March 27th, 2012 IRC Meeting

Agenda

1. Upcoming events

2. The Party of Open?

3. Public policy questions to put on the Nov. 2012 ballot?

4. Website / wiki / liquid feedback cleanup / setup

5. Anything else others want to bring up.

Quick Notes / Summaries Re Proposed Bills to be Discussed:

1. Upcoming events

 * Get JP on the ballot
 * March 29th - Ignite 9, MIT?
 * April 4th - Together Boston panel on patents
 * April 7th - Together Boston Tabling - Lauren, Jeanne & others
 * April 7/8th - BarCamp, MIT?
 * April 6-8th - PaxEast, Boston Convention Center?
 * April 6-8th - AnimeBoston, Hynes Convention center?
 * April 28th - Extravaganja
 * May 12th: Film Festival
 * June: Boston Pride

2. The Party of Open?

NOTE: We solicited additional comments on the blog - http://www.masspirates.org/blog/2012/03/23/thepartyofopen/

David Hardwick suggested that we be the party of open, namely:

 * Open Government - increased government transparency
 * Open Culture - limited copyrights & more sharing
 * Open Innovation - no patents

A few unresolved questions:

 * How to make increased personal privacy open?
 * How to make reining in corporations open?
 * Is Open Government or Open Democracy more true to our ideals and objectives?

Erik noted:

"open" is one of the critical ideas but not the only one. We're also the party of the human being, which explains the personal privacy and reining in corporations.

I think open government is the right phrasing. I also believe in participatory government. Democracy may be the best model so far, but we should be willing to try something even better in the future.

4. Public policy questions to put on the Nov. 2012 ballot?

Attending

• bsod - http://activepolitic.com:82/
• jokeefe - James O'Keefe, Somerville
• SplendidSpoon - Lauren Pespisa, Boxboro/Cambridge
• erixoltan - Erik Zoltan, Framingham
• JP - JP Hollembaek, Lowell
• GrimJack - Chicopee, near Spfld

Summary

1. Upcoming events

 * Get JP on the ballot
 * March 29th - Ignite 9, MIT?
 * April 4th - Together Boston panel on patents
 * April 7th - Together Boston Tabling - Lauren, Jeanne & others
 * April 7/8th - BarCamp, MIT?
 * April 6-8th - PaxEast, Boston Convention Center?
 * April 6-8th - AnimeBoston, Hynes Convention center?
 * April ? - Extravaganja
 * May 12th: Film Festival
 * June: Boston Pride

2. The Party of Open?

3. Public policy questions to put on the Nov. 2012 ballot?

4. Planned/Possible future events:

 * July
   * Art Beat
   * Pirate Picnic?
 * August Mini conference?
 * September: Freedom Rally
 * Oct-Dec: Local Issues conference

Meeting Minutes

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[11:57] <jokeefe> lets start early [11:57] <jokeefe> Agenda at http://masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=March_27th,_2012_IRC_Meeting [11:57] <jokeefe> modifications welcome [11:58] <jokeefe> I'll start with id: James O'Keefe, Somerville [11:58] == erixoltan [47aee4da@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.174.228.218] has joined #masspirates [11:58] <JP> JP Hollembaek, Lowell [11:58] <erixoltan> Erik Zoltan, Framingham [11:59] <GrimJack> um.. not comfy putting my RL name out there.. [11:59] <JP> no worries [11:59] <GrimJack> I'm in Chicopee, near Spfld. [11:59] <jokeefe> fine [11:59] <jokeefe> it's all good [11:59] <jokeefe> 4. Website / wiki / liquid feedback cleanup / setup [11:59] <jokeefe> BTW; added this to the agenda - 4. Website / wiki / liquid feedback cleanup / setup [12:01] <jokeefe> First up 1. Upcoming events [12:01] <jokeefe> JP, would you like to speak about what you need from the party for your campaign? [12:02] <SplendidSpoon> Lauren Pespisa, Boxborough/Cambridge [12:02] <JP> yup. right now we are in the signature collection phase. we need to get 300 signatures over the next few weeks to ensure I am on the ballot [12:02] <SplendidSpoon> I will help JP with his campaign as much as I can! [12:02] <JP> I intend to find out when the next few events are in lowell, so we can get people there [12:03] <JP> Im jphollembaek@gmail.com on fb, so feel free to message me there [12:03] <SplendidSpoon> ok, I will go to any events I can to help! [12:03] <K`Tetch> Andrew Norton, in georgia, here to help the channel look big and popular :-) [12:03] <JP> excellent ^^ I will be making a fb campaign page, a campaign gmail, bank account, and advertising later this week [12:04] <SplendidSpoon> ok, I'm Lauren Pespisa on fb (we are friends) feel free to message me whenever if you have tasks you need people to do [12:05] <JP> huzzuh! [12:05] <SplendidSpoon> I have car, time, and energy to spend :D [12:05] <jokeefe> Recommendation on the FB page - have multiple admins so if you or your campaign account get booted (have seen this happen), someone you know keeps control of the FB page until you get a new account [12:05] <JP> all good things [12:05] <JP> indeed [12:05] <SplendidSpoon> Wow they boot campaign accounts? [12:05] <K`Tetch> indeed james, I even have a spare fb account, thats an admin on my pages and NEVER used, just for that reason [12:05] <SplendidSpoon> Do you have a twitter JP? [12:05] <K`Tetch> (I'd hate to lose control of the torrentfreak facebook page, for instance)0 [12:06] <JP> yup, Ill need to do more with it [12:06] <jokeefe> JP, As soon as you have the FB page and campaign account, we can put them up on the web site, email supporters and get the word out. [12:06] <JP> never got the hnag of it [12:06] <JP> excellent, Ill get the ball rolling [12:06] <jokeefe> thanks [12:06] <K`Tetch> and I'm willing to help you with any publicity I can [12:07] <K`Tetch> and press help [12:07] <JP> awesome. once I get the fb page up, Ill let everyone know [12:07] <jokeefe> SplendidSpoon, yes FB has been known to boot accounts because of unspecified complaints. Had it happen to a group I setup years ago. [12:07] <SplendidSpoon> Wow that sucks [12:07] <jokeefe> Anyone going to speak at Ignite 9 or Barcamp? [12:09] <jokeefe> I will be speaking at Together Boston's Patent panel on April 4th. Lauren and Jeanne will be tabling at Together Boston on the 7th. If anyone can help them, that would be great. [12:09] <jokeefe> GrimJack, might you happen to know when Extravaganja is up in Amherst? [12:09] <GrimJack> Not off the top of my head, but give me a moment... [12:10] <K`Tetch> if you've got talks/slides pre-planned, I can look them over and give a factcheck [12:10] == deximer [~jstark@173-100-101-230.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #masspirates [12:10] <jokeefe> for the panel? [12:10] <jokeefe> K`Tetch? [12:10] <K`Tetch> yes [12:10] <K`Tetch> or anything [12:11] <deximer> ahoy [12:11] <jokeefe> ahoy deximer, agenda be at http://masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=March_27th,_2012_IRC_Meeting [12:11] <jokeefe> Feel free to id yourself as much as ye be will'n [12:11] <SplendidSpoon> The video of my talk has 123 views :D [12:11] <jokeefe> wow! [12:11] <SplendidSpoon> It got retweeted by Isak Gerson [12:12] <SplendidSpoon> and Telecomix [12:12] <SplendidSpoon> That's probably why [12:12] <K`Tetch> nice [12:12] <K`Tetch> link? [12:12] <SplendidSpoon> I'm glad he approved, considering he's like, the Pope of Kopimism [12:12] <jokeefe> they are at http://www.youtube.com/masspirates [12:12] <SplendidSpoon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHsG0hADhas [12:12] <K`Tetch> nice! [12:12] <K`Tetch> I'll look over them shortly [12:12] <jokeefe> more besides SplendidSpoon's and mine soon [12:12] <SplendidSpoon> Yes, it seems Kopimism struck a chord with many people [12:13] <SplendidSpoon> I am considering actually doing a piece on it for the next No Safe Harbor now [12:13] <GrimJack> Extravaganja 2010 will be on April 28th according to this: http://umasscrc.org/extra.php [12:13] <SplendidSpoon> Might as well [12:13] <GrimJack> 2012* [12:13] <deximer> my id: Jeremy Stark, ref'd to you guys from an Occupy Boston event where I demoed a website I'm working on: http://generalwill.org [12:13] <jokeefe> Thanks GrimJack [12:13] <jokeefe> thanks, deximer [12:13] <jokeefe> Folks should feel free to subscribe to the youtube account. hint hint [12:14] <K`Tetch> I'm going to start lookig it up, we might want to incude a panel on it at Dragoncon (I work on the EFF track there) [12:14] <erixoltan> I'm just about to upload Conor Sherman's talk to the youtube account - it's almost done rendering. [12:14] <jokeefe> Arrr! [12:14] <SplendidSpoon> w00t [12:15] <K`Tetch> erixoltan - what are you using to render it? [12:15] <K`Tetch> I've found corel to be a LOT faster than adobe (like almost 3x faster) [12:15] <jokeefe> Would anyone be willing to table at Extravaganja on April 28th? [12:15] <erixoltan> I'm doing everything in opensource software. I had to amplify the audio in HandBrake and/or Pitivi, and I'm rendering the final copy in OpenShot. [12:16] <erixoltan> Speed is not its claim to fame... [12:16] <jokeefe> You should post a how to video on what you did, erixoltan [12:16] <K`Tetch> ah, I don't worry so much about open source software, since I'm not a member of the fsf. I just want software that works [12:16] <erixoltan> Yeah. [12:16] <SplendidSpoon> Extravaganja is at UMass amherst right? [12:16] <jokeefe> yes [12:16] <SplendidSpoon> I'd table that but not alone [12:17] <jokeefe> Well, lets see who we can get to help and how much a table costs [12:18] <SplendidSpoon> ok [12:18] <erixoltan> It's a good opportunity since we have a position they'll love. [12:18] <jokeefe> Would someone take up the task of contacting cannabis@umasscrc.org and asking them how much a table would cost, if anything? It is on the Amherst common, after all. [12:19] <SplendidSpoon> My friend used to run that when she was at UMass [12:19] <SplendidSpoon> I wonder if she's going [12:20] <SplendidSpoon> Maybe she'd help [12:20] <SplendidSpoon> Unless she's got her own thing to push there lol [12:20] <jokeefe> :-) [12:20] <jokeefe> So the two other important events are the film fest and Boston Pride. [12:21] <jokeefe> We need to lock down what we will be showing at the film fest on May 12th soon. [12:21] <jokeefe> Anyone(s) want to take on that task? [12:22] <erixoltan> How do we make that sort of decision - who decides and what sort of consensus do we need? [12:23] <erixoltan> I'd be happy to be involved but I'm not sure how to go about it. [12:24] <jokeefe> Basically someone(s) need to agree to make a list and bring it back to us for final approval [12:24] <JP> I have to get going to my doc appt.. have a good day everyone [12:24] <erixoltan> I can put together a draft list with the amount of time for each movie based on suggestions that have already been made. [12:24] <jokeefe> take care JP! [12:25] <JP> peace [12:25] == JP [183f564d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.63.86.77] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [12:25] <jokeefe> Our formal process for decisionmaking is listed at http://www.masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=Articles_of_Agreement#Article_3.0_.E2.80.93_Decision_Making [12:25] <jokeefe> Cool. [12:25] <erixoltan> What's the total duration of the film festival? [12:25] <jokeefe> erixoltan [12:26] <jokeefe> I believe we have the space from 3pm to 10pm, let me double check [12:26] <SplendidSpoon> May 12 is my friends wedding :( [12:26] <SplendidSpoon> But maybe it'll be over by then [12:26] <jokeefe> yes 3pm+ [12:27] <erixoltan> OK great. [12:27] <SplendidSpoon> Not sure what time the wedding is, it's going to be pretty unconventional... [12:27] <SplendidSpoon> no like, formal reception or anything I don't think [12:27] <jokeefe> We also have to have the Jared Ball talk on his book "I mix what I like" as part of it [12:28] <jokeefe> sounds fun, SplendidSpoon [12:28] <erixoltan> Aah, so like an hour? [12:28] <SplendidSpoon> It's Gregg's wedding [12:28] <SplendidSpoon> Kind of a big deal lol [12:29] <jokeefe> Did they post it anywhere? K said it was open to all. [12:29] <SplendidSpoon> But if it ends I will try to come to festival to help after [12:29] <SplendidSpoon> Yes its open wedding on the common [12:29] <jokeefe> thanks [12:29] <SplendidSpoon> I don't think official announcements anywhere yet [12:30] <jokeefe> Would anyone be able to help run the film fest on the day of it? [12:31] <erixoltan> I'm planning on attending and can help, but am not always that punctual :). [12:32] <jokeefe> Thanks [12:33] <deximer> What is meant by "help"? [12:33] <jokeefe> open the space, run the movies, greet people [12:33] <jokeefe> we plan for it to be free so there aren't any tickets [12:34] <jokeefe> but we will likely have t-shirts, etc. for sale [12:34] <deximer> Where is the space? [12:34] <K`Tetch> eject people being disruptie [12:34] <jokeefe> Democracy Center in Harvard Sq. Cambridge [12:34] <SplendidSpoon> lol eject [12:35] <jokeefe> copy / paste them outside? [12:35] <erixoltan> Well they are pirates... [12:35] <deximer> Is this a family friendly event? [12:36] <jokeefe> for the first half. Figure kids aren't likely to be around in the evening [12:36] <jokeefe> then we can play night of the living dead (since it is public domain ... ) <joking> [12:36] <erixoltan> That's good to know. I will make a proposal that stacks anything like that at the end. [12:36] <jokeefe> though it is public domain [12:37] <jokeefe> whatever cartoons / silents can go in the early part perhaps? [12:37] <K`Tetch> run cartoons between the films! [12:37] <deximer> If one side is kid friendly I can bring the family and detach to help out [12:37] <K`Tetch> like its an old fashioned cinema [12:37] <jokeefe> aye [12:37] <jokeefe> thanks, deximer [12:37] <deximer> don't forget to buy war bonds [12:38] <K`Tetch> wonder if there's any newsreels available [12:38] <[bsod]> too lazy to read backlog today [12:38] <[bsod]> did i miss anything [12:38] <erixoltan> lmao [12:38] <jokeefe> talking events [12:38] <GrimJack> I wonder if any of the serials produced are PD now... [12:38] <K`Tetch> yes, the whole scrollback you lazy git [12:38] <jokeefe> deximer, if you would email us at info@masspirates.org so we have your contact info. [12:38] <jokeefe> that would be great [12:39] <deximer> ok [12:39] <[bsod]> lol [12:39] <jokeefe> newsreels were from the 30s on so still in copyright? [12:39] <jokeefe> serials would be fun [12:39] <[bsod]> our copyright term is way too long eh [12:40] <[bsod]> just say, "hey its canadian public domain" [12:40] <jokeefe> Don't need the MPAA trying to sue us [12:40] <K`Tetch> wouldn't matter though, [bsod] [12:40] <[bsod]> i know, sarcasm [12:40] <K`Tetch> thats what caused the amazon kindle 1984 incident [12:40] <jokeefe> Last event on the list is the march / tabling at Boston Pride in June. If anyone can help, that would be great [12:40] <K`Tetch> the books pd most places but not the us [12:41] <jokeefe> next up is 2. The Party of Open? [12:41] <jokeefe> Likely to be an ongoing discussion [12:41] <[bsod]> i thought it was worded well on your youtube account there