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21:01 < srevilak>
        https://masspirates.org/wiki/April_11th,_2017_IRC_Meeting
21:01 < papegaai> Title: April 11th, 2017 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki
        (at masspirates.org)
21:01 < jokeefe> Thanks
21:01 < jokeefe> ahoy moses
21:02 < WhatsABarrelBom> A HOY HOY MATEYS
21:02 < moses> ahoy
21:02 < jokeefe> ahoy WhatsABarrelBom
21:03 < jokeefe> Agenda:
        https://masspirates.org/wiki/April_11th,_2017_IRC_Meeting
21:03 < papegaai> Title: April 11th, 2017 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki
        (at masspirates.org)
21:04 < jokeefe> thanks to srevilak for putting it together
21:04 < jokeefe> ids
21:04 < jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville
21:04 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA
21:04 < WhatsABarrelBom> G, Lowell
21:04 < moses> Moses, West Tisbury MA
21:05 < jokeefe> Anything to add?
21:06 < WhatsABarrelBom> nah not here
21:06 < srevilak> I have a couple of conference updates (when we get
        there)
21:06 < jokeefe> ok
21:07 < jokeefe> Nothing for Review or Decisions/Endorsements, so moving
        to Projects
21:07 < jokeefe> Conference
21:07 < jokeefe> srevilak?
21:08 < srevilak> Contacted most of the panelists to inform them of times,
        and ask about name changes
21:08 < srevilak> Times are okay.
21:08 < srevilak> There were several suggested name changes, noted here
        https://masspirates.org/wiki/PirateCon_2017_Topics
21:08 < jokeefe> I updated the conference page with the schedule
21:08 < papegaai> Title: PirateCon 2017 Topics - Mass Pirate Wiki
        (at masspirates.org)
21:08 < srevilak> jokeefe and I are going to CCB tomorrow morning at
9:00 for walk through, and to get a read on wireless signal
21:09 < srevilak> I have two streaming setups ready; one video, and one
        audio (as backup)
21:09 < srevilak> will be able to record both video and audio
21:09 < jokeefe> will update conference page with new names and speakers
21:09 < jokeefe> thank you
21:09 < srevilak> Kendra will not be able to attend, but she'd like to
        be videoconferenced in
21:09 < srevilak> So, we'll need a second laptop available for that
21:10 < srevilak> Finally I haven't heard anything from the second
        speaker in fake news panel
21:10 < srevilak> after meeting, will write a "can you confirm you're
        presenting" note to her
21:10 < jokeefe> thanks
21:10 < srevilak> I think that's all I have
21:10 < jokeefe> I reached out to Grace Ross about participating in
        Organizing for a Sustainable, Accountable Movement
21:10 < jokeefe> looks like a possibility
21:12  * srevilak looks at todo list from
        https://masspirates.org/wiki/April_11th,_2017_IRC_Meeting#To_Dos
21:12 < papegaai> Title: April 11th, 2017 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki
        (at masspirates.org)
21:13 < srevilak> Anyone interested in working on a code of conduct?
21:13 < WhatsABarrelBom> code of conduct? pffffffffffffffffffft. who
        needs that?
21:13 < jokeefe> I would be happy to help
21:14 < jokeefe> I can work on volunteers
21:14 < jokeefe> Need to email them
21:15 < srevilak> WhatsABarrelBom: ideally, wouldn't be needed.  But
        better to have something that says "don't be a jerk" in not so many words
21:15 < jokeefe> Aaron will call the list and invite people to it
21:15 < WhatsABarrelBom> ...........i see
21:15 < jokeefe> I am fond of “don’t be a jerk”
21:15 < srevilak> jokeefe: that's great
21:15 < WhatsABarrelBom> that's very subjective
21:16 < moses> do unto others is a good starting place
21:16 < srevilak> aye
21:16 < jokeefe> We also need to see if we need child care
21:16 < WhatsABarrelBom> so the framework by which to witch hunt people
        who we decide we dont' like anymore?
21:16 < WhatsABarrelBom> cause that's what will happen
21:17 < srevilak> WhatsABarrelBom: no, more like setting expectations
        for people to be civil
21:17 < moses> aye
21:19 < jokeefe> Working on press and looking for someone ot do a poster
21:19 < srevilak> thx
21:19 < srevilak> which planks should we focus on during the breakout
        session?
21:19 < srevilak> (There's a list at https://github.com/masspirates/planks
        )
21:19 < papegaai> Title: GitHub - masspirates/planks: A place to define
        the Massachusetts Pirate Party planks (platform) (at github.com)
21:22 < jokeefe> email poll or just use the topics list from the last
        poll:
21:22 < jokeefe> Pirate strategy 16
21:22 < jokeefe> Net neutrality 15
21:22 < jokeefe> Open government 15
21:22 < jokeefe> Organizing 14
21:23 < jokeefe> Running campaigns 14
21:23 < jokeefe> Surveillance and countersurveillance 14
21:23 < jokeefe> Proposing local legislation 12
21:23 < jokeefe> Building third-party coalitions 11
21:23 < jokeefe> Corporate power 11
21:23 < jokeefe> Copyright 9
21:23 < jokeefe> Filing FOIA and public records requests 8
21:23 < jokeefe> Income inequality 7
21:23 < jokeefe> Patents 6
21:23 < jokeefe> The war on drugs 6
21:23 < jokeefe> Environment 6
21:23 < jokeefe> Minimum wage 3
21:23 < jokeefe> then again not sure the list works right
21:23 < srevilak>  But aren't those presentation topics, more than
        platforms?
21:23 < jokeefe> yes
21:24 < srevilak> I'd kind of like to do something with (for example)
        https://github.com/masspirates/planks/blob/master/RightToSecureLivelihoodAndSocialParticipation.txt
21:24 < papegaai> Title:
        planks/RightToSecureLivelihoodAndSocialParticipation.txt at master ·
        masspirates/planks · GitHub (at github.com)
21:24 < jokeefe> email poll then?
21:24 < srevilak> email poll would work
21:25 < moses> aye
21:25 < srevilak> Or, we could do it in two phases at piratecon
21:25 < srevilak> phase 1: come up with a list of planks (areas that
        our platform should address)
21:26 < srevilak> phase 2: pick three (or so), and have a group work on
        each one
21:26 < WhatsABarrelBom> less is more if you want to capture the center
21:27 < srevilak> A friend of mine use to work for the LWV.  Their
        conference focused on deciding priorites for the coming year, and writing
        a statement about them
21:27 < srevilak> I'm hoping we can build some policies/goals from the
        ground up
21:27 < jokeefe> I like the email poll as it could draw people into
        the conference
21:27 < srevilak> ok
21:28 < jokeefe> would be good to have a post-conference plan for people
        getting together to continue the discussion
21:28 < srevilak> agreed
21:32 < jokeefe> moses, G any tasks you can take
        on? https://masspirates.org/wiki/April_11th,_2017_IRC_Meeting#To_Dos
21:32 < papegaai> Title: April 11th, 2017 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki
        (at masspirates.org)
21:32 < WhatsABarrelBom> I can write the code of conduct! O:)
21:34 < jokeefe> keeping it real and direct is always helpful
21:34 < WhatsABarrelBom> "Don't be an ass". done.
21:35 < jokeefe> sadly even that is not detailed enough for some
21:36 < jokeefe> Campaign Workshops -
21:36 < jokeefe> training on the 25th
21:36 < jokeefe> created a sign up form
21:37 < jokeefe> emailed to everyone
21:37 < jokeefe> will email potential candidates
21:38 < moses> question regarding planks
21:38 < jokeefe> yes
21:39 < moses> i knnow which ones i'd want to recomend we work out -
        is my suggestion sufficent or does it require like an argument of why
        this and not all the other ones
21:40 < moses> like is the poll sufficent
21:40 < moses> if so can we cross it off the list
21:40 < srevilak> I'd think the suggestion would be sufficient by itself.
        Anyone else?
21:41 < jokeefe> suggesions are good
21:42 < WhatsABarrelBom> suggestion is fine imho
21:42 < moses> do we have a statement for the press
21:42 < moses> a general one
21:42 < jokeefe> for the conference?
21:43 < moses> mhm
21:43 < moses> visa vie Press outreach
21:45 < jokeefe> haven’t written it
21:45 < jokeefe> would you like to write it, moses?
21:48 < moses> i only worry i don't have enough backround knowdlage
21:48 < moses> could i perhaps send a draft with some blank spots?
21:48 < jokeefe> go for it
21:48 < moses> great
21:48 < srevilak> thx!
21:48 < moses> when do you want it
21:48 < jokeefe> thank you
21:49 < jokeefe> right now we just need an announcement that it will
        happen
21:50 < jokeefe> take a look at
        https://falkvinge.net/2013/10/01/swarmwise-the-tactical-manual-to-changing-the-world-chapter-nine/
21:50 < papegaai> Title: Swarmwise - The Tactical Manual To Changing
        The World. Chapter Nine. - Falkvinge on Liberty (at falkvinge.net)
21:51 < jokeefe> it is helpful with this area
21:51 < moses> kk
21:52 < jokeefe> Local Surveillance Ordinances
21:52 < jokeefe> Not much change with Somerville or Cambridge
21:52 < jokeefe> Anything with Artlington?
21:53 < srevilak> nothing new in the last week
21:55 < jokeefe> anything else?
21:55 < srevilak> nothing here
21:56 < jokeefe> motion to adjourn?
21:56 < srevilak> aye
21:57 < WhatsABarrelBom> aye
21:57 < jokeefe> aye
21:58 < srevilak> will post transcript
21:58 < jokeefe> thanks all
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Latest revision as of 22:00, 11 April 2017

Review

Decisions/Endorsements

Projects

Conference

Campaign Workshops

Local Surveillance Ordinances

Projects On Hold For the Moment

Fundraising

Planks

Message board application

CCTV Camera Map

Looking at organizing a map-a-thon.

Together Boston Meshnet

MAAPL Fight Foreclosure Campaign

Upcoming Events


See: 2017 calendar

Participants

  • srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA)
  • jokeefe (James O’Keefe, Somerville)
  • WhatsABarrelBom (G, Lowell)
  • moses (Moses, West Tisbury MA)

Observers

  • davidd
  • papegaai
  • Techrev
  • igel

Summary

To Dos

  • Write to panelists. Make sure they're okay with proposed times. See if they'd like to retitle their panel.
  • Piratecon code of conduct
  • Decide which planks to work on during breakout groups
  • We'll need volunteers, esp for setup and registration
  • Press outreach
  • Alternate plans for streaming bandwidth?
  • Need to assemble list of stuff to bring. (Should be an etherpad floating around with last year's list)

Minutes

 
21:01 < srevilak>
        https://masspirates.org/wiki/April_11th,_2017_IRC_Meeting
21:01 < papegaai> Title: April 11th, 2017 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki
        (at masspirates.org)
21:01 < jokeefe> Thanks
21:01 < jokeefe> ahoy moses
21:02 < WhatsABarrelBom> A HOY HOY MATEYS
21:02 < moses> ahoy
21:02 < jokeefe> ahoy WhatsABarrelBom
21:03 < jokeefe> Agenda:
        https://masspirates.org/wiki/April_11th,_2017_IRC_Meeting
21:03 < papegaai> Title: April 11th, 2017 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki
        (at masspirates.org)
21:04 < jokeefe> thanks to srevilak for putting it together
21:04 < jokeefe> ids
21:04 < jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville
21:04 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA
21:04 < WhatsABarrelBom> G, Lowell
21:04 < moses> Moses, West Tisbury MA
21:05 < jokeefe> Anything to add?
21:06 < WhatsABarrelBom> nah not here
21:06 < srevilak> I have a couple of conference updates (when we get
        there)
21:06 < jokeefe> ok
21:07 < jokeefe> Nothing for Review or Decisions/Endorsements, so moving
        to Projects
21:07 < jokeefe> Conference
21:07 < jokeefe> srevilak?
21:08 < srevilak> Contacted most of the panelists to inform them of times,
        and ask about name changes
21:08 < srevilak> Times are okay.
21:08 < srevilak> There were several suggested name changes, noted here
        https://masspirates.org/wiki/PirateCon_2017_Topics
21:08 < jokeefe> I updated the conference page with the schedule
21:08 < papegaai> Title: PirateCon 2017 Topics - Mass Pirate Wiki
        (at masspirates.org)
21:08 < srevilak> jokeefe and I are going to CCB tomorrow morning at
9:00 for walk through, and to get a read on wireless signal
21:09 < srevilak> I have two streaming setups ready; one video, and one
        audio (as backup)
21:09 < srevilak> will be able to record both video and audio
21:09 < jokeefe> will update conference page with new names and speakers
21:09 < jokeefe> thank you
21:09 < srevilak> Kendra will not be able to attend, but she'd like to
        be videoconferenced in
21:09 < srevilak> So, we'll need a second laptop available for that
21:10 < srevilak> Finally I haven't heard anything from the second
        speaker in fake news panel
21:10 < srevilak> after meeting, will write a "can you confirm you're
        presenting" note to her
21:10 < jokeefe> thanks
21:10 < srevilak> I think that's all I have
21:10 < jokeefe> I reached out to Grace Ross about participating in
        Organizing for a Sustainable, Accountable Movement
21:10 < jokeefe> looks like a possibility
21:12  * srevilak looks at todo list from
        https://masspirates.org/wiki/April_11th,_2017_IRC_Meeting#To_Dos
21:12 < papegaai> Title: April 11th, 2017 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki
        (at masspirates.org)
21:13 < srevilak> Anyone interested in working on a code of conduct?
21:13 < WhatsABarrelBom> code of conduct? pffffffffffffffffffft. who
        needs that?
21:13 < jokeefe> I would be happy to help
21:14 < jokeefe> I can work on volunteers
21:14 < jokeefe> Need to email them
21:15 < srevilak> WhatsABarrelBom: ideally, wouldn't be needed.  But
        better to have something that says "don't be a jerk" in not so many words
21:15 < jokeefe> Aaron will call the list and invite people to it
21:15 < WhatsABarrelBom> ...........i see
21:15 < jokeefe> I am fond of “don’t be a jerk”
21:15 < srevilak> jokeefe: that's great
21:15 < WhatsABarrelBom> that's very subjective
21:16 < moses> do unto others is a good starting place
21:16 < srevilak> aye
21:16 < jokeefe> We also need to see if we need child care
21:16 < WhatsABarrelBom> so the framework by which to witch hunt people
        who we decide we dont' like anymore?
21:16 < WhatsABarrelBom> cause that's what will happen
21:17 < srevilak> WhatsABarrelBom: no, more like setting expectations
        for people to be civil
21:17 < moses> aye
21:19 < jokeefe> Working on press and looking for someone ot do a poster
21:19 < srevilak> thx
21:19 < srevilak> which planks should we focus on during the breakout
        session?
21:19 < srevilak> (There's a list at https://github.com/masspirates/planks
        )
21:19 < papegaai> Title: GitHub - masspirates/planks: A place to define
        the Massachusetts Pirate Party planks (platform) (at github.com)
21:22 < jokeefe> email poll or just use the topics list from the last
        poll:
21:22 < jokeefe> Pirate strategy	16
21:22 < jokeefe> Net neutrality 15
21:22 < jokeefe> Open government	15
21:22 < jokeefe> Organizing	14
21:23 < jokeefe> Running campaigns	14
21:23 < jokeefe> Surveillance and countersurveillance	14
21:23 < jokeefe> Proposing local legislation	12
21:23 < jokeefe> Building third-party coalitions	11
21:23 < jokeefe> Corporate power	11
21:23 < jokeefe> Copyright	9
21:23 < jokeefe> Filing FOIA and public records requests	8
21:23 < jokeefe> Income inequality	7
21:23 < jokeefe> Patents	6
21:23 < jokeefe> The war on drugs	6
21:23 < jokeefe> Environment	6
21:23 < jokeefe> Minimum wage	3
21:23 < jokeefe> then again not sure the list works right
21:23 < srevilak>  But aren't those presentation topics, more than
        platforms?
21:23 < jokeefe> yes
21:24 < srevilak> I'd kind of like to do something with (for example)
        https://github.com/masspirates/planks/blob/master/RightToSecureLivelihoodAndSocialParticipation.txt
21:24 < papegaai> Title:
        planks/RightToSecureLivelihoodAndSocialParticipation.txt at master ·
        masspirates/planks · GitHub (at github.com)
21:24 < jokeefe> email poll then?
21:24 < srevilak> email poll would work
21:25 < moses> aye
21:25 < srevilak> Or, we could do it in two phases at piratecon
21:25 < srevilak> phase 1: come up with a list of planks (areas that
        our platform should address)
21:26 < srevilak> phase 2: pick three (or so), and have a group work on
        each one
21:26 < WhatsABarrelBom> less is more if you want to capture the center
21:27 < srevilak> A friend of mine use to work for the LWV.  Their
        conference focused on deciding priorites for the coming year, and writing
        a statement about them
21:27 < srevilak> I'm hoping we can build some policies/goals from the
        ground up
21:27 < jokeefe> I like the email poll as it could draw people into
        the conference
21:27 < srevilak> ok
21:28 < jokeefe> would be good to have a post-conference plan for people
        getting together to continue the discussion
21:28 < srevilak> agreed
21:32 < jokeefe> moses, G any tasks you can take
        on? https://masspirates.org/wiki/April_11th,_2017_IRC_Meeting#To_Dos
21:32 < papegaai> Title: April 11th, 2017 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki
        (at masspirates.org)
21:32 < WhatsABarrelBom> I can write the code of conduct! O:)
21:34 < jokeefe> keeping it real and direct is always helpful
21:34 < WhatsABarrelBom> "Don't be an ass". done.
21:35 < jokeefe> sadly even that is not detailed enough for some
21:36 < jokeefe> Campaign Workshops -
21:36 < jokeefe> training on the 25th
21:36 < jokeefe> created a sign up form
21:37 < jokeefe> emailed to everyone
21:37 < jokeefe> will email potential candidates
21:38 < moses> question regarding planks
21:38 < jokeefe> yes
21:39 < moses> i knnow which ones i'd want to recomend we work out -
        is my suggestion sufficent or does it require like an argument of why
        this and not all the other ones
21:40 < moses> like is the poll sufficent
21:40 < moses> if so can we cross it off the list
21:40 < srevilak> I'd think the suggestion would be sufficient by itself.
        Anyone else?
21:41 < jokeefe> suggesions are good
21:42 < WhatsABarrelBom> suggestion is fine imho
21:42 < moses> do we have a statement for the press
21:42 < moses> a general one
21:42 < jokeefe> for the conference?
21:43 < moses> mhm
21:43 < moses> visa vie Press outreach
21:45 < jokeefe> haven’t written it
21:45 < jokeefe> would you like to write it, moses?
21:48 < moses> i only worry i don't have enough backround knowdlage
21:48 < moses> could i perhaps send a draft with some blank spots?
21:48 < jokeefe> go for it
21:48 < moses> great
21:48 < srevilak> thx!
21:48 < moses> when do you want it
21:48 < jokeefe> thank you
21:49 < jokeefe> right now we just need an announcement that it will
        happen
21:50 < jokeefe> take a look at
        https://falkvinge.net/2013/10/01/swarmwise-the-tactical-manual-to-changing-the-world-chapter-nine/
21:50 < papegaai> Title: Swarmwise - The Tactical Manual To Changing
        The World. Chapter Nine. - Falkvinge on Liberty (at falkvinge.net)
21:51 < jokeefe> it is helpful with this area
21:51 < moses> kk
21:52 < jokeefe> Local Surveillance Ordinances
21:52 < jokeefe> Not much change with Somerville or Cambridge
21:52 < jokeefe> Anything with Artlington?
21:53 < srevilak> nothing new in the last week
21:55 < jokeefe> anything else?
21:55 < srevilak> nothing here
21:56 < jokeefe> motion to adjourn?
21:56 < srevilak> aye
21:57 < WhatsABarrelBom> aye
21:57 < jokeefe> aye
21:58 < srevilak> will post transcript
21:58 < jokeefe> thanks all