October 25th, 2012 IRC Meeting

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This meeting focused on using our Liquid Feedback server to decide the three questions on the November 6th ballot.

Quick Notes / Summaries Re Proposed Bills to be Discussed:

1. CryptoParty in Boston

2. Ballot Questions, Platform, LQFB


  • jokeefe - James O'Keefe, Somerville
  • srevilak - Steve Revilak
  • SplendidSpoon - Lauren Pespisa, Boxboro/Cambridge
  • mildbeard - Erik Zoltan, Framingham


  • passstab
  • [bsod]
  • cmal
  • teamcoltra


2. Ballot Questions, Platform, LQFB

  • Things aren't proceeding correctly.
  • Erik is looking at it

Meeting Minutes


[12:21] <@jokeefe> have you received the liquid feedback email? [12:21] <+srevilak> yes, I received an invite a while back. Logged in a few times, but haven't contributed yet [12:24] <@jokeefe> anything there you want to support? [12:25] <+srevilak> you mean ? [12:27] <@jokeefe> yes, esp. 6, 7, 8 [12:28] <+srevilak> Q8 is right to repair. I support [12:28] <+srevilak> Q7: medical use of marijuana. Support [12:29] <+srevilak> Q6: End of Life Medication. I have to research some more. I support the idea, but I've heard there are some issues with the way it's worded. [12:29] <+srevilak> Haven't read the full text of the question yet [12:29] == SplendidSpoon [~SplendidS@38.111.ly.vgu] has joined #masspirates [12:29] == mode/#masspirates [+o SplendidSpoon] by [4Q] [12:29] == mode/#masspirates [+v SplendidSpoon] by [4Q] [12:30] == mode/#masspirates [+l 15] by [4Q] [12:31] <@jokeefe> hi SplendidSpoon [12:31] <@SplendidSpoon> hey sorry got distracted by work [12:31] <@jokeefe> understandable [12:32] <@jokeefe> just talking about Windoz8, ballot questions on liquid feedback [12:32] <@SplendidSpoon> ok [12:36] <@jokeefe> erix is having IRC issues [12:39] <@jokeefe> srevilak, what tasks on the todo list interest you? [12:41] <+srevilak> tech things I could easily help with [12:41] == mildbeard [webchat@hknv-28-026-620-99.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #masspirates [12:41] == mode/#masspirates [+o mildbeard] by [4Q] [12:41] == mode/#masspirates [+v mildbeard] by [4Q] [12:41] <+srevilak> wouldn't mind doing things like surveys or letters [12:41] <@mildbeard> hi [12:41] == mode/#masspirates [+l 16] by [4Q] [12:41] <+srevilak> rounding up interns not my strongest point [12:42] <@mildbeard> sorry to be late, I had a problem related to the i2p network and finally got past it. [12:43] <@jokeefe> hi mildbeard [12:44] <@mildbeard> hey jokeefe! [12:44] <@jokeefe> thanks, srevilak on the suggestions. erik is good on tech things. reassessing how we have things setup would be useful. letter writing/surveys as well. [12:45] <+srevilak> jokeefe: re: to-do list, what are the biggest priorities? [12:46] <@jokeefe> we need to decide that on the 11th. we need a letter to members and we have talked about a survey for awhile. [12:46] <@jokeefe> so I am on Liquid feedback and would like to move the ballot questions along. erik, you feel confident walking us through that process? [12:47] <@mildbeard> let me connect [12:47] <@mildbeard> so it's http://masspirates.org/feedback [12:48] <@mildbeard> And the very important first step is to click the "Login" link at top center. [12:49] <@mildbeard> what section contains ballot question 1? [12:49] <@jokeefe> it is 8 [12:50] <@jokeefe> [12:50] <@jokeefe> 3=7.html [12:50] <@jokeefe> 2=6.html [12:50] <@mildbeard> So it's in Massachusetts Pirate Party, Open Innovation, and it's Default Policy #8. [12:51] <@mildbeard> Anyone not able to get there? [12:51] <@jokeefe> BTW, mildbeard, I made you an initiator on the three questions. I only see you, Sevan and Mark as people I can do that too. [12:51] <@mildbeard> I'll accept the invitation to be an initiator. [12:51] <@mildbeard> And I signed up as a supporter too. [12:52] <@mildbeard> Seems like the biggest no-brainer for the pirate party. [12:53] <@mildbeard> is there some downside I might be missing? [12:57] <@jokeefe> I might argue that it doesn't go far enough, but perhaps better something we want than nothing of what we want [12:57] <@mildbeard> quite frankly, I can't see how to do anything with the issue after I've supported it! [12:58] <@jokeefe> strange, mildbeard, I don't see you listed as a supporter [12:58] <@mildbeard> do you see me listed as an initiator? [12:58] <@mildbeard> erixoltan [12:59] <@jokeefe> yes [12:59] <@jokeefe> do you see me as a supporter for ? [12:59] <@mildbeard> maybe it doesn't also count you as a supporter if you're an initiator? [13:01] <@jokeefe> maybe. I should not be an initiator for , but I am a supporter, do you see me listed as a supporter? [13:01] <@mildbeard> no I don't see you on issue 1. [13:01] <+srevilak> I like the fact that question also mandates giving vehicle owners access to diagnostic information. By 2015, all cars have to come with them, and I'd want to see what my black box was saying about me [13:02] <+srevilak> all cars have to come with them => all cars will have to come with data recorders [13:02] <@mildbeard> I am guessing we don't have a quorum on the issue, and that's why it's not letting us move it forward. [13:04] <+srevilak> I'll have to support from home; haven't memorized my LQFB credentials [13:06] <@jokeefe> any idea where we set the quorum? [13:06] <@mildbeard> It's in Admin (at the bottom) and you can edit the default policy. [13:06] <@mildbeard> I tried setting it to 1% and it's still not moving it forward. [13:07] <@mildbeard> I think we need to study liquid feedback and come back to this next week? [13:08] <@mildbeard> wait, is that too late? [13:08] <@jokeefe> no, 12 days until the election [13:08] <@jokeefe> would be good to get this working this weekend. [13:09] <@mildbeard> yeah [13:09] <@jokeefe> got some time to sit down over irc and poke at it? [13:09] <@mildbeard> we should really start doing this. [13:09] <@mildbeard> sure [13:09] <@jokeefe> I find it troubling that who supports it isn't listed [13:10] <@jokeefe> pretty open on sunday [13:12] <@mildbeard> not me, but I'm working on it now. [13:12] == teamcoltra [~travis_mc@12.4.qzu.jzg] has joined #masspirates [13:12] == mode/#masspirates [+v teamcoltra] by [4Q] [13:13] == mode/#masspirates [+l 17] by [4Q] [13:15] <@jokeefe> hi teamcoltra [13:17] == teamcoltra [~travis_mc@12.4.qzu.jzg] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] [13:18] <@mildbeard> lol [13:19] <@mildbeard> I'm on a great tutorial on Liquid Feedback, it may help. [13:19] <@mildbeard> Only problem - it's in Italian. [13:19] <@jokeefe> no google translate for video yet, unfortunately [13:21] == teamcoltra [~travis_mc@12.4.qzu.jzg] has joined #masspirates [13:21] == mode/#masspirates [+v teamcoltra] by [4Q] [13:21] == mode/#masspirates [+l 17] by [4Q] [13:22] <@mildbeard> I'm creating a new voting policy - 1 day to admit, 1 day to discuss, 1 day to verify and 3 days to vote. Just as a test. Part of the tutorial. [13:26] <@jokeefe> creat [13:26] <@jokeefe> great [13:26] <@jokeefe> thank you [13:29] <@mildbeard> mnaking progress - have to go to work meeting but will keep working on it. [13:31] <@jokeefe> thanks