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== Events == | == Events == | ||
# Sep. 13-14 noon-8pm Freedom Rally, Boston Common [https://piratenpad.de/p/mapp-fr-2014 Logistics] | # Sep. 13-14 noon-8pm [http://masscann.org/rally Freedom Rally], Boston Common [https://piratenpad.de/p/mapp-fr-2014 Logistics] [https://www.facebook.com/events/326565890852353/ facebook event] | ||
# Sep. 17, 6:30-9pm, [http://blu.org/keysignings/ Key Signing Party], MIT Building E-51, Room 325, Wadsworth Street, Cambridge | # Sep. 17, 6:30-9pm, [http://blu.org/keysignings/ Key Signing Party], MIT Building E-51, Room 325, Wadsworth Street, Cambridge | ||
# Sep 19, 5p-9p. [https://www.eventbrite.com/e/citizens-rising-a-republic-held-hostage-and-the-plan-to-take-it-back-tickets-12201718669 Citizens Rising]: A Republic Held Hostage And The Plan To Take It Back | |||
# Sep. 20, 9a-5p. [http://www.meetup.com/desktop-linux-users-group/events/197210582/ Software Freedom Day]. Industry Lab 288 Norfolk Street, Cambridge, MA. We're doing a cryptoparty from 10:30 - noon. | # Sep. 20, 9a-5p. [http://www.meetup.com/desktop-linux-users-group/events/197210582/ Software Freedom Day]. Industry Lab 288 Norfolk Street, Cambridge, MA. We're doing a cryptoparty from 10:30 - noon. | ||
# Sep. 26th. DMC in-person meeting. 4pm? | # Sep. 26th. DMC in-person meeting. 4pm? | ||
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Motion to support 15 Now New England. http://15now.org/get-involved/in-your-area/new-england/. Motion Passes. | Motion to support 15 Now New England. http://15now.org/get-involved/in-your-area/new-england/. Motion Passes. | ||
Steve and Jamie to work on flyer to hand out at Freedom rally. Why we're here; how the core MPP values pertain to the event; end the war on drugs. Perhaps both a candidate flyer and an issues flyer. | |||
PirateCon 2015. No date set yet. Would prefer to avoid date conflicts with DMC. Would also prefer to avoid conflicts with [http://www.studentcity.com/when-is-my-spring-break spring breaks] and college graduations. Harvard Spring Break is March 16th, MIT break is Mar 23rd. Easter is April 5th. Perhaps best to put together a survey of dates. | |||
== Minutes == | == Minutes == | ||
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20:42 < jokeefe> ahoy | |||
20:42 < davidd> hi | |||
20:56 < jokeefe> ahoy noe | |||
20:57 < noe> ahoy! | |||
20:59 < srevilak> hi all | |||
20:59 < srevilak> watched the interview earlier this evening. Nice job | |||
20:59 < jokeefe> thanks | |||
21:00 < noe> hooray! | |||
21:01 < noe> jokeefe: i am ill and can't pass Lolita the DVD tomorrow :( | |||
21:01 < srevilak> noe: hope you feel better | |||
21:01 < noe> chicken soup and gatorade and sleeeep | |||
21:02 < noe> and also Pirate IRC! | |||
21:02 < jokeefe> agenda at | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/August_21st,_2014_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:02 < jokeefe> ids, James O'Keefe, Somerville | |||
21:02 < noe> jokeefe: Lolita might contact you to get the DVD | |||
21:02 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA | |||
21:02 < noe> Noelani Kamelamela, Somerville | |||
21:02 < jokeefe> I can mail it to her. | |||
21:03 < jokeefe> hope you feel better soon, Noe | |||
21:04 < jokeefe> Reviews | |||
21:04 < noe> (gatorade! i think its all the new kids on campus) | |||
21:04 < jokeefe> Justice for Michael Brown Rally | |||
21:04 < jokeefe> went well. | |||
21:05 < jokeefe> srevilak, did you post a report? | |||
21:05 < srevilak> jokeefe: no, sorry | |||
21:05 < noe> We passed out materials! And met lots of neat people, | |||
Lucia gave out buttons, those were a hit. | |||
21:05 * srevilak adds rally to 2014 event notes | |||
21:06 < noe> I've been contacted by SCATV to host an anti-police brutality | |||
panel, I have said yes, of course. | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> yes! | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> cool, clearly you need you own show. | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> ;-) | |||
21:06 < noe> I hope to get a member of the SPD as well as two people | |||
from the community | |||
21:07 < jokeefe> TOUCHFM/BNN appearances went well. video at | |||
http://youtu.be/JpfDitZmIw0 will post it to site | |||
21:08 < jokeefe> helped them by posting it to our youtube account. | |||
most of the time was simply, reading/exporting/uploading the video | |||
21:09 < srevilak> noe: that's great | |||
21:09 < noe> did anything else happen this week? | |||
21:09 < srevilak> Lucia's interview on touchfm went well? (I haven't | |||
heard anything) | |||
21:10 < noe> Charles, her interviewer, was very pleased with her | |||
interview. He would love to have I, James, Lucia or any other Pirate | |||
on next month, I think. | |||
21:10 < noe> I don't know if we have access to the audio for Lucia's | |||
interview. | |||
21:11 < jokeefe> Lucia is asking, I believe | |||
21:12 < srevilak> Added some notes at | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/2014_Event_Notes | |||
21:12 < noe> The catch with another Touch interview next month is that | |||
the interview would be early morning. D: | |||
21:12 < jokeefe> thanks. srevilak | |||
21:13 < noe> I think Lucia should be commended for doing it so early. O_o | |||
21:13 < jokeefe> aye! | |||
21:13 < srevilak> I'm hoping I can participate in the next one | |||
21:13 < jokeefe> that would be great! | |||
21:14 < jokeefe> lets talk | |||
21:14 < jokeefe> Update on candidate status, campaign strategies | |||
21:14 < jokeefe> Noe has campaign meeting on Sunday, 7pm. | |||
21:15 < noe> Yup! We'll talk about fundraising and things to do maybe | |||
during the primary which is September 9 | |||
21:15 < noe> Also, I've been helping out with 15 Now New England: | |||
http://15now.org/get-involved/in-your-area/new-england/ | |||
21:15 < srevilak> where's the meeting? | |||
21:16 < noe> Campaign HQ! Also known as my place. | |||
21:16 < noe> So, the folks at 15 Now New England know that I support them, | |||
but would like to know if the MA Pirate Party supports them (emotionally, | |||
not monetarily) | |||
21:16 < srevilak> If you don't mind, I'd love to join you guys | |||
21:16 < jokeefe> please do | |||
21:16 < noe> srevilak: please do! | |||
21:17 < srevilak> noe: I think 15 minimum wage is a good movement. | |||
21:17 < jokeefe> ahoy Kendra | |||
21:17 < noe> ahoy! | |||
21:17 < srevilak> I very much support | |||
21:17 < jokeefe> aye! | |||
21:17 < Kendra> Hi Everybody | |||
21:17 < jokeefe> agenda - | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/August_21st,_2014_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:17 < srevilak> Hi Kendra! | |||
21:18 < noe> with those endorsements, I think I can say that we support | |||
15 Now New England. I will post on the votenoelani blog accordingly, | |||
probably this weekend. | |||
21:18 < srevilak> should we do motion to support 15 now, and vote? | |||
21:18 < Kendra> 2nd | |||
21:19 < srevilak> aye to support | |||
21:19 < noe> aye! | |||
21:19 < Kendra> aye | |||
21:20 < jokeefe> aye - motion passes | |||
21:20 < srevilak> It's cool that the 15 now NE photo is in E5's meeting | |||
room | |||
21:21 < jokeefe> Freedom Rally - Post will be up tonight | |||
21:22 < srevilak> Re: blog posts, I'm hoping to get another NSA post up | |||
this weekend | |||
21:22 < jokeefe> great | |||
21:25 < jokeefe> need a custom flier. Will look at davidd's NL fliers. | |||
Asked if he had the source files | |||
21:25 < srevilak> jokeefe: flyer for freedom rally? | |||
21:25 < jokeefe> yes | |||
21:25 < jokeefe> we never have one, and should. | |||
21:26 < srevilak> I can take a pass at flyer copy | |||
21:26 < noe> should it be a general join us flyer? | |||
21:26 < noe> we do have events to promote, but there are a lot of events. | |||
21:27 < srevilak> I assumed that jokeefe meant a flyer to hand out at | |||
freedom rally | |||
21:27 < jokeefe> yes | |||
21:27 < srevilak> Why we're here, and why you should support us. | |||
Become a pirate | |||
21:28 * srevilak tries to picture a graphic that combines marijuana | |||
leaves and a pirate ship | |||
21:28 < Kendra> Might want to include the core MPP values and how they | |||
pertain to the event | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> and we support legalization | |||
21:29 < srevilak> Kendra: agreed | |||
21:29 < Kendra> Skull in the middle of the leaf | |||
21:29 < jokeefe> davidd's flier has a nice design | |||
21:29 < srevilak> :) | |||
21:29 < srevilak> I'd also like to mention ending the war on drugs. | |||
I think that's a very important issue | |||
21:29 < jokeefe> aye! | |||
21:29 < Kendra> Police out of control | |||
21:29 < noe> agreed! | |||
21:30 < jokeefe> oh yes | |||
21:32 < Kendra> Might have a candidate flyer and an issues flyer | |||
21:32 < jokeefe> agreed | |||
21:32 < jokeefe> need a whole bunch of fliers | |||
21:33 < Kendra> When is the election? | |||
21:33 < noe> three fliers! join us, issues, candidates | |||
21:33 < noe> General election is November 4, 2014 | |||
21:34 < Kendra> That | |||
21:34 < Kendra> 's abotu t3n weeks? | |||
21:34 < Kendra> A lot to do, but some good events | |||
21:35 < jokeefe> yes | |||
21:36 < jokeefe> next up - PirateCon 2015 | |||
21:37 < Kendra> Is there a set date? | |||
21:37 < jokeefe> no | |||
21:37 < jokeefe> DMC is in the spring. | |||
21:37 < jokeefe> would like to avoid it. | |||
21:37 < noe> Should we assume June? Or maybe August? | |||
21:38 < Kendra> I think either early spring or early summer. Remember | |||
finals and graduation. | |||
21:38 < srevilak> Spring break? | |||
21:38 < jokeefe> I was thinking March | |||
21:39 < srevilak> March seems okay | |||
21:40 < noe> Second week of March? (I think thats MIT and Harvard) | |||
21:40 < Kendra> Is there a DMC date set yet? | |||
21:40 < jokeefe> no | |||
21:40 < jokeefe> trying to find college schedules | |||
21:41 < srevilak> March is libreplanet. May want to avoid conflicting | |||
with that | |||
21:41 < Kendra> Not to mention Easter and spring break. | |||
21:41 < jokeefe> yes | |||
21:42 < jokeefe> http://www.studentcity.com/when-is-my-spring-break | |||
21:42 < srevilak> If not march, maybe very beginning of April? | |||
21:43 < noe> for Harvard its the week of Mar. 16 and MIT is the week of | |||
Mar. 23 | |||
21:43 < Kendra> Easter is April 5th | |||
21:43 < Kendra> The weekend of 4/11 might work | |||
21:44 < jokeefe> end of march seems to be spring break free though mit | |||
is 22 march | |||
21:44 < Kendra> Or the march 27-29 weekend | |||
21:44 < srevilak> Or late Feb? | |||
21:44 < noe> jokeefe: according to that website, the most common is | |||
the week of Mar. 16 | |||
21:45 < noe> (derp, 15) | |||
21:45 < jokeefe> yes | |||
21:46 < Kendra> maybe we should put the possible dates on the list and | |||
get a feel for what works for the majority of people | |||
21:46 < jokeefe> Can do that. | |||
21:46 < jokeefe> mayfirst has a survey system, IIRC | |||
21:47 < jokeefe> limesurvey | |||
21:47 < srevilak> jokeefe: I can look into limesurvey. | |||
21:47 < srevilak> I know it's kicking around; haven't used it yet | |||
21:49 < jokeefe> found this https://support.mayfirst.org/ticket/3222 | |||
21:49 < Kendra> Have we discussed a theme for this years pirate Con? | |||
21:49 < jokeefe> their link to help may not work | |||
21:49 < Kendra> next year | |||
21:49 < jokeefe> no, Kendra, we haven't | |||
21:49 < jokeefe> suggestions? | |||
21:50 < Kendra> We told you so. | |||
21:50 < Kendra> who's paranoid now? | |||
21:51 < Kendra> I'm kidding, but not really | |||
21:52 < Kendra> Maybe Government Transparency post-Snowden | |||
21:53 < noe> That sounds sexier than Accountability | |||
21:53 < Kendra> Police militarization after Ferguson -- | |||
21:54 < srevilak> Kendra: those are both very good titles | |||
21:55 < Kendra> There has been a lot of talk about certain controversial | |||
political groups moving to free software to avoid surveillance. Would we | |||
consider this a success? What I mean is, in the exampleof ISIS in Syria, | |||
if they move to free software to continue what they are doing, is that | |||
a good or bad thing? | |||
21:56 < Kendra> Furthermore, what are the perimeters for teaching | |||
free software to underrepresented communities under the Patriot Act? | |||
can teaching encryption be deemed a violtaion of the Patriot Act or | |||
providing material support to X, Y, And Z? | |||
21:57 < jokeefe> I am not worried about whether IS uses free software. | |||
The US has already given them enough weapons indirectly. | |||
21:57 < srevilak> Re: ISIS, when people give up guns because ISIS uses | |||
guns, then I will give up encryption because ISIS uses encryption | |||
21:57 < Kendra> i have been hearing a bit more about free software falling | |||
into to hands of certain groups and I wonder if that will backfire on | |||
the FOSS movement. | |||
21:58 < jokeefe> yes, teaching encryption to IS would be material support, | |||
but we aren't doing that | |||
21:59 < Kendra> Anyway, expect to hear more about that. the seeds | |||
are planted. I man it is free software, so anyone can access it. | |||
21:59 < noe> Kendra: it is possible. Although, I think they would | |||
stick to using software that is commonly used by their targets, which | |||
typically isn't free. | |||
21:59 < jokeefe> wonder if they use salesforce | |||
21:59 < srevilak> Kendra: translating Arabic has been found to be | |||
Violation of Patriot Act (Tarek Mahana). I'm sure teaching free software | |||
would be too | |||
22:00 < srevilak> But I think this goes to a bigger issue: how rigorously | |||
laws are enforced depends on who you are | |||
22:01 < jokeefe> yes, Tarek Mahana went to jail for what a Mein Kampf | |||
translator did. | |||
22:01 < Kendra> Interesting issues, also, they (ISI) got kicked off of | |||
Twitter and YouTube and Facebook. we need to think like the police about | |||
some of our protected activities. Pkus you never know the intentions | |||
of people taking the classes, but where is the bright line between legal | |||
and illegal? | |||
22:02 < noe> Ouch, we are at time. | |||
22:02 < Kendra> Might make for some good discussion | |||
22:02 < srevilak> Kendra: agreed | |||
22:02 < jokeefe> agreed on both counts | |||
22:02 < noe> I think this is definitely a good discussion and something | |||
we should continue | |||
22:02 < jokeefe> will put a survey together. | |||
22:02 < jokeefe> aye | |||
22:02 < jokeefe> motion to adjourn? | |||
22:02 < noe> motioned | |||
22:02 < Kendra> 2nd | |||
22:03 < jokeefe> all in favor? | |||
22:03 < srevilak> aye | |||
22:03 < Kendra> aye | |||
22:03 < jokeefe> aye | |||
22:03 < noe> aye! | |||
22:03 < Kendra> nite all | |||
22:03 < srevilak> will post notes | |||
22:03 < noe> nite! | |||
22:03 < jokeefe> night | |||
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Latest revision as of 20:14, 27 August 2014
Review
- Justice for Michael Brown Rally
- TOUCHFM/BNN appearances
Tasks
- Update on candidate status, campaign strategies
- Freedom Rally
- Post/Email
- Materials
- PirateCon 2015
Events
- Sep. 13-14 noon-8pm Freedom Rally, Boston Common Logistics facebook event
- Sep. 17, 6:30-9pm, Key Signing Party, MIT Building E-51, Room 325, Wadsworth Street, Cambridge
- Sep 19, 5p-9p. Citizens Rising: A Republic Held Hostage And The Plan To Take It Back
- Sep. 20, 9a-5p. Software Freedom Day. Industry Lab 288 Norfolk Street, Cambridge, MA. We're doing a cryptoparty from 10:30 - noon.
- Sep. 26th. DMC in-person meeting. 4pm?
- Sep. 26-29, Freedom Not Fear wiki
- May 6, 2015, International Day against DRM.
Participants
- jokeefe (James O'Keefe, Somerville)
- srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA)
- noe (Noelani Kamelamela, Somerville)
- Kendra
Observers
- davidd
- Pharyngeal
- zby
Summary
TouchFM, The Real Talk Show interviews went well. Real talk show interview posted at http://youtu.be/JpfDitZmIw0.
Noe has campaign meeting on Sunday, 7pm, at Noe's Campaign Central.
Motion to support 15 Now New England. http://15now.org/get-involved/in-your-area/new-england/. Motion Passes.
Steve and Jamie to work on flyer to hand out at Freedom rally. Why we're here; how the core MPP values pertain to the event; end the war on drugs. Perhaps both a candidate flyer and an issues flyer.
PirateCon 2015. No date set yet. Would prefer to avoid date conflicts with DMC. Would also prefer to avoid conflicts with spring breaks and college graduations. Harvard Spring Break is March 16th, MIT break is Mar 23rd. Easter is April 5th. Perhaps best to put together a survey of dates.
Minutes
20:42 < jokeefe> ahoy 20:42 < davidd> hi 20:56 < jokeefe> ahoy noe 20:57 < noe> ahoy! 20:59 < srevilak> hi all 20:59 < srevilak> watched the interview earlier this evening. Nice job 20:59 < jokeefe> thanks 21:00 < noe> hooray! 21:01 < noe> jokeefe: i am ill and can't pass Lolita the DVD tomorrow :( 21:01 < srevilak> noe: hope you feel better 21:01 < noe> chicken soup and gatorade and sleeeep 21:02 < noe> and also Pirate IRC! 21:02 < jokeefe> agenda at https://masspirates.org/wiki/August_21st,_2014_IRC_Meeting 21:02 < jokeefe> ids, James O'Keefe, Somerville 21:02 < noe> jokeefe: Lolita might contact you to get the DVD 21:02 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA 21:02 < noe> Noelani Kamelamela, Somerville 21:02 < jokeefe> I can mail it to her. 21:03 < jokeefe> hope you feel better soon, Noe 21:04 < jokeefe> Reviews 21:04 < noe> (gatorade! i think its all the new kids on campus) 21:04 < jokeefe> Justice for Michael Brown Rally 21:04 < jokeefe> went well. 21:05 < jokeefe> srevilak, did you post a report? 21:05 < srevilak> jokeefe: no, sorry 21:05 < noe> We passed out materials! And met lots of neat people, Lucia gave out buttons, those were a hit. 21:05 * srevilak adds rally to 2014 event notes 21:06 < noe> I've been contacted by SCATV to host an anti-police brutality panel, I have said yes, of course. 21:06 < jokeefe> yes! 21:06 < jokeefe> cool, clearly you need you own show. 21:06 < jokeefe> ;-) 21:06 < noe> I hope to get a member of the SPD as well as two people from the community 21:07 < jokeefe> TOUCHFM/BNN appearances went well. video at http://youtu.be/JpfDitZmIw0 will post it to site 21:08 < jokeefe> helped them by posting it to our youtube account. most of the time was simply, reading/exporting/uploading the video 21:09 < srevilak> noe: that's great 21:09 < noe> did anything else happen this week? 21:09 < srevilak> Lucia's interview on touchfm went well? (I haven't heard anything) 21:10 < noe> Charles, her interviewer, was very pleased with her interview. He would love to have I, James, Lucia or any other Pirate on next month, I think. 21:10 < noe> I don't know if we have access to the audio for Lucia's interview. 21:11 < jokeefe> Lucia is asking, I believe 21:12 < srevilak> Added some notes at https://masspirates.org/wiki/2014_Event_Notes 21:12 < noe> The catch with another Touch interview next month is that the interview would be early morning. D: 21:12 < jokeefe> thanks. srevilak 21:13 < noe> I think Lucia should be commended for doing it so early. O_o 21:13 < jokeefe> aye! 21:13 < srevilak> I'm hoping I can participate in the next one 21:13 < jokeefe> that would be great! 21:14 < jokeefe> lets talk 21:14 < jokeefe> Update on candidate status, campaign strategies 21:14 < jokeefe> Noe has campaign meeting on Sunday, 7pm. 21:15 < noe> Yup! We'll talk about fundraising and things to do maybe during the primary which is September 9 21:15 < noe> Also, I've been helping out with 15 Now New England: http://15now.org/get-involved/in-your-area/new-england/ 21:15 < srevilak> where's the meeting? 21:16 < noe> Campaign HQ! Also known as my place. 21:16 < noe> So, the folks at 15 Now New England know that I support them, but would like to know if the MA Pirate Party supports them (emotionally, not monetarily) 21:16 < srevilak> If you don't mind, I'd love to join you guys 21:16 < jokeefe> please do 21:16 < noe> srevilak: please do! 21:17 < srevilak> noe: I think 15 minimum wage is a good movement. 21:17 < jokeefe> ahoy Kendra 21:17 < noe> ahoy! 21:17 < srevilak> I very much support 21:17 < jokeefe> aye! 21:17 < Kendra> Hi Everybody 21:17 < jokeefe> agenda - https://masspirates.org/wiki/August_21st,_2014_IRC_Meeting 21:17 < srevilak> Hi Kendra! 21:18 < noe> with those endorsements, I think I can say that we support 15 Now New England. I will post on the votenoelani blog accordingly, probably this weekend. 21:18 < srevilak> should we do motion to support 15 now, and vote? 21:18 < Kendra> 2nd 21:19 < srevilak> aye to support 21:19 < noe> aye! 21:19 < Kendra> aye 21:20 < jokeefe> aye - motion passes 21:20 < srevilak> It's cool that the 15 now NE photo is in E5's meeting room 21:21 < jokeefe> Freedom Rally - Post will be up tonight 21:22 < srevilak> Re: blog posts, I'm hoping to get another NSA post up this weekend 21:22 < jokeefe> great 21:25 < jokeefe> need a custom flier. Will look at davidd's NL fliers. Asked if he had the source files 21:25 < srevilak> jokeefe: flyer for freedom rally? 21:25 < jokeefe> yes 21:25 < jokeefe> we never have one, and should. 21:26 < srevilak> I can take a pass at flyer copy 21:26 < noe> should it be a general join us flyer? 21:26 < noe> we do have events to promote, but there are a lot of events. 21:27 < srevilak> I assumed that jokeefe meant a flyer to hand out at freedom rally 21:27 < jokeefe> yes 21:27 < srevilak> Why we're here, and why you should support us. Become a pirate 21:28 * srevilak tries to picture a graphic that combines marijuana leaves and a pirate ship 21:28 < Kendra> Might want to include the core MPP values and how they pertain to the event 21:28 < jokeefe> and we support legalization 21:29 < srevilak> Kendra: agreed 21:29 < Kendra> Skull in the middle of the leaf 21:29 < jokeefe> davidd's flier has a nice design 21:29 < srevilak> :) 21:29 < srevilak> I'd also like to mention ending the war on drugs. I think that's a very important issue 21:29 < jokeefe> aye! 21:29 < Kendra> Police out of control 21:29 < noe> agreed! 21:30 < jokeefe> oh yes 21:32 < Kendra> Might have a candidate flyer and an issues flyer 21:32 < jokeefe> agreed 21:32 < jokeefe> need a whole bunch of fliers 21:33 < Kendra> When is the election? 21:33 < noe> three fliers! join us, issues, candidates 21:33 < noe> General election is November 4, 2014 21:34 < Kendra> That 21:34 < Kendra> 's abotu t3n weeks? 21:34 < Kendra> A lot to do, but some good events 21:35 < jokeefe> yes 21:36 < jokeefe> next up - PirateCon 2015 21:37 < Kendra> Is there a set date? 21:37 < jokeefe> no 21:37 < jokeefe> DMC is in the spring. 21:37 < jokeefe> would like to avoid it. 21:37 < noe> Should we assume June? Or maybe August? 21:38 < Kendra> I think either early spring or early summer. Remember finals and graduation. 21:38 < srevilak> Spring break? 21:38 < jokeefe> I was thinking March 21:39 < srevilak> March seems okay 21:40 < noe> Second week of March? (I think thats MIT and Harvard) 21:40 < Kendra> Is there a DMC date set yet? 21:40 < jokeefe> no 21:40 < jokeefe> trying to find college schedules 21:41 < srevilak> March is libreplanet. May want to avoid conflicting with that 21:41 < Kendra> Not to mention Easter and spring break. 21:41 < jokeefe> yes 21:42 < jokeefe> http://www.studentcity.com/when-is-my-spring-break 21:42 < srevilak> If not march, maybe very beginning of April? 21:43 < noe> for Harvard its the week of Mar. 16 and MIT is the week of Mar. 23 21:43 < Kendra> Easter is April 5th 21:43 < Kendra> The weekend of 4/11 might work 21:44 < jokeefe> end of march seems to be spring break free though mit is 22 march 21:44 < Kendra> Or the march 27-29 weekend 21:44 < srevilak> Or late Feb? 21:44 < noe> jokeefe: according to that website, the most common is the week of Mar. 16 21:45 < noe> (derp, 15) 21:45 < jokeefe> yes 21:46 < Kendra> maybe we should put the possible dates on the list and get a feel for what works for the majority of people 21:46 < jokeefe> Can do that. 21:46 < jokeefe> mayfirst has a survey system, IIRC 21:47 < jokeefe> limesurvey 21:47 < srevilak> jokeefe: I can look into limesurvey. 21:47 < srevilak> I know it's kicking around; haven't used it yet 21:49 < jokeefe> found this https://support.mayfirst.org/ticket/3222 21:49 < Kendra> Have we discussed a theme for this years pirate Con? 21:49 < jokeefe> their link to help may not work 21:49 < Kendra> next year 21:49 < jokeefe> no, Kendra, we haven't 21:49 < jokeefe> suggestions? 21:50 < Kendra> We told you so. 21:50 < Kendra> who's paranoid now? 21:51 < Kendra> I'm kidding, but not really 21:52 < Kendra> Maybe Government Transparency post-Snowden 21:53 < noe> That sounds sexier than Accountability 21:53 < Kendra> Police militarization after Ferguson -- 21:54 < srevilak> Kendra: those are both very good titles 21:55 < Kendra> There has been a lot of talk about certain controversial political groups moving to free software to avoid surveillance. Would we consider this a success? What I mean is, in the exampleof ISIS in Syria, if they move to free software to continue what they are doing, is that a good or bad thing? 21:56 < Kendra> Furthermore, what are the perimeters for teaching free software to underrepresented communities under the Patriot Act? can teaching encryption be deemed a violtaion of the Patriot Act or providing material support to X, Y, And Z? 21:57 < jokeefe> I am not worried about whether IS uses free software. The US has already given them enough weapons indirectly. 21:57 < srevilak> Re: ISIS, when people give up guns because ISIS uses guns, then I will give up encryption because ISIS uses encryption 21:57 < Kendra> i have been hearing a bit more about free software falling into to hands of certain groups and I wonder if that will backfire on the FOSS movement. 21:58 < jokeefe> yes, teaching encryption to IS would be material support, but we aren't doing that 21:59 < Kendra> Anyway, expect to hear more about that. the seeds are planted. I man it is free software, so anyone can access it. 21:59 < noe> Kendra: it is possible. Although, I think they would stick to using software that is commonly used by their targets, which typically isn't free. 21:59 < jokeefe> wonder if they use salesforce 21:59 < srevilak> Kendra: translating Arabic has been found to be Violation of Patriot Act (Tarek Mahana). I'm sure teaching free software would be too 22:00 < srevilak> But I think this goes to a bigger issue: how rigorously laws are enforced depends on who you are 22:01 < jokeefe> yes, Tarek Mahana went to jail for what a Mein Kampf translator did. 22:01 < Kendra> Interesting issues, also, they (ISI) got kicked off of Twitter and YouTube and Facebook. we need to think like the police about some of our protected activities. Pkus you never know the intentions of people taking the classes, but where is the bright line between legal and illegal? 22:02 < noe> Ouch, we are at time. 22:02 < Kendra> Might make for some good discussion 22:02 < srevilak> Kendra: agreed 22:02 < jokeefe> agreed on both counts 22:02 < noe> I think this is definitely a good discussion and something we should continue 22:02 < jokeefe> will put a survey together. 22:02 < jokeefe> aye 22:02 < jokeefe> motion to adjourn? 22:02 < noe> motioned 22:02 < Kendra> 2nd 22:03 < jokeefe> all in favor? 22:03 < srevilak> aye 22:03 < Kendra> aye 22:03 < jokeefe> aye 22:03 < noe> aye! 22:03 < Kendra> nite all 22:03 < srevilak> will post notes 22:03 < noe> nite! 22:03 < jokeefe> night