January 24th, 2013 IRC Meeting

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Short agenda since we have the in-person meeting on the 27th.

  1. Motion to formally support Aaron Swartz protest on Friday
  2. Motion to support the International Day for Privacy #IDP13 Actions
    1. Decide what to do
  3. National Party update
  4. Additions to the agenda for the 27th

Quick Notes / Summaries Re Proposed Bills to be Discussed:

  1. Motion to formally support Aaron Swartz protest on Friday
  2. Motion to support the International Day for Privacy #IDP13 Actions
    1. Decide what to do
  3. National Party update
  4. Additions to the agenda for the 27th


  • srevilak - Steve Revilak, Arlington
  • jokeefe - James O'Keefe, Somerville
  • mildbeard - Erik Zoltan, Framingham
  • black_van - Sevan, Boston
  • Shidash - M. C., Boston


  • ata - Ian, from Worcester
  • illunatic
  • ageis
  • davidd
  • Mozart_
  • cmal


  1. PASSED - Motion to formally support Aaron Swartz protest on Friday
  2. PASSED - Motion to support the International Day for Privacy #IDP13 Actions
    1. Talking with organizers to see about holding a cryptoparty. Have Encuentro 5 scheduled 1-5pm
  3. National Party update
    1. National party trying to ratify constitution by Sunday
  4. Sunday meeting
    1. We need to discuss webhosting including:
      1. Putting the survey up on a website
      2. Getting liquid feedback or other method working

Meeting Minutes


[12:01] <@jokeefe> agenda at http://masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=January_24th,_2013_IRC_Meeting [12:02] <@jokeefe> waiting a few min for others to appear [12:02] <black_van> sounds good [12:02] <black_van> Any new people here that want to do intro's? [12:03] <ata> I'm a bit of a bystander/first-timer here. Interested in the party but can't commit as of yet. Worcester born & raised. [12:03] <ata> (looking for anything else?) [12:04] <black_van> welcome [12:04] <@srevilak> ata: welcome [12:04] <ata> Thank you [12:07] <ata> possibly a sticking point that I should mention, in case people get uncomfortable: I'm employed full time as a civilian dispatcher for a police department. I can understand if y'all get a little leery about that; if so, just let me know. But here because I'm committed to freedom of information, no other reason. [12:07] <black_van> aight, jamie said he was going to be in a meeting right now. Maybe we should begin [12:08] <black_van> lets do IDs (if you want). I'm Sevan from Boston. Moving to nH soon hopefully [12:08] <@srevilak> Steve, Arlington, MA [12:09] <Shidash> I'm M. C., also from Boston [12:09] <@jokeefe> James O'Keefe, Somerville [12:09] <ata> Ian, from Worcester. [12:10] <@jokeefe> our meeting minutes are open and logged, but thanks for being honest ata [12:10] <ata> No problem, I'm an up front kind of guy. [12:11] <@jokeefe> So, 1. Motion to formally support Aaron Swartz protest on Friday [12:11] <@jokeefe> Discussion? [12:11] <black_van> I plan on going [12:12] <@jokeefe> as do i [12:12] <Shidash> I also plan on going [12:12] == mildbeard [~erik@hknv-28-026-620-99.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #masspirates [12:12] <@srevilak> can't make it, but I support it [12:12] <@jokeefe> been getting the word out, about the protest, but wanted it to be formally approved [12:12] <mildbeard> Hi, sorry to be late! [12:12] <mildbeard> Erik Zoltan, Framingham [12:12] <@jokeefe> hi mildbeard! [12:13] <mildbeard> hey jokeefe [12:13] <black_van> should we have a vote? [12:14] <@jokeefe> any more need of discussion? [12:14] <mildbeard> Is this about the peaceful protest? [12:14] <@jokeefe> yes [12:15] <@jokeefe> all in favor? [12:15] <mildbeard> aye [12:16] <@jokeefe> aye [12:16] <black_van> aye [12:16] <Shidash> aye [12:16] <@srevilak> aye [12:16] <@jokeefe> any opposed? [12:17] <@jokeefe> or abtentions? [12:17] <mildbeard> love the manifesto [12:18] <mildbeard> not hard to see how you'd get in trouble... [12:18] <@jokeefe> motion passes [12:18] <Shidash> back in a minute [12:18] == Shidash [~shidash@155.41.yov.i] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] [12:19] <@jokeefe> Next up 2. Motion to support the International Day for Privacy #IDP13 Actions & what we should to [12:19] <@jokeefe> s/to/do/g [12:20] <@jokeefe> details at https://pad.riseup.net/p/OpBigBrotherORGA [12:20] <@jokeefe> though the Boston event got pulled, so not sure what is going on. [12:20] <@jokeefe> need to talk with BFI & other groups [12:21] <@srevilak> boston is still listed in the pad, with contact of @ANONinMASS [12:24] <@srevilak> perhaps make contact with @ANONinMASS, to see if we can work with them [12:24] <@jokeefe> have done so [12:24] <@jokeefe> last year the data was jan 28 and that seems to be the case this year based on http://www.europeanprivacyday.org/european-privacy-day-2013 [12:25] <@srevilak> I see feb 23rd - https://twitter.com/OpManning/status/294118988819083265 [12:25] <@jokeefe> right [12:26] <@jokeefe> anyway the plan was to rally at the state house on 2/23. thought it would be good to have a cryptoparty after it. keep it simple, tor, encryption etc. [12:26] <@jokeefe> need a place [12:27] <@srevilak> I'd be in favor of cryptoparty. Would we want boston area, or elsewhere? [12:29] <@jokeefe> was thinking boston area. Encuentro 5 is down the street. [12:29] <@srevilak> I'm okay w/ E5. [12:29] <@jokeefe> who can schedule it? [12:30] <@srevilak> I can schedule w/E5 [12:30] == Shidash [~shidash@155.41.yov.i] has joined #masspirates [12:30] == mode/#masspirates [+v Shidash] by [4Q] [12:30] <@srevilak> what time on 2/23? [12:31] == mode/#masspirates [+l 21] by [4Q] [12:31] <@jokeefe> afternoon, will run it past ANONinMASS and see ANONinMASS agrees [12:33] <@srevilak> ok. At present, nothing on E5 calendar for 2/23 [12:34] <+feedbot> [Twitter] masspirates: @ANONinMASS would a #cryptoparty after the #IDP13 rally work? May have a place just down the street. researching, need a time 2 schedule. - http://twitter.com/masspirates/statuses/294498260503113728 [12:34] <@jokeefe> Perhaps you could ask to schedule 1-5pm and we can refine. or is that too large a window? [12:35] <@jokeefe> so do we sign off on supporting IDP13? [12:35] <@jokeefe> any more discussion? [12:35] <@mildbeard> Seems pretty clear cut. [12:37] <@jokeefe> ok, then, all in favor [12:38] <+black_van> aye [12:38] <@srevilak> aye [12:38] <+Shidash> aye [12:39] <@mildbeard> aye [12:39] <@jokeefe> arrr [12:39] <@jokeefe> any opposed? [12:41] <+feedbot> [Twitter] masspirates: RT @arstechnica: French court orders Twitter to identify racist and anti-Semitic users http://t.co/TK4JIaH6 by @cfarivar - http://twitter.com/masspirates/statuses/294498576179027968 [12:42] <@jokeefe> abstentions? [12:42] <@jokeefe> motion passes [12:42] <@jokeefe> mildbeard, you want to give us a national party update? [12:43] <@srevilak> jokeefe: we're on E5 calendar for 1-5p on 2/23. [12:43] <@mildbeard> Well, I accidentally missed the PNC last night because my calendar reminder expired at the end of 2012!!! [12:43] <@mildbeard> But they were going to vote on Oklahoma's probationary status. [12:44] <@mildbeard> There's a requirement for all states to ratify the PNC constitution by this sunday. [12:44] <@mildbeard> Massachusetts was the first to ratify. [12:44] <@mildbeard> I really don't have anything else to report, sorry. [12:44] <@jokeefe> who hasn't ratified it? [12:44] <@mildbeard> I heard that NY, WI and OR had ratified. I'm not aware of anyone else. [12:45] <@mildbeard> California had objections and has conspicuously not ratified it yet. Last I had heard. [12:45] <@mildbeard> CA proposed an amendment to the constitution and then never showed up to vote on it. [12:47] <@jokeefe> k [12:47] <@jokeefe> what was the amendment? [12:48] <@jokeefe> thanks, srevilak ! [12:48] <+black_van> any update on liquid feedback [12:49] <@mildbeard> the amendment was to basically have social programs that benefit the most vulnerable people in society. [12:49] <@mildbeard> I think it would have passed if they had showed up to promote it. [12:49] <@jokeefe> <hangs head> no besides we need to move it elsewhere, mildbeard hasn't been able to get help to fix the issues. [12:50] <@mildbeard> yeah they haven't responded. [12:50] <@mildbeard> I'm still working on an alternative and making progress, but it will take a couple months. [12:50] <@jokeefe> lets put liquidfeedback on the agenda for sunday as well as web hosting. [12:51] <@jokeefe> thanks, mildbeard [12:51] <@mildbeard> k [12:51] <@jokeefe> anything else for Sunday's agenda? [12:51] <@mildbeard> do we have a lot of survey results to go over? [12:54] <@jokeefe> no [12:54] <@mildbeard> hmm. [12:56] <@jokeefe> more than ten, but not statistically significant [12:58] <@mildbeard> well that's not so bad. [12:58] <@mildbeard> We should get some kind of web survey up. [12:58] <@mildbeard> Maybe a thing to discuss. [12:58] <@jokeefe> i think that goes with the web site. reluctant to go the cloudservice route [13:01] <@mildbeard> ok I see. [13:03] <@jokeefe> anything else folks want to discuss? [13:03] <@jokeefe> on sunday [13:04] <@mildbeard> drawing a blank :) [13:04] <@jokeefe> no problem [13:04] <@jokeefe> we will think things up [13:04] <+Shidash> I need a way to get there on Sunday [13:04] <@jokeefe> lots to do [13:04] <+Shidash> Is anyone coming from Boston or a train stop? [13:05] <@jokeefe> Shidash, did you get black_van 's email? [13:05] <+Shidash> I don't think so? [13:06] <+black_van> i can give u a ride [13:08] <@jokeefe> tnx, black_van [13:08] <@jokeefe> anyone else need a ride? [13:09] <+Shidash> thanks. black_van: Where are you leaving from/where would be a convenient place for me to meet you? [13:10] <+black_van> email me your address. I am also picking someone up in brighton. I am gonna pick a location imbetween to pick u to up [13:11] <@jokeefe> thanks all [13:12] <@jokeefe> motion to adjourn? [13:12] <@mildbeard> second [13:12] <+black_van> yup [13:12] <@srevilak> aye [13:12] <@mildbeard> aye [13:12] <+ata> Thanks for letting me sit in and observe, folks [13:13] <@jokeefe> motion passed, have a wonderful day! [13:13] <+Shidash> aye