November 13th, 2014 IRC Meeting
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- Event Review
- Pirate Social
- Possible Town Meeting Warrants to propose. (for illustration Arlington 2014 warrant)
- PirateCon 2015 planning
- Next Cryptoparty?
- jokeefe (James O'Keefe, Somerville)
- Dec. 6, Radical Reference Collective: Privacy Workshop for Library Professionals, 2-5pm, Simmons College
- May 6, 2015, International Day against DRM.
Every Thu., Digital Fourth meeting, 11:20am-1:30pm, Voltage Cafe, Third Street, Cambridge
20:55 < Bluestreak> ahoy! 20:59 < srevilak> hi all 21:00 < jokeefe> ahoy, srevilak! 21:00 < jokeefe> agenda - https://masspirates.org/wiki/November_13th,_2014_IRC_Meeting 21:00 < jokeefe> ids - James O'Keefe, Somerville 21:01 < Bluestreak> Lucia Fiero 21:02 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA 21:03 < jokeefe> any items folks want to add to the agenda? 21:03 < Bluestreak> I am having a bad week. 21:03 < Bluestreak> Very little enthusiasm 21:05 < jokeefe> Yeah. Hope it gets better. 21:06 < srevilak> jokeefe: agenda item: proposing legislation 21:06 < Bluestreak> Thanks. 21:06 < jokeefe> good, srevilak 21:07 < jokeefe> added 21:07 < jokeefe> anyone want to summarize the social? 21:08 < Bluestreak> Who else considered Jordan a troll? 21:09 < jokeefe> everyone is welcome so as long as they are not abusive or disruptive. 21:10 < Bluestreak> He was both. 21:10 < jokeefe> The social was fun. Decent turn out, with lots of good people in attendence. Should have one for the holidays possibly. 21:10 < Bluestreak> in my experience. 21:10 < Bluestreak> Lovely of course. 21:10 < srevilak> Bluestreak: at times, he went slightly beyond friendly challenges. That said, I don't mind being challenged. I'm happy to defend our viewpoints 21:10 < Bluestreak> So nice to see Joan 21:10 < Bluestreak> I defended every point utterly 21:11 < jokeefe> Good practice, then ;-) 21:11 < srevilak> jokeefe: agreed 21:11 < Bluestreak> he ran out of challenges but persisted, I called him on it 21:11 < Bluestreak> didn't lose my cool 21:11 < Bluestreak> so yeah good practice 21:11 < Bluestreak> Rio was so ... 21:12 < Bluestreak> interested isn't a strong enough word... 21:12 < jokeefe> curious and friendly 21:12 < Bluestreak> in what we had accomplished and how 21:12 < Bluestreak> i liked her. 21:12 < Bluestreak> wished she lived here 21:14 < jokeefe> moving on to Possible Town Meeting Warrants to propose 21:14 < jokeefe> the more pirates the better, Bluestreak, she would be good 21:15 < srevilak> I have one idea: would like to propose that all town websites use https exclusively 21:15 < srevilak> warrant article ^^^ 21:16 < srevilak> I'd like to start small. 21:16 < srevilak> I like https requirement for two reasons: 21:16 < jokeefe> true, might help if you offered to help them with it. 21:16 < srevilak> (1) brings up issues regarding privacy 21:17 < srevilak> (2) prevents telcos from conducting MITM attacks 21:17 < Bluestreak> jokes sent you email 21:17 < Bluestreak> jokeefe fucking autocorrect 21:18 < Bluestreak> sent you an email jokeefe 21:18 < srevilak> any other suggestions on legislation 21:18 < jokeefe> thanks, Bluestreak 21:18 < srevilak> also - what's procedure for other towns (e.g., somerville) 21:18 < srevilak> or medway, for that matter? 21:19 < jokeefe> Somerville is a city so it needs to go before the board of Alderman. Arlington has elected town meeting, so procedure is more open 21:19 < jokeefe> srevilak, thinking there are others out there. Not sure if the could endorse Pass. Mass. Amendment. 21:20 < jokeefe> wonder if there is a surveillance warrant 21:20 < srevilak> last year, or maybe two years ago, Occupy Arlington introduced a "corporations are not people" warrant 21:20 < jokeefe> police won't comply with surveillance by NSA or use proceeds of such surveillance 21:22 < srevilak> jokeefe: I like the idea. Only reservation: I don't have much factual background on local PD 21:22 < srevilak> Guess it's time to start making public records requests, and researching town budget 21:22 < srevilak> I'm not involved in local politics as much as I should be :( 21:23 < jokeefe> when do you have to submit them? 21:23 < jokeefe> and do you know your local town meeting member? 21:24 < jokeefe> BTW: here are the Artlington town committee/commission/board openings http://www.arlingtonma.gov/town-governance/all-boards-and-committees/committee-openings 21:25 < jokeefe> and when are the elections? 21:26 < srevilak> Elections are usually in spring 21:26 < srevilak> Town meeting is in april 21:26 < srevilak> Warrant articles close on Jan 30th 21:26 < jokeefe> good, time to get things ready. 21:27 < jokeefe> Suggest you make it a blog post and ask for others to offer their suggestions. Way to get people in and get some draft Warrants written. 21:28 < srevilak> jokeefe: will give that some thought 21:28 < jokeefe> Making FOIA easier in Arlington would also be good. Find out what isn't public record, so make it, or what isn't shared, but could be 21:28 < srevilak> Agreed. 21:28 < srevilak> I've only filed one public records request w/town, and that was a few years ago 21:29 < srevilak> hmmm..there's a bicycle committee :) 21:30 < jokeefe> apply 21:30 < jokeefe> also, we need to review this: http://files.ocpf.us/pdf/guides/muni_candidate_2012.pdf 21:31 < jokeefe> This caught my eye: This brochure is designed to address issues concerning candidates for elected municipal office (not for members of a representative town meeting, who are exempted from the reporting and disclosure provisions of the campaign finance law) 21:31 < jokeefe> . 21:31 < srevilak> speaking of OCPF, next Thu I will be going to an info session @ OCPF 21:32 < srevilak> Re: our transition to depository status 21:32 < jokeefe> thanks. Wondering if you could run as elected town meeting member and still be our treasurer. I would help with your campaign. 21:32 < srevilak> I should write OCPF and ask 21:32 < jokeefe> The Greens didn't use their software and were able to get around it, though I guess we could run it in a VM 21:33 < srevilak> I should write OCPF and ask (about town meeting) 21:33 < srevilak> Arlington town meeting only requires 10 signatures to get on the ballot 21:34 < srevilak> jokeefe: the pirate treasurer does not do windows 21:35 < jokeefe> I think if you can upload in their format, it is ok 21:35 < jokeefe> For the record: http://arlingtonma.gov/town-governance/town-meeting 21:35 < jokeefe> Annual Town Election to be held March 28, 2015 21:35 < jokeefe> First night of Town Meeting will be April 27, 2015 21:36 < Bluestreak> Is ... Steve running? 21:36 < jokeefe> 252 for 21 precincts. 12 per precinct, 1/3 up every year. so 4 to be elected this year in a block voting system. 21:37 < jokeefe> Considering. More research to be done. 21:37 < Bluestreak> Am...I running? 21:37 < jokeefe> Do you have elected town meeting? 21:37 < Bluestreak> please reply to email 21:37 < jokeefe> I think only 31 towns do 21:37 < Bluestreak> we have selectmen 21:37 < Bluestreak> and town meeting 21:38 < Bluestreak> http://www.townofmedway.org/Pages/MedwayMA_Bcomm/BOS/index 21:38 < jokeefe> We need to figure out if you can be an officer in the party and run for local office. Know there are limitations on treasurer, IIRC. 21:39 < Bluestreak> Shit, Jason could do (EPFRAC) He was on conservation commission in CT 21:39 < Bluestreak> Jason. 21:39 < Bluestreak> Jason should run 21:39 < Bluestreak> Ppl fucking love him 21:39 < jokeefe> Town charter is not text - scanned image. Ugh - http://www.townofmedway.org/Pages/MedwayMA_Bcomm/BOS/towncharter.pdf 21:39 < Bluestreak> Every teacher our kids have had would vote for him 21:39 < jokeefe> he should run! 21:40 < Bluestreak> </3 21:40 < srevilak> http://files.ocpf.us/pdf/legaldocs/AO-95-03.pdf 21:40 < Bluestreak> Email 21:41 < srevilak> Town meeting member is not an "elective public office" within the meaning of MGL 55 21:41 < srevilak> Woo hoo! 21:41 < Bluestreak> So...? 21:41 < srevilak> Bluestreak: in other words, I can run for town meeting, even though I'm a PAC treasurer 21:42 < jokeefe> There is more there, but it is encouraging 21:43 < jokeefe> Well lets get the voter history and voters of your precinct and start planning! 21:43 < jokeefe> Going to move things along 21:43 < jokeefe> PirateCon 2015 planning 21:44 < srevilak> will make next round of survey changes tomorrow evening 21:44 < jokeefe> Any further comments on the survey? 21:44 < Bluestreak> No woed from Cory :-( 21:44 < Bluestreak> word 21:44 < srevilak> Bluestreak: who's Cory? 21:44 < Bluestreak> Can't decide on a date until i hear from him 21:44 < Bluestreak> Doctorow 21:44 < Bluestreak> dude said if we scheduled when he is in town then he would appear for no speaking fee 21:45 < Bluestreak> blah bla bah 21:45 < jokeefe> Right, but we can ask supporters what dates work for them. 21:45 < Bluestreak> all talk 21:45 < Bluestreak> so hung up on his promise... 21:45 < jokeefe> Pretty major to come from the UK. Airfares aren't cheap. 21:45 < Bluestreak> I want names to draw ppl out 21:45 < Bluestreak> yes but he is herea ll the time 21:46 < Bluestreak> lessig live here 21:46 < Bluestreak> he should speak 21:46 < Bluestreak> these guys are all talk 21:46 < Bluestreak> take money out of politics 21:46 < Bluestreak> fuck that they all want to get paid 21:46 < srevilak> I'd like to invite Brother Charles and Lolita Kelsey 21:46 < Bluestreak> #fedup 21:46 < Bluestreak> #annoyed 21:46 < Bluestreak> ... 21:46 < jokeefe> lessig, certainly in the area. Doctorow hasn't been here that often. 21:46 < Bluestreak> Good idea 21:47 < jokeefe> would be good to invite Brother Charles and Lolita 21:47 < Bluestreak> Was here to sell us his book tho want he 21:47 < jokeefe> any comments on the survey? 21:47 < srevilak> Also, for all of the mass surveilance that goes on, would like to get people of color to talk about their experiences, pre and post snowden 21:47 < Bluestreak> Better idea to invite our local friends 21:48 < Bluestreak> we have enough rich white dudes already! 21:48 < jokeefe> aye on both points 21:49 < jokeefe> so no comments? srevilak, were the ones I sent useful? 21:50 < srevilak> srevilak: yes, piratecon survey form comments have been very helpful 21:50 < Bluestreak> I need to think longer about my answers... sorry... 21:50 < srevilak> should we decide on a window for accepting comments? 21:51 < srevilak> (ie, start when, end when) 21:51 < jokeefe> good to hear. Would like to get a post up about it by Monday. Sound reasonable? 21:51 < srevilak> jokeefe: I think so. 21:51 < srevilak> Will send a shout-out when the next batch of edits are in 21:51 < jokeefe> Two weeks window? 21:51 < jokeefe> thanks, srevilak 21:53 < jokeefe> Bluestreak, is two weeks enough time for people to submit survey results? 21:53 < srevilak> jokeefe: I think two weeks is reasonable 21:54 < Bluestreak> I.... 21:54 < Bluestreak> I don't know! 21:55 < jokeefe> no worries I don't know either ;-) 21:56 < jokeefe> Next Cryptoparty? 21:57 < jokeefe> or is there too much to do the rest of the year. ok to put off deciding 21:59 < Bluestreak> Sorry not my best night. 21:59 < jokeefe> no worries. 21:59 < jokeefe> motion to adjourn? 22:00 < srevilak> second motion to adjourn 22:00 < jokeefe> all in favor? 22:01 < jokeefe> aye 22:01 < srevilak> aye 22:01 < jokeefe> srevilak, wlll you post the notes? 22:01 < srevilak> jokeefe: will do 22:01 < jokeefe> motion passes 22:01 < jokeefe> thank you