November 14th, 2018 IRC Meeting

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Tech Meeting

  • We had our tech meeting last Sunday.
  • We decided on using Matrix and updated our instance of the client.
  • We created a main discussion group to go with the conference group and put them into their own community. We need to update the landing page of our instance to list the existing groups and tell people about it.
  • Looked at our Loomio instance. The free version is limited to 10 people and larger numbers of people are likely too expensive. The source code is available, but it probably won't work on one of our hosting orders. jokeefe has reached out the the Netherlands Pirates to see how they have used it and what other tools they are using.



12/16 Vigil to End Violence Against Sex Workers Protest

  • Flyering Sunday at the BAB/BU. What time?
  • Flyer/poster status
  • What are we recording at the flyering event?

H.R.6729 - Empowering Financial Institutions to Fight Human Trafficking Act of 2018

Video Newsletter

Regional Meetings


Topics for next one:


  • US S.1241 - Combating Money Laundering, Terrorist Financing, and Counterfeiting Act of 2017 - Approved our opposition to S.1241. Need statement (Joe)

Computer Donations

On hold until next week -

Other To Dos

FOSS Tutorials

Worcester farm group is interested in having some FOSS tutorials. Perhaps:

  • how to do basic labels in GIMP,
  • work through a few sample spreadsheets related to seed cost and
  • similarly applicable real-world situations, depending on the needs of the group

Basically how to do graph design & product management with open source tools. Malt will put together a one paragraph description of what we need and we can mail it out to ask pirates to help.


  • install a Matrix server (jokeefe)
  • email Loomio invite to supporters (jokeefe)
  • set up torrents for PirateCon videos (creynolds)
  • post remaining audio for PirateCon talks (srevilak)

Upcoming Events

  • 11/17-18, Boston Anarchist Bookfair, Boston University, Boston*
  • 11/20, 7-9pm, Mass MeshNet Tech Meeting, Industry Lab, 288 Norfolk St, Cambridge
  • 11/27, 7-9pm, Mass MeshNet Tech Meeting, Industry Lab, 288 Norfolk St, Cambridge
  • 11/28, 6-9pm, Somerville Cryptoparty, The Sprouts, 339R Summer Street, Somerville
  • Nov, Boston-area Chapter Meeting
  • 12/4, 7-9pm, Mass MeshNet Tech Meeting, Industry Lab, 288 Norfolk St, Cambridge
  • 12/9, 1-3pm, Tech Meeting, Somerville
  • 12/11, 7-9pm, Mass MeshNet Tech Meeting, Industry Lab, 288 Norfolk St, Cambridge
  • 12/16, Vigil to End Violence Against Sex Workers, Boston Police Headquarters, Boston
  • 12/17, Intl Day to End Violence Against Sex Workers, Boston
  • 12/18, 7-9pm, Mass MeshNet Tech Meeting, Industry Lab, 288 Norfolk St, Cambridge
  • 12/25, 7-9pm, Mass MeshNet Tech Meeting, Industry Lab, 288 Norfolk St, Cambridge
  • 12/26?, 6-9pm, Somerville Cryptoparty, The Sprouts, 339R Summer Street, Somerville


  • jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Somerville
  • Pirate_Joe: Joseph Onoroski, Lowell
  • DesmondRavenstone: Desmond Ravenstone, Boston (Roslindale)
  • igel: William Fleurant, Arlington
  • Malt: Sam capradae, Worcester


  • ChanServ
  • hvxgr




[9:02pm] jokeefe: Agenda:,_2018_IRC_Meeting
[9:02pm] jokeefe: ids
[9:02pm] jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Somerville
[9:02pm] Pirate_Joe: Joseph Onoroski, Lowell
[9:03pm] DesmondRavenstone: Desmond Ravenstone, Boston (Roslindale)
[9:03pm] igel: William Fleurant, Arlington
[9:03pm] jokeefe: Anything to add to the agenda?
[9:03pm] Malt left the chat room. (Client Quit)
[9:04pm] Pirate_Joe: Just about the video news letter on SWR
[9:04pm] jokeefe: Should be on the agenda
[9:04pm] Pirate_Joe: For some reason, I thought the vigil was this week
[9:04pm] jokeefe: Review
[9:04pm] DesmondRavenstone: Have a link for a video from a South African SWR group for folks to see:
[9:04pm] Malt joined the chat room.
[9:05pm] Malt: Hi pals
[9:05pm] Pirate_Joe: Ahoy Malt
[9:05pm] jokeefe: hi
[9:05pm] jokeefe: Tech Meeting
[9:05pm] Malt: Sam capradae, Worcester
[9:05pm] jokeefe: I put the notes up.
[9:06pm] jokeefe: It was successful meeting
[9:06pm] Malt: Nice!
[9:06pm] jokeefe: The new discussion list is at
[9:07pm] jokeefe: The lists will be contained in the community:
[9:08pm] jokeefe: I’ll update our page soon
[9:08pm] igel: i've found there is a bridge on (i think its related to
[9:08pm] jokeefe: thanks
[9:08pm] jokeefe: still looking for a decision making/voting system. have some possibilities to take a look at
[9:09pm] jokeefe: Projects
[9:09pm] jokeefe: 12/16 Vigil to End Violence Against Sex Workers Protest
[9:09pm] jokeefe: What time do we want to flyer on Sunday?
[9:10pm] DesmondRavenstone: Is the flyering at BU book fair, Boston Common, or elsewhere?
[9:10pm] Malt: I posted poetry slam dates
[9:10pm] jokeefe: Was thinking of the Book fair
[9:10pm] jokeefe: we can do the common another day was my thought
[9:11pm] DesmondRavenstone: OK. If you can email me doc of flyer, I can post in cafes etc.
[9:11pm] jokeefe: will do
[9:11pm] Pirate_Joe: How much?
[9:11pm] Pirate_Joe: Did it cost?
[9:12pm] jokeefe: did you get a chance to write a shorter version?
[9:12pm] Malt: Forward me a copy?
[9:12pm] jokeefe: Will do
[9:12pm] jokeefe: Will get it printed soon.
[9:12pm] DesmondRavenstone: Have not. Idea for 1/4 or 1/2 page -- graphic on one side, text on the other.
[9:12pm] jokeefe: ok
[9:13pm] Pirate_Joe: Free to print due to it being your pc?
[9:13pm] jokeefe: or at least an in-kind contribution
[9:13pm] Malt:
[9:14pm] Malt: Sorry
[9:14pm] igel: haa 
[9:14pm] jokeefe: What time Sunday for the flyering?  2:30-4:30pm work?
[9:15pm] Pirate_Joe: Works for me
[9:17pm] jokeefe: 2:30-4:30pm it is
[9:18pm] Pirate_Joe: Starting location?
[9:19pm] jokeefe: Front entrance. would be my thought, though I won’t be able to get there until 2:45 since I have to give a talk until 2:30pm
[9:19pm] jokeefe: Keep your bytes secure from prying spies -
[9:19pm] Malt: Awesome!
[9:19pm] Malt: That's definitely the right crowd
[9:20pm] igel: i've got to step away from keys for a min or 10, i'll hopefully be back soon
[9:21pm] jokeefe: ok
[9:21pm] Malt left the chat room. (Quit:
[9:22pm] Malt joined the chat room.
[9:22pm] jokeefe: I’ll bring a camcorder and tripod and we can record interviews
[9:23pm] Pirate_Joe: Sound good
[9:23pm] Malt left the chat room. (Client Quit)
[9:24pm] jokeefe: H.R.6729 - will post another blog post about it. and include it in social media/emails
[9:24pm] DesmondRavenstone: super
[9:25pm] Malt joined the chat room.
[9:25pm] jokeefe: Video Newsletter - Joe?
[9:26pm] Pirate_Joe: We came up with a few videos we want to focus on in the next week or so.
[9:26pm] Pirate_Joe: One being on SWR with Desmond and Jamie so that we can more discussion time on why this is such an important issue.
[9:27pm] jokeefe: record Sunday, then?
[9:27pm] Pirate_Joe: There were a few talks that needed review on SWR that should also be touched upon as well that Desmond can also help discuss.
[9:28pm] DesmondRavenstone: We can talk about focus on privacy, workers rights, and open/accountable govt (police & justice system)
[9:28pm] Pirate_Joe: Or even what would be the best possible situation for all parties involved.
[9:29pm] Pirate_Joe: We also touched upon another topic but it seems I failed to save my notes....
[9:29pm] DesmondRavenstone: Yes. Decrim helps SWers most, but also clients, families of SWers, communities (by refocusing police priorities etc)
[9:29pm] Pirate_Joe: O, here we go
[9:30pm] Pirate_Joe: I wanted to do another video on the election results and what it means to us plebs
[9:30pm] Malt: Wait till the counts are done?
[9:31pm] Pirate_Joe: There is no urgency on the second video, though we could do a video on why the counts are still being done.
[9:31pm] Pirate_Joe: squish out a small 5 minute video just on that topic.
[9:32pm] DesmondRavenstone: IMHO the fact that vote counts are still going on is a major issue to discuss (tech for voting, winner-take-all systems, etc)
[9:32pm] jokeefe: agreed
[9:32pm] jokeefe: and the court case in Maine over IRC
[9:32pm] Pirate_Joe: ^
[9:32pm] jokeefe: IRV
[9:32pm] jokeefe: let’s see what we can record Sunday
[9:33pm] DesmondRavenstone: Joe perhaps you & I could talk about 1-on-1 interview re SWR?
[9:33pm] DesmondRavenstone: Later in the week via email
[9:34pm] Pirate_Joe: I would be happy to. Typically I form the questions first and let you have them before the interview so that all details of response are easy enough to ensure accuracy.
[9:35pm] DesmondRavenstone: excellent
[9:35pm] Pirate_Joe: The last thing we want to do as a policial party is to spew forth misinformation or 'fire from the hip' as the saying goes.....
[9:35pm] Pirate_Joe: there is currently enough of that going on.
[9:35pm] jokeefe: aye to that
[9:35pm] DesmondRavenstone: In the White House
[9:36pm] DesmondRavenstone: I promise not to have an intern try to take your mic, Joe'
[9:36pm] Pirate_Joe: Depends on how cute the intern is <3
[9:36pm] jokeefe: no
[9:36pm] Malt: Karate chop!
[9:36pm] DesmondRavenstone: Hey, hands off!
[9:37pm] DesmondRavenstone: Hands off the pretty intern!
[9:37pm] igel: yello
[9:37pm] Pirate_Joe: I promise nothing for them spanish ladies
[9:37pm] jokeefe: moving on
[9:37pm] Pirate_Joe: lol, sorry
[9:37pm] igel: ?
[9:37pm] jokeefe: Regional Meetings - Will put a call out in the next email for people to organize them
[9:37pm] Pirate_Joe: WB Igel
[9:38pm] jokeefe: No progress on the others, unfortunately
[9:38pm] jokeefe: Newsletter - working on next one. will have out by Thu/Fri
[9:38pm] jokeefe: things to put in it?
[9:39pm] Pirate_Joe: I have one request
[9:39pm] jokeefe: ok
[9:39pm] jokeefe: fire when ready
[9:40pm] Pirate_Joe:
[9:40pm] Pirate_Joe: I would like to motion to do a drive for this group
[9:41pm] DesmondRavenstone: Is that a "hands outstretched" motion? (sorry, couldn't resist)
[9:42pm] Pirate_Joe: Specifically for food items but people can donate anything that they will accept.  It is a warehouse that support a large number of other shelters and families so during the holiday season it's a good way to get out there.
[9:43pm] jokeefe: So computers?
[9:44pm] Pirate_Joe: They don't take computers, prob due to the fact that they do not want to have a tech on hand to repair them if needed or they were more hassle than they are worth
[9:44pm] Pirate_Joe: But they do take gaming consoles.
[9:44pm] jokeefe: no computer donations -
[9:45pm] igel: backpacks are always good to donate for kids
[9:45pm] Pirate_Joe: Anything for babies goes really quick though
[9:45pm] jokeefe: Is this specifically Merrimack Valley or statewide?
[9:46pm] igel: oh, im lookin at the.. i think wrong thing
[9:46pm] Pirate_Joe: It started here but if we can generate enough interest perhaps they can get the funding to go state wide.
[9:47pm] Pirate_Joe: Yeah, it's not make a wish, this is for battered families, homeless shelters and food pantries in the area. Just looking to push this as a one time project or even just get people to be aware of it for the holidays to we can pay back karma a bit.
[9:48pm] Pirate_Joe: A good deed goes a long way in proving that we are more than computer wizards.
[9:49pm] Pirate_Joe: well, some of us are more wizardly than others
[9:49pm] jokeefe: I have no problem asking supporters to help them, I just don’t have the bandwidth to write up the statement.
[9:51pm] Pirate_Joe: I figured this is something that I would be doing the statement for if we are all in favor
[9:51pm] DesmondRavenstone: OK folks, changing subject to a quick question ...
[9:51pm] DesmondRavenstone: Wish Project -- I support sending word out for folks to donate
[9:52pm] Pirate_Joe: So we have a second on it. All in favor?
[9:52pm] Pirate_Joe: Aye
[9:52pm] DesmondRavenstone: Aye
[9:52pm] jokeefe: Do you have a question DesmondRavenstone?
[9:53pm] DesmondRavenstone: Not related to Wish Project … With the holiday next week, should we skip 11/21 IRC?
[9:54pm] jokeefe: thanks for clarifying
[9:54pm] jokeefe: Any other votes on including a note about the wish project?
[9:54pm] Pirate_Joe: Jamie, Malt, Igel? Do you favor our support of this or nay?
[9:55pm] jokeefe: I am fine with it. Would be good to list other related charities in other parts of the state, but we could ask for suggestions.
[9:56pm] jokeefe: any objections?
[9:57pm] Malt: I support
[9:57pm] Malt: No objections
[9:57pm] Malt: What do you need me to do?
[9:58pm] Pirate_Joe: If you could find something similar for your area
[9:58pm] jokeefe: ok, motion passes. Pirate_Joe, send me the statement when you can. doesn’t need to be long
[9:58pm] jokeefe: So, to DesmondRavenstone’s point. Should we meet the day before Thanksgiving?
[9:59pm] Pirate_Joe: There is not a timeline of this, but would suggest any information could be sent to Jamie or me and I will use it to compile a list of places to support without getting spammed to death.
[9:59pm] Malt: I might be traveling
[9:59pm] Pirate_Joe: I am against it. Or the day after as well
[10:00pm] DesmondRavenstone: I think skipping one week won't hurt us, so next IRC for 11/28
[10:01pm] Malt: See ya then!
[10:01pm] Pirate_Joe: We are at time unfortunately.
[10:01pm] jokeefe: I have no objections to not meeting next week.  That seems to be what everyone is saying
[10:01pm] jokeefe: .
[10:02pm] DesmondRavenstone: And motion to adjourn this meeting
[10:02pm] Pirate_Joe: I second
[10:02pm] jokeefe: 11/28 will be the next meeting then
[10:02pm] jokeefe: aye
[10:02pm] DesmondRavenstone: aye
[10:02pm] Pirate_Joe: Aye
[10:02pm] jokeefe: have a good night all. See you Sunday.
[10:02pm] Pirate_Joe: Good night everyone
[10:02pm] jokeefe: Will post the notes