June 20th, 2013 IRC Meeting

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  1. Conference
    1. Outreach
    2. Logistics
    3. Speakers & Schedule
  2. Events
    1. 2nd Cammy Dee Probable Cause hearing - June 27th
    2. No NSA Spying Protests, July 4th
    3. Cameron D'Ambrosio Fundraiser, Lowell, July 6th, 8pm
    4. Pirate Night, July ?
    5. Art Beat, Somerville, July 19-20th
    6. Pirate Picnic, George's Island, August 3rd
  3. National Affairs

Quick Notes / Summaries Re Proposed Bills to be Discussed:



  • Bluestreak: Lucia Fiero
  • srevilak: Steve Revilak, Arlington
  • jokeefe - James O'Keefe, Somerville


  • davidd: David van Deijk, Eindhoven, NL
  • ageis
  • passstab
  • illunatic
  • Shidash
  • rocode





Speakers & Schedule

Scheduled Events

National Affairs

Meeting Minutes


[9:02pm] jokeefe: Agenda at: http://www.masspirates.org/wiki/June_20th,_2013_IRC_Meeting [9:02pm] jokeefe: Hope to keep this to at most an hour [9:02pm] jokeefe: start with ids - James O'Keefe, Somerville [9:02pm] srevilak: Steve Revilak, Arlington [9:02pm] Bluestreak: Lucia Fiero [9:04pm] jokeefe: 1. Conference [9:04pm] jokeefe: Outreach - Fliers done tomorrow, I believe. [9:05pm] Bluestreak: Reconnecting brb [9:05pm] Bluestreak left the chat room. (Quit: Web client closed) [9:05pm] jokeefe: I can drive them to folks [9:05pm] srevilak: jsaylor and I are working out wireless setup [9:05pm] jokeefe: good [9:05pm] Bluestreak joined the chat room. [9:05pm] Bluestreak was granted voice by [4Q]. [9:05pm] jokeefe: hi [9:05pm] Bluestreak: [9:05pm] jokeefe: jokeefe: I can drive them to folks [9:05pm] jokeefe: [9:05pm] srevilak: jsaylor and I are working out wireless setup [9:05pm] jokeefe: [9:05pm] [9:05pm] [4Q] set a limit on the number of room members to 17. [9:06pm] jokeefe: Got a lot to distribute. [9:07pm] srevilak: I can do some leafletting during the week. Harvard sq and thereabouts [9:07pm] jokeefe: Thanks. Cafes and places people can look at them and decide if they want them, is probably best. [9:07pm] srevilak: k [9:07pm] Bluestreak: Josh Scafidi will be handing out flyers for his fundraiser at the hearing on the 27th. Thought I might hand out some of ours there, too. [9:07pm] jokeefe: I will drop them off to you and whomever wants them. [9:08pm] jokeefe: You and jsaylor have the wifi covered [9:08pm] Bluestreak: I must have 100 event flyers and... [9:08pm] Bluestreak: Only about 10 trifles. [9:08pm] jokeefe: good name for them. [9:09pm] jokeefe: Want me to get you more? [9:09pm] Bluestreak: Today is Thurs. I bet if you popped some trifolds in the mail tomorrow i would have them in plenty of time [9:09pm] Bluestreak: lol trifles was a typo [9:09pm] Bluestreak: I'm on a Mac now, Autocorrect. [9:10pm] Bluestreak: A mac is more practical than jewelry. [9:10pm] Bluestreak: Speaking of which I will have it and the camera and tripod for the event [9:11pm] Bluestreak: Jason and I are going to try to find time this weekend to install our video capture card and do a trial run [9:11pm] jokeefe: thank you. Mail is easy. I will mail them as soon after I receive them as I can. [9:12pm] Bluestreak: Send them first class, though, OK [9:12pm] Bluestreak: Or priority... not that expensive. [9:12pm] jokeefe: Aye aye! [9:13pm] jokeefe: Do we have a short list for places to eat? [9:13pm] jokeefe: Or even a long list. [9:13pm] Bluestreak: So we are moving on from AV? [9:14pm] jokeefe: More reports are good. [9:15pm] Bluestreak: ? [9:15pm] jokeefe: What else is there for AV? [9:16pm] srevilak: I'll bring adapters, to take line out of mixer [9:17pm] Bluestreak: Well, nothing I guess, since I didn't hear back from Maurice... [9:17pm] jokeefe: thank you. [9:17pm] jokeefe: please keep calling [9:17pm] Bluestreak: He siad he would help but he never answered the question of what kind of storage he needed [9:17pm] Bluestreak: I would have, but I've been harried this week. [9:18pm] jokeefe: When you can. I have an extra usb hard disk if he needs it. [9:18pm] Bluestreak: How big? [9:19pm] jokeefe: Don't remember. Many GB I believe. [9:19pm] jokeefe: I will test to be sure. [9:20pm] Bluestreak: Best guess is fine for now [9:20pm] Joe joined the chat room. [9:20pm] Joe was granted voice by [4Q]. [9:20pm] Joe left the chat room. (Client Quit) [9:21pm] [4Q] set a limit on the number of room members to 18. [9:21pm] Joe joined the chat room. [9:21pm] Joe was granted voice by [4Q]. [9:21pm] Joe: hello [9:21pm] [4Q] set a limit on the number of room members to 18. [9:21pm] srevilak: hi Joe [9:22pm] jokeefe: hi Joe [9:22pm] Bluestreak: Hey Joe! Whaddaya know? [9:22pm] jokeefe: Schedule [9:22pm] Bluestreak: Using Safari for autoscroll, Joe? [9:22pm] Joe: No i figured I would give firefox a shot [9:23pm] jokeefe: Posted a schedule. May need to adjust. Hopefully not. [9:23pm] Bluestreak: Anything but Chrome apparently [9:23pm] Bluestreak: oops [9:23pm] Bluestreak: tried to back that out [9:23pm] jokeefe: Should we have moderators for the panels? [9:24pm] srevilak: I guess it could depend on what form we want the panels to take [9:25pm] srevilak: Are panelists giving short monologues, having a discussion amongst themselves [9:25pm] srevilak: or taking questions? [9:25pm] jokeefe: probably all three [9:26pm] srevilak: Hmm .. maybe a moderator would be good. Even just for intros, and to guide the discussion [9:28pm] srevilak: We can also ask individual panels whether they'd like moderation [9:29pm] srevilak: Looking at schedule, I'd think we need three moderators (for panels with > 2 people) [9:30pm] jokeefe: ok, well we can play it by ear then and see what they want to do. [9:30pm] srevilak: I'm happy to moderate if needed [9:31pm] srevilak: would also be good to switch male vs female moderators [9:31pm] jokeefe: thank you & agreed. [9:32pm] srevilak: That's my subtle way of volunteering Lucia to moderate a panel [9:32pm] Joe: If you need any more moderators I'd be willing [9:32pm] Bluestreak: Whatever you menfolk think is best, sirs. [9:33pm] jokeefe: We bow before the wisdom of the more sensible gender. [9:34pm] srevilak: in terms of logistics, we should be able to get in @ 8am. [9:34pm] jokeefe: So then we have three candidates for moderators: srevilak, Bluestreak and Joe. Good now I can schmooz. [9:34pm] jokeefe: great! [9:34pm] srevilak: What stuff must we make sure to bring? [9:34pm] davidd: great! [9:34pm] jokeefe: hi davidd [9:35pm] srevilak: morning, davidd [9:35pm] davidd: how much merchandise do you guys have? [9:35pm] davidd: tshirts, flags, stuff like that [9:35pm] davidd: perhaps a few hardcopies of safeharbour [9:35pm] jokeefe: not many. can get more. [9:35pm] jokeefe: we also need name tags [9:36pm] Bluestreak: Jason just walked in the door 24 hours early to surprise me. Just tell me what you want me to do by email. My will is but to serve. [9:36pm] davidd: so what is the lowball of attendancee? [9:36pm] davidd: thanks Bluestreak [9:36pm] Bluestreak: Goodnight gentlemen [9:36pm] jokeefe: glad he is home. night [9:37pm] Bluestreak left the chat room. (Quit: Web client closed) [9:37pm] jokeefe: haven't done a count on attendence [9:37pm] davidd: i suggest we move to vote that Bluestreak will do everything [9:37pm] jokeefe: 2nd! [9:37pm] davidd: and then close [9:37pm] srevilak: [9:37pm] jokeefe: that wouldn't be very Pirate of us [9:37pm] jokeefe: or maybe it would be … hmmm [9:38pm] jokeefe: white on black or black on white for shirts? [9:38pm] srevilak: white on black [9:38pm] davidd: i think its about 50 50 [9:38pm] davidd: the hackers on the one hand get black tshirts everywhere [9:39pm] ageis left the chat room. (Remote host closed the connection) [9:39pm] davidd: it doesnt matter which you pick, people will complain [9:39pm] passstab joined the chat room. [9:39pm] passstab was promoted to operator by [4Q]. [9:39pm] passstab was granted voice by [4Q]. [9:39pm] davidd: perfect bikeshedding example [9:39pm] jokeefe: true, and more options the higher the cost. [9:39pm] [4Q] set a limit on the number of room members to 17. [9:40pm] davidd: buy one kind for this event [9:40pm] davidd: buy the other kind some next time [9:40pm] jokeefe: by my count, we should have at least 25. [9:41pm] davidd: do you have some kind of greenroombasket for the speakers? [9:41pm] jokeefe: no green room [9:41pm] jokeefe: fairly small space [9:41pm] davidd: ok let me rephrase that [9:41pm] davidd: a giftbasket for the guests? [9:42pm] davidd: some swag, yolo [9:42pm] ageis joined the chat room. [9:42pm] ageis was granted voice by [4Q]. [9:43pm] [4Q] set a limit on the number of room members to 18. [9:44pm] jokeefe: good idea. [9:45pm] jokeefe: Anything else to cover on the Conference? [9:47pm] davidd: yes [9:47pm] davidd: the afterparty [9:47pm] davidd: is any restaurant counting on you guys? [9:48pm] davidd: sell tickets at piratecon for something called "the social event" [9:48pm] jokeefe: yes, going to take a poll, then make reservations. [9:48pm] davidd: $25 a head and go to some chinese selfservice [9:51pm] jokeefe: good idea [9:52pm] jokeefe: black_van is setting up a night out event for sometime after the conference. hopefully will be monthly. will advertise it at the conference. [9:54pm] davidd: yes! [9:54pm] davidd: awesome [9:54pm] davidd: make sure it is not just drinking though [9:54pm] davidd: have some kind of piraterelated activity each month [9:55pm] davidd: most people have enouhg friends they dont see often enough that they dont need an extra "drinking gang" [9:55pm] davidd: if you do it without activity, my experience is people will stop showing up [9:56pm] jokeefe: thanks for the suggestion. what type of activities do you have? [9:56pm] srevilak: davidd: what kind of activities do you suggest? [9:56pm] davidd: it can be as small as picking a subject for debate ahead of the night [9:57pm] davidd: i think us pirates call them "planks" usually [9:57pm] davidd: 5 planks, so you should be settled for half a year [9:57pm] davidd: media training, practice interviewing on eachother [9:58pm] davidd: or on a movie night you can pick some pirate movies [9:58pm] jokeefe: thank you [9:58pm] Joe: good ideas [9:59pm] davidd: the more constructive activity you pick the better will be the crowd next month [9:59pm] davidd: people like building things [9:59pm] davidd: help the party to grow [9:59pm] davidd: that is more important than drinking [9:59pm] davidd: if they were interested in drinking they have had taken up some other hobby [10:01pm] jokeefe: Bluestreak isn't here to talk about the last national party meeting, so I suggest adjourning. Would like to catch up on my sleep. [10:01pm] davidd: lucia had fun with kusanagi [10:01pm] davidd: i can send you the logs [10:01pm] davidd: :-P [10:02pm] davidd: i wasnt paying attention enough to do a report myself [10:03pm] jokeefe: how are things there? [10:03pm] davidd: i just read a bit of backlog [10:03pm] davidd: they are gonna contact EFF [10:03pm] davidd: to cosupport one of their petitions [10:03pm] davidd: so you guys want to help me for like 5 minutes? [10:04pm] davidd: https://antiprism.piratenpartij.nl/ <- please read this and tell me if you would sign this if you were a european pirateparty [10:05pm] davidd: i have no power over the text so i only require a yes/no awnser [10:07pm] jokeefe: yes [10:08pm] srevilak: yes [10:08pm] Joe: yes [10:08pm] davidd: thanks [10:09pm] davidd: i dont think i can come up with anything else [10:09pm] davidd: for the conf [10:09pm] jokeefe: thanks for your help. [10:09pm] davidd: thank you guys for letting me help organise [10:10pm] jokeefe: constructive help is always appreciated. [10:10pm] jokeefe: motion to adjourn? [10:10pm] davidd: 2nd [10:10pm] srevilak: aye [10:11pm] Joe: aye [10:11pm] srevilak: more stuf [10:11pm] srevilak: stuff: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/20/fisa-court-nsa-without-warrant [10:11pm] davidd: who posts most of the stuff on masspirates twitter? [10:12pm] srevilak: that would be jokeefe [10:12pm] davidd: i use those links when i see them [10:12pm] jokeefe: glad you like them. [10:13pm] jokeefe: how do you "inadvertently" collect something we you ask for everyone's data? [10:13pm] davidd: my collection of links is on the dutch pirateparty website [10:14pm] Joe: They meant to check my facebook and accidentally downloaded my hard drive [10:15pm] davidd: https://www.piratenpartij.nl/aggregator/sources/1 <- lots of links, i guess about half of them is english language articles [10:15pm] jokeefe: funny, Joe [10:16pm] davidd: the NSA is as trustworthy on this as your naked neighbour you just discovered in your bedroom closet stuttering "it's not what you think" [10:17pm] davidd: so when is next meeting? [10:17pm] davidd: thursday just before the piratecon? [10:18pm] jokeefe: yes [10:18pm] Joe: lol [10:21pm] jokeefe: ok, motion to adjourn passes.