March 28th, 2013 IRC Meeting

Agenda

1. Meetup Review
2. Committee Reports
3. Survey
4. Conference
   1. Space
5. Legislation

Quick Notes / Summaries Re Proposed Bills to be Discussed:

• Survey results
• Conference site info

Participants

• srevilak - Steve Revilak, Arlington
• SplendidSpoon - Lauren Pespisa, Boxboro/Cambridge
• jokeefe - James O'Keefe, Somerville
• steverudy - Steve Rudolfi, Watertown, MA
• js0000 - john saylor
• Shidash - M. C. McGrath, Boston, MA

Observers:

• passstab - PA
• ageis
• aurelien
• Dionysus
• OurAnonTimes
• zby_home
• bsod
• dan_
• cmal
• illunatic
• Mozart
• AdVATAR

Summary

Committee Reports

Democracy/IT

• as of last night, our wiki should be spam-free, or pretty darn close to spam free
• mayfirst (hosting provider we're moving too) has a nice canned mediawiki setup, but it's a slightly older version
• plan is to export remaining pages (about 135 of them), and import into a new mediawiki instance
• hopefully we can use mysqldump to migrate users accounts, but that needs to be tested
• we do wiki migration when Democracy committee next meets
• set up new masspirates web site last sat, and working on mailing list migration
• new blog at masspiratesweb.mayfirst.org
• 3dclay sent new image design, sent him comments, waiting on final version
• need more stock images, since this new theme is more image intensive

Welcoming

• posted a request for interns
• found a site for an evening meetup

Conference

Space

Haven't heard back from all places yet. Will put out a flier with date and location vague.

Topics & Speakers

A talk on using whatever GitLaw like platform we adopt would be good.

Logistics

js0000 said he would help with the conference wifi.

Legislation

Started a review of An Act updating privacy protections for personal electronic information, but since it consisted only of the changes and not what is being changed, it proved to be more difficult to tackle it in a half an hour.

Discussion ensued about what tools we could use to track such diffs. They included:

• Setting up a [1] account since they are free for public items.
• Setting up a git server on our new hosting service
• Using [2]
• Using Will, which was done by some Occupy Boston folks

Some tools we found:

• https://github.com/morrissinger/ma-laws
• https://github.com/sethwoodworth/mass-legis-boston-public

For inspiration is this blog post: GitHub for Laws and Legal Documents - a Tourniquet for American Liberty

Other Ideas

We could use some kind of listing of current endeavors and maybe specific things that need volunteers. jokeefe agreed to put one up on the wiki.

Meeting Minutes

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[12:04] <@jokeefe> Agenda at http://masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=March_28th,_2013_IRC_Meeting [12:05] <@jokeefe> starting ids - James O'Keefe, Somerville [12:08] <@srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington [12:08] <@Shidash> M. C. McGrath, Boston [12:09] <+steverudy> Steve Rudolfi, Watertown, MA [12:13] <@jokeefe> Meetup Review - Lucia and I passed out fliers for the conference. Sparsely attended lunch. Had to miss the "Patents are good" talk due to family. Got to boo the job of a patent examiner on stage at the nVidia demo/talk [12:13] <@jokeefe> sorry that was for pax [12:13] <@jokeefe> How was LibrePlanet? [12:13] <@srevilak> was good [12:14] <@srevilak> got to give a 5 min talk to 25 people [12:14] <@srevilak> "Hi we're here, here's what we're about. Wanna run for office?" [12:14] <@jokeefe> nice [12:15] <@srevilak> Two good talks. Once from Wendy seltzer of berkman center on internet and copyright [12:15] <@srevilak> another from sunlight foundation, civx on civic hacking [12:15] <@jokeefe> cool, any of the talks up on video? haven't seen them on the site. [12:16] <@srevilak> not yet, but I think intention is to get them up eventually [12:16] <@srevilak> sadly, mine wasn't recorded. [12:17] <@jokeefe> dang [12:19] <@jokeefe> Committee reports, next [12:19] <+feedbot> [Twitter] masspirates: @asher_wolf yay!!! sick kids can be a very scary thing. glad to know he is better. - http://twitter.com/masspirates/statuses/317309479916032001 [12:20] <@jokeefe> Democracy - srevilak cleaned the wiki of spam, new website nearly done, been adding blog posts in both for now. [12:20] == Shidash [~shidash@941-52-48-057-rfxxjmu2i.bu.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] [12:21] <@srevilak> More democracy - I've done a test load of wiki into new hosting provider's infrastructure. Worked out. Just need to do it for real. [12:24] <@jokeefe> cool [12:24] == Dionysius [webchat@65.209.sw.mv] has joined #masspirates [12:24] == mode/#masspirates [+v Dionysius] by [4Q] [12:24] == mode/#masspirates [+l 22] by [4Q] [12:25] <@jokeefe> So, survey. It is at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkPs3eiAOk5mdG9WRG9mOC15Z2lIUS1ZcTdVck84SkE#gid=0 [12:25] <@jokeefe> Surprisingly the vote for no policy was the largest item for the change the voting age group of questions. [12:25] <@jokeefe> 43% [12:26] <@jokeefe> for the others is was 0% or 5%. About two had 14%. [12:27] <@jokeefe> other than that it struck me as techno-libertarian-socialists. [12:27] <@jokeefe> 76% - Open culture eliminates monopoly [12:27] <@jokeefe> 81% - we should have a local focus [12:28] <@jokeefe> 81% - reform democracy [12:29] <@jokeefe> 0% - that our policy should emphasize terrorism [12:29] <+davidd> 17:25|<jokeefe:#masspirates> Surprisingly the vote for no policy was the largest [12:29] <+davidd> i feel a bit of pride [12:29] <+davidd> i suggested the "no policy" option to ...beard [12:30] <@jokeefe> good that you did. [12:30] <+davidd> mildbeard [12:30] <+davidd> that was his nick [12:31] <+davidd> i like what you guys are doing, keep it up [12:31] <@jokeefe> Kind of surprised that eliminating medical patents was a bit lower than single payer, but we didn't mail to just pirates, but anyone we had contact with. [12:32] <+davidd> was that a question where multiple ticks were advised? [12:32] <@jokeefe> yes, it was choose all that apply [12:32] <@jokeefe> clearly though, we need to move these to web and specify a time limit. one survey just came in this week. [12:33] <+davidd> what is the estimated responserate? [12:33] <@jokeefe> 21 of ~160+ IIRC. [12:34] <@jokeefe> though we had a number of bounces [12:35] <+davidd> so each tick is abuot 5% votes [12:37] <@jokeefe> about [12:38] <@jokeefe> anyone up for writing a blog post with the results? [12:40] == Shidash [~shidash@74-90-00-364-uleqqvhd8f.bu.edu] has joined #masspirates [12:40] == mode/#masspirates [+o Shidash] by [4Q] [12:40] == mode/#masspirates [+v Shidash] by [4Q] [12:40] == mode/#masspirates [+l 23] by [4Q] [12:41] <+davidd> i suggest you make a report in pdf and at least send it to the people that returned the form [12:44] <@jokeefe> moving on - conference [12:44] <@jokeefe> info at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkPs3eiAOk5mdDlqRm90UWhRUUpPY1E4cC1icUU0a3c&usp=sharing [12:44] <@jokeefe> Sadly the nonprofit center doesn't work with 527s, so it is out. [12:45] <@jokeefe> They suggested another site spacewithasoul.org so I emailed them. [12:46] <@jokeefe> Baring a favorable report from them, looks like we are left with the Community Church or the Democracy Center [12:46] == js0000 [~jsaylor@makqkv-95.feldberg.brandeis.edu] has joined #masspirates [12:46] == mode/#masspirates [+v js0000] by [4Q] [12:46] <@jokeefe> hi js0000 [12:46] <+js0000> hey [12:46] == mode/#masspirates [+l 24] by [4Q] [12:47] <@jokeefe> agenda etc at http://masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=March_28th,_2013_IRC_Meeting [12:47] <+js0000> sorry i missed most of meeting ... [12:47] <@jokeefe> on the conference