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[11:51] <jokeefe> so how was ROFLCon?
[11:51] <SplendidSpoon> Awesome :D
[11:51] <SplendidSpoon> Put out some flyers on a few tables, put up some posters around MIT for the Film Fest
[11:52] <SplendidSpoon> Also met Vermin Supreme!
[11:53] <erixoltan> My wife is putting up posters today at Brandeis; sadly we've scheduled this thing just after finals end there.
[11:56] <SplendidSpoon> i see..
[11:57] <jokeefe> Thanks to you both.  i put some up in Cambridge and Somerville in places the rains won't get to them.
[12:02] <jokeefe> Agenda at http://masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=May_8th,_2012_IRC_Meeting
[12:06] <jokeefe> does it look ok?
[12:06] <SplendidSpoon> Looks good to me
[12:06] <erixoltan> yes
[12:06] <passstab> can we put something about working with the humble bundle?
[12:07] <jokeefe> sure
[12:07] <SplendidSpoon> What's going on with the Humble Bundle?
[12:07] <passstab> i know you said that was unlikely but if there is any way it could work it would be worth it
[12:07] <jokeefe> we'll get to that
[12:08] <jokeefe> Item 1. May 12th Film Fest Schedule
[12:08] <jokeefe> Cannot use Steamboat Willie due to copyright issues. What other kids cartoons can we use?
[12:09] <passstab> ok
[12:09] <passstab> blender stuff?
[12:09] <passstab> http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/movies/
[12:09] <erixoltan> I don't have another kids' cartoon but think we need them, and am certainly open to ideas.
[12:10] <jokeefe> those look cool.  are the free to use?
[12:10] <SplendidSpoon> Those blender movies look cool
[12:10] <passstab> some are
[12:10] <passstab> look at there sites
[12:10] <passstab> these are http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/blender-open-projects/
[12:11] <erixoltan> that's a great idea!
[12:12] <jokeefe> ok, looks like we have some reviewing to do.  erixoltan, you can get them, yes?
[12:12] <erixoltan> I will download all the free ones.
[12:12] <erixoltan> How do we make this decision - we won't meet again before the film fest.
[12:13] <erixoltan> I can show them to a group of kids and let them vote.
[12:14] <passstab> it looks to me like the blender open projects are the only ones that are "Free"
[12:15] <passstab> and of those big buck bunny is the only one for kids (imho)
[12:15] <passstab> depending on the age range
[12:15] <erixoltan> That's 10 minutes anyway, probably longer than the video it would replace.
[12:16] <jokeefe> yes
[12:16] <jokeefe> could use some more
[12:16] <passstab> oh
[12:16] <jokeefe> guess we can just dig and see what we get.
[12:16] <passstab> hit the suzane feastival links
[12:17] <passstab> at the top of the page
[12:17] <jokeefe> Sintel too maybe.
[12:18] <erixoltan> There's a lot of material here to review. but it does look worth it.
[12:18] <jokeefe> they are short
[12:18] <jokeefe> or unavailable ;-(
[12:19] <jokeefe> Next 2. Campaigns
[12:19] <passstab> ok
[12:19] <jokeefe> JP is waiting to hear back from Chelmsford
[12:19] <jokeefe> on the signatures
[12:19] <erixoltan> Wait I'm sorry, I have more on #1.
[12:19] <jokeefe> sure
[12:19] <erixoltan> Sorry.
[12:19] <jokeefe> no problem :-)
[12:19] <erixoltan> I can't seem to download Steal this Film 2. The torrent doesn't work for me.
[12:19] <erixoltan> Steal this Film 1 downloads fine.
[12:20] <jokeefe> I was able to download it.  Should I put it one a memory card for you?
[12:20] <erixoltan> That's great, is it 720p or better?
[12:20] <jokeefe> i think so.
[12:21] <jokeefe> or put it on drop box for you to get?
[12:21] <erixoltan> Lovely. Any way you can get it to me.
[12:21] <passstab> one more thing on the kids films
[12:21] <passstab> http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/movies/submit-a-movie/
[12:22] <passstab> sais the film submissions include a permission to use this elseware checkbox
[12:22] <passstab> someone should ask which those are
[12:22] <passstab> thatsall
[12:23] <jokeefe> thanks
[12:24] <jokeefe> erixoltan, let me see how big it is and if I can put it someplace for you to get i will.  otherwise I will put it on a memory stick and get it to you or SplendidSpoon
[12:24] <jokeefe> ok?
[12:25] <erixoltan> Sounds good.
[12:26] <jokeefe> So besides JP waiting for the sigs, he has gotten some press.
[12:28] <jokeefe> Next Item 3. Boston Pride
[12:28] <erixoltan> That's great news all around. Hope the signatures are all valid.
[12:28] <jokeefe> yes, crossing fingers
[12:29] <jokeefe> a. need to turn people out for it.  b. need to get insurance for the table.
[12:30] <jokeefe> I think calls would help with a.
[12:30] <jokeefe> can distribute list to folks to make calls.
[12:30] <erixoltan> Is this a list of MassPirates supporters?
[12:31] <jokeefe> yup
[12:32] <erixoltan> Have we ever done a phone calling effort before?
[12:33] <jokeefe> we no, but I have.  I can write a simple script.  we can also setup an event on Facebook and contact folks on twitter
[12:33] <jokeefe> put things up on the blog, etc.
[12:33] <erixoltan> How about the film fest?
[12:33] <jokeefe> sure
[12:33] <jokeefe> if we can do it this week
[12:33] <jokeefe> I can get contact info out tonight.
[12:34] <erixoltan> If multiple people work together, how do we know who has already been called?
[12:35] <jokeefe> we divide up the list.  I get A-G, etc.
[12:35] <erixoltan> That works.
[12:35] <erixoltan> If someone doesn't call, they have to at least admit to it in time for someone else to try.
[12:35] <erixoltan> lol
[12:35] <jokeefe> yes
[12:36] <jokeefe> sounds like a plan
[12:36] <jokeefe> Next item?  4. National Party stuff
[12:37] <erixoltan> The new officers ran their first PNC meeting on Wed nite. it was very well organized and we actually voted on stuff. Only state reps voted.
[12:37] <jokeefe> cool
[12:37] <erixoltan> The Tuesday #uspp meetings are now social, with no agendas, and an opportunity for new states to show up. Last Tuesday California showed up.
[12:38] <erixoltan> On Wednesday at the PNC meeting (#pnc), we voted not to interfere with the IT committee and force them to use WordPress instead of Drupal which they are now using.
[12:38] <erixoltan> we also adopted purple instead of orange as a suggested color (although it's not binding on states).
[12:39] <erixoltan> We passed a resolution that in order to participate in USPP committees, a person has to be a member of their state party or has to leave contact info for when one is organized in their state.
[12:39] <jokeefe> I wish the IT committee would just use a wiki, but so be it.
[12:39] <erixoltan> And some other minor things too - details escape me.
[12:39] <jokeefe> ok, thanks
[12:39] <erixoltan> they do plan to have a wiki.
[12:40] <erixoltan> The IT committee will unveil their new site tomorrow and ask for PNC approval.
[12:40] <jokeefe> i would hope so, but it strikes me that a wiki is perhaps the best tool for a loose coordination point for state parties.  Drupal has more overhead than wordpress.
[12:41] <jokeefe> are the notes posted anywhere?
[12:41] <erixoltan> I don't know, but they were emailed to the SAB list and I emailed the full transcript.

Revision as of 12:41, 8 May 2012

Agenda

1. May 12th Film Fest Schedule

2. Campaigns

3. Boston Pride

4. National Party stuff

5. Public policy questions to put on the Nov. 2012 ballot?

6. Humble bundle?

7. Anything else others want to bring up.

Quick Notes / Summaries Re Proposed Bills to be Discussed:

1. May 12th Film Fest

Cannot use Steamboat Willie due to copyright issues. What other kids cartoons can we use?

2. Campaigns

3. Boston Pride

4. National Party stuff

5. Public policy questions to put on the Nov. 2012 ballot?

Jamie didn't post a request for public policy questions due to CISPA & the film fest, but he damn well will this week!

Attending

  • jokeefe - James O'Keefe, Somerville
  • erixoltan - Erik Zoltan, Framingham
  • SplendidSpoon - Lauren Pespisa, Boxboro/Cambridge
  • Brady - Washington State
  • multiple observers including passstab & illunati1

Summary

1. Film Fest

Schedule by Hour

  • 3pm Sneeze Me Away (14) / Steamboat Willie (8) / ... / Copying is not Theft & All Creative Work Is Derivative (3)
  • 4pm - The $8 billion iPod (5) / Steal This Film 2 (44) / Drew Curtis; How I beat a patent troll /
  • 5pm - Open Source Cancer Research TED Talks (13) / Patent Absurdity (30) / Innovation in Fashion Industry TED talk (15)
  • 6pm - 6:30pm - Rick Falkvinge I am a Pirate TED Talk (15) / Government Crowdsourcing TED Talk (12)
  • 6:30pm - 7:00pm - break time
  • 7:00pm - 7:30pm - Pioneer One Eps 1
  • 7:30pm - 8:00pm - Otherworlds shorts? (Kitty Kitty, The Third Letter, ITD, Candy)
  • 8pm - 9:30pm - Night of the Living Dead

2. Campaigns

3. Boston Pride

4. National Party stuff

5. Public policy questions to put on the Nov. 2012 ballot?

Will post for questions. Details of the 2010 dates at http://www.sec.state.ma.us/ele/elepubpol/pubpol.htm

Meeting Minutes

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[11:51] <jokeefe> so how was ROFLCon? [11:51] <SplendidSpoon> Awesome :D [11:51] <SplendidSpoon> Put out some flyers on a few tables, put up some posters around MIT for the Film Fest [11:52] <SplendidSpoon> Also met Vermin Supreme! [11:53] <erixoltan> My wife is putting up posters today at Brandeis; sadly we've scheduled this thing just after finals end there. [11:56] <SplendidSpoon> i see.. [11:57] <jokeefe> Thanks to you both. i put some up in Cambridge and Somerville in places the rains won't get to them. [12:02] <jokeefe> Agenda at http://masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=May_8th,_2012_IRC_Meeting [12:06] <jokeefe> does it look ok? [12:06] <SplendidSpoon> Looks good to me [12:06] <erixoltan> yes [12:06] <passstab> can we put something about working with the humble bundle? [12:07] <jokeefe> sure [12:07] <SplendidSpoon> What's going on with the Humble Bundle? [12:07] <passstab> i know you said that was unlikely but if there is any way it could work it would be worth it [12:07] <jokeefe> we'll get to that [12:08] <jokeefe> Item 1. May 12th Film Fest Schedule [12:08] <jokeefe> Cannot use Steamboat Willie due to copyright issues. What other kids cartoons can we use? [12:09] <passstab> ok [12:09] <passstab> blender stuff? [12:09] <passstab> http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/movies/ [12:09] <erixoltan> I don't have another kids' cartoon but think we need them, and am certainly open to ideas. [12:10] <jokeefe> those look cool. are the free to use? [12:10] <SplendidSpoon> Those blender movies look cool [12:10] <passstab> some are [12:10] <passstab> look at there sites [12:10] <passstab> these are http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/blender-open-projects/ [12:11] <erixoltan> that's a great idea! [12:12] <jokeefe> ok, looks like we have some reviewing to do. erixoltan, you can get them, yes? [12:12] <erixoltan> I will download all the free ones. [12:12] <erixoltan> How do we make this decision - we won't meet again before the film fest. [12:13] <erixoltan> I can show them to a group of kids and let them vote. [12:14] <passstab> it looks to me like the blender open projects are the only ones that are "Free" [12:15] <passstab> and of those big buck bunny is the only one for kids (imho) [12:15] <passstab> depending on the age range [12:15] <erixoltan> That's 10 minutes anyway, probably longer than the video it would replace. [12:16] <jokeefe> yes [12:16] <jokeefe> could use some more [12:16] <passstab> oh [12:16] <jokeefe> guess we can just dig and see what we get. [12:16] <passstab> hit the suzane feastival links [12:17] <passstab> at the top of the page [12:17] <jokeefe> Sintel too maybe. [12:18] <erixoltan> There's a lot of material here to review. but it does look worth it. [12:18] <jokeefe> they are short [12:18] <jokeefe> or unavailable ;-( [12:19] <jokeefe> Next 2. Campaigns [12:19] <passstab> ok [12:19] <jokeefe> JP is waiting to hear back from Chelmsford [12:19] <jokeefe> on the signatures [12:19] <erixoltan> Wait I'm sorry, I have more on #1. [12:19] <jokeefe> sure [12:19] <erixoltan> Sorry. [12:19] <jokeefe> no problem :-) [12:19] <erixoltan> I can't seem to download Steal this Film 2. The torrent doesn't work for me. [12:19] <erixoltan> Steal this Film 1 downloads fine. [12:20] <jokeefe> I was able to download it. Should I put it one a memory card for you? [12:20] <erixoltan> That's great, is it 720p or better? [12:20] <jokeefe> i think so. [12:21] <jokeefe> or put it on drop box for you to get? [12:21] <erixoltan> Lovely. Any way you can get it to me. [12:21] <passstab> one more thing on the kids films [12:21] <passstab> http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/movies/submit-a-movie/ [12:22] <passstab> sais the film submissions include a permission to use this elseware checkbox [12:22] <passstab> someone should ask which those are [12:22] <passstab> thatsall [12:23] <jokeefe> thanks [12:24] <jokeefe> erixoltan, let me see how big it is and if I can put it someplace for you to get i will. otherwise I will put it on a memory stick and get it to you or SplendidSpoon [12:24] <jokeefe> ok? [12:25] <erixoltan> Sounds good. [12:26] <jokeefe> So besides JP waiting for the sigs, he has gotten some press. [12:28] <jokeefe> Next Item 3. Boston Pride [12:28] <erixoltan> That's great news all around. Hope the signatures are all valid. [12:28] <jokeefe> yes, crossing fingers [12:29] <jokeefe> a. need to turn people out for it. b. need to get insurance for the table. [12:30] <jokeefe> I think calls would help with a. [12:30] <jokeefe> can distribute list to folks to make calls. [12:30] <erixoltan> Is this a list of MassPirates supporters? [12:31] <jokeefe> yup [12:32] <erixoltan> Have we ever done a phone calling effort before? [12:33] <jokeefe> we no, but I have. I can write a simple script. we can also setup an event on Facebook and contact folks on twitter [12:33] <jokeefe> put things up on the blog, etc. [12:33] <erixoltan> How about the film fest? [12:33] <jokeefe> sure [12:33] <jokeefe> if we can do it this week [12:33] <jokeefe> I can get contact info out tonight. [12:34] <erixoltan> If multiple people work together, how do we know who has already been called? [12:35] <jokeefe> we divide up the list. I get A-G, etc. [12:35] <erixoltan> That works. [12:35] <erixoltan> If someone doesn't call, they have to at least admit to it in time for someone else to try. [12:35] <erixoltan> lol [12:35] <jokeefe> yes [12:36] <jokeefe> sounds like a plan [12:36] <jokeefe> Next item? 4. National Party stuff [12:37] <erixoltan> The new officers ran their first PNC meeting on Wed nite. it was very well organized and we actually voted on stuff. Only state reps voted. [12:37] <jokeefe> cool [12:37] <erixoltan> The Tuesday #uspp meetings are now social, with no agendas, and an opportunity for new states to show up. Last Tuesday California showed up. [12:38] <erixoltan> On Wednesday at the PNC meeting (#pnc), we voted not to interfere with the IT committee and force them to use WordPress instead of Drupal which they are now using. [12:38] <erixoltan> we also adopted purple instead of orange as a suggested color (although it's not binding on states). [12:39] <erixoltan> We passed a resolution that in order to participate in USPP committees, a person has to be a member of their state party or has to leave contact info for when one is organized in their state. [12:39] <jokeefe> I wish the IT committee would just use a wiki, but so be it. [12:39] <erixoltan> And some other minor things too - details escape me. [12:39] <jokeefe> ok, thanks [12:39] <erixoltan> they do plan to have a wiki. [12:40] <erixoltan> The IT committee will unveil their new site tomorrow and ask for PNC approval. [12:40] <jokeefe> i would hope so, but it strikes me that a wiki is perhaps the best tool for a loose coordination point for state parties. Drupal has more overhead than wordpress. [12:41] <jokeefe> are the notes posted anywhere? [12:41] <erixoltan> I don't know, but they were emailed to the SAB list and I emailed the full transcript.