November 29th, 2012 IRC Meeting

Agenda

1. Review of letter to members/supporters

Quick Notes / Summaries Re Proposed Bills to be Discussed:

1. Review of letter to members/supporters

Participants

• mildbeard - Erik Zoltan, Framingham
• SplendidSpoon - Lauren Pespisa, Boxboro/Cambridge
• srevilak - Steve Revilak
• jokeefe - James O'Keefe, Somerville

Observers:

Not recorded

Summary

1. Updated letter to members/supporters

Meeting Minutes

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Nov 29 12:06:45 <mildbeard> HI THERE Nov 29 12:12:23 <SplendidSpoon> hey Nov 29 12:12:32 <SplendidSpoon> Like I said, Jamie is out Nov 29 12:13:02 <SplendidSpoon> Where does he usually link the agenda? Nov 29 12:15:05 <mildbeard> I tried to scroll back to the last meeting but can't find it there. Nov 29 12:15:27 <mildbeard> We have an in-person meeting on the 9th, we should at least touch on that. Nov 29 12:15:30 <SplendidSpoon> http://piratepad.net/qiE68YKFQO Nov 29 12:15:39 <SplendidSpoon> Here's a pad with what he emailed Nov 29 12:15:42 <mildbeard> And the draft text of a letter that Jamie wrote up. Nov 29 12:15:49 <mildbeard> k Nov 29 12:15:57 <feedbot> [Twitter] masspirates: All kids like to learn - Ethiopian kids hack OLPCs in 5 months with zero instruction http://t.co/UTzE0aX5 - http://twitter.com/masspirates/statuses/274199833936551936 Nov 29 12:15:57 <SplendidSpoon> Yup, revise letter Nov 29 12:16:38 <mildbeard> I just corrected 2 typos. Nov 29 12:16:43 <SplendidSpoon> Cool Nov 29 12:17:19 <SplendidSpoon> I'm adding some stuff Nov 29 12:17:28 <mildbeard> I see that! Nov 29 12:17:51 <SplendidSpoon> lol Nov 29 12:19:45 <mildbeard> Hey I watched this great video from MIT, and I am going to propose that we have a comprehensive peer to peer policy. I wanted to link you to it. Nov 29 12:19:46 <mildbeard> http://civic.mit.edu/blog/mstem/peer-to-peer-politics Nov 29 12:20:41 <mildbeard> The premise of the talk is that there is a third kind of organization now (not govt/business) and we can base our policies on it. No other party is doing this but it's the most natural thing in the world for the Pirate Party. Nov 29 12:21:26 <SplendidSpoon> Ah interesting Nov 29 12:22:13 <SplendidSpoon> Do you read this blog http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/? Nov 29 12:22:25 <SplendidSpoon> A lot of interesting ideas here Nov 29 12:22:43 <mildbeard> I have seen it but don't read it regularly. Nov 29 12:23:08 <SplendidSpoon> It can be very high-level sometimes Nov 29 12:23:11 <mildbeard> will have to start! Nov 29 12:23:27 <SplendidSpoon> Yea I think it's a good Pirate-type blog, we should make a list on the website sometime Nov 29 12:23:41 <SplendidSpoon> falkvinge, torrentfreak, etc Nov 29 12:24:30 <mildbeard> Zacqary of NY outed me on falkvinge :). Nov 29 12:24:43 <mildbeard> He posted my payright essay and a lot of people started ripping it to shreds. Nov 29 12:24:44 <SplendidSpoon> oh yea I saw that Nov 29 12:25:01 <mildbeard> Naturally they hadn't read the whole thing and most of their objections were answered in the text... Nov 29 12:25:11 <SplendidSpoon> Words on the internet. Nov 29 12:25:36 <mildbeard> yeah Nov 29 12:25:59 <mildbeard> Are you coming on 12/9? Nov 29 12:26:05 <SplendidSpoon> I'm planning on it Nov 29 12:26:17 <mildbeard> Great. What kinds of snack foods do you like? Nov 29 12:26:34 * srevilak (~srevilak@209.104.kzu.w) has joined #masspirates Nov 29 12:26:34 * [4Q] gives channel operator status to srevilak Nov 29 12:26:34 * [4Q] gives voice to srevilak Nov 29 12:26:37 <SplendidSpoon> Salty Nov 29 12:26:40 <SplendidSpoon> lol Nov 29 12:26:46 * [4Q] sets channel limit to 17 Nov 29 12:26:49 <SplendidSpoon> I like most foods Nov 29 12:26:49 <mildbeard> awesome. Nov 29 12:26:53 <mildbeard> Hi srevilak! Nov 29 12:26:58 <srevilak> howdy Nov 29 12:27:17 <srevilak> sorry to be late. I joined #masspirate instead of #masspirates :( Nov 29 12:27:21 <mildbeard> http://piratepad.net/qiE68YKFQO Nov 29 12:27:29 * jokeefe (~jokeefe@087-4-29-9.c6-3.smr-ubr4.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com) has joined #masspirates Nov 29 12:27:29 * [4Q] gives channel operator status to jokeefe Nov 29 12:27:29 * [4Q] gives voice to jokeefe Nov 29 12:27:34 <mildbeard> We're talking about the draft text of the letter Jamie sent out, and editing it. Nov 29 12:27:36 <mildbeard> Hi jokeefe Nov 29 12:27:37 <mildbeard> http://piratepad.net/qiE68YKFQO Nov 29 12:27:38 <jokeefe> hi all Nov 29 12:27:42 * [4Q] sets channel limit to 18 Nov 29 12:27:44 <jokeefe> goodie Nov 29 12:30:38 <mildbeard> This piratepad has multi-spoon technology :P Nov 29 12:30:49 <SplendidSpoon> lol. Nov 29 12:30:55 <jokeefe> ;-) Nov 29 12:30:58 <SplendidSpoon> Too many tabs Nov 29 12:31:12 <SplendidSpoon> Syria is down Nov 29 12:31:15 <mildbeard> It's good to show edits in a different color. Nov 29 12:31:21 <mildbeard> the country? Nov 29 12:31:24 <SplendidSpoon> Yes Nov 29 12:31:39 <SplendidSpoon> They pulled the plug and what little we hear it sounds like a massacre Nov 29 12:31:45 <mildbeard> aah Nov 29 12:31:57 <SplendidSpoon> So there's a lot going on right now Nov 29 12:32:10 <SplendidSpoon> Telecomix has been nuked for months, under massive DDoS Nov 29 12:32:19 <SplendidSpoon> So we barely have the resources to help like before Nov 29 12:32:48 <SplendidSpoon> Well, hopefully Assad gets ousted and a Syrian Pirate Party forms Nov 29 12:33:44 <mildbeard> Take a look at this, it's a graph of network activity from Syria. Nov 29 12:33:45 <mildbeard> http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/64467000/jpg/_64467960_64467959.jpg Nov 29 12:33:51 <SplendidSpoon> Looks like Egypt Nov 29 12:34:09 <SplendidSpoon> 2 years ago Nov 29 12:34:59 <SplendidSpoon> January 27 2011 Nov 29 12:35:30 <jokeefe> yikes Nov 29 12:35:37 <jokeefe> got an article for that image? Nov 29 12:35:52 <SplendidSpoon> http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2012/11/29/syria_blackout_internet_shutdown_a_bad_sign_for_activists_assad_regime.html Nov 29 12:35:57 <SplendidSpoon> Heres on Nov 29 12:38:10 <srevilak> mildbeard: that certainly is a cliff Nov 29 12:38:27 <mildbeard> yup Nov 29 12:39:20 <srevilak> I like the outreach letter a lot Nov 29 12:39:34 <SplendidSpoon> Landlines now back in scattered areas across #Syria | #Telecomix Internet +33172890150 +46708671911 login/pass: toto/toto Nov 29 12:46:07 <mildbeard> The telecomix "join us" link is too busy to use :). Nov 29 12:46:40 <SplendidSpoon> oh its under ddos Nov 29 12:46:49 <SplendidSpoon> telecomix irc has been down for months Nov 29 12:46:54 <mildbeard> aah Nov 29 12:47:00 <SplendidSpoon> sucks, but some people meet in other secret spots to do ops Nov 29 12:47:36 <mildbeard> do they have a p2p network? Nov 29 12:47:58 <feedbot> [Twitter] masspirates: Not a good sign. Syria's Internet Just Went Entirely Dark http://t.co/MR5NNcmq via @splendidspoon who said that land lines might be up a bit - http://twitter.com/masspirates/statuses/274206622371442688 Nov 29 12:48:49 <SplendidSpoon> Not sure Nov 29 12:53:32 <SplendidSpoon> OK guys I have a lot of work to do Nov 29 12:53:36 <SplendidSpoon> Laters Nov 29 12:53:45 * SplendidSpoon has quit (Quit: All these moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain) Nov 29 12:57:44 <mildbeard> Jamie, are we also going to include a SASE with a checklist for how they could help us? Nov 29 12:59:07 <jokeefe> of course Nov 29 12:59:32 <jokeefe> I have a volunteer/donation form I can send out for review as well. Nov 29 12:59:43 <mildbeard> Maybe a project for next week's mtg. Nov 29 13:00:11 <jokeefe> yes Nov 29 13:00:37 <jokeefe> Made some more changes to the letter Nov 29 13:00:59 <mildbeard> I like the letter. We can tweak or make additional wording changes, but I think we have a great document and it's going to get responses. Nov 29 13:01:15 <jokeefe> I hope so. Nov 29 13:01:25 <jokeefe> Gotta get the list tonight, and merge them. Nov 29 13:01:32 <mildbeard> Did you get the list of registered voters? Nov 29 13:02:06 <mildbeard> I had a great interview last night with those folks from Hawaii. Nov 29 13:02:36 <mildbeard> It sounds like Debora is going to try to help out with starting a Hawaii Pirate Party (HIPP?) Nov 29 13:03:14 <jokeefe> cool, glad to hear it went well Nov 29 13:04:41 <mildbeard> The PNC elected a FIrst Officer (Caleb Langeslag) and a Quartermaster (David Gorsky) Nov 29 13:04:51 <mildbeard> Both running unopposed. Nov 29 13:05:00 <jokeefe> where are they from? Nov 29 13:05:27 <mildbeard> David is from NY and is Lindsay's fiancee. I forget which state Caleb is from but he's the IT Committee Chair. Nov 29 13:05:35 <mildbeard> The USPP has a new test website and they are asking for comments and assistance with it. Nov 29 13:05:53 <mildbeard> http://testing.uspirates.org Nov 29 13:06:00 <jokeefe> thanks for the link Nov 29 13:06:03 <mildbeard> It's still under development. Nov 29 13:07:52 <mildbeard> That's all for USPP stuff. Nov 29 13:09:55 <jokeefe> thanks Nov 29 13:10:11 <jokeefe> trying to find the quick 1/3 page sign up sheet Nov 29 13:10:50 * sharp has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) Nov 29 13:10:58 <jokeefe> found it Nov 29 13:13:48 <jokeefe> https://dl.dropbox.com/s/wh0hi9vmmrimlng/VolunteerContributionForm.ods?dl=1 Nov 29 13:14:43 <mildbeard> If we're asking to text them, I'd add a separate field for cell phone. Nov 29 13:15:23 <jokeefe> considering our supporters, many only have mobile phones Nov 29 13:15:31 <jokeefe> but point taken Nov 29 13:15:36 <jokeefe> space was limited Nov 29 13:15:47 <mildbeard> I would add running for office to the list of things they can do. Nov 29 13:15:52 <jokeefe> agreed Nov 29 13:15:59 <mildbeard> And getting signatures. Nov 29 13:16:19 <mildbeard> We should be able to expand this if it's a SASE. We probably don't want to limit it to a postcard since there's private info on there. Nov 29 13:16:33 <jokeefe> how about "helping or being a candidate" Nov 29 13:16:49 <jokeefe> agreed or if they give $ Nov 29 13:17:12 <jokeefe> Have a stockpile of #10 & #9 evelopes Nov 29 13:17:18 <jokeefe> envelopes Nov 29 13:17:30 <mildbeard> Can I tweak that copy and email you an update suggestion? Nov 29 13:17:40 <jokeefe> please do Nov 29 13:17:42 <mildbeard> thanks Nov 29 13:17:59 <jokeefe> would you email the whole irc discussion or put it on the wiki page? Nov 29 13:18:17 <mildbeard> sure Nov 29 13:18:41 <jokeefe> thanks Nov 29 13:19:06 <jokeefe> looks like we covered everything for now.