May 9th, 2013 IRC Meeting

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  1. Committee Reports
  2. Flyer Status
  3. Events
    1. International Day Against DRM - May 3rd
    2. MiT8: Media in Transition Conference - May 3-5th
    3. Together Boston/Another World's Fair - May 18th
    4. Security BSides - May 18th
    5. March Against Monsanto, May 25th
    6. AnimeBoston - Hynes Convention Center, May 24-26th.
    7. Boston Pride Parade - June 8th
  4. Conference
    1. Flyers
    2. Speakers & Schedule
    3. Logistics
  5. National Affairs

Quick Notes / Summaries Re Proposed Bills to be Discussed:


  • jokeefe - James O'Keefe, Somerville
  • Bluestreak: Lucia Fiero
  • srevilak: Steve Revilak, Arlington
  • Kendra: Kendra Moyer, Arlington
  • SplendidSpoon - Lauren Pespisa, Boxboro/Somerville
  • black_van - Sevan
  • Joe: Joseph Guertin, Bellingham


  • illunatic
  • davidd: David van Deijk, Eindhoven, NL
  • Shidash
  • passstab
  • ageis
  • rocode



Need new fliers proto

Wake up the Earth Festival - May 4th

Together Boston Expo - May 18th?

Security BSides - May 18

AnimeBoston - Hynes Convention Center, May 24-26th

Boston Pride Parade - June 8th



Speakers & Schedule


National Affairs


Moved IRC meetings to 9pm instead of noon.

Meeting Minutes


jokeefe: Agenda at,_2013_IRC_Meeting [9:02pm] jokeefe: starting with ids - James O'Keefe, Somerville [9:02pm] srevilak: Pyrix amuses me. The just sent me an email, suggesting I check out a comment I wrote [9:02pm] SplendidSpoon joined the chat room. [9:02pm] srevilak: Steve Revilak, Arlington [9:02pm] Kendra: Kendra Moyer, Arlington [9:03pm] jokeefe: hi SplendidSpoon [9:03pm] SplendidSpoon: Lauren Pespisa, Boxboro/Cambridge [9:03pm] jokeefe: ummm… that would be weird, srevilak [9:04pm] srevilak: not weird. Just amusing. [9:04pm] jokeefe: Committee Reports [9:04pm] jokeefe: Sevan working on a location/time for a monthly get together [9:04pm] jokeefe: srevilak working on web site. [9:09pm] jokeefe: any other updates? [9:09pm] Bluestreak: Lucia Fiero, REDACTED... Sorry [9:10pm] Bluestreak: Posted a Facebook event for the IPM [9:10pm] jokeefe: hi Bluestreak, thanks [9:10pm] Kendra: Did anyone go to the MIT8 conference? [9:10pm] jokeefe: Alex at [9:11pm] Bluestreak: I had prior commitments. Disappointed to miss it. [9:11pm] jokeefe: Heard good things about it [9:11pm] jokeefe: now we know it exists, we can keep it in mind [9:12pm] Kendra: I gave a shout out to Mass Pirates at the Rally at City Hall for May Day and people seemed pretty happy about it. [9:12pm] Bluestreak: Glad to hear it! [9:12pm] jokeefe: yay! posted a picture of you speaking at it from another person. thanks [9:12pm] jokeefe: Bluestreak - any update on the flyer? [9:13pm] jokeefe: Would like to get some printed B4 Together Boston [9:13pm] Bluestreak: Dana has not gotten back to me. Jeanne said she would send the InDesign file, she has not [9:13pm] Bluestreak: The 1/3 page thing? [9:13pm] jokeefe: 1/3 page seems easier with our tight schedule [9:14pm] Bluestreak: I don't want to email more than once a day [9:14pm] jokeefe: lol [9:14pm] jokeefe: seems sensible. [9:14pm] Bluestreak: That might be seen as rude [9:15pm] jokeefe: thanks for keeping at it. I will price out a print run of a 1000. [9:15pm] jokeefe: Events [9:16pm] Kendra: What is Together Boston? I searched for it and could not find anything. Is there a link or something? [9:16pm] jokeefe: [9:16pm] SplendidSpoon: [9:16pm] jokeefe: electronic music fest [9:16pm] Bluestreak: We are only doing the Central Square event, right? [9:16pm] SplendidSpoon: Except not [9:16pm] jokeefe: all next week [9:17pm] jokeefe: yes [9:17pm] SplendidSpoon: yea it's like a festival but not really lol it's like a local thing [9:17pm] Bluestreak: On the 18th. Can you table with us, Kendra? [9:18pm] jokeefe: haven't heard about panels [9:18pm] jokeefe: will get an email out to folks and have a sign up site tonight. [9:18pm] Bluestreak: No one got back to me about getting involved in the panels. Not persuing it any longer. [9:18pm] jokeefe: yeah [9:19pm] srevilak: I registered for security B sides. I'll be attempting to schmooze on the 18th [9:19pm] jokeefe: International Day Against DRM was good. they had 22,000 signatures. small turn out. good folks. [9:19pm] black_van joined the chat room. [9:19pm] jokeefe: hi black_van [9:19pm] black_van: hey sorry i am late [9:19pm] Kendra: I can probably help out, I have weekends off. [9:19pm] Bluestreak: See I knew that SR, that's why I didn't ask you. [9:19pm] jokeefe: I'll be at sec8sides for some of it, when not at kids events or together [9:20pm] Bluestreak: That would be great, Kendra. [9:20pm] jokeefe: made some contacts at FSF [9:20pm] srevilak: Bluestreak: I knew you wouldn't forget. Just letting you know that I'd not forgotten [9:22pm] jokeefe: March Against Monsanto, May 25th [9:22pm] jokeefe: Boston event - [9:23pm] Bluestreak: I'm glad to see you can make it, Captain! [9:23pm] jokeefe: I don't see any conflicts with my family schedule [9:23pm] srevilak: Non-public facebook events make me sad [9:23pm] jokeefe: yes [9:24pm] jokeefe: need a protocol for that [9:24pm] jokeefe: distributed event listings [9:24pm] jokeefe: who else will be there? [9:24pm] Bluestreak: I will tell Dave Caputo to look for a MassPirate presence! [9:25pm] srevilak: I'm free on the 25th; just need logistics. [9:25pm] Bluestreak: Make sure you wear the hat. [9:25pm] jokeefe: 2pm boston city hall [9:25pm] srevilak: jokeefe: thx [9:25pm] Bluestreak: I wish I could go! Prior commitments again. [9:26pm] jokeefe: flyers at [9:27pm] Bluestreak: Getting a FB message from Joe G: "This is coming up for me in IRC [21:25] == #masspirates Cannot join channel (+l) - channel is full, try again later" Can anyone help him? [9:27pm] jokeefe: Boston Pride Parade - June 8th - Bluestreak, Joe and I are marshals [9:28pm] Bluestreak: So glad it's not me have technical difficulty for once. [9:28pm] feedbot: [Twitter] masspirates: Our #PirateCon2013 is on 6/29 in Boston. Registration & current speaker list at Looking for more speakers. - [9:28pm] jokeefe: should just add him? [9:28pm] Bluestreak: ? [9:29pm] Bluestreak: FB message him pls? [9:30pm] jokeefe: SplendidSpoon, you are an admin, would you up the limit on members? [9:33pm] SplendidSpoon: uh no idea how [9:34pm] jokeefe: sorry, distracted, my client isn't letting me loving explicitly [9:35pm] SplendidSpoon: I'm looking it up [9:35pm] jokeefe: thanks [9:35pm] SplendidSpoon: i don't know why I'm admin [9:35pm] SplendidSpoon: I know like 3 irc commands total [9:35pm] srevilak: SplendidSpoon: try /MODE #masspirates l 20 [9:36pm] SplendidSpoon: I'm not an op [9:36pm] SplendidSpoon: actually [9:36pm] Bluestreak: We have TOO MANY Pirates tonight. WIN. [9:36pm] jokeefe: [9:36pm] SplendidSpoon: not is jokeefe [9:36pm] SplendidSpoon: nor* [9:36pm] passstab: should i leave? [9:37pm] Bluestreak: lol [9:37pm] SplendidSpoon: We have no op it seems [9:38pm] passstab: illunatic, poke [9:38pm] srevilak: perhaps /INVITE foo, if we know which foo to invite [9:38pm] jokeefe: you logged in, SplendidSpoon? [9:38pm] passstab: i'll leave for now [9:38pm] passstab left the chat room. (Leaving) [9:39pm] SplendidSpoon: Yea [9:39pm] jokeefe: sigh. [9:39pm] srevilak: Does this mean that 4Q is 4k'd ? [9:39pm] Bluestreak: Growing pains. [9:39pm] Joe joined the chat room. [9:40pm] Bluestreak: We came up with another analog solution [9:40pm] Bluestreak: an observer left [9:40pm] Joe: /mode #channel -l [9:40pm] Joe: Will make it so there is no limit to users [9:41pm] SplendidSpoon: Yea but none of us have privileges [9:41pm] jokeefe: Boston Pride - 3 marshals, will get the word out we need people tonight. [9:41pm] Bluestreak: Cool! [9:41pm] SplendidSpoon: Why do you need 3? [9:41pm] Joe: Did you count me as one? [9:41pm] jokeefe: they want three [9:41pm] jokeefe: yes [9:41pm] SplendidSpoon: It was 2 last year [9:41pm] SplendidSpoon: What the hell that's annoying [9:41pm] Bluestreak: We are all set don't worry [9:42pm] jokeefe: well, 2 but we had another on paper, and deputized someone at the march [9:42pm] SplendidSpoon: Oh I see [9:42pm] jokeefe: Kit I think [9:42pm] SplendidSpoon: Yea I'd be going but I'm going to Moonrise Festival woot [9:42pm] jokeefe: we will miss you. <sniff> [9:42pm] Bluestreak: We'll miss you! [9:42pm] Bluestreak: GMTA [9:43pm] jokeefe: so what should our theme be? I threw out the idea of the surveillance cameras [9:43pm] jokeefe: could use the pirate ship as a pirate ship instead of the surveillance camera post [9:43pm] Bluestreak: I always feel like somebody's watching me. [9:44pm] srevilak: I liked the idea of surveillance cameras [9:44pm] jokeefe: like the idea of some dressed up as pirates and others as FBI/NSA who get chased around by the pirates [9:44pm] Bluestreak: LOL [9:44pm] Bluestreak: Hee hee [9:45pm] black_van: yeah sounds cool [9:45pm] Bluestreak: Turn the cameras on them! [9:45pm] srevilak: Hmm . trying to think about how one dresses up as big brother [9:45pm] Joe: ^^^ [9:45pm] Joe: Big brother is watching you [9:45pm] Bluestreak: Black suit black glasses [9:45pm] Bluestreak: Ear piece. [9:45pm] jokeefe: double plus good comrade [9:45pm] jokeefe: could do flyers that are big brother is watching you with a slash through it looking like it was vandalized by pirates. [9:45pm] Bluestreak: lol [9:46pm] Bluestreak: So... Dana again? [9:46pm] srevilak: Which reminds me. Need to pick up a pair of black leather pants [9:46pm] black_van: people will relate to this [9:46pm] jokeefe: ooh la la [9:46pm] Bluestreak: I love you guys! [9:46pm] jokeefe: if dana can. could put it out to folks [9:47pm] jokeefe: really pouring outside [9:47pm] Bluestreak: I will bring it up (gently) when he gets back to me about the other thing. [9:47pm] Kendra: how about the david byrne big suit from stop making sense [9:47pm] Bluestreak: I LOVE IT [9:47pm] jokeefe: BTW: figured out a way to keep the mast on without wires: clamps! [9:47pm] jokeefe: lol, Kendra [9:48pm] jokeefe: so the pirates vs snoops works, then? [9:49pm] Bluestreak: Dibbs on being a Pirate! [9:49pm] Joe: I think we should have a pirate walking with duct tape on their mouth. Then they break free from the people in black suits yelling about the surveillance state while the black suits re-silence the person [9:49pm] black_van: dibbs on NSA [9:50pm] Joe: anything along those lines would be good [9:50pm] Bluestreak: Ow. [9:50pm] Joe: obviously not real duct tape [9:50pm] black_van: going up and demanding information from people [9:51pm] Kendra: walk around and inconspicously peek over people's shoulders [9:51pm] Joe: Oh wow [9:52pm] Bluestreak: This is fun and all, but World [9:52pm] Bluestreak: s Fair in Central Square is next [9:52pm] Bluestreak: Some logistics? [9:52pm] jokeefe: could have them recording the crowd,, and the pirates get in their faces [9:52pm] Bluestreak: Before the meeting is over. [9:53pm] jokeefe: what time do we need to be at World Fair? [9:53pm] jokeefe: to setup [9:53pm] Bluestreak: What kind of cameras? [9:53pm] jokeefe: video [9:53pm] Bluestreak: I know that! [9:53pm] Bluestreak: I have have is a flip cam [9:53pm] jokeefe: whatever we can scrounge [9:53pm] Bluestreak: and a dinosaur [9:54pm] jokeefe: World's Fair: what time is setup? [9:54pm] Joe: We could buy fake surveillance cams off of E-bay. They are pretty cheap [9:54pm] Bluestreak: Well, it starts at noon [9:55pm] Bluestreak: OK sorry to disrupt [9:55pm] jokeefe: sounds good, Joe [9:55pm] Bluestreak: Finish Parade talk [9:55pm] jokeefe: So probably setup is 10-11am? [9:55pm] Bluestreak: Moving on? [9:56pm] Bluestreak: I doubt I can get there before 11 but I will try. [9:56pm] SplendidSpoon: Yea, doesn't take too long to set up anyway [9:56pm] Bluestreak: Need to find where to park [9:56pm] SplendidSpoon: There's a lot near there [9:56pm] jokeefe: to be clear, we are all paid up for it? [9:56pm] Bluestreak: I have a tent. [9:56pm] Bluestreak: 6 foot table [9:56pm] Bluestreak: chairs [9:56pm] SplendidSpoon: I think they provide the table [9:56pm] Bluestreak: chairs [9:56pm] jokeefe: I have banners [9:56pm] Bluestreak: Nope [9:56pm] SplendidSpoon: really? Where'd the table come from last time? [9:57pm] Bluestreak: They provide nothing but the sapce. [9:57pm] Bluestreak: This might be new this year [9:57pm] Bluestreak: The Eventbrite registration page was very clear. [9:57pm] jokeefe: it will be outside [9:58pm] Bluestreak: Yes, we are paid [9:58pm] Bluestreak: I double checked with Robin [9:58pm] SplendidSpoon: oh I see it's outside this year [9:58pm] SplendidSpoon: damn I wanna be near the stage [9:59pm] Bluestreak: I think they will assign us a spot? Pure conjecture. [9:59pm] Bluestreak: I can always ask Robin. [9:59pm] SplendidSpoon: yea probably [10:00pm] jokeefe: thanks for keeping on it, Bluestreak [10:00pm] Bluestreak: [10:00pm] black_van: gtg bye folks [10:00pm] jokeefe: good night, black_van [10:00pm] black_van left the chat room. (Quit: Web client closed) [10:00pm] jokeefe: Conference [10:00pm] Bluestreak: So I need strong backs in the AM [10:01pm] jokeefe: flyers on up [10:01pm] Bluestreak: I may be able to wrangle help from strangers in the PM [10:01pm] jokeefe: s/on/are/g [10:02pm] jokeefe: I can help with setup, but I will be at a soccer game in the later afternoon [10:02pm] Bluestreak: Thank you. [10:03pm] jokeefe: For the conference we have a keynote, lunch and it looks like five hour long sessions [10:04pm] jokeefe: we have two panels: crowd funding & open gov, maybe NDAA and one talk [10:04pm] srevilak: haven't heard back from wendy yet. I'll ping her agai [10:04pm] jokeefe: thanks [10:04pm] Joe: I can help with the setup [10:04pm] Bluestreak: My speaker idea didn't/hasn't panned out yet. [10:05pm] jokeefe: NDAA? [10:05pm] Bluestreak: Oh no Rich is a go [10:05pm] Bluestreak: I have another idea. Send good juju [10:05pm] jokeefe: ok. We need to find other panelists for it? [10:05pm] Bluestreak: Rich is all set for the NDAA panel. [10:05pm] jokeefe: sending good ju ju [10:06pm] Bluestreak: Oh. [10:06pm] jokeefe: Right, but is it just Rich or should we have others? [10:06pm] Bluestreak: OK I will work on NDAA panel, too. [10:06pm] jokeefe: thanks, would be good to have more voices. [10:06pm] Bluestreak: Rich could do it by himself, the man can talk [10:07pm] jokeefe: yes, I remember [10:07pm] Bluestreak: He needs to be counter balanced [10:08pm] jokeefe: I will add that as one of the panels then [10:08pm] jokeefe: Any other suggestions? [10:09pm] jokeefe: We have govt. surveillance, NDAA, open gov, crowdfunding [10:09pm] Kendra: Would it make sense to have a panel about CISPA, EPCA, and similar legislation that is being tossed around, or is it too late to add to the program? I'm assuming they will come up in these discussions. India just passed a widespread surveillace law. [10:10pm] jokeefe: who should we invite to it? [10:10pm] Bluestreak: Zombie surveillance bills that keep being rewritten [10:10pm] jokeefe: Greg Housh could be on it. [10:10pm] jokeefe: You wrote the article for the blog, you want to be on it Kendra? [10:10pm] Bluestreak: 2nd [10:11pm] Kendra: I can talk about CISPA and some recent developments with Obama trying to pass it through an executive order. [10:12pm] jokeefe: sounds good. [10:12pm] jokeefe: what should we call it? [10:12pm] Bluestreak: Good! [10:13pm] Bluestreak: The panel? [10:13pm] jokeefe: yes [10:14pm] Bluestreak: Legislating our on-line privacy away [10:14pm] Bluestreak: Creeping surveillance [10:14pm] Bluestreak: state [10:14pm] Bluestreak: The [10:15pm] Bluestreak: The Creeping Surveillance State. [10:15pm] jokeefe: what about trade treaties? TPP, TAFTA, ACTA? [10:15pm] srevilak: The United Surveillance State of America [10:15pm] jokeefe: ++ [10:15pm] Bluestreak: Same panel? [10:16pm] Bluestreak: Different panel? [10:16pm] jokeefe: alex wanted to do a talk called - Government Power in 2020 [10:17pm] jokeefe: sorry, yes different panel [10:17pm] Bluestreak: Regarding trade treaties? [10:17pm] jokeefe: yes, trade treaties - would allow us to bring in unions, greens, etc. [10:18pm] Kendra: It's basically a version of the same legislation without the same name. Give me a second I was reading about this today. It's safe to assume the internets are monitored at this point. It's a program called Enhanced Cybersecurity Services (ECS) . [10:18pm] illunatic: hello [10:19pm] illunatic: who needs le ops? [10:19pm] illunatic: [10:19pm] Kendra: I can speak about this. [10:19pm] You were promoted to operator by illunatic. [10:19pm] illunatic: k go! [10:19pm] illunatic: jokeefe [10:19pm] jokeefe: thanks! [10:19pm] You set a limit on the number of room members to 25. [10:20pm] illunatic: is ChanServ not an op bot? [10:20pm] You set a limit on the number of room members to 25. [10:20pm] jokeefe: thought it was [10:20pm] illunatic: so how are things going as of late? making use of the brief publicity that Iceland's recent win received? [10:22pm] jokeefe: so focused on things here [10:22pm] Bluestreak: Sorta. [10:22pm] jokeefe: thanks, Kendra [10:23pm] Bluestreak: I talk the Iceland wins up a lot in conversation! [10:23pm] jokeefe: ++ [10:24pm] Bluestreak: Things are happening this year illunatic [10:24pm] Kendra: I just talked to Socialist Alternative and they got 2500 signatures to put Seamus whelan on the ballot for City Council. They seem interested in how third parties are approaching running candidates. Are we talking about running candidates in any local elections? [10:25pm] Bluestreak: Not local, no. [10:25pm] jokeefe: looking to 2014. [10:25pm] Kendra: Might be conversation starter or discussion topic once we get through this round of events. [10:26pm] jokeefe: yes [10:26pm] jokeefe: we need a training session [10:27pm] Bluestreak: September? [10:27pm] Bluestreak: Too soon? [10:28pm] Kendra: From talking to them it's just standing around with a clip board, but it gets people talking. Also they were surprised at how they exceeded their goals in time and the number of signatures. I don't ecpect we would be prepared for the November elections here, but we should pay attention to how it's done. [10:28pm] jokeefe: july/august - hot and slow is a good time to start [10:29pm] jokeefe: how to to run videos are on my todo list [10:29pm] jokeefe: have some slides/video of my talk from the last conference [10:30pm] jokeefe: suggest we get the monthly meetings going, then start on candidate recruitment [10:30pm] jokeefe: Feb. 2014 is when nomination papers are available for state rep. elections. [10:30pm] jokeefe: town elections are the first half of every year. [10:31pm] jokeefe: so starting in july/august allows is to get a jump on those elections as well. elected town meeting is probably the easiest election to run in. [10:32pm] jokeefe: LP candidate recruitment guide - [10:32pm] srevilak: Hey all, I'm going to have to clock out for the evening [10:32pm] Kendra: nite steve [10:32pm] jokeefe: understood, night [10:33pm] Shidash left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:33pm] srevilak left the chat room. (Quit: leaving) [10:33pm] Kendra: Have we gotten through most of the agenda? [10:34pm] jokeefe: yes [10:35pm] jokeefe: motion to adjourn? [10:35pm] Bluestreak: 2nd [10:35pm] Kendra: yeah, i have to get up pretty early. I say let's adjourn. [10:36pm] Bluestreak: Great meeting. [10:36pm] Bluestreak: Kendra do you FB? [10:36pm] Kendra: OK Good night. [10:36pm] Kendra: No, I never used it. [10:36pm] Bluestreak: Meep! [10:36pm] jokeefe: all in favor [10:36pm] Bluestreak: Sigh OK [10:36pm] jokeefe: aye [10:36pm] Bluestreak: aye [10:36pm] Kendra: bye [10:37pm] Kendra left the chat room. (Quit: Web client closed) [10:37pm] Bluestreak: Night Captain. [10:37pm] jokeefe: miles to go before I sleep [10:37pm] jokeefe: good night [10:37pm] Bluestreak left the chat room. (Quit: Web client closed) [10:38pm] Joe: Goodnight everyone