August 14th, 2014 IRC Meeting
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- TOUCHFM appearance this tuesday morning
- Update on candidate status, campaign strategies
- Freedom Not Fear, September, 26-29th?
- PirateCon 2015
- Aug 16th. Justice for Michael Brown Rally, Copley Square Boston 2pm. https://www.facebook.com/events/555493047905868/
- Sep. 13-14 noon-8pm Freedom Rally, Boston Common Logistics
- Sep. 17, 6:30-9pm, Key Signing Party, MIT Building E-51, Room 325, Wadsworth Street, Cambridge
- Sep. 20, 9a-5p. Software Freedom Day. Industry Lab 288 Norfolk Street, Cambridge, MA. We're doing a cryptoparty from 10:30 - noon.
- Sep. 26th. DMC in-person meeting. 4pm?
- Sep. 26-29, Freedom Not Fear wiki
- May 6, 2015. International Day against DRM.
- jokeefe (James O'Keefe, Somerville)
- srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA)
- Bluelustreak (Lucia Fiero)
- igel (William Fleurant, Arlington MA)
- Potential topics for interview: Pirate party, net neutrality, municipal broadband. We'll have conf call over the weekend to hash out questions. Brainstorming: https://piratenpad.de/p/4iIxeGYJ3Hr
- Candidates summary. No new news to report.
- Freedom not fear. We vote to do something. Leafletting? Pad for developing flyer text: https://piratenpad.de/p/freedom-not-fear. Perhaps Fields Corner, Park Street, or Haymarket?
21:00 < jokeefe> ahoy! 21:00 < jokeefe> agenda at https://masspirates.org/wiki/August_14th,_2014_IRC_Meeting 21:00 < jokeefe> did I miss anything? 21:01 < srevilak> jokeefe: I think you got everything 21:01 < igel> lo 21:01 < srevilak> igel: howdy 21:03 < igel> whats new whats new. we could -s the chan, if we had ops. 21:03 < jokeefe> hi igel 21:04 < jokeefe> yes, good idea 21:04 < jokeefe> agenda is at https://masspirates.org/wiki/August_14th,_2014_IRC_Meeting 21:04 < jokeefe> ids - James O'Keefe, Somerville 21:04 < Bluelustreak> Lucia Fiero Medwya 21:04 < Bluelustreak> derp 21:04 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA 21:04 < Bluelustreak> Zzzzzzz 21:05 < igel> William Fleurant, Arlington MA 21:05 < Bluelustreak> There was a Ferguson solidarity demo today 21:05 < Bluelustreak> and there is one Sat at 2 21:06 < Bluelustreak> Noe is going to that. 21:06 < Bluelustreak> I promised Jason we would do what he wanted this weekend 21:06 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: where's the Sat rally? 21:06 < Bluelustreak> AND we will have a guest, but I will ask them if they want to go to it 21:06 < Bluelustreak> One sec Steve 21:06 < jokeefe> Hope I can make it 21:07 < Bluelustreak> https://www.facebook.com/events/555493047905868/ 21:07 < jokeefe> TOUCHFM appearance this tuesday morning 21:07 < igel> aye 21:08 < Bluelustreak> Yes, I will be there, maybe Jason too 21:08 < jokeefe> You have the morning, Noe and I in the afternoon 21:08 < Bluelustreak> Yup 21:09 < Bluelustreak> I'm sorry can you excuse me a sec? I need to talk about this! 21:09 < jokeefe> sure 21:10 < jokeefe> Topics to bring up? 21:11 < srevilak> interview questions? 21:11 < srevilak> igel: wanna go on the radio on tuesday? Or TV? 21:11 < igel> haa i'll be taking finals :/ 21:11 < srevilak> igel: good luck! 21:12 < Bluelustreak> Sorry 21:12 < Bluelustreak> Jason called and he couldn't talk later 21:12 < igel> i would though :/ hmmmm 21:12 < Bluelustreak> Double shift 21:12 < jokeefe> break a leg, igel 21:12 < Bluelustreak> About Tuesday 21:12 < Bluelustreak> I want to go over what I will be talking about 21:13 < Bluelustreak> Prep with people other than the mirror? 21:13 < srevilak> we've been asked to submit some interview questions 21:13 < Bluelustreak> Can we coordinate a bit jokeefe? 21:13 < jokeefe> sure 21:13 < Bluelustreak> Conference call er sumpin? 21:13 < Bluelustreak> Over the weekend? 21:13 < igel> practice 21:13 < srevilak> does this deserve a pad? 21:14 < Bluelustreak> No 21:14 < Bluelustreak> Talking points need to be TALKED 21:14 < jokeefe> sure, phone would be good, you, me and Noe at least. 21:14 < Bluelustreak> Great 21:14 < srevilak> Yes, but questions need to be written and submitted :) 21:14 < Bluelustreak> Yes OK make a pad 21:14 < jokeefe> ahoy Kendra 21:14 < Bluelustreak> I meant that a pad is no substitute 21:15 < Bluelustreak> howdy 21:15 < Kendra> hi everybody 21:15 < srevilak> https://piratenpad.de/p/4iIxeGYJ3Hr 21:15 < Bluelustreak> It's a critically important point right now 21:15 < Bluelustreak> internet access, net neutrality 21:15 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: I don't follow 21:15 < jokeefe> thanks, srevilak 21:15 < Bluelustreak> Well you were there at SCATV 21:16 < Bluelustreak> Brother Charles is trying to serve hi community 21:16 < Kendra> Can you recap for me too 21:16 < igel> its air time, def important. 21:16 < Bluelustreak> FCC grants licences only to the same monied interests over and over 21:17 < srevilak> Kendra - SCATV was a panel discussion on net neutrality. SOmerville cable access TV 21:17 < srevilak> http://www.srevilak.net/wiki/Stop_Monopolizing_Our_Internet_-_7/12/2014 21:17 < Bluelustreak> The way around this is to broad cast on the net, BUT, people in poor areas can't afford broadband 21:17 < Bluelustreak> Remember when Cam D'Ambrosio's computer was seized? 21:17 < Bluelustreak> That was the only machine in the house! 21:18 < srevilak> re: net neutrality, I would say that Title II is what allowed the internet to become popular 21:18 < Bluelustreak> Exactly 21:18 < Bluelustreak> I think 21:18 < srevilak> phone companies had to carry dialup and DSL signals over their copper 21:18 < srevilak> (Title II = Common carrier classification) 21:18 < Kendra> i would argue that most people in low income areas have the internet package on the phone and are more likely to use internet that way 21:19 < Bluelustreak> This is why they were so eager to cut the copper to our house and we had to sign an agreement 21:19 < Bluelustreak> when we got fios 21:19 < Bluelustreak> MUNICIPAL BROADBAND 21:19 < Bluelustreak> Free software 21:20 < Bluelustreak> Have you watched the MSM about Ferguson? It's all cop heavy 21:20 < srevilak> so that's potentially four topic areas: pirate party, net neutrality, municipal broadband, and the elections 21:20 < Bluelustreak> Authority heavy 21:20 < Bluelustreak> no stories from the street 21:21 < Bluelustreak> Well, Lolita has said this is what she wants to talk about... 21:21 < Kendra> There an initiative here https://commotionwireless.net/, that our colleague Nat Mesyenburg help set up. At some point I intend to see how it is going. Another mesh network. 21:21 < igel> hmm 21:21 < Bluelustreak> But I am going to be on Charles; show and I haven't heard from him 21:21 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: I think Lolita does an interview segment on Charles show 21:21 < Bluelustreak> That is one way to go 21:21 < Bluelustreak> But the nodes cost a pretty penny don't they? 21:22 < Kendra> I guess my point is that wee need to be dropping the seeds about mesh networking more frequently. It can work. 21:22 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: jokeefe: will you send lolita a list of questions? 21:22 < igel> aye 21:22 < Bluelustreak> I need more info. Will I really wish you could come on Tuesday for that reason 21:22 < jokeefe> sure, once we have them 21:23 < jokeefe> questions that is 21:23 < Bluelustreak> In the meantime the people can provide themselves internet 21:23 < srevilak> jokeefe: thx. Just want to make sure someone sends the questions :) 21:23 < Bluelustreak> There is no reason the people can't VOTE themselves access to the wires and poles 21:23 < igel> plug meshbox and project meshnet, both homegrown in boston/mass 21:23 < igel> :P 21:23 < Kendra> Ok, so I will put a question on the pad along the lines or "Have you heard about mesh networking" 21:23 < Bluelustreak> Can I talk with you about this this weekend igel? 21:23 < Bluelustreak> Do you have time? 21:24 < igel> of course 21:24 < igel> i'll be hittin books and code, but.. of course. 21:24 < Bluelustreak> OK so can we... can you conference with jokeefe and Noe and me? 21:24 < srevilak> Kendra: these are questions for the interviewers to ask us 21:24 < igel> give me a time when ur ready and ill be there 21:25 < Bluelustreak> I will reach out to Charles and ask for an idea of what he wants to talk about. 21:25 < Bluelustreak> As well 21:25 < jokeefe> thanks 21:25 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: you may want to look over Lolita's messages (which I forwarded to activist list) 21:25 < Bluelustreak> We need to make this count. 21:26 < Bluelustreak> We are looking to recruit new Pirates 21:26 < Bluelustreak> I have been. Is there something new today? 21:26 < srevilak> Re: broadband, I have verizon's fiber cables run into my house. But I'd like to have someone else deliver the service 21:26 < Bluelustreak> We could make a case that we have all overpaid for services 21:27 < Bluelustreak> and are due access to the cables 21:27 < Bluelustreak> Unfair monopoly pricing 21:27 < jokeefe> aye 21:27 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: yes we could. Other parts of the world have faster and cheaper broadband 21:27 < Bluelustreak> Exactly 21:27 < Bluelustreak> Also Brother Charles hasn't heard of crowd funding 21:28 < Bluelustreak> I suggested he pay his FCC fine with it 21:28 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: I like that idea 21:28 < Bluelustreak> But now that he is an offender, it will be that much harder to get liscenced 21:29 < Bluelustreak> The point is, the technology exists that we can leave radio behind 21:29 < Bluelustreak> We just can't get that power to the people because of the power of the cable companies 21:29 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: perhaps not. Fines are the cost of doing business in America 21:29 < Bluelustreak> Things to talk about 21:29 < Bluelustreak> LOL 21:30 < Bluelustreak> Yes of course, but he doesn't have the lawyers big business has 21:30 < jokeefe> well, with a radio, all you need is a radio to receive the signal. computers are more expensive than computers. 21:30 < Bluelustreak> Yes, and the phone companies GIVE the phones away with contracts 21:30 < Bluelustreak> They are much more eager to get people hooked on things they can't compute on 21:31 < Bluelustreak> things that are all pay-to-play with the apps 21:31 < Kendra> Once he gets disentangled from the legal system he should just broadccast online, IMO. It's the future anyway. 21:31 < Bluelustreak> His FOLLOWERS aren't on line 21:31 < Bluelustreak> This is the point, how to get his audience all teched up 21:32 < srevilak> Kendra: the catch is, a lot of touchfm audience doesn't have broadband. But they did have terrestrial radio 21:32 < Bluelustreak> There is no reason the city of Boston can't provide cheap fast broadband to everyone 21:32 < igel> i'd like to think its not true, being i n massachusetts... 21:32 < Bluelustreak> No reason except: COMCAST 21:32 < igel> but obviously comcast. 21:32 < Bluelustreak> (and Verizon) 21:32 < igel> monopoly. 21:33 < Bluelustreak> We have democracy, this is our point 21:33 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: Verizon doesn't serve boston. Just comcast & RCN 21:33 < Bluelustreak> As for the machines... 21:33 < Bluelustreak> Thanks for that point 21:34 < Bluelustreak> This is why the talking is important... I would have made that mistake on air 21:34 < jokeefe> so lets figure it out over the weekend and contact them by Sunday. sound ok? 21:34 < srevilak> sounds good 21:34 < igel> how long on air? 21:35 < srevilak> I'm happy to join on the planning call 21:35 < Bluelustreak> So Friday night? Saturday morning? 21:35 < Bluelustreak> Thanks Steve 21:35 < srevilak> igel: 60 min on radio, 30 min on TV (I think) 21:35 < Bluelustreak> Up to you James 21:35 < Bluelustreak> When are you free for mentoring? 21:35 < Bluelustreak> You don't have to decide now 21:36 < Bluelustreak> think about it 21:36 < jokeefe> Update on candidate status, campaign strategies 21:36 < jokeefe> I don't have anything to report yet. 21:36 < srevilak> I guess we decide call time on activist list? 21:36 < Bluelustreak> Me neither 21:36 < Bluelustreak> Good idea srevilak 21:36 < jokeefe> yes 21:37 < Bluelustreak> If you help me with Joe and the EIN, James 21:37 < Bluelustreak> ... 21:37 < jokeefe> Next, do something for Freedom Not Fear, September, 26-29th? 21:37 < Bluelustreak> OK the 26th is the next DMC IPM 21:37 < Bluelustreak> Just so you know 21:37 < jokeefe> http://www.freedomnotfear.org/ 21:37 < Bluelustreak> DMC planning seems to have fallen to me, so I will be at that Friday 21:38 < jokeefe> when? 21:38 < jokeefe> what time? 21:39 < Bluelustreak> Too early for working dudes 21:39 < igel> haaa awesome 21:39 < Bluelustreak> 4pm I think 21:39 < jokeefe> With that much notice I think I can make it. 21:40 < jokeefe> So, do we want to do something for Freedom Not Fear? 21:40 < srevilak> I'd like to 21:40 < jokeefe> what? 21:40 < Bluelustreak> CRYPTO PARTY? 21:40 < Bluelustreak> LOL 21:40 < Bluelustreak> Demonstration? 21:41 < Bluelustreak> Leafleting? 21:41 < Bluelustreak> BUTTONS! 21:41 < igel> http://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/Freedom_Not_Fear_2014 21:41 < srevilak> I was thinking along the lines of leafletting 21:41 < Bluelustreak> When you give a woman a button maker every problems looks like it can be solved with a button 21:41 < igel> hahah 21:42 < srevilak> we can hand out buttons too :) 21:42 < Bluelustreak> Yay. I love buttons 21:42 < Bluelustreak> Oh! 21:43 < srevilak> Oh? 21:43 < Bluelustreak> Steve start a Pirate Pad for the text of our MPP FFF flyer 21:43 < Bluelustreak> I recommend 1/3 page dble sided 21:43 < Bluelustreak> (and buttons) 21:43 < srevilak> FFF? 21:43 < Bluelustreak> freedom from fear? 21:43 < jokeefe> agreed 21:44 < Bluelustreak> FNF 21:44 < Bluelustreak> oops 21:44 < Bluelustreak> Zzzzzzz 21:44 < srevilak> https://piratenpad.de/p/freedom-not-fear 21:44 < Bluelustreak> Thanks! 21:45 < Kendra> Might want to offer some commentary on the latest police antics (at all of these events) while you are at it. The police militarization and surveillace issues are all intertwined. It will come up. 21:45 < jokeefe> yes 21:45 < srevilak> Kendra: good topic 21:45 < Bluelustreak> I will make FB event pages for our appearances Tuesday 21:45 < jokeefe> thank you 21:45 < jokeefe> so all in favor of doing an event for Freedom Not Fear, say aye 21:46 < Bluelustreak> One event page for both, or tow separate? 21:46 < Kendra> Aye 21:46 < Bluelustreak> aye 21:46 < Kendra> separate events, people get confused 21:46 < jokeefe> yes 21:46 < srevilak> aye on freedom not fear 21:46 < jokeefe> aye 21:47 < jokeefe> any opposed? 21:48 < srevilak> In terms of leafletting for FNF, how about Dorchester or Roxbury, rather than Somerville or back bay? 21:48 < jokeefe> motion passes 21:48 < srevilak> or maybe not ... 21:48 < Kendra> I agree, maybe even have a couple of teams if enough people are around. 21:48 < Bluelustreak> Fields Corner? 21:49 < Kendra> Even Park Stree has a lot more of a mix of people 21:49 < Bluelustreak> Yes Park st over Davis Square 21:49 < jokeefe> Lets see how many we can get, before we have more than one location 21:49 < Bluelustreak> But the is a good mix in Fields Corner too 21:49 < srevilak> Hmm, VFP does an anti-war rally on SAturdays. Maybe we could work with them? 21:49 < Kendra> A really god loaction to get a lot of people is Haymarket 21:50 < Kendra> on market days 21:50 < Bluelustreak> Its not just the # of ppl 21:50 < Bluelustreak> Is the demographic 21:50 < Kendra> Go to haymarket on a market day. 21:50 < Kendra> Everybody is there 21:51 < Bluelustreak> Are they interested in fear politics? 21:51 < Bluelustreak> I wouldn't know 21:51 < Kendra> Very interesting and international crowd. I don't know the laws about leafletting there. 21:51 < Bluelustreak> I will look into that. Thanks for the idea 21:51 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: perhaps better to frame it as concern, rather than fear 21:52 < Bluelustreak> Um.. what's the name of the event? 21:52 < Kendra> fear politics? lol. I guess it's catchy. 21:52 < Bluelustreak> LOL 21:52 < Bluelustreak> I didn't coin that 21:53 < Bluelustreak> Heard it ... ? 21:53 < Bluelustreak> Facebook? MSNBC? 21:53 < Bluelustreak> Salon? 21:53 < Bluelustreak> Can't remember 21:53 < Kendra> I know, this is starting to sound like a marketing meeting though. And it is to a point. I think now is a good time to promote the MPP with all of the craziness with law enforcement. 21:53 < jokeefe> agreed 21:54 < Bluelustreak> We do need to market 21:54 < Bluelustreak> the other parties market 21:54 < Kendra> part of doing business 21:54 < Bluelustreak> Yes. 21:55 < Kendra> Also, We have dropped the ball on outreach to universities. I would suggest continued outreach this fall, but do it near where you live to save your energy. Just scale back our ambitions a bit. 21:55 < Bluelustreak> I need a strategy for out reach 21:56 < Bluelustreak> Not sure how to get started 21:56 < Bluelustreak> But back to the agenda? 21:56 < Bluelustreak> We are approaching time. 21:56 < Bluelustreak> May I suggest something? 21:56 < igel> sorry i had to step out, i have to go, ill write you. 21:56 < Bluelustreak> Skip talk of Pirate Con to talk about Freedom Rally? 21:57 < jokeefe> sure 21:57 < Bluelustreak> You still with us jokeefe? 21:57 < Bluelustreak> oops 21:57 < Bluelustreak> LOL 21:57 < Bluelustreak> OK So you said Kate would help? 21:57 < jokeefe> yes 21:57 < Bluelustreak> Really? She was very squirrelly about it last year. Too high profile 21:58 < Bluelustreak> I will reach out to her./ 21:58 < Bluelustreak> Who else do we have and when? 21:58 < Bluelustreak> Noe is a go. 21:58 < jokeefe> as long as masks are allowed 21:58 < Bluelustreak> OOooooh 21:58 < jokeefe> Joe? 21:58 < Bluelustreak> She would table masked, we all coo with that? 21:58 < Bluelustreak> Yes. Joe 21:59 < Bluelustreak> He said anyway 21:59 < Bluelustreak> Garret 21:59 < Bluelustreak> Sort of 21:59 < Bluelustreak> he comes and goes 21:59 < Bluelustreak> I am working on Bryan 21:59 < Kendra> What about Bryan and Chase 21:59 < jokeefe> need to ask? 21:59 < Kendra> My guess is they will be there 22:00 < Bluelustreak> I think Chance can't I will double check 22:00 < Bluelustreak> I must say if the CAPTAIN asks.... 22:00 < Bluelustreak> It matters to folks. 22:00 < jokeefe> will see who we can get from Somerville 22:00 < Kendra> A slim chance that I might be there, I'll know soon 22:00 < Bluelustreak> That would be awesome 22:00 < jokeefe> ++ 22:01 < Bluelustreak> Don't stress yourself out, but if it happens, great 22:01 < Bluelustreak> Besides you and Noe? OK thanks 22:01 < Bluelustreak> Huge undertaking 22:01 < Bluelustreak> Jason would work the whole thing himself but I dont' WANT him to 22:01 < Bluelustreak> I need him not to over do it. 22:02 < jokeefe> We have a month to find people, starting now. ;-) 22:02 < Bluelustreak> But yeah, this is his baby 22:02 < Bluelustreak> OK! 22:02 < jokeefe> For three events 22:02 < jokeefe> srevilak, would you complete the notes and post the transcript? 22:02 < Bluelustreak> I will ramp up the social media 22:02 < jokeefe> we are at time. motion to adjourn? 22:03 < Bluelustreak> 2nd 22:03 < jokeefe> all in favor? 22:03 < Bluelustreak> Check your FB jokeefe 22:03 < Kendra> aye, nite pirates 22:03 < srevilak> jokeefe: will post notes 22:03 < Bluelustreak> aye 22:03 < jokeefe> k 22:03 < srevilak> aye 22:03 < Bluelustreak> night!