February 28th, 2013 IRC Meeting

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  1. Recap of CryptoParty / #IDP13 Rally / Bradley Manning Rally
  2. Events Planning
    1. March in St. Patrick's Day Peace Parade?
    2. Boston Pride
    3. June Convention
  3. Web site migration
  4. National Party update

Quick Notes / Summaries Re Proposed Bills to be Discussed:


place holder

  • srevilak - Steve Revilak, Arlington
  • jokeefe - James O'Keefe, Somerville
  • passstab - PA
  • black_van - Sevan, Boston
  • SplendidSpoon - Lauren Pespisa, Boxboro/Cambridge
  • steverudy
  • GrimJack - WMass


  • ageis
  • illunatic
  • Mozart


Recap of CryptoParty / #IDP13 Rally / Bradley Manning Rally

Events Planning

March in St. Patrick's Day Peace Parade?

Not a lot of interest. Will ask around.

Boston Pride Parade

We are registered

June Convention

We need to make a decision on the location.

Web site migration

jokeefe registering with new service.

National Party update

Nothing right now.

Meeting Minutes


[11:59] <jokeefe> hi all [12:01] <jokeefe> agenda at http://masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=February_28th,_2013_IRC_Meeting [12:01] <black_van> hey [12:03] <jokeefe> ids - James O'Keefe, Somerville [12:04] <black_van> Sevan, Boston [12:05] <SplendidSpoon> Lauren Pespisa, Boxboro/Cambridge [12:07] <jokeefe> 1. Recap of CryptoParty / #IDP13 Rally / Bradley Manning Rally [12:08] <jokeefe> It went well. Maybe more people at the CryptoParty than at the protest. [12:08] <jokeefe> I thought 30 min was not enough time for each talk. [12:08] == steverudy [webchat@wjox763-3439-gujk903.bu.edu] has joined #masspirates [12:08] <jokeefe> hi steverudy [12:08] <jokeefe> agenda at http://masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=February_28th,_2013_IRC_Meeting [12:09] <steverudy> hey! [12:09] <jokeefe> srevilak, any other observations on the CryptoParty? [12:11] <jokeefe> Moving on 2. Events Planning [12:11] <jokeefe> We are registered for Boston Pride Parade [12:11] <jokeefe> Do we want to March in St. Patrick's Day Peace Parade? [12:12] <jokeefe> and who is willing to march in it? [12:14] <black_van> I might be able to, i don't know yet [12:14] <jokeefe> k [12:15] <jokeefe> SplendidSpoon, srevilak, ... ? [12:16] <steverudy> I'd maybe be interested in marching in the Pride parade, not so much the St. Patrick's parade [12:19] <jokeefe> I'll ask folks on email and others to see if they want to march. [12:20] <jokeefe> On the June Convention, need to pick a location at the 3/10 meeting. Need a matrix of the costs involved at the different sites. [12:22] <jokeefe> On the web site migration, going to setup the new hosting service. Will work with srevilak and shidash about moving existing sites over and setting things up. [12:22] <jokeefe> mildbeard isn't here to give a National Party news. SplendidSpoon, have you heard anything? [12:26] <SplendidSpoon> ah sorry was with boss [12:27] <SplendidSpoon> I haven't heard anything, I've been swamped with work, I will march in Pride again though [12:29] <jokeefe> k [12:30] <jokeefe> That is all I have. anything folks want to bring up? [12:30] <jokeefe> was my post on the latest SCOTUSFail decent enough - http://www.masspirates.org/blog/2013/02/27/supreme-court-kills-4th-amendment-on-line/ [12:33] == steverudy [webchat@wjox763-3439-gujk903.bu.edu] has quit [Quit: Web client closed] [12:34] <black_van> i posted it to r/technology [12:35] <feedbot> [Twitter] masspirates: Really tough to view, but important - Photographer as Witness: A Portrait of Domestic Violence http://t.co/OikM1ZbCvu - http://twitter.com/masspirates/statuses/307182154020945922 [12:35] <black_van> perhaps we should work on finding a regular meeting venue? I would like to host some new member events but I don't know where [12:36] <black_van> i think the pirate party video is a good intro/ice breaker and then which ever members are present can field questions [12:37] <jokeefe> good idea. [12:37] <jokeefe> piratetimes piece recommends just going to a bar or restaurant [12:38] <jokeefe> been on my list to get a group started in Camb/somerville [12:38] <GrimJack> Re: the blog post: I think its important to note that the Utah facility isn't going to scan data, then discard it. It's there to warehouse the data for a very long time. Think generations. That said, we have a sense of what that data is being mined for *right now*. But there's little known about what today's data may be mined for by the next Administration. Or in five, ten years. Or longer. [12:40] <jokeefe> agreed, GrimJack [12:40] <jokeefe> tried to say that, but must have failed in my rush to get it out. [12:41] <GrimJack> You mention an expanding timeframe, but not that something completely above-board now could abruptly be made illegal. [12:43] <GrimJack> Just as a exec. signing statement created now could be abused by a future administration with different intent than existed when it was implemented. [12:44] <jokeefe> agreed [12:46] <GrimJack> I don't mean to dominate the channel. I apologize. I am only an occasional visitor to this meeting. [12:47] <jokeefe> don't worry, it is pretty quite. everyone is busy at work [12:48] <jokeefe> anything else on folks' radar we should be concerned about? [12:50] <jokeefe> black_van, I think the thing to do is just pick a time and location and do it. Videos are good, but conversation is great, especially it is regular. [12:50] <GrimJack> Does anyone recall a statement made (I think) sometime last year regarding NSA capture of data and how its not really a search because the data isn't examined by people until the software brings it to their attention? [12:51] <black_van> i am going to spend sometime this week finding places that would be good for it [12:51] <jokeefe> great. I can send you the list of folks in boston. [12:52] <black_van> to see if they can host? [12:52] <jokeefe> I hadn't heard that GrimJack. The person who uttered it is clueless. [12:52] <GrimJack> I had an idea I wanted to develop, but I can't recall who or where on that. (Google is great for keywords, not so great at concepts.) [12:52] <jokeefe> black_van, was thinking to invite them. [12:52] <black_van> k, when the time comes I will ask you for all the new signups too [12:53] <GrimJack> Agreed they're clueless, I think it was some mil-type testifying to some panel or comittee. Feeling clueless about not having bookmarked it. [12:55] <jokeefe> great, black_van [12:56] <jokeefe> GrimJack not finding it either. might search for NSA testimony [12:57] <jokeefe> anyone got anything else "official"? [12:58] <black_van> ok ttyl [12:58] == black_van [webchat@p-59-92-29-53.hsd9.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Web client closed] [12:59] <jokeefe> guess that is it for the official part