June 13th, 2013 IRC Meeting
- General Meeting, Sun., June 16th, 2-4pm
- Committee Reports
- Event Review
- Boston Pride Parade - June 8th
- Scheduled Events
- Speakers & Schedule
- Cryptocurrency Conference
Quick Notes / Summaries Re Proposed Bills to be Discussed:
A reminder that we have a General Meeting on Sun., June 16th, 2-4pm. It will be at REDACTED. If you are Facebook and plan to attend, please join the event.
Conferences tend to take a lot of our time. We need to be finding and preparing candidates for 2014. Having a cryptocurrency conference in Sept. will likely be a distraction from our election plans in 2014 and getting our platform finalized. Jokeefe suggests cancelling it.
- Bluestreak: Lucia Fiero
- srevilak: Steve Revilak, Arlington
- Kendra_: Kendra Moyer, Arlington
- black_van - Sevan
- jokeefe - James O'Keefe, Somerville
- davidd: David van Deijk, Eindhoven, NL
Speakers & Schedule
Have the following panels:
- Open Gov.
- Government surveillance in 2020
- Old and new cyber security legislation
- Don't Agonize, Organize!
srevilak will ask if we can go longer.
Finishing the discussion on email.
jokeefe: hi all [8:45pm] Bluestreak: Is soccer season over!?! [8:48pm] jokeefe: yes [8:54pm] srevilak: hi all [8:54pm] Bluestreak: I was listening Jill and Rene on UnRegular Radio... it's over now. [8:55pm] Bluestreak: Sup Steve? [8:55pm] srevilak: I'm about to answer a question you posted a few days ago [8:55pm] srevilak: https://www.loomio.org/discussions/4532 [8:57pm] Bluestreak: I reached out to Kevin about this. Hey Kevin! [8:57pm] Bluestreak: (Lurking there) [9:01pm] Bluestreak: Ping me when y'all are ready to start [9:02pm] Kendra_ joined the chat room. [9:03pm] jokeefe: hi [9:03pm] jokeefe: sorry distracted by loomio discussions [9:03pm] jokeefe: Agenda at http://masspirates.org/wiki/June_16th,_2013_General_Meeting [9:03pm] jokeefe: Want to keep this short since we have the meeting on Sunday [9:04pm] srevilak: works for me [9:04pm] jokeefe: Who will be at Cease & Desist rally on Friday? [9:04pm] Bluestreak: Not me. [9:04pm] jokeefe: bad me going out of order [9:04pm] jokeefe: starting ids - James O'Keefe, Somerville [9:04pm] Kendra_: Hi. Where and when is the rally? [9:04pm] Bluestreak: Lucia Fiero [9:04pm] srevilak: Steve Revilak, Arlington MA, or thereabouts [9:05pm] Kendra_: Kendra Moyer Arlington, MA [9:05pm] srevilak: I don't think I'll make it out of work in time [9:05pm] Bluestreak: Hye Kendra [9:05pm] Kendra_: 'sup [9:05pm] Bluestreak: Fridays are usually bad for me [9:06pm] jokeefe: 1. Committee reports [9:06pm] jokeefe: web - site moved over, still more to do [9:06pm] black_van joined the chat room. [9:06pm] black_van: Hey [9:07pm] Bluestreak: Hello there [9:07pm] jokeefe: hi black_van [9:07pm] jokeefe: Bluestreak, please run the meeting, I will be back soon [9:07pm] Bluestreak: LOL [9:08pm] srevilak: (more web) I've been tintering with statusnet. Might be worth setting up an instance at some point [9:08pm] Bluestreak: Tell us more about that. [9:09pm] Bluestreak: No pressure [9:09pm] srevilak: it's the software that runs https://identi.ca/ [9:10pm] srevilak: Kind of a distributed, host-your-own twitter. w/o 140 char limitation [9:10pm] srevilak: and it does polls [9:11pm] Bluestreak: So what do you mean by setting up an instance? [9:11pm] srevilak: You can uses statusnet in two ways. Via the author's site (identi.ca), or you run it on your own site [9:12pm] srevilak: "set up instance" means "run on our site" [9:12pm] Bluestreak: So... you would put it on the blog? [9:13pm] srevilak: sort of. next to the blog. In the same way that wiki is next to the blog [9:13pm] jokeefe: sounds good [9:13pm] Bluestreak: And it's like Twitter? [9:13pm] Bluestreak: Oh you're back! [9:14pm] srevilak: yes, basically like twitter. [9:14pm] srevilak: The author has a vision of social web sites that work like email [9:14pm] srevilak: w/email any two people can exchange messages. Regardless of mail provider [9:14pm] srevilak: Social sites should work the same way [9:14pm] srevilak: Anyway, done digressing [9:15pm] Kendra_: I have a bunch of flyers for the conference left and might be able to go Friday. I am also going to the Allied Media Conference in Detroit next week, so let me know if I should carry forth a Pirate Party message there. it seems like surveillance is the hot topic. Also I don't know if I can add this, but I have been talking with the Socialist Alternative for about a month and they have gotten Irish native Seamu [9:16pm] jokeefe: did you get cut off Kendra_? [9:17pm] Bluestreak: Certainly you should network with any MA based media you meet out there. [9:17pm] Bluestreak: Flyers are good. [9:17pm] passstab joined the chat room. [9:17pm] jokeefe: hi passstab [9:17pm] jokeefe: agree with Bluestreak [9:18pm] Bluestreak: If Kendra is taking a break... [9:18pm] Kendra_: Too many periods. Support= a couple of things, but I am on a fishing expedtion to figure out if they are in sync with the Pirate Party and getting mixed reviews. They are leftists and Marxists, but international unioniists. I don 't know what endorsing/supporting this candidate would entail, outside of promoting third party candidates They are not a registered political party. [9:18pm] Bluestreak: I'd like to talk about the D'Ambrosio PC plan? [9:18pm] Bluestreak: Oops shes back [9:19pm] Bluestreak: You can always focus on coalition building when you cant directly build the party [9:20pm] Bluestreak: Then drift can occur between groups [9:21pm] Kendra_: This is where organizing gets tricky, building alliances and figuring out what the skeletons in the closet might be. PP is actually a registered party while SA is not, if that matters. Not to break from the agenda though. [9:21pm] jokeefe: If he wants our endorsement, then he should ask for it. Suggest putting it on Sunday's agenda [9:22pm] Bluestreak: We work with Occupy and they arent a party either [9:22pm] jokeefe: I will be at Cease & Desist rally tomorrow. Anyone else? [9:22pm] Kendra_: Sounds like a plan, we can discuss on Sunday and I'll fishout the details. [9:22pm] Kendra_: I am off work tomorrow and will do my best to make it. [9:23pm] Bluestreak: Have fun storming the castle! [9:24pm] Bluestreak: Will you also have time Friday to get Guy back on line? [9:24pm] jokeefe: great, lets keep in touch. it looks like the march starts at 5:30pm from Dewey Sq. [9:24pm] Bluestreak: Do they even have an ISP any longer? [9:25pm] jokeefe: ? [9:25pm] jokeefe: any other committee reports besides the democracy/tech's ? [9:25pm] Bluestreak: Sorry thought you were done [9:25pm] black_van: our post on reddit recieved 2000 vies [9:25pm] jokeefe: no didn't understand the question [9:26pm] srevilak: I might be able to make 5:30. Might as well go down and see who's there [9:26pm] jokeefe: cool, black_van [9:26pm] Bluestreak: I'd like to talk about the D'Ambrosio PC plan? [9:27pm] jokeefe: I am trying to get it to them. possibly tomorrow evening [9:27pm] Bluestreak: So *after* the rally? [9:28pm] jokeefe: yes [9:28pm] srevilak: jokeefe: do you still have that dilemma we spoke about earlier? [9:28pm] jokeefe: no, I think I have it. I will test it in the morning [9:28pm] jokeefe: thanks! [9:29pm] Bluestreak: If Jamie is too busy Steve, maybe you and I could take care of it Saturday? [9:29pm] srevilak: I can write out the answer and leave it in your mailbox [9:29pm] srevilak: Bluestreak: sure, we can drop off a CPU on sat. [9:29pm] srevilak: if jokeefe is too busy [9:30pm] jokeefe: That sounds even better! [9:30pm] Bluestreak: So If you can get the PC to Steve, I will make sure he gets there. [9:30pm] Bluestreak: Arlington is much easier right? [9:30pm] jokeefe: Works. Need to get the monitor from EG. [9:30pm] Bluestreak: My monitor doesnt work? [9:30pm] jokeefe: yes, Arlington is great [9:31pm] jokeefe: It does, but EG's is newer [9:31pm] srevilak: well, just let me know what you need me to do [9:31pm] Bluestreak: Oh, OK [9:31pm] Bluestreak: I will ask Evan if he wants to go, too. Road trip! [9:32pm] srevilak: I can also bring a second Mint machine, if need be [9:32pm] Bluestreak: Why didnt you say so sooner? [9:32pm] jokeefe: Evan was planning, but needed a ride. Perhaps, you two could connect and go up together. He knows where they live. [9:32pm] jokeefe: Yours were newer [9:32pm] jokeefe: Bluestreak [9:32pm] Bluestreak: LOL [9:33pm] Bluestreak: We can work this out later by email [9:33pm] jokeefe: yes [9:33pm] srevilak: agreed [9:33pm] Bluestreak: Just eager to get it done [9:33pm] jokeefe: next - 2nd Cammy Dee Probable Cause hearing - June 27th - we already endorsed, just need to get people to it. [9:34pm] Bluestreak: Ok thanks Im good [9:34pm] Bluestreak: I will be there. [9:34pm] Bluestreak: The hearing I mean [9:34pm] srevilak: think I can make it too [9:34pm] jokeefe: good [9:34pm] Bluestreak: Cool [9:35pm] Bluestreak: Do you need a ride Steve? [9:35pm] Kendra_: If you let me know what time on the 27th i might be able to to attend. [9:36pm] Bluestreak: I will drive you too its at 11 [9:36pm] jokeefe: morning, most of day, Kendra_ [9:36pm] srevilak: Bluestreak: let me see if lawrence is near commuter rail [9:36pm] jokeefe: No NSA Spying Protests, July 4th - https://www.facebook.com/events/261815483960367/ [9:36pm] Bluestreak: OK [9:36pm] jokeefe: endorse? [9:36pm] Bluestreak: I will be in Manhattan [9:36pm] Bluestreak: Oh yeah sure [9:37pm] jokeefe: good you can go to a protest there [9:37pm] Bluestreak: yes endorese [9:37pm] Bluestreak: You dont know my mother in law [9:37pm] srevilak: aye, endorse [9:37pm] ageis: hello Bluestreak I am here [9:37pm] jokeefe: count that as 2nd [9:37pm] Bluestreak: Hello Kevin! [9:37pm] jokeefe: hi ageis [9:37pm] ageis: hi hi [9:37pm] jokeefe: all in favor, besides Bluestreak and revilak [9:37pm] jokeefe: ? [9:37pm] jokeefe: aye [9:38pm] Kendra_: aye. about time. [9:38pm] srevilak: POI: lawrence court is 12 min. walk from Lawrence station on Haverill Commuter rail [9:38pm] Bluestreak: Take a look Kevin https://www.loomio.org/discussions/4532 [9:38pm] Bluestreak: Well I will drive ppl who want to be driven [9:38pm] ageis: cool who do we have out herE? [9:39pm] Bluestreak left the chat room. (Quit: Web client closed) [9:39pm] jokeefe: invited ageis to loomio [9:39pm] Bluestreak joined the chat room. [9:40pm] ageis: got it [9:40pm] Bluestreak: I got booted [9:40pm] jokeefe: any opposed to endorsing No NSA Spying Protests, July 4th [9:41pm] jokeefe: welcome back Bluestreak [9:42pm] jokeefe: any abstentions? [9:43pm] black_van: yes, me [9:43pm] jokeefe: really? [9:43pm] jokeefe: lol [9:44pm] black_van: i dont really think its important. if people are gonna go ppl are going to go. [9:44pm] jokeefe: good point [9:44pm] jokeefe: ok, then motion passes [9:44pm] jokeefe: other events are: [9:44pm] jokeefe: Cameron D'Ambrosio Fundraiser, Lowell, July 6th, 8pm [9:44pm] jokeefe: Art Beat, Somerville, July 19-20th [9:44pm] jokeefe: Pirate Picnic, George's Island, August 3rd [9:45pm] jokeefe: but don't need endorsements [9:45pm] jokeefe: ok, conference [9:45pm] jokeefe: getting people's final schedules so can lock down the schedule [9:45pm] Bluestreak: I endorse the fundraiser! [9:46pm] Bluestreak: (I like to dance!) [9:46pm] Bluestreak: Sry [9:46pm] jokeefe: ++dance [9:46pm] srevilak: re conference: set email earlier, looking for Don't agonize, organize panelists [9:46pm] Bluestreak: I'm almost done with Swarmwise [9:46pm] jokeefe: srevilak, did you get a chance to contact john s. about wifi? [9:47pm] Bluestreak: Pretty quick readin actually [9:47pm] srevilak: jokeefe: sorry, no [9:48pm] srevilak: I write to john [9:48pm] Kendra_: Yeah I emailed CS university department heads for additional speakers, and got no replies. At this stage and with recent revelations, I am guessing there will be plenty to say. [9:48pm] srevilak: re, I'll write to john [9:48pm] jokeefe: thanks, srevilak [9:49pm] jokeefe: can anyone recommend someone to record the panels? [9:49pm] jokeefe: there microphones at CCoB, yes srevilak? [9:49pm] srevilak: yes, there are microphones [9:49pm] Kendra_: We can check with Maurice? [9:49pm] srevilak: Kendra_: think Doug greene would be interested in recording? [9:50pm] Kendra_: I can ask him, he's reasonable. [9:50pm] Bluestreak: We can ask them both see who is more enthusiastic [9:50pm] srevilak: ok, thx [9:50pm] jokeefe: thanks! [9:50pm] Bluestreak: I'll ask Maurice... [9:50pm] Kendra_: i also have a camera, thugh not a digital. I have a decent wide lens web camera. [9:51pm] jokeefe: bring it. [9:52pm] Bluestreak: So... we need equipment, too? [9:52pm] jokeefe: srevilak, can we go in and take a look at the audio equipment? [9:53pm] srevilak: they have a peavey xr-600c amplified 6 channel mixer [9:53pm] srevilak: couple of unidirectional mics [9:53pm] Kendra_: I have some microphones and a few canon cameras, though they do not have higher memory cards. I have a Microcenter gift card with some $ on it and might be able to get a 16GB memory card for the conference. [9:54pm] srevilak: I've been to CCB enough to have seen the audio equipment. [9:54pm] Bluestreak: Because I have a tape camera that can be patched through a computer for digital capture. [9:54pm] jokeefe: so we need a wire from the mixer to the recording device. [9:54pm] Bluestreak: I can bring my laptop [9:54pm] Kendra_: Will these videos be on the PP site? (Which looks very nice , by the way) [9:54pm] jokeefe: bring them, just in case. I have tripod and some other things. [9:55pm] srevilak: jokeefe: I'll check Peavey's specs on mixer. I'd imagine 1/4 mono line out. [9:55pm] Bluestreak: I haz tripod, too [9:55pm] jokeefe: cool [9:55pm] jokeefe: yes, we can put them up at the youtube account. [9:56pm] jokeefe: thanks srevilak [9:56pm] Bluestreak: OK. Jason is the guy who hooks up the AV rigs in this house, but he will be there, so... [9:56pm] jokeefe: good [9:56pm] jokeefe: where are we going for dinner? [9:57pm] Bluestreak: We never decided [9:57pm] Bluestreak: I suggest the Globe since it is RIGHT FREAKING THERE [9:57pm] Bluestreak: Same store front [9:57pm] Bluestreak: I was thinking I would get into Copley on Sat to see if it is up to par [9:58pm] Bluestreak: But y'all could decide from this list (one sec) [9:58pm] Kendra_: There's also the lennox Hotel Restaurant across the way.. [9:58pm] Bluestreak: http://www.walkscore.com/places/restaurants-and-bars/near/565-boylston-st-boston-ma-02116 [9:59pm] Bluestreak: Lennox is Posh, yes? I like posh but it isnt for everyone [10:00pm] jokeefe: probably [10:00pm] Bluestreak: The Vlora looks cool [10:00pm] Bluestreak: I think Pret a Manger is like Panera [10:01pm] Bluestreak: Skipjacks is excellent [10:01pm] Bluestreak: How ppl feel about seafood? [10:01pm] jokeefe: Maybe we could just have the menus, take votes at the conference and pick then, or do we need reservations? [10:01pm] Kendra_: I am not particular about this. there are a bunch of nice restaurants on Mass ave up the street too that seem reasonable. [10:02pm] Bluestreak: Need for reservations depends on the place [10:02pm] Bluestreak: Skipjacks prolly [10:02pm] Bluestreak: Let talk about this Sunday [10:02pm] Bluestreak: Is that ok? [10:03pm] Kendra_: Sounds like a plan [10:04pm] jokeefe: anything we haven't discussed? [10:04pm] Bluestreak: jokeefe? [10:04pm] Bluestreak: oh so thats settled [10:05pm] jokeefe: do folks want to have folks vote at the conference or pick a place before the conference? [10:06pm] Bluestreak: *looks at agenda* [10:06pm] Bluestreak: I vote we discuss it Sunday [10:06pm] srevilak: maybe prepare a list of a few places, then decide @ conf? [10:06pm] Bluestreak: Perhaps near the end? [10:07pm] Bluestreak: Personal preferences are better discussed in person I think [10:08pm] jokeefe: I am ok with deciding a short list on Sunday, then having folks at the conference vote and calling in reservations before we leave. [10:09pm] Kendra_: sounds good. So motion to adourn? [10:09pm] Bluestreak: LOL [10:09pm] jokeefe: 2nd [10:09pm] Bluestreak: Tired Kendra? [10:09pm] black_van: peace [10:09pm] black_van left the chat room. (Quit: Web client closed) [10:09pm] Kendra_: Very tired [10:10pm] jokeefe: sleep sounds good [10:10pm] Kendra_: i'll see you guys at the rally tomorrow. 'Nite. [10:10pm] Bluestreak: Now it's time... to say... goodnight,,, [10:10pm] jokeefe: niit, Kendra_ [10:10pm] Kendra_ left the chat room. (Quit: Web client closed) [10:10pm] Bluestreak: Goodnight... sleep tight... [10:10pm] jokeefe: good night all [10:11pm] srevilak: 'night