November 29th, 2012 IRC Meeting

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Nov 29 12:06:16 *	Now talking on #masspirates
Nov 29 12:06:16 *	Topic for #masspirates is: welcome to the home of the massachusetts pirate party http://www.masspirates.org/blog/ 
Nov 29 12:06:16 *	Topic for #masspirates set by [bsod]!~bsod@xx.pirate at Thu Nov  1 12:02:54 2012
Nov 29 12:06:16 *	[4Q] gives channel operator status to mildbeard
Nov 29 12:06:16 *	[4Q] gives voice to mildbeard
Nov 29 12:06:25 *	[4Q] sets channel limit to 16
Nov 29 12:06:45 <mildbeard>	HI THERE
Nov 29 12:12:23 <SplendidSpoon>	hey
Nov 29 12:12:32 <SplendidSpoon>	Like I said, Jamie is out
Nov 29 12:13:02 <SplendidSpoon>	Where does he usually link the agenda?
Nov 29 12:15:05 <mildbeard>	I tried to scroll back to the last meeting but can't find it there.
Nov 29 12:15:27 <mildbeard>	We have an in-person meeting on the 9th, we should at least touch on that.
Nov 29 12:15:30 <SplendidSpoon>	http://piratepad.net/qiE68YKFQO
Nov 29 12:15:39 <SplendidSpoon>	Here's a pad with what he emailed
Nov 29 12:15:42 <mildbeard>	And the draft text of a letter that Jamie wrote up. 
Nov 29 12:15:49 <mildbeard>	k
Nov 29 12:15:57 <feedbot>	[Twitter] masspirates: All kids like to learn - Ethiopian kids hack OLPCs in 5 months with zero instruction http://t.co/UTzE0aX5 - http://twitter.com/masspirates/statuses/274199833936551936
Nov 29 12:15:57 <SplendidSpoon>	Yup, revise letter
Nov 29 12:16:38 <mildbeard>	I just corrected 2 typos.
Nov 29 12:16:43 <SplendidSpoon>	Cool
Nov 29 12:17:19 <SplendidSpoon>	I'm adding some stuff
Nov 29 12:17:28 <mildbeard>	I see that!
Nov 29 12:17:51 <SplendidSpoon>	lol
Nov 29 12:19:45 <mildbeard>	Hey I watched this great video from MIT, and I am going to propose that we have a comprehensive peer to peer policy. I wanted to link you to it. 
Nov 29 12:19:46 <mildbeard>	http://civic.mit.edu/blog/mstem/peer-to-peer-politics
Nov 29 12:20:41 <mildbeard>	The premise of the talk is that there is a third kind of organization now (not govt/business) and we can base our policies on it. No other party is doing this but it's the most natural thing in the world for the Pirate Party. 
Nov 29 12:21:26 <SplendidSpoon>	Ah interesting
Nov 29 12:22:13 <SplendidSpoon>	Do you read this blog http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?
Nov 29 12:22:25 <SplendidSpoon>	A lot of interesting ideas here
Nov 29 12:22:43 <mildbeard>	I have seen it but don't read it regularly. 
Nov 29 12:23:08 <SplendidSpoon>	It can be very high-level sometimes
Nov 29 12:23:11 <mildbeard>	will have to start!
Nov 29 12:23:27 <SplendidSpoon>	Yea I think it's a good Pirate-type blog, we should make a list on the website sometime
Nov 29 12:23:41 <SplendidSpoon>	falkvinge, torrentfreak, etc
Nov 29 12:24:30 <mildbeard>	Zacqary of NY outed me on falkvinge :).
Nov 29 12:24:43 <mildbeard>	He posted my payright essay and a lot of people started ripping it to shreds.
Nov 29 12:24:44 <SplendidSpoon>	oh  yea I saw that
Nov 29 12:25:01 <mildbeard>	Naturally they hadn't read the whole thing and most of their objections were answered in the text...
Nov 29 12:25:11 <SplendidSpoon>	Words on the internet.
Nov 29 12:25:36 <mildbeard>	yeah
Nov 29 12:25:59 <mildbeard>	Are you coming on 12/9? 
Nov 29 12:26:05 <SplendidSpoon>	I'm planning on it
Nov 29 12:26:17 <mildbeard>	Great. What kinds of snack foods do you like?
Nov 29 12:26:34 *	srevilak (~srevilak@209.104.kzu.w) has joined #masspirates
Nov 29 12:26:34 *	[4Q] gives channel operator status to srevilak
Nov 29 12:26:34 *	[4Q] gives voice to srevilak
Nov 29 12:26:37 <SplendidSpoon>	Salty
Nov 29 12:26:40 <SplendidSpoon>	lol
Nov 29 12:26:46 *	[4Q] sets channel limit to 17
Nov 29 12:26:49 <SplendidSpoon>	I like most foods
Nov 29 12:26:49 <mildbeard>	awesome.
Nov 29 12:26:53 <mildbeard>	Hi srevilak!
Nov 29 12:26:58 <srevilak>	howdy
Nov 29 12:27:17 <srevilak>	sorry to be late.  I joined #masspirate instead of #masspirates :(
Nov 29 12:27:21 <mildbeard>	http://piratepad.net/qiE68YKFQO
Nov 29 12:27:29 *	jokeefe (~jokeefe@087-4-29-9.c6-3.smr-ubr4.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com) has joined #masspirates
Nov 29 12:27:29 *	[4Q] gives channel operator status to jokeefe
Nov 29 12:27:29 *	[4Q] gives voice to jokeefe
Nov 29 12:27:34 <mildbeard>	We're talking about the draft text of the letter Jamie sent out, and editing it.
Nov 29 12:27:36 <mildbeard>	Hi jokeefe
Nov 29 12:27:37 <mildbeard>	http://piratepad.net/qiE68YKFQO
Nov 29 12:27:38 <jokeefe>	hi all
Nov 29 12:27:42 *	[4Q] sets channel limit to 18
Nov 29 12:27:44 <jokeefe>	goodie
Nov 29 12:30:38 <mildbeard>	This piratepad has multi-spoon technology :P
Nov 29 12:30:49 <SplendidSpoon>	lol.
Nov 29 12:30:55 <jokeefe>	;-)
Nov 29 12:30:58 <SplendidSpoon>	Too many tabs
Nov 29 12:31:12 <SplendidSpoon>	Syria is down
Nov 29 12:31:15 <mildbeard>	It's good to show edits in a different color.
Nov 29 12:31:21 <mildbeard>	the country?
Nov 29 12:31:24 <SplendidSpoon>	Yes
Nov 29 12:31:39 <SplendidSpoon>	They pulled the plug and what little we hear it sounds like a massacre
Nov 29 12:31:45 <mildbeard>	aah
Nov 29 12:31:57 <SplendidSpoon>	So there's a lot going on right now 
Nov 29 12:32:10 <SplendidSpoon>	Telecomix has been nuked for months, under massive DDoS
Nov 29 12:32:19 <SplendidSpoon>	So we barely have the resources to help like before
Nov 29 12:32:48 <SplendidSpoon>	Well, hopefully Assad gets ousted and a Syrian Pirate Party forms
Nov 29 12:33:44 <mildbeard>	Take a look at this, it's a graph of network activity from Syria.
Nov 29 12:33:45 <mildbeard>	http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/64467000/jpg/_64467960_64467959.jpg
Nov 29 12:33:51 <SplendidSpoon>	Looks like Egypt
Nov 29 12:34:09 <SplendidSpoon>	2 years ago
Nov 29 12:34:59 <SplendidSpoon>	January 27 2011
Nov 29 12:35:30 <jokeefe>	yikes
Nov 29 12:35:37 <jokeefe>	got an article for that image?
Nov 29 12:35:52 <SplendidSpoon>	http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2012/11/29/syria_blackout_internet_shutdown_a_bad_sign_for_activists_assad_regime.html
Nov 29 12:35:57 <SplendidSpoon>	Heres on
Nov 29 12:38:10 <srevilak>	mildbeard: that certainly is a cliff
Nov 29 12:38:27 <mildbeard>	yup
Nov 29 12:39:20 <srevilak>	I like the outreach letter a lot
Nov 29 12:39:34 <SplendidSpoon>	Landlines now back in scattered areas across #Syria | #Telecomix Internet +33172890150 +46708671911 login/pass: toto/toto
Nov 29 12:46:07 <mildbeard>	The telecomix "join us" link is too busy to use :).
Nov 29 12:46:40 <SplendidSpoon>	oh its under ddos
Nov 29 12:46:49 <SplendidSpoon>	telecomix irc has been down for months
Nov 29 12:46:54 <mildbeard>	aah
Nov 29 12:47:00 <SplendidSpoon>	sucks, but some people meet in other secret spots to do ops
Nov 29 12:47:36 <mildbeard>	do they have a p2p network? 
Nov 29 12:47:58 <feedbot>	[Twitter] masspirates: Not a good sign. Syria's Internet Just Went Entirely Dark http://t.co/MR5NNcmq via @splendidspoon who said that land lines might be up a bit - http://twitter.com/masspirates/statuses/274206622371442688
Nov 29 12:48:49 <SplendidSpoon>	Not sure
Nov 29 12:53:32 <SplendidSpoon>	OK guys I have a lot of work to do
Nov 29 12:53:36 <SplendidSpoon>	Laters
Nov 29 12:53:45 *	SplendidSpoon has quit (Quit: All these moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain)
Nov 29 12:57:44 <mildbeard>	Jamie, are we also going to include a SASE with a checklist for how they could help us? 
Nov 29 12:59:07 <jokeefe>	of course
Nov 29 12:59:32 <jokeefe>	I have a volunteer/donation form I can send out for review as well.
Nov 29 12:59:43 <mildbeard>	Maybe a project for next week's mtg. 
Nov 29 13:00:11 <jokeefe>	yes
Nov 29 13:00:37 <jokeefe>	Made some more changes to the letter
Nov 29 13:00:59 <mildbeard>	I like the letter. We can tweak or make additional wording changes, but I think we have a great document and it's going to get responses. 
Nov 29 13:01:15 <jokeefe>	I hope so.
Nov 29 13:01:25 <jokeefe>	Gotta get the list tonight, and merge them.
Nov 29 13:01:32 <mildbeard>	Did you get the list of registered voters? 
Nov 29 13:02:06 <mildbeard>	I had a great interview last night with those folks from Hawaii. 
Nov 29 13:02:36 <mildbeard>	It sounds like Debora is going to try to help out with starting a Hawaii Pirate Party (HIPP?) 
Nov 29 13:03:14 <jokeefe>	cool, glad to hear it went well
Nov 29 13:04:41 <mildbeard>	The PNC elected a FIrst Officer (Caleb Langeslag) and a Quartermaster (David Gorsky) 
Nov 29 13:04:51 <mildbeard>	Both running unopposed. 
Nov 29 13:05:00 <jokeefe>	where are they from?
Nov 29 13:05:27 <mildbeard>	David is from NY and is Lindsay's fiancee. I forget which state Caleb is from but he's the IT Committee Chair. 
Nov 29 13:05:35 <mildbeard>	The USPP has a new test website and they are asking for comments and assistance with it. 
Nov 29 13:05:53 <mildbeard>	http://testing.uspirates.org
Nov 29 13:06:00 <jokeefe>	thanks for the link
Nov 29 13:06:03 <mildbeard>	It's still under development.
Nov 29 13:07:52 <mildbeard>	That's all for USPP stuff.
Nov 29 13:09:55 <jokeefe>	thanks
Nov 29 13:10:11 <jokeefe>	trying to find the quick 1/3 page sign up sheet
Nov 29 13:10:50 *	sharp has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
Nov 29 13:10:58 <jokeefe>	found it
Nov 29 13:13:48 <jokeefe>	https://dl.dropbox.com/s/wh0hi9vmmrimlng/VolunteerContributionForm.ods?dl=1
Nov 29 13:14:43 <mildbeard>	If we're asking to text them, I'd add a separate field for cell phone. 
Nov 29 13:15:23 <jokeefe>	considering our supporters, many only have mobile phones
Nov 29 13:15:31 <jokeefe>	but point taken
Nov 29 13:15:36 <jokeefe>	space was limited
Nov 29 13:15:47 <mildbeard>	I would add running for office to the list of things they can do. 
Nov 29 13:15:52 <jokeefe>	agreed
Nov 29 13:15:59 <mildbeard>	And getting signatures.
Nov 29 13:16:19 <mildbeard>	We should be able to expand this if it's a SASE. We probably don't want to limit it to a postcard since there's private info on there. 
Nov 29 13:16:33 <jokeefe>	how about "helping or being a candidate"
Nov 29 13:16:49 <jokeefe>	agreed or if they give $
Nov 29 13:17:12 <jokeefe>	Have a stockpile of #10 & #9 evelopes
Nov 29 13:17:18 <jokeefe>	envelopes
Nov 29 13:17:30 <mildbeard>	Can I tweak that copy and email you an update suggestion? 
Nov 29 13:17:40 <jokeefe>	please do
Nov 29 13:17:42 <mildbeard>	thanks
Nov 29 13:17:59 <jokeefe>	would you email the whole irc discussion or put it on the wiki page?
Nov 29 13:18:17 <mildbeard>	sure
Nov 29 13:18:41 <jokeefe>	thanks
Nov 29 13:19:06 <jokeefe>	looks like we covered everything for now.