June 6th, 2013 IRC Meeting
- 1 Agenda
- 2 Quick Notes / Summaries Re Proposed Bills to be Discussed:
- 3 Participants
- 4 Summary
- 5 Meeting Minutes
- General Meeting, Sun., June 16th, 2-4pm
- Committee Reports
- Event Review
- Scheduled Events
- Boston Pride Parade - June 8th
- 2nd Cammy Dee PC hearing June 27th
- PirateCon 2013 June 29th
- Working with Evan Greer to get the D’Ambrosisos back on line
- Speakers & Schedule
- Cryptocurrency Conference
Quick Notes / Summaries Re Proposed Bills to be Discussed:
A reminder that we have a General Meeting on Sun., June 16th, 2-4pm. It will be at REDACTED. If you are Facebook and plan to attend, please join the event.
Free Cameron D'Ambrosio
Cameron D'Ambrosiois a Methuen 18 year-old high school student who made a rap song that the kids around town didn't like and was charged with inciting terrorism. They picked him up not that long after the Boston Bombing, but found no weapons or bomb making materials. They seized his family’s only computer for analysis, but after 30 + days they haven’t gotten around to it. Maybe if they spent less money on street tanks and body armor and outfitting SWAT teams, they would have the money to hire what they seem to think are the the required analysts. He is being held without bail. On June 3rd the prosecution was granted a delay for the probable cause hearing. He was sent back to jail until his next PC hearing date, Thursday, June 27th. We need to pack the courtroom with QUIET and RESPECTFUL supporters. (The crowd on the 3rd was a bit rowdy.) If you can get to Lawrence district court on that date please come appropriately attired. Court is in session at 9 am, but people who came late on the 3rd didn’t miss much. His hearing was finally called around 11:30.
We should call for all charges to be dropped and endorse his freedom say stupid or “offensive” things. Here is the Facebook event.
Conferences tend to take a lot of our time. We need to be finding and preparing candidates for 2014. Having a cryptocurrency conference in Sept. will likely be a distraction from our election plans in 2014 and getting our platform finalized. Jokeefe suggests cancelling it.
- Bluestreak: Lucia Fiero
- srevilak: Steve Revilak, Arlington
- Kendra: Kendra Moyer, Arlington
- black_van - Sevan
- jokeefe - James O'Keefe, Somerville
- davidd: David van Deijk, Eindhoven, NL
Jason and Lucia Fiero attended the Bradley Manning solidarity demonstration on June 1st at Park Street. Lucia said a few words and invited folks to come see David House speak at Pirate Con. Everyone there took both fliers. Lucia distributed fliers to MA resident Turks protesting on the common in solidarity with the Gezi Park protesters in Istanbul.
Garret attended Int'l Day of Privacy Protest - June 1st at the Roxbury Fusion Center. (I asked Garret for a brief report. Waiting.)
Boston Pride Parade - June 8th
Nine marchers so far.
Distributed 1000 of our 2000 flyers.
Speakers & Schedule
Have the following panels:
- Open Gov.
- Government surveillance in 2020
- Old and new cyber security legislation
- Don't Agonize, Organize!
srevilak will ask if we can go longer.
Finishing the discussion on email.
21:11 <@srevilak> ok, intros 21:11 <@srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA 21:11 <+Bluestreak> Lucia Fiero 21:11 <+GarretK> Garret Kirkland, Winchester, MA 21:11 <+shep> Marc Shepard, Rehoboth, MA 21:11 <+Bluestreak> shep ? 21:11 <@srevilak> Agenda is http://masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=June_6th,_2013_IRC_Meeting 21:12 <+Bluestreak> oops 21:12 <@srevilak> Report from Bradley Manning solidarity demonstration? 21:12 <+Bluestreak> Two Pirates in attendance 21:12 <+Bluestreak> Jason and myself. Maybe 40 ppl there 21:13 <@srevilak> how was the reception? 21:13 <+Bluestreak> When I told them David House would be speaking at PirateCon everyone took flyers 21:13 <@srevilak> awesome 21:13 <+Bluestreak> They seem to like my remarks. Jason videoed that. 21:13 <@davidd> awesome 21:14 <+Bluestreak> Nice ppl 21:14 <+Bluestreak> Good networking opportunity, too. 21:14 <+Bluestreak> It was only an hour so... 21:14 <@davidd> ow bluestreak you make me all warm and fuzzy inside 21:14 <+Bluestreak> Didnt have enough power in Jason phone to recored the whole thing 21:15 <+Bluestreak> Aw DD! 21:15 <@davidd> did anyone show a sincere interest in the pirateparty? 21:15 <@davidd> outside of the david house on piratecon i mean 21:15 <+Bluestreak> yeah! 21:15 <@davidd> potential volunteers 21:15 <+Bluestreak> Yes, but afterwards even more so because... 21:15 <+Bluestreak> There was a demo on the common 21:16 <+Bluestreak> of Turks in solidairty with 21:16 <+Bluestreak> the Gezi Park protesters and every MA resident Turk I spoke to... 21:16 <@davidd> when wikileaks was taken down ppnl delivered the first servers before the mirroring started 21:16 <+Bluestreak> Was very interested in their internet rights, the lack of media coverage etc 21:17 <@davidd> ppfr, ppnl and ppse ran the servers, ppch took care of the dns 21:17 <+Bluestreak> So I handed out ALL THE REST OF MY FLYERS 21:17 <@srevilak> That's great 21:18 <@davidd> so how many people were there and how many of them do you expect at piratecon? 21:18 <+Bluestreak> So yeah thats my report for that 21:18 <+Bluestreak> Turks? like 200+ 21:18 <+Bluestreak> Much bigger demo for Gezi than for BM 21:18 <@srevilak> For piratecon, Jamie may be able to give # on registrations 21:19 <@davidd> i meant at the manning rally 21:19 <@davidd> or were the turks there also? 21:19 <+Bluestreak> OK we'll ask him when he gets here 21:19 <+Bluestreak> no 21:19 <+Bluestreak> 40 tops at BM demo 21:19 <+Bluestreak> Average ppl dont even know who he is 21:20 <+Bluestreak> A LOT of passers by stopped to learn about him though 21:20 <+Bluestreak> So that was good 21:20 <+Bluestreak> The Turks were all over on the other side of the common (in the shade... we were in the SUN!) 21:21 <+Bluestreak> (Smart ppl) 21:21 <+GarretK> (yup!) 21:21 <+Bluestreak> :-) 21:21 <@srevilak> GarretK: you had an update on Cam? 21:21 <+GarretK> indeed 21:22 <+GarretK> are we all up to speed on the charges he is facing and what he was arrested and searched for? 21:22 <@srevilak> aye 21:22 <+Bluestreak> No 21:22 <+Bluestreak> Please leaborate 21:22 <+Bluestreak> why is he still facing charges? 21:22 <+GarretK> ok, i'll run it through as succinct as possible 21:22 <+Bluestreak> I dont understand how that works 21:23 <+GarretK> so far as today's events 21:23 <+GarretK> there is the probable cause hearing coming that the grand jury needed to pass an indict down in order for the prosecutors to proceed on the 27 21:23 <+GarretK> on june 27 i am expecting the entire charade to collapse, but you still have to go through the process 21:24 <+GarretK> he's out on his own recognizance after the grand jury did not indicy 21:24 <+GarretK> indict^ 21:24 <+Bluestreak> Oh good well I will be there 21:24 <+GarretK> all very good signs that our presence on Monday, June 3, made a huge impact on the course of this 21:24 <+Bluestreak> I really like Guy and Brianna. Good ppl 21:24 <+Bluestreak> Thank you for organizing that! 21:24 <@srevilak> Where's the hearing on the 27th? 21:25 <+GarretK> so right now, i am still recruiting for the June 27 hearing 21:25 <+GarretK> Lawrence District Court, Lawrence MA 21:25 <+GarretK> 2 Appleton St 21:25 <+GarretK> 11:00 AM 21:25 <+Bluestreak> Ooh I had the time wrong 21:26 <+GarretK> This time will be a second call hearing, the Defender is coming up from Chelsea or something from another court, so the Judge on monday put it to second call 21:26 <+GarretK> the entire prosecution hinged on this grand jury indictment (formal accusation) 21:27 <@srevilak> Anything we can do for support? (Besides coming on 27th?) 21:27 <+Bluestreak> GIVE MONEY 21:27 <+Bluestreak> LOL 21:27 <+GarretK> Well, the hearing is one. We have a benefit show coming up, looks like the first week of July. 21:27 <+GarretK> that will be to help the costs for the family 21:27 <+Bluestreak> So we can share that widely 21:28 <+GarretK> we'll have actions moving forward to seek accountability for the prosecutor, Methuen's chief, and others 21:28 <+GarretK> oh ya, share share share. i WANT everyone there. let the hecklers come to. they will help us with their presence, showing how these punk kids used the State to bully Cam 21:28 <+Bluestreak> I want to wait until the charges are dropped before publicizing that much 21:29 <+GarretK> wait to publicize what? 21:29 <+Bluestreak> We doont want them to try to hang on to this to cover their asses 21:29 <+GarretK> they've got nothing left 21:29 <+GarretK> it doesn't matter 21:29 <@davidd> i'd like to publish the story on the dutch website when appropiate 21:29 <+Bluestreak> Accountabilty 21:30 <+GarretK> right now we have a PR victory that MUST be taken advantage of 21:30 <+Bluestreak> plenty of time for that after the charges are dropped 21:30 <+GarretK> this isn't about Cam, this is about Freedom of Speech 21:30 <+Bluestreak> Well that is my two cents 21:30 <+GarretK> we have momentum now 21:30 <+GarretK> they went from 1 mil bail, to no bail for 90 days, to cam's release on his own recog today (day 37) 21:30 <+GarretK> carpe diem! 21:31 <+GarretK> so that's the report. 20 folks at the court monday, two of us pirates 21:31 <+Bluestreak> As a Mom I see a boy who looks like my own kid in 6 years... 21:31 <+Bluestreak> It was awesome 21:31 <+Bluestreak> Garret did a great job! 21:31 <+GarretK> we also looked amazing, if i can say that much 21:31 <+GarretK> ;) 21:32 <+Bluestreak> True dat 21:32 <+GarretK> make sure anyone on the Face finds me and our event page. i'm keeping it very updated 21:32 <+GarretK> we also have a video from KOPProductions coming out tonight 21:32 <+Bluestreak> Dont go yet garret 21:32 <+Bluestreak> IDP report, too! 21:32 <+GarretK> it was hot 21:32 <+GarretK> lol 21:33 <+GarretK> that is all..... j/k. ok.... 21:33 <+GarretK> so about 12 of us were out there 21:33 <+Bluestreak> We drove by... 21:33 <+GarretK> i think i may be the only pirate in attendance, mostly MassOps and Anons, plus Alex from Warrantless/CDFAR/Digital Fourth 21:33 <+Bluestreak> Jason was too sick to stay 21:34 <+Bluestreak> Saw a guy dressed as Gitmo priz 21:34 <+GarretK> we had a man up orange jumpsuit and blackbagged in front of the BRIC, did some bullhorning and shot some vid 21:34 <+GarretK> yup^ 21:34 <+GarretK> and huge props to him, who is nameless 21:34 <+Bluestreak> (in the heat!0 21:34 <+Bluestreak> Where is the vid? 21:35 <+GarretK> there was no foot traffic to speak of really, got some attention from the busy intersection 21:35 <+GarretK> police stayed inside, didn't even come out 21:35 <+GarretK> i am not sure where the vid is. MassOps someone or other would know 21:36 <+GarretK> I came to support them and brought my bullhorn (and obviously the message, which is HUGE to me) 21:36 <+Bluestreak> davidd http://massops.weebly.com/ 21:36 <+Bluestreak> Love the bullhorn BTW 21:37 <+GarretK> it's my baby 21:37 <+GarretK> even bears Immortal Tech's signature. ;) 21:37 <+Bluestreak> Too cool! 21:38 <+Bluestreak> Make sure to post a link to the KOP vid BTW 21:38 <+GarretK> as soon as i get it from KOP i'm blasting it everywhere 21:38 <+Bluestreak> TY 21:39 <+GarretK> i'll def slap it up on your Face, too 21:39 <+GarretK> :P 21:40 <@srevilak> Are we ready to move to upcoming events? 21:40 <+Bluestreak> I'm good 21:41 <+GarretK> that pretty much covers everything on the BRIC, and my bullhorn. so yup 21:42 <@srevilak> Thanks for the updates GarretK 21:42 <+GarretK> happy to be here to do it 21:42 <+GarretK> ;) 21:42 <@srevilak> Pride parade - any notes from the marshalls? 21:43 <+Bluestreak> I hate to say they are predicting rain but... 21:44 <+Bluestreak> Also the staging schedule will be posted tomorrow 21:44 <@srevilak> yes, I heard that 21:44 <@srevilak> Are we staging in same area as last year? 21:44 <@srevilak> hey Joe 21:44 <+Joe> hello, running a little late 21:44 <+Bluestreak> We will meet by the Hynes 21:44 <@srevilak> np, happens 21:44 <+Bluestreak> Hey Joe 21:45 <+Bluestreak> Yeah so Jamie and I working out how to get all of our crap there 21:45 <@srevilak> I'm working on parade chants. If you have something catchy, please send me a copy 21:45 <+Bluestreak> (I was actually hoping he'd be here by now) 21:46 <+Joe> no worries, we can figure something out 21:46 <+Bluestreak> Chants are NOT my forte 21:46 <+Bluestreak> Well I want to get at least one car... 21:46 <+Bluestreak> into the staging area. 21:47 <+Bluestreak> Because we have the wagon ship, cases of water, the banner... 21:47 <@srevilak> Sounds like we have a lot of flyers to hand out 21:47 <+Bluestreak> All heavy stuff 21:47 <+Joe> Hmm 21:47 <+Bluestreak> that is another thing 21:47 <+Bluestreak> Jamie asked for someone to print more...? 21:47 <@srevilak> I (and maybe Kendra) are riding down with Jamie, and I think the wagon 21:47 <+Joe> I assumed Jamie was going to the staging area 21:47 <+Bluestreak> I would but IDK who to use 21:48 <+Bluestreak> I would gladly run the stuff I have over to Somerville tomorrow night. Or to you in Arlington Steve 21:48 <+Bluestreak> I assumed that too. 21:49 <+Bluestreak> We will have to talk about this bit later 21:49 <@srevilak> We can talk logistics on activists@. Jamie needs to be part of that discussion 21:49 <+Bluestreak> yes, definitely 21:50 <@srevilak> speak of the devil 21:50 <+Bluestreak> lol 21:50 <@srevilak> hey jokeefe 21:50 <@jokeefe> hi 21:50 <+Bluestreak> Hey hung up without you here 21:50 <@srevilak> just started discussing parade logistics 21:50 <+GarretK> captain on deck! 21:50 <+GarretK> LOL. SORRY 21:50 <+Bluestreak> Talking about staging the parade 21:50 <+GarretK> i gotta go guys. thank you again! 21:50 <@jokeefe> k 21:50 <@srevilak> :) 21:51 <+Bluestreak> No THANK YOU1 21:51 <+Bluestreak> ! 21:51 <@srevilak> do we still need to get flyers printed? 21:51 <+Bluestreak> I would but IDK who to use 21:52 <+Joe> welcome 21:52 <@jokeefe> flyers arrived today 21:52 <+Bluestreak> lol nice of you to mention that 21:52 <@srevilak> excellent. We ran through 200 pretty quickly last year. More = better, I think 21:52 <@davidd> can i put another topic on the agenda of this meeting? 21:52 <@jokeefe> they were at the door when I got in 10 min ago :-) 21:52 <+Bluestreak> So we are all set with flyers then? 21:53 <@srevilak> davidd: sure 21:53 <@jokeefe> Bluestreak, yes 21:53 <@davidd> i'd like to brainstorm about the NSA verizon thingy, wheter masspirates could do some media 21:53 <+Bluestreak> Jamie and Sevan are already working that into the parade promo et 21:54 <@srevilak> Irony - for parade, we have people dressed up as pirates, and people dressed as NSA 21:54 <@davidd> not bad 21:54 <+Bluestreak> Perfect timing 21:54 <@srevilak> idea was to chase each other around. Theatre 21:54 <@srevilak> The timing is good 21:54 <@davidd> but please add this and continue with the topic we were on 21:54 <@srevilak> ok 21:54 <+Bluestreak> It's DESTNY! 21:55 <+Bluestreak> This is the year of the Pirate! 21:55 <@srevilak> back to parade logistics. 21:55 <@jokeefe> aye 21:55 <@srevilak> I guess Kendra and I are riding w/ jokeefe + stuff 21:55 <+Bluestreak> So can we get a car into the staging area? 21:55 <+Bluestreak> And if so, whose? 21:56 <+Bluestreak> Because we have a lot of heavy stuff 21:56 <@jokeefe> I have a wagon 21:56 <+Bluestreak> So can I get the water and banner and stuff to you tomorrow? 21:56 <@jokeefe> sure 21:57 <+Joe> If you need help tomorrow I will be around 21:57 <@jokeefe> how heavy? 21:57 <+Bluestreak> OK. I have to drive Sam to Marlboro. 21:57 <+Bluestreak> I got two cases of water though one may be enough 21:57 <+Bluestreak> A canvas bag or gear with first aid kit inl. 21:58 <@srevilak> NWS calling for highs in 70s. Not too hot 21:58 <+Bluestreak> The banner. 21:58 <+Bluestreak> And some costumes 21:58 <+Bluestreak> a few hats, some "tatoo" sleeves, pretty cool actually 21:59 <+Bluestreak> I have something adorable for Keryn to wear if she is coming, Joe 21:59 <+Bluestreak> (I will hold on to that) 22:00 <+Bluestreak> Some sunglasses. 22:00 <+Bluestreak> it will fit in the wagon 22:00 <+Bluestreak> But it would be a pain to take on the subway 22:01 <+Joe> haha, well I will know by tomorrow 22:01 <+Bluestreak> So when I am out dropping Sam I can bring the stuff by 22:01 <@srevilak> I'll bring plastic bags, twine 22:01 <+Bluestreak> I have clear plastic bags, too 22:01 <+Bluestreak> Cinching, at that 22:01 <@srevilak> (if it rains, need something to hold the flyers) 22:02 <+Bluestreak> Couple of umbrellas AND sunscreen. All bases covered 22:02 <+Bluestreak> Ziploc bags/ 22:02 <@davidd> if it is rainy and coldish it is better to have hot drinks 22:02 <+Bluestreak> I'll bring some 22:02 <@davidd> not much interest in bottles of water then 22:02 <+Bluestreak> not drinks 22:03 <@srevilak> Sounds like logistics are looking okay. Anything else? 22:03 <+Bluestreak> I will still get thirsty 22:03 <@jokeefe> so do you want to park near the start or end? 22:03 <+Bluestreak> So long as I don't have to haul the stuff on the subway, I'm happy 22:04 <+Bluestreak> I was going to park at Fenway, but I guess parking at Gov ctr makes more sense 22:04 <@jokeefe> the end is at gov ctr 22:04 <+Bluestreak> I was concerned streets would be closed 22:05 <+Bluestreak> Should I be? 22:05 <@davidd> i expect it will be bigger this year, gay is hot these days 22:05 <+Bluestreak> LOL! 22:05 <@jokeefe> boylston is open until 11am I think 22:05 <@davidd> what was it like last year? 22:05 <+Bluestreak> Yes very sexy! 22:05 <@srevilak> Once staging starts, streets are pretty packed, except for parade vehicles 22:06 <+Bluestreak> If i take the pike to south station I can double back... 22:07 <+Joe> That might work 22:07 <+Bluestreak> I don't need to get much BACK from you after it is over capn 22:07 <+Bluestreak> So I dont think it will matter if I am parked near you or not. 22:08 <+Bluestreak> Just my canvas bag...? 22:08 <@jokeefe> sure, we could walk back 22:09 <+Bluestreak> I would take the T back to Fenway 22:09 <+Bluestreak> right? 22:10 <@jokeefe> kind of hard with a wagon 22:11 <@jokeefe> hi para 22:11 <+Bluestreak> true 22:11 <+para> hai 22:11 <@srevilak> w/2 people, wagon on T isn't too bad 22:11 <@srevilak> take elevator :) 22:11 <@jokeefe> sorry, forgot to id, James O'Keefe, Somerville 22:11 <+Bluestreak> Avery says hi 22:11 <+para> I heard something bout a pride parade, considering im LGBT im gonna lurg 22:11 <+para> *lurk 22:11 <@srevilak> welcome para 22:11 <@srevilak> thanks for lurking 22:11 <@jokeefe> sure, we would love for you to march with us if you want 22:11 <+para> ill chime in if I have something to say in that respect 22:12 <@jokeefe> hard to get a wagon up onto the green line trains 22:12 <+para> I am in maryland, and am sadly not going to be handing out flyers at Capitol Pride 22:12 <+Bluestreak> Are you gonna march? 22:12 <@jokeefe> sure thing, para 22:12 <+Bluestreak> Oh 22:12 <+para> Yeah 22:12 <+Joe> Welcome 22:12 <+Joe> I would say I'm lurking but my chat never scrolls down 22:13 <+Bluestreak> Mine neither, Joe! 22:14 <+Bluestreak> So we settle that the Captain and Co will be parking at Gov ctr 22:14 <+Bluestreak> But I still havent decided where I will park 22:14 <@jokeefe> I would prefer to park near copley 22:14 <+Bluestreak> Can you? 22:15 <@jokeefe> can park at pro if you arrive early enough or on newbury st. 22:15 <@jokeefe> at pru 22:17 <+Bluestreak> I'm having decision anxiety 22:17 <@srevilak> Bluestreak: toss a coin :) 22:17 <+Bluestreak> I don't like crowds. 22:17 <+Bluestreak> I dont like traffic 22:18 <+Joe> lolol 22:18 <+Joe> You're going to a parade where you walk in traffic and are surrounded by crowds 22:18 <+Bluestreak> My first instict is near Fenway. Failing that I will move further east Copley or Govt ctr 22:19 <+Bluestreak> It's my dedication to the party that is making me brave it. 22:19 <+Joe> I think Fenway would be a good place 22:19 <@jokeefe> why don't you and Joe drive in together? 22:19 <+Bluestreak> I'm done discussing this bit! 22:19 <+Bluestreak> We are 22:19 <+Joe> I'm not sure how far away it is, I don't know the city well 22:19 <+Bluestreak> Hopefully Keryn too 22:20 <+Bluestreak> I do, Joe 22:20 <+Bluestreak> Which reminds me Joe, when i give you an arrival time dont be late! 22:20 <+Joe> Batman is never late 22:21 <+Bluestreak> LOL 22:21 <@srevilak> anything else to work out for parade? 22:22 <+Bluestreak> I should ask at the FB event page... 22:22 <+Joe> I'm not sure if it needs to be said, but wear comfortable sneakers 22:22 <+Bluestreak> if anyone needs costumeing support 22:22 <@srevilak> the pushy moderator would like to wrap up by 22:40 :) 22:22 <+Joe> I will wear my suit, but I'm definitely wearing my running shoes 22:23 <+Joe> or casual walking 22:23 <@jokeefe> anything on the todo list that isn't covered? 22:23 <+Bluestreak> I am going to wear cheap vinyl boots, but I put gel soles into them. They feel comfy. 22:23 <+Bluestreak> *looks at list* 22:23 <@davidd> cant wait to see the pics 22:24 <@srevilak> Going down http://masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=June_6th,_2013_IRC_Meeting 22:24 <@srevilak> Conference next? 22:25 <@jokeefe> Was 2nd Cammy Dee PC hearing June 27th discussed? 22:25 <@srevilak> jokeefe: yes. GarretK gave an overview 22:26 <@srevilak> I have one short update on conf. 22:26 <+Bluestreak> Yeah. When garret was here 22:26 <@jokeefe> sure what is the update, srevilak? 22:26 <@srevilak> Wrote CCB, asking about going longer (9-ish?). Also asked for details about remitting balance of pmt 22:26 <@srevilak> waiting to hear back 22:27 <+Bluestreak> i will remind him to share it with the activist list as well as on FB 22:27 <@srevilak> that's all from me, re: conference 22:27 <@jokeefe> k 22:27 <+Bluestreak> So if we go long will we still need an eatery? 22:27 <@jokeefe> maybe 22:28 <@jokeefe> probably 22:28 <+Bluestreak> I was looking into that: http://www.walkscore.com/places/restaurants-and-bars/near/565-boylston-st-boston-ma-02116 22:28 <+Bluestreak> Jason and I were hoping to check some of these out in person. 22:29 <@jokeefe> cool 22:29 <+Bluestreak> I need to know ppl's price range 22:29 <@jokeefe> Dave House is fine with giving the keynote 22:29 <+Bluestreak> and how far they are willing to walk 22:29 <@jokeefe> topic: Opening the Gates: How To Challenge Our Nation's Two-Party Monopoly 22:30 <@srevilak> I like the topic 22:30 <+Bluestreak> Storyville looks cool and being from NOLA Jason is partial but it is a little posh and two blocks walk 22:30 <+Bluestreak> Sorry 22:30 <+Bluestreak> Stopping now 22:30 <+Bluestreak> I like it too 22:31 <+Bluestreak> So need help fleshing it out? 22:31 <@jokeefe> I haven't focused on the conferen 22:31 <@jokeefe> sorry, been busy 22:31 <@srevilak> ahoy itspara 22:32 <@davidd> who is going to talk for the pp at the piratecon? 22:32 <+Bluestreak> When do you leave Mobile Messenger? 22:32 <@jokeefe> someone willing to contact folks about the schedule 22:32 <@jokeefe> next week, Bluestreak 22:32 <+Bluestreak> So things will be less hectic then or more? 22:33 <@jokeefe> who knows 22:33 <+Bluestreak> No kidding 22:33 <+Bluestreak> I'll do what I can to help 22:33 <@jokeefe> thanks 22:33 <+Joe> I can talk 22:34 <+Bluestreak> I could talk about organizing 22:34 <@jokeefe> that is one of our talks 22:34 <+Bluestreak> Oh and Jeff Taleda insists that every orgnaizer read Falkvinge's SWARMWISE 22:35 <+Bluestreak> Completely new angle on organizing 22:35 <@davidd> yes its good 22:35 <@jokeefe> can't wait for the whole book 22:35 <+Bluestreak> Ah you've read the bits that are out... is it all out now? 22:35 <+Bluestreak> Apparently not 22:35 <@jokeefe> not yet 22:36 <@jokeefe> any suggestions for the post for the parade/NSA spying? 22:36 <+Bluestreak> I have been focused on Cammy Dee and parade. 22:36 <+Bluestreak> I like Sevan's graphic... 22:37 <+Bluestreak> Whats yer angle? Funny serious? 22:37 <@jokeefe> both 22:38 <+Bluestreak> Not piratey but Lauren made me laugh today 22:38 <+Bluestreak> Put an eye of Sauron on the roof of the NSA 22:38 <@jokeefe> LOL 22:39 <+Bluestreak> Ppl loved it on my FB page. 22:39 <+Joe> I laughed 22:39 <+Bluestreak> I'm still laughing 22:40 <@srevilak> anything else for tonight? 22:40 <+Joe> I feel like the NSA is always searching for the one ring 22:40 <+Bluestreak> I am pretty depressed about the whole sitation acktly. Pathetic laughter 22:40 <@davidd> putting more hay on the haystack 22:41 <+Bluestreak> Maybe we should go with the LOTR angle 22:41 <@davidd> in the hope that makes the needle easier to find 22:41 <@davidd> put all verizon users on the terrorist watchlist 22:41 <+Bluestreak> What are they looking for? 22:41 <@jokeefe> kind of hard to find terrorists via their patterns if they have no unique patterns 22:41 <+Joe> Internet memes may serve purpose here 22:41 <@davidd> the NSA wasnt wiretapping them for nothing were they 22:41 <+Bluestreak> Nothing really 22:42 <+Bluestreak> just trying to frighten you 22:42 <@davidd> did all of you see this keynote of CCC 2012? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNsePZj_Yks 22:43 <+Joe> Meh, 7 years 22:43 <+Bluestreak> I know plenty of ppl who keep mum on line because they know Uncle Sam is watching 22:43 <@srevilak> Meh: http://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/191-press-releases-2013/869-dni-statement-on-activities-authorized-under-section-702-of-fisa 22:43 <@davidd> ow and that one guy: "nobody was complaining about this when it was done under bush" 22:43 <@jokeefe> actually they were 22:43 <+Bluestreak> SURE THEY WERE 22:44 <+Bluestreak> Glenn Greenwald wrote a book 22:44 <+Bluestreak> Whole chapter dedicated to warrantless wiretapping surveillance 22:44 <@davidd> it was glenn greenwald that broke todays story in the guardian yesterday 22:44 <@jokeefe> srevilak, if I switch the site over tonight, will it work? 22:44 <+Bluestreak> All over the internet 22:45 <@srevilak> yes, it should 22:45 <@davidd> you can test it by editing your host file 22:46 <@srevilak> As y'all have been chatting, I've been syncing up wiki pages 22:46 <@srevilak> davidd: good suggestion 22:46 <@davidd> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/27350/beginner-geek-how-to-edit-your-hosts-file/ 22:47 <@srevilak> Heh: https://twitter.com/MalwareJake/status/342834514185318400 22:47 <@jokeefe> thank you, srevilak 22:47 <@davidd> i really like how masspirates is growing 22:47 <@davidd> i think piratecon will be a big boost 22:47 <@jokeefe> thanks, davidd 22:47 <@jokeefe> hopefully 22:47 <@davidd> i hope all of you have had time to implement some of the volunteer tips falkvinge gives in swarmwise 22:48 <@davidd> have projectdescriptions ready for new people to get going 22:48 <+Bluestreak> #404 Article not found 22:49 <+Bluestreak> I will start reading Swarmwise after the parade. 22:49 <@davidd> url got changed Bluestreak/srevilak 22:49 <@davidd> new url http://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/191-press-releases-2013/869-dni-statement-on-activities-authorized-under-section-702-of-fisa 22:50 <+Bluestreak> TY 22:50 <+Bluestreak> BRB AJ needs me 22:51 <@davidd> i always tell our people off when they url switch after i already sent out the tweet 22:52 <+Bluestreak> I'm back 22:52 <@srevilak> More amusement: https://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=%40ODNIgov 22:53 <@davidd> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/03/bradley-manning-wikileaks-trial-aiding-enemy 22:54 <@davidd> so they changed the url from "unauthorized disclosure" to "authorized under 702" 22:54 <+Bluestreak> I'm losing focus 22:54 <@davidd> how orwellian of them 22:55 <@davidd> i think it is important masspirates does an outreach to state media on this subject 22:55 <@jokeefe> agreed 22:55 <@davidd> when the protector is worse than the threat 22:56 <@davidd> cure worse than ailment 22:56 <+Bluestreak> State media? 22:56 <@jokeefe> sorry folks, but I want to get some things moved over to get the site switched to the new one tonight. I would hate to have folks visit us on Sat. and find the current site. 22:56 <@davidd> local newspapers, tv stations in your state 22:56 <@davidd> srevilak have you tested it with the hosts trick? 22:56 <+Joe> This made me laugh : https://twitter.com/WannabeWarhol/status/342833804605521920 22:56 <@jokeefe> so I will focus on that, and pop in periodically 22:56 <@srevilak> let me try 22:56 <+Bluestreak> Sorry what? Want to wrap up? 22:57 <@davidd> if srevilak gives a go you can switch it right then 22:58 <@davidd> i still want to know who will speak on behalf of the masspp on piratecon 22:58 <@srevilak> jokeefe: looks great 22:58 <+Bluestreak> Have I hinted enough that I need to go? I am so beat tonight. 22:58 <@davidd> does that mean he can switch it over srevilak? 22:58 <@srevilak> davidd: yes, okay to switch 22:59 <@srevilak> I'll be around tomorrow morning, in case we need to do last minute fix ups 22:59 <@davidd> sun's already up overhere 23:00 <@davidd> srevilak, will the old site be reachable on some domain after the switch? 23:00 <@jokeefe> Bluestreak, I think we are done 23:00 <@jokeefe> masspirates.us probably 23:00 <+Bluestreak> I hope y'all don't mind if I take off early. I will communicate with the list after a good night's sleep 23:01 <+Bluestreak> Goodnight everyone! 23:01 <@davidd> thanks for being here tonight again bluestreak 23:01 <@davidd> have fun at the parade 23:01 <@davidd> ttyl 23:01 <@srevilak> yes, masspirates.us will work, but we need to remove rewrite rule that redirects .us -> .org 23:02 <@srevilak> Or, put "188.8.131.52 masspirates.org" in /etc/hosts 23:03 <@srevilak> Shall we have motion to adjourn? 23:03 <@jokeefe> sure 23:03 <@davidd> make a subdomain old.masspirates.us ? 23:04 <@srevilak> davidd: that would work. Or old.masspirates.org 23:04 <@srevilak> jokeefe: I'll make transcript of chat now, and post to both wikis 23:04 <@jokeefe> thanks! 23:04 <@srevilak> night all 23:04 <@jokeefe> night 23:04 <+Joe> goodnight