January 2nd, 2014 IRC Meeting

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  1. Upcoming Events
    1. TPP/TAFTA protest?
    2. 1/5, Campaign Training
    3. 1/9, Somerville Pirate Party meeting. https://twitter.com/villepirates
    4. 1/11, Honor the Memory of Aaron Swartz; Demand Carmen Ortiz's Job
    5. 1/17-20, Arisia, Boston
      1. 1/18, Campaign Training
      2. Cryptoparty
    6. 1/18 Boston Common Smoke Out/Vape Up!
    7. 1/23, Medway Pirates Meeting. twitter youtube
    8. 1/25, Issue Meeting
    9. 1/25, 7pm, Activists Ball
    10. 1/30?, Somerville Pirate Party meeting. https://twitter.com/villepirates
    11. 2/17 (Monday), Snowden, Manning & other whistleblowers Airport Protest
    12. 3/1 (Saturday), Pirate Party Costume Ball (Request to Democracy Center set)
  2. Support Outreach & Fundraising
    1. Phone banking
    2. Valentines Day Fundraiser Status
  3. 2014 Campaign
    1. Media List
    2. Mapping
    3. Voter registration app


  • jokeefe (James O'Keefe, Somerville)
  • srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA)
  • davidd
  • ageis (Kevin Gallagher, Amherst)
  • Joe (Joe Guertin, Bellingham, Ma)
  • Igel (William Fleurant, Arlington MA)
  • Garret
  • passtab
  • Bluestreak (Lucia Fiero)


  • zby


  • Airport protest. Suggest having signs for several whistleblowers. Bring press release, flyers, camera. No costumes. We'll do this on President's day. Mon, Feb 17th. (Motion passes, 4-0)
  • Arisia. Planning to do cryptoparties and campaign training. Probable attendees: jokeefe, srevilak, Joe
  • Ageis will try to find spaces to do Feb. campaign training in Western MA
  • 1/11 - Demand Carmen Ortiz's Job.
  • 1/18 Boston Common Smoke Out/Vape Up! protest. Protests on 3rd Saturday of each month. General opinion: Boston's no-smoking/vaping in parks law is a dumb law that will be selectively enforced, and a slap against Masscan. Motion to support protest passes, 6-0.
  • Valentine's day fundraiser. Democracy center is not available on Feb 14th. We propose March 1st instead (at the Democracy center). 5pm to midnight booking; this includes time for setup and teardown.
  • 1/5 Campaign training. Lucia and Jamie bringing cameras. Lucia bringing tripod.

Meeting Minutes

[9:02pm] jokeefe: Agenda - http://masspirates.org/wiki/January_2nd,_2014_IRC_Meeting
[9:03pm] jokeefe: starting with ids - James O'Keefe, Somerville
[9:03pm] ageis: Kevin Gallagher, Amherst
[9:03pm] srevilak: Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA
[9:04pm] Joe: joe guertin, bellingham, ma
[9:04pm] Joe: Joe Guertin, Bellingham, Ma
[9:04pm] Joe: Well that looks much better
[9:05pm] Igel: William Fleurant, Arlington MA
[9:05pm] Joe: As a warning, I may end up falling asleep at my computer. I'll try to last as long as I can
[9:05pm] • Igel looks at agenda
[9:06pm] jokeefe: np, Joe.
[9:06pm] jokeefe: We have a busy January
[9:06pm] Joe: I'll be there Sunday. I'm going to carpool with Lucia
[9:07pm] jokeefe: Cool!
[9:07pm] jokeefe: Please talk up the 1/5, Campaign Training event, if you can
[9:08pm] jokeefe: srevilak, would you introduce your Snowden Airport Protest idea?
[9:08pm] srevilak: I can't claim credit for the idea -- just passing it along
[9:09pm] srevilak: Idea is: head to airport, with sign that says "Edward Snowden"
[9:09pm] srevilak: wait around like you're waiting for him to arrive
[9:09pm] srevilak: There's a national effort to do this on Jan 3rd
[9:09pm] srevilak: But, could also do it later
[9:09pm] srevilak: IIRC, German PP may have come up with the idea
[9:10pm] davidd: yep, they started it after snowden had fled hongkong
[9:11pm] jokeefe: What about broadening it to include other whistleblowers as well.  Manning, Kiriakou, weev, etc.
[9:11pm] davidd: i think pp norway threw an actual trollbait at the national media
[9:11pm] jokeefe: oh, what did they do?
[9:11pm] davidd: that they were expecting him and he was already on the play
[9:11pm] jokeefe: haha
[9:11pm] srevilak: Here's where I heard of airport protest: http://lists.pirateweb.net/pipermail/pp.international.general/2013-December/014971.html
[9:12pm] davidd: http://www.aftenbladet.no/nyheter/utenriks/Piratpartiet---Snowden-reiser-til-Island-via-Norge-3203354.html#.UsYcdEPAORs
[9:12pm] davidd: that was just a few days after he arrived in moscow
[9:13pm] davidd: than next some german pirates went to airports with signs
[9:13pm] jokeefe: sound like an idea we should do?
[9:14pm] srevilak: jokeefe: no objections to including other whistleblowers.  Were you thinking of all @ once?
[9:14pm] davidd: well it makes less sense when you are doing it in the US
[9:14pm] jokeefe: yes, different people, have different signs
[9:15pm] jokeefe: Of course only snowden would appear at the international terminal
[9:15pm] srevilak: I'm game.
[9:15pm] jokeefe: so am i
[9:15pm] jokeefe: suggestions when, was thinking M-Th for best media coverage.
[9:16pm] davidd: so when you go do something like that, what kind of gear do you take with you?
[9:16pm] srevilak: Sure.  Snowden arriving with weev and Manning.  Heard about it on the internet.  Must be true 
[9:17pm] srevilak: davidd: probably pirate costumes and some leaflets
[9:17pm] jokeefe: press releases, video camera to record it
[9:17pm] jokeefe: for this I would suggest leaving the costumes
[9:18pm] jokeefe: signs of course
[9:18pm] davidd: you have some meeting planned yet?
[9:18pm] jokeefe: planning meeting?
[9:18pm] davidd: you have regular bar meets in boston yet?
[9:19pm] jokeefe: We have a monthly issues meeting, and local chapters are meeting once a month/three weeks
[9:20pm] Igel: davidd: now your're talkin 
[9:20pm] Garret joined the chat room.
[9:20pm] jokeefe: hi Garret
[9:20pm] davidd: so if you meet somebody that asks about the sign tell them about the meetings
[9:20pm] Igel: ill swing thru the ville meet, eh..
[9:20pm] Garret: hi! took forever to find the link. lol
[9:20pm] srevilak: davidd: yes, we've been doing issues meetings at pub-ish restaurants
[9:20pm] jokeefe: Agenda at http://masspirates.org/wiki/January_2nd,_2014_IRC_Meeting
[9:21pm] jokeefe: On 1.2 Snowden (all whistleblowers?) Airport Protest
[9:21pm] Joe: Hey Garret
[9:21pm] jokeefe: picking a date
[9:21pm] jokeefe: great lgel
[9:22pm] Garret: airport protest?
[9:22pm] jokeefe: yes, you game?
[9:22pm] jokeefe: Thinking having people with signs for Snowden, Manning, and other whistleblowers
[9:22pm] srevilak: Garret: http://lists.pirateweb.net/pipermail/pp.international.general/2013-December/014971.html
[9:23pm] Garret: umm.... i dunno. that might be a tricky one. i'd be very open to considering it
[9:23pm] jokeefe: why tricky?
[9:23pm] Garret: reading that link now
[9:23pm] Garret: tricky as far as reaching a receptive audience
[9:23pm] jokeefe: was thinking more of getting media attention
[9:23pm] Garret: hey, this is cool!
[9:25pm] Garret: umm... so standing around waiting for Snowy to land... would this be inside/outside? (brrrrrrr)
[9:25pm] jokeefe: inside
[9:25pm] Garret: sweet. i'm in
[9:25pm] srevilak: inside, where everyone else is waiting for arrivals
[9:25pm] jokeefe: dates?
[9:26pm] zby_ joined the chat room.
[9:26pm] srevilak: Maybe February?  (We have ~ 7 events in Jan)
[9:27pm] zby left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
[9:27pm] Garret: Feb works. I plan to be booked up the third weekened of each month fighitng Boston on the smoking fines
[9:27pm] jokeefe: true
[9:28pm] Joe: Fighting the smoking fines should be fun
[9:28pm] jokeefe: any dates of significance in Feb.?
[9:28pm] srevilak: Presidents day?
[9:28pm] Garret: ewwwwww
[9:29pm] srevilak: Garret: IMHO, that makes it a fine day for a protest 
[9:29pm] Garret:
[9:29pm] jokeefe: Monday, February 17, works
[9:29pm] jokeefe: all in favor?
[9:29pm] srevilak: aye
[9:30pm] jokeefe: aye
[9:30pm] Igel: ayw
[9:30pm] Garret: aye
[9:30pm] Garret: (Thomas Robert Malthus, British economist, born February 17, 1766.)
[9:30pm] jokeefe: oh lord
[9:30pm] jokeefe: any opposed?
[9:31pm] passstab joined the chat room.
[9:31pm] jokeefe: hi passstab
[9:31pm] passstab: hi jokeefe
[9:32pm] Garret: can we call it the Thomas Robert Malthus's Whistleblower Day?
[9:32pm] jokeefe: ha ha no
[9:32pm] jokeefe: try not to be associated with Malthus
[9:33pm] jokeefe: motion passes then
[9:34pm] jokeefe: On Arisia, anyone going besides srevilak & myself?  We are having a crypto party / campaign training at it
[9:34pm] jokeefe: Also, aegis, would you be able to find us a place to hold a campaign training in Feb. in W. Mass?
[9:35pm] ageis: I can see what spaces are available
[9:35pm] jokeefe: thank you!
[9:35pm] ageis: how big ? do we need it for free?
[9:35pm] jokeefe: pref. free, 10-20
[9:35pm] jokeefe: people
[9:35pm] ageis: okay!
[9:36pm] Joe: I will be trying to make it to Arisia
[9:37pm] jokeefe: thank you
[9:38pm] jokeefe: great
[9:38pm] jokeefe: Just a reminder about the 1/11, Honor the Memory of Aaron Swartz; Demand Carmen Ortiz's Job protest
[9:39pm] Garret: 1/11... i'll be sure to come out.
[9:39pm] Garret: bullhorn?
[9:39pm] ageis: theres a new piece on Boston Magazine about Swartz http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/article/2014/01/02/bob-swartz-losing-aaron/
[9:39pm] srevilak: I have to be out of town that weekend 
[9:39pm] jokeefe: cool on both counts aegis & Garret - so, Boston banned smoking in public parks, right Garret?
[9:40pm] jokeefe: directed at cannabis smokers
[9:40pm] Garret: HA HA HA HA HA. ya... ya, they tryin.  official, the ban is in effect now. passed unanimously
[9:40pm] jokeefe: 1/18 Boston Common Smoke Out/Vape Up! protest
[9:40pm] Garret: on the surface it's targeted against all smokers and vaporizers, cannabis and tobacco... but really it is a sideshot at Masscann
[9:40pm] jokeefe: and then periodically until done?
[9:40pm] Garret: MassCann and the cannabis movement
[9:41pm] Garret: these will be monthly on the 3 weekend (saturydas, except April cause 4/20 is sunda)
[9:41pm] jokeefe: just cannabis, or tobacco also?
[9:41pm] Garret: both
[9:41pm] Garret: all of the above
[9:41pm] Garret: $250 to smoke on the common
[9:41pm] Garret: tobacco, cannabis, smoking, vaping (e-cigs)
[9:41pm] Garret: we're gonna have it all
[9:42pm] Garret: to smoke on ANY boston park
[9:42pm] jokeefe: thanks! folks in favor of endorsing the protest?
[9:42pm] Garret: i can go into a rant here...  but here's the https://www.facebook.com/events/642274562499212/
[9:42pm] Igel: lool
[9:43pm] Igel: you shouldnt smoke in the park
[9:43pm] Garret: why?
[9:43pm] Garret: it's open air
[9:44pm] jokeefe: cars do it
[9:44pm] Garret: cars do WORSE, in much greater quantity
[9:44pm] srevilak: I think it's a bad ordinance, which will only be selectively enforced
[9:44pm] jokeefe: aye
[9:44pm] Garret: exactly! seletive enforcement is my gripe
[9:44pm] Igel: cars dont throw ciggs on the grass
[9:44pm] jokeefe: then enforce the littering laws
[9:45pm] Garret: cars drip antifreeze, oil, gas, and a dozen other chemicals into the environment all day
[9:45pm] Igel: but theres no police there
[9:45pm] Garret: exactly, it's not enforceable, and if they do enfroce, the can only do it selectively. it's not reasonable and it's contrary to liberty.
[9:45pm] Igel: if cars drip anti freeze, then they would over heat and break down, same goes for oil
[9:45pm] Garret: enforce a littering fine: I'll back that all day
[9:45pm] davidd: so only in parks
[9:45pm] Igel: if they leaked gas they wouldnt pass inspection
[9:45pm] ageis: RMRECONNS
[9:45pm] ageis: oops
[9:45pm] davidd: smoking on sidewalks still allowed?
[9:46pm] Garret: Igel, my car did it for 5 years. put a gallon in every week of antifreeze
[9:46pm] Bluestreak joined the chat room.
[9:46pm] Igel: well
[9:46pm] Igel: you should have cut it 1/2 with water
[9:46pm] jokeefe: davidd, yes, I believe it is only in parks
[9:46pm] davidd: hi Bluestreak
[9:46pm] Bluestreak: Meep
[9:46pm] jokeefe: hi Bluestreak
[9:46pm] Bluestreak: Sorry all
[9:46pm] Bluestreak: *I WAS ASLEEP*
[9:47pm] srevilak: Bluestreak: http://masspirates.org/wiki/January_2nd,_2014_IRC_Meeting#Participants
[9:47pm] Bluestreak: (Rough day)
[9:47pm] srevilak: item 1.5
[9:47pm] srevilak: er, 1.6
[9:47pm] Garret: I did cut it with Water, lol. not the point.
[9:47pm] Igel: oooh
[9:47pm] Igel: hey
[9:47pm] Garret: and yes, any PARKS are fined, not the street
[9:47pm] Igel: Garret i thought this was a littering ban
[9:47pm] jokeefe: debating 1/18 Boston Common Smoke Out/Vape Up! protest
[9:47pm] Bluestreak: No will
[9:48pm] davidd: have a great night all
[9:48pm] Bluestreak: Not about littering
[9:48pm] jokeefe: good night davidd
[9:48pm] Bluestreak: u2 d
[9:48pm] davidd: and if you happen to have a clear sky tonight, have a look at jupiter
[9:48pm] Igel: hey i think this is a problem
[9:48pm] Bluestreak: Blizzard here d
[9:48pm] Garret: no, it's a smoking ban, not littering. it's even targeting vaporizers.. which don't litter.
[9:48pm] davidd: its the brightest diamond in the sky, vevry easy to spot with this new moon
[9:49pm] Bluestreak: The fact that it is about vaping too...
[9:49pm] Igel: so this is pretty lame
[9:49pm] Bluestreak: really points to it being a counter to the successful drive against peohibition
[9:49pm] Igel: sorry for arguing the littering thing...
[9:49pm] Garret: i feel this is a continuation of the fiasco w the Freedom Rally, where City Council fought us on the permits and won limited success in cutting us back (but failed because we rallied bigger andbadder anyways)
[9:49pm] Bluestreak: Agreed
[9:50pm] Igel: yeah
[9:50pm] Garret: it's gonna be billed as "spontaneous" so no individual can be easily targeted for harassment.
[9:50pm] Bluestreak: Lucia Fiero (eep)
[9:51pm] Igel: i think its safe to say, people litter with tobacco more than with grass
[9:51pm] Bluestreak: There is also the point that smoking in general is a social thing
[9:51pm] Garret: oh definitely. it's gross. i yell at people for kickin butts in the park.
[9:52pm] jokeefe: if spontaneous, maybe we shouldn't endorse, Garret?
[9:52pm] Bluestreak: No we should endorse!
[9:52pm] Garret: nah, can still endorse
[9:52pm] Garret: spontaneous to say that there is no ring leader
[9:52pm] Garret: ...although, ya know... lol
[9:53pm] Bluestreak: TPTB don't like gaggles of prolitariat lurking together... possibly scheming...
[9:53pm] jokeefe: lgel, you still have concerns?
[9:54pm] Bluestreak: I assume you don't smoke Will? Neither do I.
[9:54pm] Igel: negative, clearly this is not a ban on littering and cigg filters for sake of the park and recs..
[9:54pm] jokeefe: ok, moving to a vote, all in favor?
[9:54pm] jokeefe: thanks, lgel
[9:54pm] Garret: aye
[9:54pm] Bluestreak: aye
[9:54pm] Igel: aye
[9:54pm] srevilak: aye
[9:54pm] jokeefe: aye
[9:55pm] jokeefe: Joe?
[9:55pm] jokeefe: zby_?
[9:55pm] jokeefe: any opposed?
[9:57pm] Joe: I may or may not have fallen asleep for a bit
[9:57pm] Joe: I'm in favor
[9:57pm] Bluestreak: LOL
[9:57pm] Garret: heh. Lu Lu did it to you
[9:57pm] jokeefe: motion passes, thanks Joe
[9:58pm] Bluestreak: I DID!
[9:58pm] jokeefe: We are almost at and end, just want to check on suggestions for places for the Valentines Day Fundraiser - democracy center is taken
[9:58pm] jokeefe: could do a different date
[9:59pm] jokeefe: later in Feb.
[9:59pm] Bluestreak: I t can still have the Valentines theme later in the month
[10:00pm] Bluestreak: Can we party in the dem ctr?
[10:00pm] jokeefe: or just a pirate theme
[10:01pm] jokeefe: yes, they have concerts
[10:01pm] Bluestreak: I say later in Feb is fine.
[10:01pm] jokeefe: Sat. March 1st is available
[10:01pm] Bluestreak: We need time to recover from Arisa and the Ball anyway
[10:02pm] jokeefe: not much time 
[10:02pm] Bluestreak: I *lik* it
[10:02pm] Bluestreak: lol
[10:02pm] Bluestreak: ooops
[10:02pm] jokeefe: nope, got my months wrong
[10:02pm] jokeefe: plenty of time
[10:03pm] Bluestreak: maybe you need a nap
[10:03pm] jokeefe: All in favor of Sat., March 1st for the Pirate Party fundraiser?
[10:03pm] jokeefe: at Democracycenter.org?
[10:03pm] Bluestreak: aye
[10:03pm] srevilak: aye
[10:03pm] Joe: aye
[10:04pm] Igel: aye
[10:05pm] jokeefe: need time to setup - book book for 5pm+ or 6pm+?
[10:05pm] jokeefe: aye
[10:05pm] Bluestreak: 5
[10:05pm] Garret: aye
[10:05pm] srevilak: 5pm sounds good
[10:06pm] jokeefe: end time?
[10:06pm] Bluestreak: Before midnight or I will turn into a pumpkin
[10:06pm] srevilak: how about 10pm?
[10:07pm] jokeefe: so 11pm, to deal with cleanup?
[10:07pm] srevilak: sounds reasonable
[10:07pm] Bluestreak: we drinking?
[10:07pm] Bluestreak: imbibing allowed?
[10:08pm] Bluestreak: at dem ctr?
[10:08pm] jokeefe: good question, will need to find out
[10:08pm] Bluestreak: I was thinking end at 11 clean until 12
[10:08pm] Bluestreak: 5 to 12 too long to book it?
[10:09pm] jokeefe: can request it
[10:09pm] jokeefe: so any opposed?
[10:09pm] Bluestreak: just a suggestion
[10:10pm] Kendra joined the chat room.
[10:10pm] jokeefe: hi Kendra
[10:10pm] Kendra: Hi sorry so late, I can look at the notes
[10:10pm] Bluestreak: HI K
[10:10pm] jokeefe: motion passes
[10:11pm] Kendra: Hi Everybody
[10:11pm] Igel: back in MI?
[10:11pm] Bluestreak: HIIIIIII
[10:11pm] jokeefe: 3/1/2014 fundraiser - Democracy Center
[10:11pm] jokeefe: putting the request in now
[10:11pm] Bluestreak: Thanks, J!
[10:11pm] Kendra: Yes in Michigan.  That sounds like a good date, less competition than valentines
[10:12pm] • Igel afk
[10:12pm] jokeefe: BTW: this page is really useful - http://www.studentcity.com/blog/when-is-my-spring-break/
[10:12pm] jokeefe: for planning
[10:12pm] jokeefe: I love the internet
[10:12pm] Garret: ...so you can party down at Spring Break, Jokeefe?
[10:13pm] Bluestreak: Um
[10:13pm] Bluestreak: Yeah. That's it.
[10:14pm] jokeefe: lol
[10:14pm] jokeefe: request sent
[10:15pm] Bluestreak: So I was late n all but we are over time.
[10:15pm] Garret: look at this one
[10:15pm] Garret: Lu Lu...
[10:15pm] Garret: tsk tsk tsk
[10:15pm] jokeefe: yes, anything else folks cannot wait until next meeting to discuss?
[10:16pm] Bluestreak: Campaign training at 1...
[10:16pm] Bluestreak: Oh
[10:16pm] srevilak: nothing here
[10:16pm] Bluestreak: video?
[10:16pm] jokeefe: that would be good.
[10:16pm] Bluestreak: Anyone videoing it? so .... no?
[10:17pm] jokeefe: I can bring my camera, but only 720p with limited zoom
[10:17pm] Bluestreak: My flip cam is pretty good, but I have to figger how to hook it up to the mac
[10:18pm] Garret: use the cord
[10:18pm] Garret:
[10:18pm] Garret: night!!!!
[10:18pm] Bluestreak: Oh so you can help me
[10:18pm] jokeefe: night, Garret
[10:18pm] Bluestreak: Night G
[10:18pm] Garret left the chat room. (Quit: Web client closed)
[10:18pm] Bluestreak: Yeah that was all I wanted to know
[10:18pm] jokeefe: bring a tripod 
[10:18pm] Bluestreak: kk
[10:19pm] Kendra: I'll look over the meeting notes, see you all soon.  Nite.
[10:19pm] Kendra left the chat room. (Quit: Web client closed)
[10:19pm] jokeefe: motion to adjourn
[10:19pm] Bluestreak: 2nd
[10:19pm] jokeefe: all in favor?
[10:19pm] srevilak: aye
[10:19pm] Bluestreak: Goodnight peeps
[10:19pm] Bluestreak: aye
[10:19pm] ageis: kk
[10:20pm] Joe: goodnight
[10:21pm] jokeefe: aye
[10:21pm] jokeefe: good night all, thank you!
[10:22pm] Bluestreak: Gnight jokeefe
[10:22pm] jokeefe: good night, Bluestreak
[10:22pm] srevilak left the chat room. (Quit: Excessive packet loss.  Blame NSA)
[10:22pm] jokeefe: thanks again, ageis, for looking for a place to have a W. Mass. candidate training