January 2nd, 2014 IRC Meeting
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- Upcoming Events
- TPP/TAFTA protest?
- 1/5, Campaign Training
- 1/9, Somerville Pirate Party meeting. https://twitter.com/villepirates
- 1/11, Honor the Memory of Aaron Swartz; Demand Carmen Ortiz's Job
- 1/17-20, Arisia, Boston
- 1/18, Campaign Training
- 1/18 Boston Common Smoke Out/Vape Up!
- 1/23, Medway Pirates Meeting. twitter youtube
- 1/25, Issue Meeting
- 1/25, 7pm, Activists Ball
- 1/30?, Somerville Pirate Party meeting. https://twitter.com/villepirates
- 2/17 (Monday), Snowden, Manning & other whistleblowers Airport Protest
- 3/1 (Saturday), Pirate Party Costume Ball (Request to Democracy Center set)
- Support Outreach & Fundraising
- Phone banking
- Valentines Day Fundraiser Status
- 2014 Campaign
- Media List
- Voter registration app
- jokeefe (James O'Keefe, Somerville)
- srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA)
- ageis (Kevin Gallagher, Amherst)
- Joe (Joe Guertin, Bellingham, Ma)
- Igel (William Fleurant, Arlington MA)
- Bluestreak (Lucia Fiero)
- Airport protest. Suggest having signs for several whistleblowers. Bring press release, flyers, camera. No costumes. We'll do this on President's day. Mon, Feb 17th. (Motion passes, 4-0)
- Arisia. Planning to do cryptoparties and campaign training. Probable attendees: jokeefe, srevilak, Joe
- Ageis will try to find spaces to do Feb. campaign training in Western MA
- 1/11 - Demand Carmen Ortiz's Job.
- 1/18 Boston Common Smoke Out/Vape Up! protest. Protests on 3rd Saturday of each month. General opinion: Boston's no-smoking/vaping in parks law is a dumb law that will be selectively enforced, and a slap against Masscan. Motion to support protest passes, 6-0.
- Valentine's day fundraiser. Democracy center is not available on Feb 14th. We propose March 1st instead (at the Democracy center). 5pm to midnight booking; this includes time for setup and teardown.
- 1/5 Campaign training. Lucia and Jamie bringing cameras. Lucia bringing tripod.
[9:02pm] jokeefe: Agenda - http://masspirates.org/wiki/January_2nd,_2014_IRC_Meeting [9:03pm] jokeefe: starting with ids - James O'Keefe, Somerville [9:03pm] ageis: Kevin Gallagher, Amherst [9:03pm] srevilak: Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA [9:04pm] Joe: joe guertin, bellingham, ma [9:04pm] Joe: Joe Guertin, Bellingham, Ma [9:04pm] Joe: Well that looks much better [9:05pm] Igel: William Fleurant, Arlington MA [9:05pm] Joe: As a warning, I may end up falling asleep at my computer. I'll try to last as long as I can [9:05pm] • Igel looks at agenda [9:06pm] jokeefe: np, Joe. [9:06pm] jokeefe: We have a busy January [9:06pm] Joe: I'll be there Sunday. I'm going to carpool with Lucia [9:07pm] jokeefe: Cool! [9:07pm] jokeefe: Please talk up the 1/5, Campaign Training event, if you can [9:08pm] jokeefe: srevilak, would you introduce your Snowden Airport Protest idea? [9:08pm] srevilak: I can't claim credit for the idea -- just passing it along [9:09pm] srevilak: Idea is: head to airport, with sign that says "Edward Snowden" [9:09pm] srevilak: wait around like you're waiting for him to arrive [9:09pm] srevilak: There's a national effort to do this on Jan 3rd [9:09pm] srevilak: But, could also do it later [9:09pm] srevilak: IIRC, German PP may have come up with the idea [9:10pm] davidd: yep, they started it after snowden had fled hongkong [9:11pm] jokeefe: What about broadening it to include other whistleblowers as well. Manning, Kiriakou, weev, etc. [9:11pm] davidd: i think pp norway threw an actual trollbait at the national media [9:11pm] jokeefe: oh, what did they do? [9:11pm] davidd: that they were expecting him and he was already on the play [9:11pm] jokeefe: haha [9:11pm] srevilak: Here's where I heard of airport protest: http://lists.pirateweb.net/pipermail/pp.international.general/2013-December/014971.html [9:12pm] davidd: http://www.aftenbladet.no/nyheter/utenriks/Piratpartiet---Snowden-reiser-til-Island-via-Norge-3203354.html#.UsYcdEPAORs [9:12pm] davidd: that was just a few days after he arrived in moscow [9:13pm] davidd: than next some german pirates went to airports with signs [9:13pm] jokeefe: sound like an idea we should do? [9:14pm] srevilak: jokeefe: no objections to including other whistleblowers. Were you thinking of all @ once? [9:14pm] davidd: well it makes less sense when you are doing it in the US [9:14pm] jokeefe: yes, different people, have different signs [9:15pm] jokeefe: Of course only snowden would appear at the international terminal [9:15pm] srevilak: I'm game. [9:15pm] jokeefe: so am i [9:15pm] jokeefe: suggestions when, was thinking M-Th for best media coverage. [9:16pm] davidd: so when you go do something like that, what kind of gear do you take with you? [9:16pm] srevilak: Sure. Snowden arriving with weev and Manning. Heard about it on the internet. Must be true [9:17pm] srevilak: davidd: probably pirate costumes and some leaflets [9:17pm] jokeefe: press releases, video camera to record it [9:17pm] jokeefe: for this I would suggest leaving the costumes [9:18pm] jokeefe: signs of course [9:18pm] davidd: you have some meeting planned yet? [9:18pm] jokeefe: planning meeting? [9:18pm] davidd: you have regular bar meets in boston yet? [9:19pm] jokeefe: We have a monthly issues meeting, and local chapters are meeting once a month/three weeks [9:20pm] Igel: davidd: now your're talkin [9:20pm] Garret joined the chat room. [9:20pm] jokeefe: hi Garret [9:20pm] davidd: so if you meet somebody that asks about the sign tell them about the meetings [9:20pm] Igel: ill swing thru the ville meet, eh.. [9:20pm] Garret: hi! took forever to find the link. lol [9:20pm] srevilak: davidd: yes, we've been doing issues meetings at pub-ish restaurants [9:20pm] jokeefe: Agenda at http://masspirates.org/wiki/January_2nd,_2014_IRC_Meeting [9:21pm] jokeefe: On 1.2 Snowden (all whistleblowers?) Airport Protest [9:21pm] Joe: Hey Garret [9:21pm] jokeefe: picking a date [9:21pm] jokeefe: great lgel [9:22pm] Garret: airport protest? [9:22pm] jokeefe: yes, you game? [9:22pm] jokeefe: Thinking having people with signs for Snowden, Manning, and other whistleblowers [9:22pm] srevilak: Garret: http://lists.pirateweb.net/pipermail/pp.international.general/2013-December/014971.html [9:23pm] Garret: umm.... i dunno. that might be a tricky one. i'd be very open to considering it [9:23pm] jokeefe: why tricky? [9:23pm] Garret: reading that link now [9:23pm] Garret: tricky as far as reaching a receptive audience [9:23pm] jokeefe: was thinking more of getting media attention [9:23pm] Garret: hey, this is cool! [9:25pm] Garret: umm... so standing around waiting for Snowy to land... would this be inside/outside? (brrrrrrr) [9:25pm] jokeefe: inside [9:25pm] Garret: sweet. i'm in [9:25pm] srevilak: inside, where everyone else is waiting for arrivals [9:25pm] jokeefe: dates? [9:26pm] zby_ joined the chat room. [9:26pm] srevilak: Maybe February? (We have ~ 7 events in Jan) [9:27pm] zby left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [9:27pm] Garret: Feb works. I plan to be booked up the third weekened of each month fighitng Boston on the smoking fines [9:27pm] jokeefe: true [9:28pm] Joe: Fighting the smoking fines should be fun [9:28pm] jokeefe: any dates of significance in Feb.? [9:28pm] srevilak: Presidents day? [9:28pm] Garret: ewwwwww [9:29pm] srevilak: Garret: IMHO, that makes it a fine day for a protest [9:29pm] Garret: [9:29pm] jokeefe: Monday, February 17, works [9:29pm] jokeefe: all in favor? [9:29pm] srevilak: aye [9:30pm] jokeefe: aye [9:30pm] Igel: ayw [9:30pm] Garret: aye [9:30pm] Garret: (Thomas Robert Malthus, British economist, born February 17, 1766.) [9:30pm] jokeefe: oh lord [9:30pm] jokeefe: any opposed? [9:31pm] passstab joined the chat room. [9:31pm] jokeefe: hi passstab [9:31pm] passstab: hi jokeefe [9:32pm] Garret: can we call it the Thomas Robert Malthus's Whistleblower Day? [9:32pm] jokeefe: ha ha no [9:32pm] jokeefe: try not to be associated with Malthus [9:33pm] jokeefe: motion passes then [9:34pm] jokeefe: On Arisia, anyone going besides srevilak & myself? We are having a crypto party / campaign training at it [9:34pm] jokeefe: Also, aegis, would you be able to find us a place to hold a campaign training in Feb. in W. Mass? [9:35pm] ageis: I can see what spaces are available [9:35pm] jokeefe: thank you! [9:35pm] ageis: how big ? do we need it for free? [9:35pm] jokeefe: pref. free, 10-20 [9:35pm] jokeefe: people [9:35pm] ageis: okay! [9:36pm] Joe: I will be trying to make it to Arisia [9:37pm] jokeefe: thank you [9:38pm] jokeefe: great [9:38pm] jokeefe: Just a reminder about the 1/11, Honor the Memory of Aaron Swartz; Demand Carmen Ortiz's Job protest [9:39pm] Garret: 1/11... i'll be sure to come out. [9:39pm] Garret: bullhorn? [9:39pm] ageis: theres a new piece on Boston Magazine about Swartz http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/article/2014/01/02/bob-swartz-losing-aaron/ [9:39pm] srevilak: I have to be out of town that weekend [9:39pm] jokeefe: cool on both counts aegis & Garret - so, Boston banned smoking in public parks, right Garret? [9:40pm] jokeefe: directed at cannabis smokers [9:40pm] Garret: HA HA HA HA HA. ya... ya, they tryin. official, the ban is in effect now. passed unanimously [9:40pm] jokeefe: 1/18 Boston Common Smoke Out/Vape Up! protest [9:40pm] Garret: on the surface it's targeted against all smokers and vaporizers, cannabis and tobacco... but really it is a sideshot at Masscann [9:40pm] jokeefe: and then periodically until done? [9:40pm] Garret: MassCann and the cannabis movement [9:41pm] Garret: these will be monthly on the 3 weekend (saturydas, except April cause 4/20 is sunda) [9:41pm] jokeefe: just cannabis, or tobacco also? [9:41pm] Garret: both [9:41pm] Garret: all of the above [9:41pm] Garret: $250 to smoke on the common [9:41pm] Garret: tobacco, cannabis, smoking, vaping (e-cigs) [9:41pm] Garret: we're gonna have it all [9:42pm] Garret: to smoke on ANY boston park [9:42pm] jokeefe: thanks! folks in favor of endorsing the protest? [9:42pm] Garret: i can go into a rant here... but here's the https://www.facebook.com/events/642274562499212/ [9:42pm] Igel: lool [9:43pm] Igel: you shouldnt smoke in the park [9:43pm] Garret: why? [9:43pm] Garret: it's open air [9:44pm] jokeefe: cars do it [9:44pm] Garret: cars do WORSE, in much greater quantity [9:44pm] srevilak: I think it's a bad ordinance, which will only be selectively enforced [9:44pm] jokeefe: aye [9:44pm] Garret: exactly! seletive enforcement is my gripe [9:44pm] Igel: cars dont throw ciggs on the grass [9:44pm] jokeefe: then enforce the littering laws [9:45pm] Garret: cars drip antifreeze, oil, gas, and a dozen other chemicals into the environment all day [9:45pm] Igel: but theres no police there [9:45pm] Garret: exactly, it's not enforceable, and if they do enfroce, the can only do it selectively. it's not reasonable and it's contrary to liberty. [9:45pm] Igel: if cars drip anti freeze, then they would over heat and break down, same goes for oil [9:45pm] Garret: enforce a littering fine: I'll back that all day [9:45pm] davidd: so only in parks [9:45pm] Igel: if they leaked gas they wouldnt pass inspection [9:45pm] ageis: RMRECONNS [9:45pm] ageis: oops [9:45pm] davidd: smoking on sidewalks still allowed? [9:46pm] Garret: Igel, my car did it for 5 years. put a gallon in every week of antifreeze [9:46pm] Bluestreak joined the chat room. [9:46pm] Igel: well [9:46pm] Igel: you should have cut it 1/2 with water [9:46pm] jokeefe: davidd, yes, I believe it is only in parks [9:46pm] davidd: hi Bluestreak [9:46pm] Bluestreak: Meep [9:46pm] jokeefe: hi Bluestreak [9:46pm] Bluestreak: Sorry all [9:46pm] Bluestreak: *I WAS ASLEEP* [9:47pm] srevilak: Bluestreak: http://masspirates.org/wiki/January_2nd,_2014_IRC_Meeting#Participants [9:47pm] Bluestreak: (Rough day) [9:47pm] srevilak: item 1.5 [9:47pm] srevilak: er, 1.6 [9:47pm] Garret: I did cut it with Water, lol. not the point. [9:47pm] Igel: oooh [9:47pm] Igel: hey [9:47pm] Garret: and yes, any PARKS are fined, not the street [9:47pm] Igel: Garret i thought this was a littering ban [9:47pm] jokeefe: debating 1/18 Boston Common Smoke Out/Vape Up! protest [9:47pm] Bluestreak: No will [9:48pm] davidd: have a great night all [9:48pm] Bluestreak: Not about littering [9:48pm] jokeefe: good night davidd [9:48pm] Bluestreak: u2 d [9:48pm] davidd: and if you happen to have a clear sky tonight, have a look at jupiter [9:48pm] Igel: hey i think this is a problem [9:48pm] Bluestreak: Blizzard here d [9:48pm] Garret: no, it's a smoking ban, not littering. it's even targeting vaporizers.. which don't litter. [9:48pm] davidd: its the brightest diamond in the sky, vevry easy to spot with this new moon [9:49pm] Bluestreak: The fact that it is about vaping too... [9:49pm] Igel: so this is pretty lame [9:49pm] Bluestreak: really points to it being a counter to the successful drive against peohibition [9:49pm] Igel: sorry for arguing the littering thing... [9:49pm] Garret: i feel this is a continuation of the fiasco w the Freedom Rally, where City Council fought us on the permits and won limited success in cutting us back (but failed because we rallied bigger andbadder anyways) [9:49pm] Bluestreak: Agreed [9:50pm] Igel: yeah [9:50pm] Garret: it's gonna be billed as "spontaneous" so no individual can be easily targeted for harassment. [9:50pm] Bluestreak: Lucia Fiero (eep) [9:51pm] Igel: i think its safe to say, people litter with tobacco more than with grass [9:51pm] Bluestreak: There is also the point that smoking in general is a social thing [9:51pm] Garret: oh definitely. it's gross. i yell at people for kickin butts in the park. [9:52pm] jokeefe: if spontaneous, maybe we shouldn't endorse, Garret? [9:52pm] Bluestreak: No we should endorse! [9:52pm] Garret: nah, can still endorse [9:52pm] Garret: spontaneous to say that there is no ring leader [9:52pm] Garret: ...although, ya know... lol [9:53pm] Bluestreak: TPTB don't like gaggles of prolitariat lurking together... possibly scheming... [9:53pm] jokeefe: lgel, you still have concerns? [9:54pm] Bluestreak: I assume you don't smoke Will? Neither do I. [9:54pm] Igel: negative, clearly this is not a ban on littering and cigg filters for sake of the park and recs.. [9:54pm] jokeefe: ok, moving to a vote, all in favor? [9:54pm] jokeefe: thanks, lgel [9:54pm] Garret: aye [9:54pm] Bluestreak: aye [9:54pm] Igel: aye [9:54pm] srevilak: aye [9:54pm] jokeefe: aye [9:55pm] jokeefe: Joe? [9:55pm] jokeefe: zby_? [9:55pm] jokeefe: any opposed? [9:57pm] Joe: I may or may not have fallen asleep for a bit [9:57pm] Joe: I'm in favor [9:57pm] Bluestreak: LOL [9:57pm] Garret: heh. Lu Lu did it to you [9:57pm] jokeefe: motion passes, thanks Joe [9:58pm] Bluestreak: I DID! [9:58pm] jokeefe: We are almost at and end, just want to check on suggestions for places for the Valentines Day Fundraiser - democracy center is taken [9:58pm] jokeefe: could do a different date [9:59pm] jokeefe: later in Feb. [9:59pm] Bluestreak: I t can still have the Valentines theme later in the month [10:00pm] Bluestreak: Can we party in the dem ctr? [10:00pm] jokeefe: or just a pirate theme [10:01pm] jokeefe: yes, they have concerts [10:01pm] Bluestreak: I say later in Feb is fine. [10:01pm] jokeefe: Sat. March 1st is available [10:01pm] Bluestreak: We need time to recover from Arisa and the Ball anyway [10:02pm] jokeefe: not much time [10:02pm] Bluestreak: I *lik* it [10:02pm] Bluestreak: lol [10:02pm] Bluestreak: ooops [10:02pm] jokeefe: nope, got my months wrong [10:02pm] jokeefe: plenty of time [10:03pm] Bluestreak: maybe you need a nap [10:03pm] jokeefe: All in favor of Sat., March 1st for the Pirate Party fundraiser? [10:03pm] jokeefe: at Democracycenter.org? [10:03pm] Bluestreak: aye [10:03pm] srevilak: aye [10:03pm] Joe: aye [10:04pm] Igel: aye [10:05pm] jokeefe: need time to setup - book book for 5pm+ or 6pm+? [10:05pm] jokeefe: aye [10:05pm] Bluestreak: 5 [10:05pm] Garret: aye [10:05pm] srevilak: 5pm sounds good [10:06pm] jokeefe: end time? [10:06pm] Bluestreak: Before midnight or I will turn into a pumpkin [10:06pm] srevilak: how about 10pm? [10:07pm] jokeefe: so 11pm, to deal with cleanup? [10:07pm] srevilak: sounds reasonable [10:07pm] Bluestreak: we drinking? [10:07pm] Bluestreak: imbibing allowed? [10:08pm] Bluestreak: at dem ctr? [10:08pm] jokeefe: good question, will need to find out [10:08pm] Bluestreak: I was thinking end at 11 clean until 12 [10:08pm] Bluestreak: 5 to 12 too long to book it? [10:09pm] jokeefe: can request it [10:09pm] jokeefe: so any opposed? [10:09pm] Bluestreak: just a suggestion [10:10pm] Kendra joined the chat room. [10:10pm] jokeefe: hi Kendra [10:10pm] Kendra: Hi sorry so late, I can look at the notes [10:10pm] Bluestreak: HI K [10:10pm] jokeefe: motion passes [10:11pm] Kendra: Hi Everybody [10:11pm] Igel: back in MI? [10:11pm] Bluestreak: HIIIIIII [10:11pm] jokeefe: 3/1/2014 fundraiser - Democracy Center [10:11pm] jokeefe: putting the request in now [10:11pm] Bluestreak: Thanks, J! [10:11pm] Kendra: Yes in Michigan. That sounds like a good date, less competition than valentines [10:12pm] • Igel afk [10:12pm] jokeefe: BTW: this page is really useful - http://www.studentcity.com/blog/when-is-my-spring-break/ [10:12pm] jokeefe: for planning [10:12pm] jokeefe: I love the internet [10:12pm] Garret: ...so you can party down at Spring Break, Jokeefe? [10:13pm] Bluestreak: Um [10:13pm] Bluestreak: Yeah. That's it. [10:14pm] jokeefe: lol [10:14pm] jokeefe: request sent [10:15pm] Bluestreak: So I was late n all but we are over time. [10:15pm] Garret: look at this one [10:15pm] Garret: Lu Lu... [10:15pm] Garret: tsk tsk tsk [10:15pm] jokeefe: yes, anything else folks cannot wait until next meeting to discuss? [10:16pm] Bluestreak: Campaign training at 1... [10:16pm] Bluestreak: Oh [10:16pm] srevilak: nothing here [10:16pm] Bluestreak: video? [10:16pm] jokeefe: that would be good. [10:16pm] Bluestreak: Anyone videoing it? so .... no? [10:17pm] jokeefe: I can bring my camera, but only 720p with limited zoom [10:17pm] Bluestreak: My flip cam is pretty good, but I have to figger how to hook it up to the mac [10:18pm] Garret: use the cord [10:18pm] Garret: [10:18pm] Garret: night!!!! [10:18pm] Bluestreak: Oh so you can help me [10:18pm] jokeefe: night, Garret [10:18pm] Bluestreak: Night G [10:18pm] Garret left the chat room. (Quit: Web client closed) [10:18pm] Bluestreak: Yeah that was all I wanted to know [10:18pm] jokeefe: bring a tripod [10:18pm] Bluestreak: kk [10:19pm] Kendra: I'll look over the meeting notes, see you all soon. Nite. [10:19pm] Kendra left the chat room. (Quit: Web client closed) [10:19pm] jokeefe: motion to adjourn [10:19pm] Bluestreak: 2nd [10:19pm] jokeefe: all in favor? [10:19pm] srevilak: aye [10:19pm] Bluestreak: Goodnight peeps [10:19pm] Bluestreak: aye [10:19pm] ageis: kk [10:20pm] Joe: goodnight [10:21pm] jokeefe: aye [10:21pm] jokeefe: good night all, thank you! [10:22pm] Bluestreak: Gnight jokeefe [10:22pm] jokeefe: good night, Bluestreak [10:22pm] srevilak left the chat room. (Quit: Excessive packet loss. Blame NSA) [10:22pm] jokeefe: thanks again, ageis, for looking for a place to have a W. Mass. candidate training