February 6th, 2019 IRC Meeting

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Goals for Q1:

  • Organize meetups
  • Organize Fundraiser(s)
  • Organize candidate trainings
  • Revise platform

Boston Sex Worker Petition

Regional Meetings


  • find discussion/voting system
  • update blog theme
  • update civicrm software
  • set up torrents for PirateCon videos (creynolds)
  • post remaining audio for PirateCon talks (srevilak)

Video Newsletter

Election Campaigns


Update Platform

Mesh Net


CCTV camera map

Other To Dos

These have been on our agenda for a long time. How do we make them a reality?

Computer Donations

On hold - https://piratenpad.de/p/MassPiratesComputerDonations

FOSS Tutorials

Worcester farm group is interested in having some FOSS tutorials. Perhaps:

  • how to do basic labels in GIMP,
  • work through a few sample spreadsheets related to seed cost and
  • similarly applicable real-world situations, depending on the needs of the group

Basically how to do graph design & product management with open source tools. Malt will put together a one paragraph description of what we need and we can mail it out to ask pirates to help.

Upcoming Events

  • 2/5, 7-9pm, Mass MeshNet Tech Meeting, Industry Lab, 288 Norfolk St, Cambridge


  • igel: will fleurant arlington
  • jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Somerville
  • Pirate_Joe: Joseph Onoroski, Lowell
  • Malt: Sam capradae, Worcester
  • srevilak


  • ChanServ
  • hvxgr_
  • davidd
  • Mikaela_Suomalainen
  • bonelesspepsi[m]
  • igel[m]




[9:03pm] jokeefe: agenda: https://masspirates.org/wiki/February_6th,_2019_IRC_Meeting
[9:03pm] jokeefe: ids
[9:03pm] igel: halo willfleurant arlington
[9:03pm] jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Somerville
[9:03pm] Pirate_Joe: Joseph Onoroski, Lowell
[9:04pm] Malt: Sam capradae, Worcester
[9:04pm] jokeefe: anything to add?
[9:04pm] Malt: Non
[9:04pm] Pirate_Joe: Not at this time.
[9:05pm] jokeefe: Skipping to Projects
[9:05pm] igel: for review? no
[9:05pm] jokeefe: Boston Sex Worker Petition - we at over 120. Have a post scheduled and mentioned it in the email announcement I sent out this morning. posted about it on facebook
[9:06pm] Malt: Woo!
[9:06pm] jokeefe: other suggestions for telling people about it?
[9:07pm] Pirate_Joe: Did we write about it on twitter?
[9:09pm] jokeefe: yes
[9:09pm] Malt: Op ed in newspaper?
[9:10pm] jokeefe: letters to the editor?
[9:11pm] Malt: Finding community groups to collaborate with?
[9:11pm] Pirate_Joe: We could mention it again in the next Pirate video
[9:13pm] jokeefe: Which groups?
[9:14pm] Pirate_Joe: Going back to the news, there was a investigative reporter looking for more information. Let me see if I can dig up that email.....
[9:15pm] Pirate_Joe: <email redacted>
[9:15pm] jokeefe: Desmond responded to him.
[9:15pm] Pirate_Joe: Sry
[9:15pm] Pirate_Joe: Perhaps we can just call him. Malt, this seems more up your ally.
[9:16pm] jokeefe: Will check with Desmond and cc you all
[9:16pm] Malt: I nudged Desmond on this, they're a bit better informed
[9:17pm] Malt: I wasn't sure of the background tbh
[9:17pm] jokeefe: thanks
[9:17pm] jokeefe: Regional Meetings
[9:17pm] Pirate_Joe: It sounds your both in agreement and I have nothing against.
[9:17pm] jokeefe: Announced them on the blog and in an email
[9:18pm] jokeefe: Looking for a place in the Boston-area. Hopefully will know soon.
[9:18pm] Pirate_Joe: For the Lowell meeting, I have one final step to submit and we will have it locked in.
[9:18pm] jokeefe: good
[9:18pm] jokeefe: Malt, how goes Worcester?
[9:21pm] Pirate_Joe: I forwarded the information so you would have it for your records
[9:21pm] jokeefe: thanks
[9:21pm] Malt: Talking to the maker space, haven't decided yet on a location
[9:21pm] jokeefe: cool
[9:22pm] Malt: We could have beer at the maker space
[9:22pm] Malt: Which is, I feel, a powerful motivator
[9:23pm] jokeefe: that it would
[9:25pm] jokeefe: thanks to you both
[9:25pm] jokeefe: Tech/Outreach - sent out a survey for the next meeting. will follow up directly.
[9:26pm] Malt: Oh, for groups to Ally with, queer/trans folk are often targeted alongside sex workers, and many share solidarity with sex workers as well
[9:26pm] jokeefe: good idea
[9:27pm] Malt: I assume there are some red umbrella adjacent orgs in the metro area
[9:27pm] Malt: Homeless shelters also have a lot of contact with SWers
[9:27pm] Malt: Might even be faith based outreach groups but ehhhlol
[9:28pm] Malt: Porn studios?
[9:28pm] Pirate_Joe: casting couches?
[9:29pm] jokeefe: all good places to try
[9:32pm] jokeefe: Video Newsletter - have time to record this weekend?
[9:33pm] Pirate_Joe: I have a pretty open schedule so far.
[9:33pm] Pirate_Joe: I will just have to arrange a time for my youngest son to be cared for but I can dedicated more than enough time to it.
[9:33pm] jokeefe: Malt?
[9:35pm] jokeefe: Sunday is open. Saturday is possible, though afternoon is busy
[9:38pm] Pirate_Joe: Sunday morning?
[9:38pm] jokeefe: Works for me
[9:40pm] jokeefe: did we lose Malt?
[9:40pm] srevilak joined the chat room.
[9:40pm] Pirate_Joe: By hook or crook it seems
[9:40pm] Pirate_Joe: There is one thing I would like to add
[9:40pm] jokeefe: ahoy srevilak
[9:40pm] srevilak: hi jokeefe
[9:41pm] Pirate_Joe: Ahoy srevilak!
[9:41pm] jokeefe: let’s confirm Sunday morning over email for recording the latest pirate news
[9:41pm] jokeefe: what do you want to add Pirate_Joe?
[9:41pm] Pirate_Joe: Would you like to join us srevilak?
[9:41pm] srevilak: (apologies for the late arrival, been one of those days)
[9:41pm] Pirate_Joe: I motion for our yearly elections.
[9:41pm] igel: welcome
[9:42pm] Pirate_Joe: We are overdue for them
[9:42pm] jokeefe: good point
[9:42pm] srevilak: Pirate_Joe: join you for pirate news?
[9:42pm] Pirate_Joe: Si
[9:42pm] srevilak: Maybe.  I'll wait for your email 
[9:42pm] jokeefe: I suggest we have them in April. Gives us time to ask for nominations
[9:43pm] Pirate_Joe: jokeefe, could you include srevilak as well?
[9:43pm] jokeefe: for the pirate news?
[9:43pm] Pirate_Joe: Aye
[9:43pm] jokeefe: sure
[9:43pm] jokeefe: It would be a pleasure
[9:43pm] Pirate_Joe: Any topics you would be interested in?
[9:44pm] jokeefe: Article 13 is back on in Europe
[9:44pm] jokeefe: Mass state troopers are trying body cams
[9:44pm] Pirate_Joe: local officers had already had them for some time.
[9:45pm] jokeefe: or this https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/43z3dn/hundreds-bounty-hunters-att-tmobile-sprint-customer-location-data-years
[9:45pm] Pirate_Joe: All of it is good to discuss actually
[9:46pm] igel: its about time body cams --Justitia
[9:46pm] jokeefe: yes
[9:46pm] Malt left the chat room. (Quit: https://webchat.pirateirc.net/)
[9:46pm] srevilak: I've always been curious about what an NSL-style request to my cellular provider would come back with
[9:47pm] jokeefe: NSL=?
[9:47pm] srevilak: national security letter
[9:47pm] igel: fuzzing legal dept. ?
[9:47pm] Pirate_Joe:
[9:47pm] Pirate_Joe: Seems legit
[9:48pm] jokeefe: More ideas for topics in the latest email
[9:48pm] jokeefe: right, thanks srevilak.
[9:48pm] srevilak: A couple of NSLs have been made public.  I've sometimes thought about taking one, copy the list of subscriber data requested, and asking my cellular company "can I have this information for my account"
[9:49pm] jokeefe: would make a good article at least
[9:49pm] jokeefe: Election Campaigns -
[9:49pm] Pirate_Joe: We could do that as a special
[9:49pm] jokeefe: I need to work with Nick on how-to videos
[9:51pm] igel: carrier acknowledging anything nsl could lead to foia of previous nsl with carrier heh  
[9:52pm] srevilak: igel: https://www.calyxinstitute.org/news/federal-court-invalidates-11-year-old-fbi-gag-order-national-security-letter-recipient-nicholas has a bit of background
[9:52pm] • igel no idea how this works heh.. ask muckrock
[9:52pm] srevilak: at bottom of page is a link to court judgement
[9:52pm] srevilak: pages 19--20 of that pdf list the kind of data typically requested
[9:53pm] jokeefe: Budget - plan is to have a draft one by end of Feb.
[9:53pm] jokeefe: Update Platform - no progress, but should have some at the monthly meetups
[9:54pm] jokeefe: igel - any update on Mass Mesh Net effort?
[9:55pm] igel: we're packaging software and routing for 3 targeted devices
[9:55pm] jokeefe: Cryptoparties - Next Somerville one should be in March. Hopefully others in April and May.  We were asked to do an hour long one for the Green Party national meeting
[9:55pm] jokeefe: are there instructions for using cjdns with the routers?
[9:56pm] srevilak: jokeefe: where is green party national meeting?
[9:56pm] jokeefe: Salem, Massachusetts on July 25-28
[9:56pm] igel: between 2 ethernet ports, on one of these devices in testing, we are seeing ~1.3gbps of encrypted speedtesting
[9:56pm] jokeefe: Deadline for submission is May 15, but the earlier the better
[9:57pm] jokeefe: Workshops are on Thursday and Friday
[9:57pm] igel: we're looking into yggdrasil as our transport with tunnel addressing
[9:57pm] igel: yggdrasil is a fork of cjdns, developed by one of the cjdns core devs too.
[9:58pm] igel: theres even a linked pirateirc server y.irc.pirateirc.net
[9:58pm] jokeefe: https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/
[9:58pm] igel: long story short, we're bonding multiple interfaces, increasing resilience and throughput with -minimal- configuration effort
[9:59pm] jokeefe: always a good thing
[10:00pm] jokeefe: thanks igel
[10:00pm] jokeefe: anything else to bring up?
[10:00pm] Pirate_Joe: When do you think we will be voting by and by which system?
[10:00pm] Pirate_Joe: Set a hard date?
[10:01pm] Pirate_Joe: Also, is it possible to use the last system we used?
[10:01pm] jokeefe: srevilak?
[10:03pm] jokeefe: would it be possible to use the previous voting system?
[10:03pm] srevilak: yes
[10:03pm] srevilak: It was just a basically just a civi form, with tokens for validation
[10:03pm] Pirate_Joe: Voting due by April 24?
[10:04pm] Pirate_Joe: Make that April 23 so that our meeting on the 24 can be the announcements?
[10:05pm] jokeefe: That works.
[10:05pm] jokeefe: srevilak, how long was the voting period?
[10:05pm] Malt joined the chat room.
[10:05pm] jokeefe: ahoy Malt
[10:05pm] Pirate_Joe: WB Malt
[10:05pm] srevilak: jokeefe: don't remember exactly
[10:06pm] srevilak: Might have been two weeks, but I could be mistaken
[10:06pm] Pirate_Joe: Sounds about correct, there was a time to apply for different positions as well
[10:07pm] jokeefe: what I thought. will check the blog posts/emails.
[10:07pm] jokeefe: Does April 23rd work as the date votes are due?
[10:08pm] Pirate_Joe: srevilak, I am sorry that I have not sent you as check yet. It's been extremely busy for me of late but I should have that out to you shortly.
[10:08pm] srevilak: Pirate_Joe: no worries
[10:08pm] Pirate_Joe: Yes jokeefe
[10:08pm] srevilak: jokeefe: 4/23 seems do-able
[10:09pm] jokeefe: Matl, I posted the transcript on the wiki
[10:09pm] Malt left the chat room. (Client Quit)
[10:09pm] jokeefe: any objections to 4/23?
[10:09pm] Pirate_Joe: I second
[10:10pm] Malt joined the chat room.
[10:10pm] Pirate_Joe: So we would need to start whom runs for what on 4/9?
[10:10pm] Malt left the chat room. (Client Quit)
[10:10pm] Pirate_Joe: or have them locked in at that point?
[10:12pm] jokeefe: Let’s say nominations due by the 2nd so we can get the ballots out by the following weekend
[10:12pm] jokeefe: does that work?
[10:12pm] Pirate_Joe: More than for me. We are well past time.
[10:12pm] Pirate_Joe: Sorry for that.
[10:12pm] jokeefe: agreed.
[10:13pm] jokeefe: we can decide at the final dates at the next meeting
[10:13pm] Pirate_Joe: Sounds good
[10:13pm] jokeefe: I’ll check what notes we have of dates
[10:13pm] jokeefe: from last time
[10:13pm] jokeefe: shall we adjourn?
[10:13pm] srevilak: move to adjourn
[10:13pm] Pirate_Joe: Yeah, I third
[10:13pm] igel: sure sure
[10:13pm] Pirate_Joe: Aye
[10:13pm] srevilak: aye
[10:13pm] jokeefe: aye
[10:14pm] igel: yaar
[10:14pm] jokeefe: thanks all. I’ll post the transcript
[10:14pm] Pirate_Joe: ty sir
[10:14pm] Pirate_Joe: Good night all
[10:14pm] jokeefe: good night