th,_2012_IRC_Meeting [12:15] <SplendidSpoon> No unfortunately [12:15] <creynolds24> anyways there's something I want to tell all of you, when you're ready. I don't want to interrupt here [12:15] <SplendidSpoon> It's not even free on youtube [12:15] <SplendidSpoon> But it's streaming every few hours on RT streaming [12:15] <SplendidSpoon> all day today [12:15] <jokeefe> ok, creynolds24, just want to finish the CISPA statement [12:16] <creynolds24> no problem :) [12:16] <jokeefe> does the CISPA statement look good? CISPA statement at http://piratenpad.de/p/masscispastatement [12:16] <creynolds24> i'm on the web client right now, so u may lose me several times lol [12:16] <jokeefe> k [12:17] <jokeefe> folks pondering? [12:17] <erixoltan> I like the statement. [12:17] <SplendidSpoon> Reading now [12:20] <SplendidSpoon> I like it [12:20] <SplendidSpoon> Nice and straightforward, highlights our problems with it [12:21] <jokeefe> thank you [12:21] <jokeefe> any other comments? should telecoms be ISPs? [12:21] <SplendidSpoon> I think either way doesn't matter [12:21] <jokeefe> they are bluring [12:21] <SplendidSpoon> I mean, usually it's described as ISPs in these things [12:21] <SplendidSpoon> But yea [12:24] <jokeefe> going once [12:26] <SplendidSpoon> Seems fine [12:26] <jokeefe> ok, then, passed [12:26] <jokeefe> moving on [12:26] == aGrizzly [~Grizzly@unaffiliated/agrizzly] has joined #masspirates [12:26] <SplendidSpoon> w00t [12:26] <jokeefe> hey aGrizzly! [12:27] <aGrizzly> Hah! [12:27] <aGrizzly> I made it! [12:27] <jokeefe> chris is your thing quick? [12:27] <jokeefe> I know it is early for you aGrizzly [12:27] <jokeefe> glad you could make it [12:28] <aGrizzly> I was suprised your meetings were moved to noon on a Tuesday. [12:28] == aGrizzly has changed nick to Brady [12:28] <Brady> Sorry to interrupt your meeting [12:28] <jokeefe> seemed to be the best time for folks [12:28] <jokeefe> creynolds24 you wanted to bring something up and were pressed for time? [12:29] <jokeefe> erixoltan, how goes the schedule for the film fest? [12:29] <creynolds24> yes sry, was sending a quick email [12:30] <jokeefe> k [12:31] <creynolds24> I wanted to let you all know that, at the end of this semester (somewhere around May 6th) I will be leaving this party in order to help found the maine pirate party [12:31] <creynolds24> I can however finish the equality policy as my last duty, which I can have done by the June 1st deadline [12:32] <jokeefe> that would be good. you moving to Maine? [12:32] <creynolds24> realistically I just don't have to time to work with two different parties and work and go to school [12:32] <jokeefe> the more parties the merrier [12:32] <creynolds24> no, but I've yet to see any real interest in forming a party here in NH so I figured I'd help out with the effort in Maine [12:33] <creynolds24> i figure the more parties there are in surrounding states, the more likely more support will drum up for one here [12:33] <creynolds24> not too mention, it's good for the movement as a whole [12:33] <jokeefe> sounds great! good luck. ping us if you want some help. you are always welcome here [12:33] <jokeefe> Item 2. May 12th Film Fest Schedule [12:33] <creynolds24> okay thanks Jaime :) [12:33] <creynolds24> but like I said I will still write up that policy as promised :) [12:34] <jokeefe> thank you! [12:34] <creynolds24> Good luck to all of you in your ventures~ [12:34] <creynolds24> and keep in touch [12:34] <jokeefe> aye and to you as well! [12:34] <creynolds24> thanks! AYE1 [12:34] <creynolds24> !* [12:34] == creynolds24 [4c1c626f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.28.98.111] has left #masspirates [] [12:35] <erixoltan> I don't have anything new on the film festival - I was pulled into the IT committee of the US Pirate Party and that has been taking up all my time. [12:36] <jokeefe> hmmm... we are three weeks away [12:38] <Brady> erixoltan - we don't want it to hamper your state party events, though we greatly appreciate having a MAPP rep on the committee. [12:39] <erixoltan> What we really need on the film festival is input from more people on which films they would like to see. I don't have a good sense of what the sentiment is. [12:40] <jokeefe> The ted talks looked good, some of the old silents were good. haven't had time to view more [12:40] <erixoltan> http://piratenpad.de/p/masspiratesfilmfest [12:40] <jokeefe> thanks [12:41] == kittiekorn [~AndChat@217.sub-174-254-197.myvzw.com] has joined #masspirates [12:41] <jokeefe> my concern is that even if we decide what will be on now, we won't have time to get the word out for it to be successful. [12:41] <jokeefe> now without out a lot of concerted effort [12:41] <jokeefe> hi kittiekorn [12:41] <erixoltan> In a previous meeting, I thought it had been rescheduled for June? [12:41] <jokeefe> ah [12:41] <kittiekorn> Hey jokeefe [12:42] == kittiekorn has changed nick to liz_kusanagi [12:42] <jokeefe> I thought we kept it to May 12th. [12:42] <jokeefe> when we didn't need to move it. [12:42] <jokeefe> sorry if that wasn't clear [12:42] <jokeefe> June 16th is still open. [12:42] <jokeefe> that would be a week after pride [12:43] == liz_kusanagi [~AndChat@217.sub-174-254-197.myvzw.com] has quit [Client Quit] [12:43] <jokeefe> which would give it more notice [12:43] == kittiekorn [~AndChat@217.sub-174-254-197.myvzw.com] has joined #masspirates [12:43] <jokeefe> and us more time to get the word out [12:43] <erixoltan> I guess I must have skimmed the meeting transcript while I was out and didn't catch that part about it staying on May 12 - sorry for my confusion. [12:43] <jokeefe> Jared Ball seems tentative at this time. [12:44] <jokeefe> June 16th would give us more time to involve others [12:45] <jokeefe> I don't think there is AC at the democracy center so summer might be out [12:45] <erixoltan> One of the valuable things we have so far is a list of PD films that we should definitely publicize - even for the ones we don't show. [12:46] <jokeefe> yes [12:47] <erixoltan> So I haven't seen all of the movies either. THe ones I liked best were Time Expired and Pioneer One. [12:47] <erixoltan> There were a couple of good Otherworlds shorts. [12:47] <erixoltan> I loved all of the TED talks. [12:48] <erixoltan> There were one or two family appropriate shorts that might be good to show near the start. [12:48] <erixoltan> Notably Sneeze me Away. [12:48] <jokeefe> lol [12:50] <erixoltan> All the things on Vodo have good video quality, which might be a drawback of some of the films listed. [12:50] <jokeefe> Yes, getting a good copy will be important [12:50] <erixoltan> Since Your Face is a Saxophone seems to come from NYPP members (?) the least we can do is to show it! [12:51] <kittiekorn> Yes, it is Zacqary who makes it [12:51] <jokeefe> So do we stay at May 12th or try to move to June 16th? [12:51] <erixoltan> I'm OK either way - you have a good point that 5/12 may be tight. [12:52] <erixoltan> Don't know about AC. [12:56] <Brady> Just how many people are you expecting? [12:56] <Brady> That's a good three weeks away. =0 [12:56] <jokeefe> the space could hold 50+ [12:56] <erixoltan> We had at least 30 at one point during the conference. [12:56] <Brady> I suppose that depends on how elaborate you wish to get with the 'film festival'... [12:56] <Brady> I suppose I should go to one. [12:57] <jokeefe> Right, but we had advertising via ars/torrentfreak and the phoenix [12:57] <Brady> We were just going to throw up a projector and get some popcorn. ;_; [12:57] <jokeefe> basically [12:57] <kittiekorn> Brady: that's still a good idea [12:57] <jokeefe> How about this. Lets come up with the schedule by tomorrow and put it out for comment and we can decide by Friday. I'll just call folks to get impressions. [12:58] <jokeefe> Hopefully we can get some posters designed by early next week. [12:58] <jokeefe> and then up [12:58] <erixoltan> I will put times next to the ones I have seen or can find out. [12:58] <jokeefe> start getting the word out by this Friday, tickets (free) via whatever service works [12:59] <Brady> Oh, wow, that's a good idea. [12:59] <Brady> Hmm [13:00] <jokeefe> i guess I feel like delaying it could just screw up other events we have planned [13:00] <jokeefe> does that plan work? [13:01] <erixoltan> OK that sounds good. [13:01] <jokeefe> We might even show cory doctorow's talk from the ppi conference which was very good. Falkvinge's was short [13:01] <jokeefe> too [13:01] <erixoltan> Does anyone know how long Your Face is a Saxophone will be? [13:01] <jokeefe> Zacqary? [13:01] <jokeefe> I think 30 min [13:01] <Zacqary> Oh! Hi! Right! I'm here. [13:01] <Zacqary> Yeah, 30 minutes each episode. [13:01] <jokeefe> I guess we have a lot of video to watch. [13:01] <Zacqary> About. [13:01] <jokeefe> thanks [13:02] <jokeefe> Next - Item 3. Election of new 1st Officer [13:03] <jokeefe> JP cannot be a candidate and an officer of a PAC (which is what we are) so we need a new 1st officer [13:03] <jokeefe> Lauren Pespisa is interested [13:03] <erixoltan> I nominate SplendidSpoon [13:03] <SplendidSpoon> sorry was talking with boss [13:03] <SplendidSpoon> What's going on? [13:04] <jokeefe> do you accept the nomination as our 1st officer? [13:04] <SplendidSpoon> Sure! [13:04] <jokeefe> all in favor? [13:04] <jokeefe> aye! [13:04] <erixoltan> arrr [13:05] <SplendidSpoon> Oh yea I was supposed to help JP this weekend but he never got in touch with me :( I also got sick so I couldn't have anyway :( [13:05] <SplendidSpoon> But normally I'll do everything I can so I won't let the crew down! [13:05] <jokeefe> well there is this weekend. hope you are feeling better [13:05] <jokeefe> be any scally wags opposed? [13:06] <SplendidSpoon> Yes, but I am going out late on Fri night to see a screening of "The Room"....w00t [13:06] <jokeefe> Sunday could be good. [13:07] <SplendidSpoon> Yea that should be fine [13:07] <erixoltan> I think it's unanimous... [13:08] <jokeefe> aye! [13:08] <jokeefe> And may the gods above help her! [13:08] <SplendidSpoon> lol [13:08] <SplendidSpoon> I got this :P [13:09] <jokeefe> ok, upcoming events [13:09] <SplendidSpoon> I also gotta get your stuff back to you Jamie [13:09] <jokeefe> Keep it for the upcoming events [13:09] <SplendidSpoon> k [13:09] <jokeefe> So we haven't heard a word from Extravaganja and Erik cannot make it. [13:10] <jokeefe> Lucia might be able to be at Wake Up the Earth [13:11] <jokeefe> Would you be able to be at that SplendidSpoon? [13:11] <jokeefe> May5th? [13:11] <SplendidSpoon> Yup [13:12] <Brady> Ping [13:12] <jokeefe> Lets try that then. Would be a good place to advertise the film fest too. [13:12] <SplendidSpoon> Need more fliers [13:12] <jokeefe> Yes. [13:12] <Brady> Have you considered hosting the event on a local university campus? [13:13] <Brady> In order to attract some college students? [13:13] <jokeefe> film fest? [13:14] <jokeefe> SplendidSpoon, would you be able to take a crack at the current flier text and update it in light of our party of open and people focus? [13:15] <SplendidSpoon> I guess so, I'm not much of a writer. [13:17] <SplendidSpoon> I need an outline [13:17] <SplendidSpoon> Like would it be the same visually as the last one? [13:17] <jokeefe> For now I think it is just rewording with the new Party of Open focus [13:17] <jokeefe> Here is the current one http://www.masspirates.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/TrifoldBrochure.pdf [13:17] <jokeefe> Just update the text and tell Jeanne how the flier should be updated [13:18] <jokeefe> does that work? [13:18] <SplendidSpoon> Yes I think I can figure that out [13:18] <jokeefe> great! [13:18] <SplendidSpoon> I mean some of the stuff is already kind of "open" focused [13:19] <erixoltan> You can always send it to me too and I'll comment on the writing. [13:19] <SplendidSpoon> ok cool [13:19] <jokeefe> thanks! [13:20] <SplendidSpoon> Got it :) [13:20] <erixoltan> I went throught the film festival list of movies and put times next to everything I could. Will massage it into a draft schedule and post it at the top so everyone can see it easily. [13:21] <jokeefe> thanks! [13:22] <jokeefe> I have a bunch of movies to view [13:22] <jokeefe> tonight [13:22] <jokeefe> any other stuff folks want to bring up? [13:23] <erixoltan> USPP is getting a new web server. IT committee seems to need volunteers. [13:23] <kittiekorn> Hah, seems.. [13:23] <kittiekorn> We need them. [13:24] <kittiekorn> Pretty much we can't get anything done till the website and servers are done [13:26] <kittiekorn> Not to interrupt like that, sorry >.> [13:26] <jokeefe> that is fine [13:26] <erixoltan> You're right.

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