April 22nd, 2020 IRC Meeting
- 1 Review
- 2 Decisions/Endorsements
- 3 Projects
- 4 Tabled Projects
- 5 Upcoming Events
- 6 Participants
- 7 Summary
- 8 Minutes
Goals for Q3 2020:
- Organize meetups
- Organize Fundraiser
- Organize candidate trainings
- Revise platform
All meetings on hold due to Covid-19.
- Boston (jokeefe)
- Worcester (Malt)
- Lowell (Joe)
- Boston Pride Festival (emailed them that we transferred our table to 2021)
- table booked
- setup signup sheet
- Need to purchase insurance
- Need volunteer sign up form
- Tie to an activity, mapping the CCTV cameras in Boston or along the Pride parade route?
- Next pirate news recording scheduled for Sunday, 7pm unless changed
- srevilak/jokeefe working on sign up form.
- Joe Location still being worked on.
No clue where things are now due to the COVID-19 pandemic.
Right to Repair
- out of committee
- next email will urge supporters to call their state senator/rep. and urge them to support it
- see if people willing to setup meeting with reps.
Facial Recognition and other bills still in committee.
Moved to 2020 Platform Discussion
Democracy and Dogfood (Tech)
Boston Sex Worker Petition
Worcester farm group is interested in having some FOSS tutorials. Perhaps:
- how to do basic labels in GIMP,
- work through a few sample spreadsheets related to seed cost and
- similarly applicable real-world situations, depending on the needs of the group
Basically how to do graph design & product management with open source tools. Malt will put together a one paragraph description of what we need and we can mail it out to ask pirates to help.
- 4/29, 7-9pm, Boston Cryptoparty, Encuentro 5, Boston
- Summer 2020, ?, Boston Meetup
- Summer 2020, ?, Worcester Meetup
- Summer 2020, ?, Springfield Meetup
- ?/?, 7-9pm, Mass MeshNet Tech Meeting, Culture House, Harvard Square
- ?/?, 7-9pm, Mass MeshNe Tech Meeting, Encuentro 5, Boston
- ?/?, 7-9pm, Mass MeshNet Tech Meeting, Democracy Center, Cambridge
- ?/?, 7-9pm, Mass MeshNet Tech Meeting
- 5/?, 2pm-4pm, Democracy and Dogfood (Tech) Meeting, on-line
- jokeefe (James O’Keefe, Somerville)
- srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington)
- Malt (sam capradae, worcester)
- Joe (Joseph, Onoroski, Lowell)
Malt considering reaching out to folks in Worcester, re: computer drive. Lots of discussion about how to safely handle hardware that might have come in contact with the virus. We decide to reach out to local mutual aid working groups, and offer assistance with computer donations. Rules for donations: https://pad.riseup.net/p/RulesForDonations. Steve to do civi form for donations.
21:02 <@jokeefe> Ahoy 21:02 <@jokeefe> Agenda: https://masspirates.org/wiki/April_22nd,_2020_IRC_Meeting, but really just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing 21:02 <@jokeefe> ahoy cparker[p] 21:02 <@jokeefe> Agenda: https://masspirates.org/wiki/April_22nd,_2020_IRC_Meeting, but really just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing 21:02 <@jokeefe> ids please 21:02 <@jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville 21:03 < Joe> Joseph Onoroski, Lowell 21:03 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington 21:04 <@jokeefe> Anything to add? 21:04 < Malt> a 21:04 < Malt> sam capradae, worcester 21:05 < Malt> hi cparker 21:05 < Malt> i actually had something i wanted to add 21:05 < Malt> about Joe's PC cleanup service idea 21:05 <@jokeefe> ok 21:05 <@jokeefe> shoot 21:06 < Malt> we can do that after the 21:06 < Malt> ok, I've noticed some requests coming through the mutual aid group for working PCs/laptops 21:06 < Malt> I think reaching out to the Boston/Worcester group to offer assistance with a PC pickup and cleanup drive isn't a terrible idea 21:07 < Malt> if that's something they want to undertake 21:07 < Malt> both for kids in distance ed but also people trying to look for work 21:07 < Malt> aw joe it's not THAT bad an idea :P 21:07 < Malt> welcome back! 21:08 < Malt> that was it! 21:08 < Malt> that was my idea 21:08 <@jokeefe> What is involved with cleaning computers? 21:08 < srevilak> compressed air 21:08 < Malt> lol 21:08 < srevilak> lots of compressed air 21:08 < Malt> i was thinking wiping data 21:08 < Malt> checking for rootkits or other nasties 21:08 <@jokeefe> I was thinking clorox 21:08 < Malt> updating the OS to whatever the most current of their obsolete version is 21:08 < Malt> that too 21:09 < Joe> they really want computers up here as well but I have not had any success in securing a location for a drop off. We could just offer our time for PC repairs. 21:09 < srevilak> you might want to consider installing linux (and wiping drive in the process) 21:09 < Joe> Maybe do it for donations to the party? 21:11 < Malt> not a bad idea 21:11 < Malt> donations or access to the folks in the group 21:11 <@jokeefe> We can ask for donations, but I am concerned about pickup, cleaning and distribution 21:11 < Malt> "we'll help you do this if you let us advertise this group call for recruiting people interested in 3rd parties" 21:12 < Malt> for pickup i think we can do it delivery style 21:12 < Malt> we pull up, they set the stuff outside, we give it a cursory wipedown while wearing masks and gloves 21:13 < srevilak> For pickup, we probably have to do interview questions ("do you have flu-like symptoms") 21:13 < Malt> then we trust the mutual aid working group for distribution 21:13 < Joe> At this point, it would have to be on an individual basis. Covid-19 has a shelf life of 3 days so if we had a place to store them for that time period we should be ok. 21:13 < Malt> i think the insides of the computers prolly aren't much of a risk for contagion 21:13 < Joe> Well, could we have them dropped off at the mutual aid locations directly, then after 3 days come in and repair them? 21:14 < Joe> I disagree Malt 21:14 < Joe> Computers are good with Air flow and this is an airborne virus. 21:14 < Joe> Best to be safe. 21:15 < Malt> if it's a spare machine which hasn't seen much use, though, it probably hasn't seen much exposure 21:15 < Malt> the aid groups don't have centralized locations, for the most part 21:15 < Joe> Fair enough 21:15 < Malt> fwiw you're not wrong 21:15 <@jokeefe> True, but 3 days wait won’t hurt anything. 21:15 < Malt> we could say "secure it in a plastic bag 3 days prior to pickup?" 21:15 < Malt> then spray down the bag 21:16 <@jokeefe> sure 21:17 < Joe> https://www.webmd.com/lung/how-long-covid-19-lives-on-surfaces 21:17 <@jokeefe> It doesn’t seem right to say “would you hold this stuff for us while we wait for nature to kill any potential virus they have” 21:17 < Malt> i was real fucked up at the start thinking 14 days was standard 21:17 < Joe> Correction, metal they are saying 5 days now. 21:17 < Malt> hrmmmm 21:18 < Malt> so, i think we're not out of bounds asking folks to bag stuff before pickup. we can ask them how long it's been bagged and wait the rest of the time 21:18 < Malt> if we needed a new thing to be doing 21:18 < Malt> what if, 21:18 < Joe> Ask them to put the date on it? 21:18 < Malt> this disease just ruins everything! 21:19 < Malt> it is the absolute antithesis of building popular power 21:19 < Malt> the capitalists could not have asked for a better plague 21:19 <@jokeefe> not wrong 21:20 < Malt> ok 21:20 < Malt> we reach out to the MAWGs 21:20 < Malt> say "if you have PCs people want to donate, bag and tag them, we'll make them safe for use" 21:20 <@jokeefe> I setup https://pad.riseup.net/p/RulesForDonations 21:20 < Malt> oh 21:21 <@jokeefe> Should we want to refine the rules 21:21 < Malt> wait did it just get deleted 21:21 < Joe> It's blank 21:21 <@jokeefe> No, I just created it. It will last for 60 days 21:21 < Malt> pffft ok 21:21 <@jokeefe> I deleted the boilerplate text they add 21:21 < Joe> ah 21:22 < Malt> that threw me 21:22 <@jokeefe> No worries. 21:23 <@jokeefe> BTW: The audio came through in the last recording. I updated the text and it is live. Also, put up a blog post for it. 21:23 < Malt> wewt! 21:23 < Malt> y'all can see what I'm adding, right 21:23 < Malt> ? 21:23 < Malt> @srevilak, i think linux might be beyond most folk 21:24 < Malt> i think there's also an issue with compatibility for a lot of online learning modules 21:24 < Malt> as nice as that would be :-/ 21:24 < srevilak> Malt: back in the day, I & some friends used to do linux installs at South End Tech Center 21:25 < srevilak> Ubuntu (in a variety that matched the hardware capabilities) was usually easy for people to pick up 21:25 < srevilak> mint as well 21:25 < Joe> I have a window cd though we will need to get keys for them. Or perhaps the share can get something else? 21:29 < Malt> if it comes down to janky windows keys vs ubuntu i'm all for ubuntu as long as the person who is recieving it knows what they're in for 21:29 < Malt> if y'all think it'll be okay i won't be a roadblock 21:30 < Malt> but when i got started online teaching, a lot of platforms were fairly browser specific 21:30 <@jokeefe> Will likely be faster. Would be good to install openoffice or other productivity tools 21:30 < Malt> oh totally 21:30 < Malt> this is a great OSS outreach opportunity 21:31 < Joe> More user friendly for those who do not compute often. 21:31 < srevilak> and there's no licensing stuff to worry about 21:31 < Malt> i mean i wasn't about to pay the man for any of this either way ;) 21:31 < Malt> we're helping people, that makes crime legal 21:31 < Malt> pffft that wasn't smart to admit on a public transcript 21:31 < Malt> hello me 10 years from now trying to run for office, hope that didn't torpedo your hopes! lmao 21:32 < Joe> lol, I wish that was the case. But we can not open the party to those whom would see us crushed. 21:32 < Joe> best to keep things above board. <3 21:32 < Malt> i think the only dude who wants to see us crushed fucked off to Super Happy Fun America? 21:32 < Malt> who was the pepe troll who quit shortly after i joined 21:33 < Malt> that guy 21:33 < Malt> anyway 21:33 < Malt> i don't want to make this more complicated than it has to be 21:33 < Malt> i think a friendly e-mail offering our assistance to the MAWG admins is probably a fine start 21:35 < Malt> I'd like to make a proposition: we e-mail the leaders of boston and worcester's mutual aid working groups to offer our assistance with the preparation of computers for donation 21:35 <@jokeefe> made a minor update to the text 21:36 < srevilak> Malt: sounds reasonable 21:36 < Malt> B) all in favor? 21:36 < srevilak> aye 21:36 < Joe> We can add Wish Project as well? 21:36 < Joe> Same thing but local for me. 21:37 < srevilak> Joe: fine by me 21:37 <@jokeefe> is there open source anti-virus software? 21:37 < Joe> avast is free 21:37 <@jokeefe> ok 21:37 < srevilak> clamav 21:37 <@jokeefe> works for me 21:38 <@jokeefe> So we need a sign up form. Do you have time, srevilak, or should I work on it? 21:38 < srevilak> For computer donations? It sounded like we were thinking more in terms of offering help to MAWGs. 21:39 < srevilak> (but perhaps I misunderstood) 21:39 < Malt> yeah, this would be a case by case deal 21:39 < srevilak> I can work on form 21:39 < Malt> the MAWG let's us know there's a PC up for grabs at X location, whoever is closest picks it up 21:39 < Joe> Sounds good 21:40 <@jokeefe> ok. Thought we would solicit donations from members at least 21:40 < Malt> we totally can 21:42 < Joe> and our twitter base! 21:42 <@jokeefe> true 21:43 < Malt> i'm sketching out an intro e-mail in the rules pad 21:44 <@jokeefe> thanks 21:46 < Joe> is there a national meeting tonight? 21:47 <@jokeefe> nope 21:47 <@jokeefe> canceled. WI won’t be there 21:47 < Malt> phooey 21:47 < Malt> did y'all see there are 7 COVID cases now linked to the elections? 21:47 < Malt> it kills me to admit it but Bernie did the right thing 21:48 < Malt> "Hello, I'm _____, a representative of the Massachusetts Pirate Party. We'd like to volunteer our services to clean and service donated computers. We will sterilize any donated computers, wipe personal information, upgrade their OS, and outfit the devices with the latest in open source productivity software, including word processors and internet b 21:48 < Malt> rowsers. 21:48 < Malt> In exchange, we'd like to invite interested members to participate in a group call about the Pirate Party, our mission, and how they could be a part of it." 21:48 < Malt> that's what I've got so far, any feedback? 21:50 < Joe> Seems good. Perhaps we should install Tor browsers only. <3 21:50 <@jokeefe> lol 21:50 <@jokeefe> Tor & Brave 21:51 < Malt> i won't stop y'all 21:51 <@jokeefe> I think we should just include a 1 page doc that says what we did to setup the computer, who we are and how to contact us. 21:51 < Malt> i'd just ask that we include like a README file placed helpfully at the center of the desktop which just explains what the programs are and how to update them 21:51 < Malt> @jokeefe exactly 21:52 <@jokeefe> Paper and doc on the desktop 21:52 < Malt> if we throw folks to the sharks they'll hate OSS 21:52 <@jokeefe> agreed 21:53 <@jokeefe> offering quick video training via jitsi would be good. 21:53 < Joe> We could do regular training classes if you like. 21:54 < Joe> maybe twice a month? 21:54 < Malt> i think there's probably videos which do the same thing 21:54 < Joe> true 21:54 < Malt> links to up to date FAQs not a bad idea, but sure include our e-mail 21:54 < Malt> it's a great way to get folks familiar with who we are 21:54 <@jokeefe> agreed 21:54 < Joe> but often the older crowd needs help and they often vote too 21:55 < Malt> that's true 21:56 < Malt> "Donated equipment will be collected by a volunteer of the Pirate Party and held until 5 days have transpired from bagging. Thereafter, any remaining data on the machine will be wiped, with a clean and current OS installed. 21:56 < Malt> Machines will come complete with open source internet browser, productivity suite, and antivirus. 21:56 < Malt> A brief document will be included on the desktop explaining the included software, as well as information on who we are and how to contact us for assistance. 21:56 < Malt> We are also interested in offering bimonthly video conferences for new users who might be having trouble with their new system." 21:57 <@jokeefe> sounds good 21:58 <@jokeefe> I’ll add it to the next email anc. 22:00 < Malt> welp 22:00 < Malt> bout that time 22:00 <@jokeefe> True. I haven’t made progress on other items 22:00 <@jokeefe> Shall we adjourn? 22:00 < Joe> 2nd 22:00 < Malt> aye 22:01 <@jokeefe> aye 22:01 <@jokeefe> thanks all! 22:01 <@jokeefe> stay safe. have a great night 22:01 < Malt> night! 22:01 < Joe> gn 22:03 <@jokeefe> you have the minutes srevilak? 22:03 < srevilak> got them 22:03 <@jokeefe> thanks