March 5th, 2015 IRC Meeting
- Mar. 4, Will's talks about MeshNets
- Endorse Move to Amends' call for the MA legislature to request an article V constitutional convention, to declare that corporations are not people, and money is not speech. They're looking for organizations to endorse their efforts.
- Event Planning
- Mar. 15, Boston Peace Parade
- Mar. 18, SCATV Pirate Show, 7pm
- Mar. 22, 2p - 4pm Cryptoparty, Worcester
- Jun. 13, Boston Pride Parade
- Sep. 19 & 20, Freedom Rally - Can register now
- Payment method?
- who's serving as point of contact?
- PirateCon 2015
- Program updates?
Defer to next meeting?
- Restore the 4th Bills - Jamie hasn't posted blog post about them. Will this weekend.
- Mar. 15, Boston Peace Parade
- Mar. 18, SCATV Pirate Show, 7pm
- Mar. 22, Cryptoparty, Worcester
- Apr. 25, PirateCon 2015
- May 6, International Day against DRM
- May, Together Boston Cryptoparty?
- Jun. 13, Boston Pride Parade
- Jun. event?
- Jul. event?
- Aug. event?
- Sep., Freedom Rally
- Oct. event?
- Nov. event?
- Dec. event?
Every Thu., Digital Fourth meeting, 11:20am-1:30pm, Voltage Cafe, Third Street, Cambridge
- jokeefe (James O’Keefe, Somerville)
- Bluestreak__ (Lucia Fiero)
- srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA)
Decide to endorse MTA's call for an article V constitution convention. We'll endorse, and can urge pirates to contact their legislators.
Peace parade is currently up in the year. Too much snow in South Boston for a parade. Seems like the organizers are considering alternate routes.
We're do for a phone banking. srevilak will work on importing contacts into civicrm.
SCATV Pirate Show. Next show (likely) on "The Right to Protest".
Worcester cryptoparty. Try to organize speakers for phone security, GnuPG, Jitsi. Worcester Linux Users group offered to help us promote the event.
21:03 < jokeefe> agenda - https://masspirates.org/wiki/March_5th,_2015_IRC_Meeting 21:03 < jokeefe> ids - James O’Keefe, Somerville 21:04 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA 21:04 < Bluestreak__> Lucia Fiero 21:05 < jokeefe> Review - Will's talks about MeshNets - how did it go? 21:05 < srevilak> wasn't able to make it 21:05 < srevilak> :( 21:05 < jokeefe> dang 21:06 < Bluestreak__> This winter has everybody down 21:06 < jokeefe> well perhaps igel will sign on later 21:06 < Bluestreak__> Tried to get to symphony Friday… nightmare... 21:06 < jokeefe> at least the snows didn’t start in Dec ;-) 21:06 < Bluestreak__> Will be staying out of the greater Boston area 21:06 < jokeefe> really depressing 21:06 < Bluestreak__> #firstworldproblems 21:06 < Bluestreak__> #thatslife 21:06 < jokeefe> Somerville is clearing snow, thankfully. 21:07 < jokeefe> bit by bit 21:07 < jokeefe> Decisions 21:07 < jokeefe> srevilak proposed Endorsing Move to Amends' call for the MA legislature to request an article V constitutional convention, to declare that corporations are not people, and money is not speech. They're looking for organizations to endorse their efforts. 21:07 < jokeefe> would you speak on it, srevilak? 21:08 < srevilak> jokeefe: that's a good summary. As I understand, they've got a proposed bill, and 62 sponsors and co-sponsors. 21:08 < srevilak> They're trying to collaborate with other organizations, to help spread awareness, and build support 21:08 < srevilak> endorse could mean 1 of 3 things 21:09 < srevilak> 1. We support you, can't do more at this time 21:09 < srevilak> 2. We support you, and we'll tell our group/members about it 21:09 < srevilak> 3. we'll actively work with you in the campaign 21:09 < srevilak> don't think we have the bandwidth for 3 21:09 < srevilak> but like have bandwidth for 1, 2 21:10 < jokeefe> 1 & 2 are easy. 21:10 < srevilak> Plus, endorsement could help get our name out there 21:11 < jokeefe> guess my concern with 2 is that we lend our name to it, tell others about it and then they go help move to amend, rather than be part of our effort to help with it. 21:11 < srevilak> With 2, I think that getting people to call legislators in the main goal 21:12 < jokeefe> so 3 would be preferable provided we are activating people to help us help them 21:12 < srevilak> Reviewing documents from https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/private/activists_masspirates.org/2015-March/002896.html 21:12 < jokeefe> for 2, we would need to get civi working right to support that. 21:13 < srevilak> civi is one option. Blog posts, social media are another option 21:13 < srevilak> (i.e., "call your legislator, ask them to support this bill ..." 21:14 < jokeefe> fair enough 21:14 < srevilak> Option 3 is "Active Coalition Member Organization: We apply to be an active member organization of the We the People Coalition of Massachusetts. We want to actively support the “We the People Act,” through membership activation, and staff or leadership involvement. We are willing to participate in monthly coalition meetings or calls." 21:14 < Bluelustreak> What I miss? 21:14 < srevilak> discussion tiers of involvement for MTA endorsement 21:15 < srevilak> Option 1 is: Legislation Endorsing Organization: We endorse the “We the People Act” and wish to be listed as an organizational endorser on promotional materials for the legislation. We cannot offer more support at this time. 21:15 < jokeefe> don’t have the bandwidth for 3, but we can ask people to step up and help coordinate 21:15 < jokeefe> might move us to 3 21:15 < srevilak> option 2: Legislation Supporting Organization: We endorse the “We the People Act”, and want to be listed as such. We can reach out to our members to ask them to contact their state legislators to voice support, at selected times of our choosing. We want to be informed periodically of the progress of the legislation and when our help is needed. 21:16 < jokeefe> deciding which to do. 21:17 < jokeefe> Bluelustreak, which level of support seems right to you? 21:17 < Bluelustreak> Honestly? 21:17 < Bluelustreak> I can't follow you two. 21:17 < jokeefe> what confuses you? 21:18 < Bluelustreak> MTA? 21:18 < srevilak> MTA = move to amend 21:18 < jokeefe> yes 21:18 < Bluelustreak> Say what you propose in less formal language and I will give you my thoughts 21:19 < jokeefe> 1. We support you, can't do more at this time 21:19 < jokeefe> 2. We support you, and we'll tell our group/members about it 21:19 < jokeefe> 3. we'll actively work with you in the campaign, including attending meetings 21:19 < Bluelustreak> 2 21:20 < jokeefe> I am fine with 2, agreed, srevilak? 21:20 < Bluelustreak> Don't realistically have time for more meetings 21:20 < Bluelustreak> Will defer to y'all but 21:20 < Bluelustreak> will not attend meetings 21:21 < srevilak> I like #2 21:21 < srevilak> at least for starters 21:21 < jokeefe> ok, 2 it is. srevilak, would you write a blog post on it, also asking if Pirates want to help more, esp. if they are already involved? 21:22 < srevilak> sure, can do blog post 21:22 < srevilak> I'll also write to MTA and let them know 21:22 < jokeefe> thank you. 21:23 < jokeefe> Event Planning 21:23 < jokeefe> Boston Peace Parade - did we ever tell them we were planning to show up? 21:23 < Bluelustreak> So many problems 21:24 < Bluelustreak> Has Daniel been in touch with you? 21:24 < jokeefe> yes 21:24 < jokeefe> there was a meeting recently 21:24 < jokeefe> heard the route changed on the news 21:24 < srevilak> jokeefe: yes, I told VFP we'd be showing up 21:24 < jokeefe> thank you 21:25 < Bluelustreak> Not able to commit at this time. Sorry. 21:25 < jokeefe> no worries 21:26 < Bluelustreak> :-) 21:26 < jokeefe> anyone up for calls to Bostonian Pirates next week? 21:26 < srevilak> jokeefe: any day in particular? 21:27 < jokeefe> no 21:27 < jokeefe> ahoy noe 21:27 < jokeefe> talking about Peace Parade - and calling people 21:27 < jokeefe> to turn out 21:27 < noe> ahoyahoy 21:28 < srevilak> jokeefe: how would you feel about putting phone list into civi, and doing phone banking out of there? 21:28 < jokeefe> sure 21:29 < srevilak> when you have a moment, look at contacts tagged as `volunteers' 21:29 < jokeefe> Can you log in and export, or should I export, or should we meet? 21:29 < jokeefe> ok 21:29 < srevilak> for the contacts tagged as volunteer, check out `activites' tab 21:29 < srevilak> I can export from mailchimp. 21:30 < srevilak> But remind me which list to use :) 21:30 < jokeefe> Everyone 21:30 < jokeefe> they are tagged by email, supporter, volunteer, etc. 21:31 < srevilak> ok. Can work on it this weekend 21:31 < jokeefe> thank you 21:31 < jokeefe> anyone able to make calls this weekend/next week? 21:31 < Bluelustreak> Pax East 21:32 < Bluelustreak> So not this w/e 21:32 < jokeefe> ok 21:33 < noe> i'll probably be writing a script for march 18 panel 21:33 < noe> may have time next week, but not this weekend 21:33 < jokeefe> understood 21:33 < jokeefe> quite understand 21:33 < srevilak> I can do imports this weekend. Not sure if I can get to calling, though 21:34 < jokeefe> no worries 21:34 < jokeefe> got some reading to do for Civi 21:34 < noe> me too, doesn't look complicated, but will be a task 21:35 < jokeefe> I’ll put up another blog post reminder that we want people and send out an email 21:35 < jokeefe> focused on that & other Mar. events 21:35 < jokeefe> Any update on the SCATV Pirate Show? 21:36 < noe> met with producers today 21:36 < noe> i think we're running with "The Right to Protest" 21:36 < noe> I will try to get caught up on the email chain as well as call Lucia 21:37 < noe> I need to figure out how many people actually wanted to be on the show 21:37 < noe> I think Alex and someone else from Digital 4th? 21:38 < jokeefe> do you remember Bluelustreak? 21:39 < Bluelustreak> Sam Tracy 21:39 < Bluelustreak> Look Frank was a lock but once I dropped out I don't know 21:39 < Bluelustreak> Tried to talk to Carl Williams. 21:39 < Bluelustreak> Disaster 21:39 < noe> Thank you for trying! 21:39 < noe> I'll poke Alex, Sam, Frank and Carl 21:40 < Bluelustreak> Carl expressed no interest 21:40 < jokeefe> Dang. Thanks for trying, Bluelustreak. 21:40 < Bluelustreak> Was belligerent in fact 21:41 < Bluelustreak> Whatever 21:41 < srevilak> For "THe Right to Protest", Kade might be good person to contact 21:41 < srevilak> (Kade, from ACLU. @onekade) 21:41 < jokeefe> true 21:41 < noe> Thank you! 21:41 < noe> If anyone wants to forwrad me emails and contact info, feel free! 21:41 < noe> The more the merrier, its better to have tons of peopoele to pick from 21:42 < noe> [ep[e[;e 21:42 < noe> people 21:42 < noe> (sorry, my keyboard is acting up) 21:43 < srevilak> noe: sent you contact info 21:43 < noe> thank you! 21:44 < Bluelustreak> Point: 21:44 < jokeefe> yes 21:44 < Bluelustreak> We have no people of African descent represented 21:44 < Bluelustreak> Not for a lock of trying on my part 21:45 < jokeefe> thank you for pointing that out. 21:45 < noe> I can ask around SCATV 21:45 < noe> I think Henry Parker might be up for doing it 21:45 < jokeefe> thank you, noe 21:46 < noe> he organized the public panel on police in our community 21:46 < Bluelustreak> Would like someone from BLM 21:46 < noe> me too 21:46 < noe> I volunteered as a camera operator tonight 21:46 < Bluelustreak> but according to Carl the 93 blockade was not a BLM action 21:46 < Bluelustreak> #seriously 21:46 < noe> at a panel that people wanted to title Our Lives Matter 21:47 < noe> The organizers experienced some flack from BM 21:47 < noe> BLM, sorry 21:47 < srevilak> noe: sounds interesting 21:47 < srevilak> you're turning into a regular tv techie :) 21:47 < Bluelustreak> #whycantwealljustgetalong 21:47 < noe> I am more pleased to have someone to represent the generl Black community in Somerville 21:48 < jokeefe> I am sure it will go well 21:48 < Bluelustreak> I asked Carl's group how a white folks could help with their actions since 21:48 < Bluelustreak> they didn't want them showing up 21:48 < Bluelustreak> I was told to send money 21:48 < noe> hmm 21:48 < noe> I don't like that. 21:48 < Bluelustreak> them=us 21:49 < Bluelustreak> He was horrible to me. And hung up 21:49 < noe> I'm sorry you experienced that 21:49 < Bluelustreak> I wrote to him and *apologized* 21:49 < Bluelustreak> just to make nice 21:50 < Bluelustreak> I understand his annoyance with a person he sees as a member of the oppressors 21:50 < jokeefe> thank you for making the effort. 21:50 < Bluelustreak> But I want to see change ALMOST as much as he does 21:50 < Bluelustreak> Whatever 21:51 < noe> I'm with you on that, Lucia 21:51 < Bluelustreak> Same shit different month 21:51 < noe> I don't want to be dismissive of BLM, but a panel member bput it best tonight 21:51 < noe> "When we start aggrandizing ourselves, and creating our own institutions, sometimes we end up exactly as we were, with nothing changed" 21:52 < noe> "We should focus on accomplishing things with a large enough groundswell" 21:52 < noe> Focus less on building a movement and a brand, and more on getting stuff done 21:52 < jokeefe> all for one and one for all 21:53 < srevilak> Since we're getting close to time, would live to move on to Worcester Cryptoparty 21:53 < noe> secon! 21:53 < srevilak> if that's okay with everyone else 21:53 < noe> of course, please do 21:53 < srevilak> Talked to president of worcester linux users group 21:53 < jokeefe> Moving on to Cryptoparty, Worcester 21:53 < srevilak> He seemed excited about cryptoparty, and offered to help promote it 21:54 < jokeefe> great! 21:54 < noe> hooray! 21:54 < jokeefe> thank you 21:54 < srevilak> Asked me to send him info on the event, so he could announce 21:54 < srevilak> thus, need topics 21:54 < srevilak> With 4 hours, thinking 3 presentations? 21:55 < jokeefe> Mark A suggested talking about how to protect yourself on your phone 21:55 < jokeefe> Been reluctant to talk up Signal/Redphone, but apparently it is open source now 21:55 < srevilak> that would be good. Let me ask someone 21:56 < Bluelustreak> Meant to check my phone btw 21:56 < srevilak> (a friend who knows a bit about phone security) 21:56 < Bluelustreak> Android/masspirates.org 21:56 < Bluelustreak> Trying to get ready for a con tomorrow oops 21:56 < srevilak> so, tentatively phone encryption, GnuPG, and Tor 21:56 < srevilak> with option for key signing 21:56 < srevilak> ? 21:56 < noe> sounds good to me 21:57 < noe> hopefully, i can come with a camera 21:57 < noe> (April's show!) 21:57 < srevilak> noe: that would be great 21:57 < jokeefe> Jitsi? 21:57 < noe> (as long as there are no more blizzards 21:57 < jokeefe> Seem to be a lot of GnuPG/Tor, though that is important. 21:58 < srevilak> Okay: phones, GnuPG, jitsi + key signing 21:58 < jokeefe> Sounds good. 21:58 < srevilak> Fellow from Worcester linux group seemed interested in GnuPG 21:58 < srevilak> will work on it 21:58 < jokeefe> Source is only available for RedPhone/Textsecure 21:59 < srevilak> will Try to line up speakers this weekend, and get announcement copy ready 21:59 < jokeefe> thank you. 21:59 < jokeefe> lot this weekend. 21:59 < jokeefe> we are at time. 21:59 < jokeefe> motion to adjourn? 21:59 < noe> so moved 22:00 < jokeefe> 2nd? 22:00 < srevilak> aye 22:00 < jokeefe> all in favor? 22:00 < noe> aye 22:00 < jokeefe> aye 22:00 < srevilak> can post notes 22:00 < jokeefe> thank you 22:01 < Bluelustreak> aye 22:01 < jokeefe> motion passes, thank you all. have a wonderful night!