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== Meeting Minutes == | == Meeting Minutes == | ||
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19:32 [Users #masspirates] | |||
19:32 [ davidd] [ Igel] [ srevilak] [ zby] | |||
21:03 * srevilak waves to everyone | |||
21:03 < srevilak> hi everyong | |||
21:04 < Kendra> Hi Everyone | |||
21:05 < srevilak> hi kendra | |||
21:05 < srevilak> so far, all quiet on the horizon | |||
21:05 < Kendra> Hi Steve, did he send the agenda yesterday | |||
21:05 < srevilak> I don't recall seeing one. | |||
21:06 < srevilak> Started an agenda here: http://masspirates.org/wiki/September_5th,_2013_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:08 < Kendra> Thanks. I have been looking at a few articles by this guy Bruce Schnier that are calling for internet engineers to reclaim the inet. Pretty interesting stuff if anyone wants to take a look: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/05/government-betrayed-internet-nsa-spying and https://www.schneier.com/essay-435.html | |||
21:10 < srevilak> Kendra: thanks for pointeres. Schnier is what you could call a cryptography heavyweight | |||
21:12 < srevilak> hey black_van | |||
21:12 < black_van> hey everyone | |||
21:12 < srevilak> quiet so far. Jamie won't be attending, and Lucia will be late | |||
21:13 < srevilak> skeletal agenda at http://masspirates.org/wiki/September_5th,_2013_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:13 < black_van> kk | |||
21:13 < srevilak> Freedom Rally scheduling is an important topic | |||
21:13 < srevilak> but we may want to wait for Lucia | |||
21:13 < srevilak> hi Joe | |||
21:13 < Kendra> Hi Black van. Steve, My next question was if you were familiar with Schnier's writing. I think we have to move past hand wringing and start rethinking how to deal with broken encryption and with making those who hand information over and disregard the 4th Amendment accountable. I am not exactly sure of who to complain to under the circumstance, as they all seem to be in bed together. Who polices the NSA? | |||
21:13 < Kendra> Hi Joe | |||
21:14 < Joe> Hello everyone | |||
21:14 < srevilak> Kendra: I don't think anyone polices the NSA | |||
21:14 < Bluestreak> Lucia Fiero | |||
21:14 < black_van> congress is supposed to | |||
21:14 < Bluestreak> Sorry I'm late | |||
21:14 < Kendra> Kendra Moyer, Arlington | |||
21:14 < srevilak> black_van: yes, but congress has not been well-informed on these issues | |||
21:14 < black_van> agreed | |||
21:14 < black_van> nsa is also lying to them | |||
21:15 < srevilak> Hey Bluestreak. We're just making small talk | |||
21:15 < Bluestreak> You moderating, Steve? | |||
21:15 < Joe> Joseph Guertin, Bellingham | |||
21:15 < srevilak> My attempt at skeletal agenda: http://masspirates.org/wiki/September_5th,_2013_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:15 < Bluestreak> You rock thanks so much | |||
21:15 < black_van> Sevan, Brighton MA | |||
21:15 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA | |||
21:15 < Bluestreak> I have an event to add one sec | |||
21:16 < Kendra> We have a lot of upcoming dates. It should be busy right into winter time. | |||
21:16 < Bluestreak> Yay! | |||
21:17 < Bluestreak> The law firm jason works with is haveing a free event | |||
21:17 < Bluestreak> nibbles and wine | |||
21:17 < Bluestreak> and beer n stuff | |||
21:17 < Bluestreak> free with food | |||
21:17 < Bluestreak> Oh and 1st amnd stuff (that's also important!) | |||
21:18 < Bluestreak> http://www.princelobel.com/news-events-416.html read this pls | |||
21:18 < Bluestreak> Jason and I are going, and we would like other Pirates to join us. | |||
21:19 < Bluestreak> eve of 9/19 | |||
21:19 < Kendra> Is this invitation only? Do people need to RSVP? | |||
21:19 < srevilak> Also: what's the location | |||
21:19 < Bluestreak> It's free, but you need to register. | |||
21:19 < Bluestreak> Also each person can bring 3 guests | |||
21:20 < Bluestreak> They just wnat to know how much food to order | |||
21:20 < Bluestreak> Everyone here will be interested in wired journalism | |||
21:20 < Kendra> I want to tell the people I work with at Versus News about it. Is that OK? | |||
21:20 < Bluestreak> Good place to talk about wikileaks, Barret Brown and Project PM... | |||
21:20 < Bluestreak> Yes, pls | |||
21:21 < Bluestreak> I hope you will be there, too K | |||
21:21 < Bluestreak> I was telling Jason that on the phone | |||
21:21 < srevilak> In terms of agenda, I think that Freedom Rally logistics was an important topic | |||
21:22 < Bluestreak> yes but... | |||
21:22 < Bluestreak> one sec | |||
21:22 < Bluestreak> who will be marching Sat | |||
21:22 < Bluestreak> Garret K is takin gthe lead on another Syria rally | |||
21:22 < srevilak> I'll be there on Sat | |||
21:22 < Bluestreak> I want to encourage ppl to get out there | |||
21:22 < srevilak> Will garret be speaking again? | |||
21:23 < Bluestreak> I will ask him to, but he took the inititiatve last week | |||
21:23 < Bluestreak> (which is awesome) | |||
21:23 < Kendra> I will go to as many of these as I can make time for. | |||
21:23 < Bluestreak> Anyone else want to speak? | |||
21:23 < Bluestreak> Glad to hear it K | |||
21:23 < Bluestreak> Jason and AJ and I should be there | |||
21:24 < srevilak> Do we need pirate banner? | |||
21:24 < Bluestreak> He is not at IRC because he is with his mother. | |||
21:24 < Bluestreak> I have the big one | |||
21:24 < Bluestreak> banner | |||
21:24 < Bluestreak> but Jamie has the pipes | |||
21:24 < Bluestreak> If you are coming Steve you could swing by and get them? | |||
21:24 < Kendra> Where is the rally starting on Saturday? | |||
21:24 < srevilak> I'll talk to Jamie: re pipes | |||
21:25 < srevilak> Kendra: park street 1pm IIRC | |||
21:25 < Bluestreak> Park St I think. lemme see if Garret is on FB | |||
21:27 < srevilak> Announcement for Sat: http://act-ma.org/pipermail/act-ma_act-ma.org/2013/007192.html | |||
21:27 < srevilak> Rally at Park St. Station (Tremont & Park Sts.), 1:00 PM | |||
21:28 < Bluestreak> Same FB event page only updated | |||
21:29 < Bluestreak> get there as early as 10 am if you like but yeah, not until 1 pm | |||
21:29 < Bluestreak> https://www.facebook.com/events/1417584815119642/ Speakersdont start until 1 | |||
21:30 < Bluestreak> OK moving on..? | |||
21:30 < Bluestreak> Freedom Rally | |||
21:30 < black_van> http://i.imgur.com/GWw4JwD.png | |||
21:30 < Bluestreak> LOL | |||
21:30 < Bluestreak> OK we need warm bodies at the table. | |||
21:31 < Bluestreak> two day event | |||
21:31 < Bluestreak> Jason and I are taking the lead and Garret has signed on for all day both days. | |||
21:31 < Bluestreak> But two six hours days is rought. we need support | |||
21:31 < Bluestreak> Jamie said he would help on Sunday, but if his wife is still unwell, I don't want to press him | |||
21:32 < srevilak> Bluestreak: do we have pad, etc to sign up for times? | |||
21:32 < Bluestreak> So... who can help table and when | |||
21:32 < Bluestreak> yes one sec | |||
21:32 < Bluestreak> http://masspirates.org/blog/2013/08/23/sign-up-to-spread-the-mpp-message-at-freedom-rally-914-915-2/ please us the form in this post | |||
21:32 < Kendra> SO six hours each day? If you guys take Saturday I can come give some relief as needed (1-2hours)and take a bigger chunk of Sunday. | |||
21:33 < Bluestreak> Oh, Joan said she would help, too, but IDK if she signed on or not. | |||
21:33 < Kendra> Is it 10-6 or so? | |||
21:33 < Bluestreak> 12 to six iirc | |||
21:34 < black_van> I might be able to come but I don't know when yet | |||
21:34 < black_van> please try to get some people to sign up for the campus coordinator program | |||
21:34 < black_van> we have two people so far that have shown interest | |||
21:34 < Bluestreak> I sure hope you can make it Sevan, even just for an hour | |||
21:34 < black_van> i'll do my best | |||
21:34 < Bluestreak> Names black_van ? | |||
21:34 < Igel> Aye | |||
21:34 < black_van> idk, i'd have to go through my email. | |||
21:35 < Bluestreak> Sat 12-*8* Sun 12-6 | |||
21:35 < srevilak> I'll join for a few hours; need to coordindate schedules with my partner | |||
21:35 < Bluestreak> If you could let me know later that would be great | |||
21:35 < Bluestreak> Bring your partner! :-D | |||
21:35 < Bluestreak> Whee! | |||
21:35 < srevilak> Bluestreak: yes :) | |||
21:35 < Bluestreak> Bringing Julie? | |||
21:35 < Kendra> I can probably do 12-4 or 5 Sunday. Might help some on Saturday, we'll see. | |||
21:36 < srevilak> Bluestreak: I'll try | |||
21:36 < Bluestreak> Yay! | |||
21:36 < srevilak> Aside from who's coming when, what other logistics do we need to work out? | |||
21:36 < srevilak> (flyers, .... etc) | |||
21:36 < Bluestreak> I am still waiting for instructions from Tom | |||
21:36 < Bluestreak> He says they are forthcoming soon | |||
21:36 < Kendra> Are we doing the same set up with the table and the little tent? | |||
21:36 < srevilak> Tom? Event organizer? | |||
21:36 < Bluestreak> I am just going to assume we need to be there with our gear at 10 at least | |||
21:37 < srevilak> Ok. What gear do we need to bring? :) | |||
21:37 < Bluestreak> Tom is vendor coodinator | |||
21:37 < srevilak> ah, thx | |||
21:37 < Bluestreak> Lots od bottled water. Last year I asked ppl for a donation for water. | |||
21:38 < Bluestreak> Lots of dry mouth. | |||
21:38 < Kendra> Are y'all going full Pirate costumes again? | |||
21:38 < Bluestreak> We would like ppl to dress up if possible | |||
21:38 < Bluestreak> I have a couple of hats. One might work for you, Kendra | |||
21:39 < Bluestreak> Jamie had some T shirts shipped here so we can bring them | |||
21:39 < Kendra> Getting close to Halloween, any excuse to dress up allowed for the next 2 months. | |||
21:39 < Bluestreak> LOL | |||
21:39 < Bluestreak> Bring a chair! | |||
21:39 < Bluestreak> bring a camp chair if you want to sit! | |||
21:39 < srevilak> So, costumes, water, chair. Voter reg forms. Sign-up sheets? | |||
21:40 < Bluestreak> I have the flyers | |||
21:40 < Bluestreak> And a clipboard | |||
21:40 < Bluestreak> but srevilak could you get me some voter registration forms? | |||
21:40 < Bluestreak> I have none | |||
21:40 < srevilak> can do | |||
21:40 < Kendra> MPP Brochures and if we can get them the Restore the 4th cards we got at the one march | |||
21:40 < Bluestreak> When are you getting there srevilak ? | |||
21:41 < srevilak> On 14th -- not sure yet | |||
21:41 < srevilak> If I'm not there at the beginning, will find a way to get voter reg forms there | |||
21:42 < Bluestreak> Good enough for me! | |||
21:42 < Bluestreak> OK so after IRC be sure to SIGN THE FORM http://masspirates.org/blog/2013/08/23/sign-up-to-spread-the-mpp-message-at-freedom-rally-914-915-2/ | |||
21:42 < srevilak> will do | |||
21:42 < Bluestreak> Very important | |||
21:42 < Bluestreak> OK moving on? | |||
21:42 < Bluestreak> Berkman institute. That is Kit Walsh's gig | |||
21:43 < Bluestreak> he mentioned it at the cryptoparty then went ahaed and invited us all. I was planning on going. Anyone else? | |||
21:43 < srevilak> I'll be there | |||
21:43 < Kendra> What time is that happening? | |||
21:43 < Bluestreak> Oh good! | |||
21:43 < srevilak> 4pm monday. Berkman center | |||
21:44 < Bluestreak> http://map.harvard.edu/?ctrx=759001&ctry=2963500&level=9&layers=Campus%20Base%20and%20Buildings,Map%20Text MAP | |||
21:44 < Bluestreak> Harvard Law School, Wasserstein Hall, Milstein West Rooms, 2nd Floor | |||
21:45 < black_van> http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1ls4ss/am_i_the_only_one_who_remembers_that_we_were/ | |||
21:45 < Bluestreak> http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/events/wiki/Berkman_Center_Fall_2013_Open_House#Select_Opportunities_to_Get_Involved_at_Berkman | |||
21:45 < Bluestreak> You're on fire Sevan! | |||
21:46 < Bluestreak> OK you are welcome and encouraged to go on the 9th to Kit's thingy. | |||
21:46 < Bluestreak> Moving on | |||
21:47 < Bluestreak> ...I know NOTHING about constitution day... anybody? | |||
21:47 < Kendra> I plan to atend the Berkman thing, I'll let some journalists know it's happening. | |||
21:47 < Bluestreak> It is a regular thing | |||
21:47 < Bluestreak> every month | |||
21:47 < Bluestreak> FYI | |||
21:47 < Bluestreak> iirc | |||
21:48 < Bluestreak> You can ask KIt | |||
21:48 < Bluestreak> let me know if you need his email | |||
21:48 < Bluestreak> anyone going to participate in the constitution day speak out? | |||
21:49 < Kendra> Is it posted anywhere? where is it happening? | |||
21:50 < Bluestreak> srevilak put it n the agenda... What is it Steve? | |||
21:50 < Bluestreak> I have no clue | |||
21:50 < Bluestreak> We can skip it and come back | |||
21:50 < srevilak> I carried forward events from last IRC agenda | |||
21:50 < Bluestreak> Let's worry about it later | |||
21:50 < srevilak> agreed | |||
21:50 < Bluestreak> Software freedom day is a big event for us | |||
21:51 < Bluestreak> I said Jason and I would table, but I haven't looked into it, sorry. | |||
21:51 < Bluestreak> I am just starting to feel like myself again... August was rough. | |||
21:51 < Igel> gnu 30th (relevant.. but im not a LICENSE or COPYING expert..heh.) | |||
21:51 < srevilak> I'll have to leave shortly after my talk. Friends getting married that afternoon | |||
21:52 < Igel> 30th or 20th?...u kno | |||
21:52 < Bluestreak> Mazel Tov | |||
21:52 < Bluestreak> Um wa are talking about the 21st | |||
21:52 < srevilak> GNU 30th is a different event | |||
21:53 < Bluestreak> Igel http://softwarefreedomday.org/ | |||
21:53 < Igel> aye | |||
21:54 < Bluestreak> and Igel, same event https://www.facebook.com/events/585547301483317/ | |||
21:54 < Igel> i think my buddy from twitter mentioned it | |||
21:54 < Igel> omg hey you mailed me right | |||
21:54 < Igel> im not good with names/ircnicks -- | |||
21:54 < Bluestreak> I am Lucia... | |||
21:54 < Igel> i dont have the google+ or facebook accounts | |||
21:55 < Igel> ok so != kendra | |||
21:55 < Bluestreak> Here is the agenda for it Igel http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Boston_Software_Freedom_Day | |||
21:55 < Igel> hrm :/ | |||
21:55 < Igel> nice | |||
21:55 < Bluestreak> srevilak can you talk alittle about your talk? | |||
21:56 < srevilak> title is Protect Your Privacy in the Digital Age | |||
21:56 < srevilak> So I'll be talking about protecting one's privacy :) | |||
21:57 < srevilak> Likely involving links between corp and govt surveillance | |||
21:57 < srevilak> how corps use the web to snoop on what you're doing | |||
21:58 < srevilak> privacy enhancing technologies. | |||
21:58 < srevilak> and risk mgmt | |||
21:58 < Bluestreak> Will you be promoting our cryptoparties? | |||
21:58 < Igel> yaaaar | |||
21:58 < srevilak> Bluestreak: I'll try to work that in | |||
21:58 < Bluestreak> ;-) | |||
21:58 < black_van> k folks | |||
21:58 < Igel> yeah | |||
21:58 < black_van> got to go | |||
21:59 < black_van> peace | |||
21:59 < Bluestreak> night | |||
21:59 < srevilak> Igel and I are working on logistics for Sep 28th Cryptoparty | |||
21:59 < Bluestreak> Who will be able to make it out to SFD to support the quartermaster? | |||
21:59 < Igel> hehee.. | |||
22:00 < Igel> there is a driving force to keep people away from privacy... i think srevilak and I are planning for a great 28th | |||
22:00 < Igel> planon on* | |||
22:00 < Bluestreak> Come promote it at SFD the previous Sat | |||
22:01 < Igel> srevilak: good idea eh? | |||
22:01 < Bluestreak> Yes, and I need to talk to Kate about updating the flyers | |||
22:01 < srevilak> Igel: indeed, I do hope so | |||
22:01 < Bluestreak> You would like flyers to put up, right Igel ? | |||
22:01 < Kendra> I will be at the SFD for a while. It is interesting the intersections of journalisim, human rights and technology emerging. I guess we should bring a few promotional materials to all of the events. | |||
22:02 < Bluestreak> Agreed | |||
22:02 < srevilak> now 22:01. Can we aim to wrap up by 22:30? | |||
22:02 < Igel> Bluestreak: yes | |||
22:02 < Bluestreak> Sure. Sorry I was late | |||
22:02 < Igel> me too | |||
22:02 < Bluestreak> We have two libre planet software meetings coming up. | |||
22:03 < Bluestreak> I know the Captain is speaking on the 6th... amirite? | |||
22:03 < Bluestreak> Again, srevilak if you could clue us in, and post a lilnk to their agenda/wki... because idk know about this | |||
22:04 < srevilak> Bluestreak: yes | |||
22:04 < srevilak> Group is boston linux desktop users group | |||
22:04 < srevilak> They do monthly meetings. Will Rico organizes | |||
22:04 < srevilak> Will try to add links | |||
22:04 < Bluestreak> location? | |||
22:05 < srevilak> http://www.meetup.com/desktop-linux-users-group/ | |||
22:05 < Bluestreak> Thank you | |||
22:06 < Bluestreak> OK last thing | |||
22:06 < Bluestreak> As part of our plan to move the party west we have an invitation to a ... | |||
22:06 < Bluestreak> well more than a party | |||
22:06 < Bluestreak> like a mini music festival | |||
22:06 < Bluestreak> but with plenty of quiet places to talk | |||
22:07 < Bluestreak> hotbed of political discussion | |||
22:07 < Igel> yeah blu srevilak coo | |||
22:07 < Bluestreak> Scorpion bowl | |||
22:07 < Bluestreak> Holyoke | |||
22:07 < Bluestreak> Nov 9 | |||
22:07 < Bluestreak> its a Sat | |||
22:07 < Bluestreak> we need to pack that with Pirates | |||
22:07 < Bluestreak> We are welcome to hand out flyers | |||
22:07 < Bluestreak> and cards | |||
22:08 < srevilak> Bluestreak: have a link to event info? | |||
22:08 < Bluestreak> OK no FB event page yet | |||
22:08 < srevilak> will add to event list | |||
22:08 < Bluestreak> But it will be at 903 Dwight St in Holyoke | |||
22:09 < Bluestreak> TY | |||
22:09 < Bluestreak> 903 Dwight St is Positronic Design | |||
22:10 < Bluestreak> http://www.positronicdesign.com/ | |||
22:10 * Igel marks 21st...how to promote it at SFD? Bluestreak -- w/ the flyers? | |||
22:10 < srevilak> scorpion bowl - it's a music festival? | |||
22:11 < Bluestreak> It's a massive house party but | |||
22:11 < Bluestreak> Dave has a night club in his basement | |||
22:11 < Bluestreak> he usually has 3 bands | |||
22:11 < Bluestreak> grilling and fire pit out side | |||
22:11 < Igel> sounds like a stinger | |||
22:11 < Bluestreak> he has one every six month | |||
22:11 < Bluestreak> the fall one is called Scorpion Bow | |||
22:11 < Bluestreak> BOWL | |||
22:12 < Bluestreak> he is also a music promoter | |||
22:12 < Bluestreak> he knows lots of artists etc | |||
22:12 < Igel> srevilak: bring the cow bell | |||
22:12 < Igel> hehe | |||
22:12 < srevilak> more cow bell | |||
22:12 < Bluestreak> and he knows a lot of the Western Mass activist community | |||
22:12 < Bluestreak> I want to hook his friends up with our friends | |||
22:12 < Bluestreak> Move the party west | |||
22:12 < Igel> i cant commit to a bender :/ | |||
22:12 < srevilak> Bluestreak: sounds like potentially good networking opportunity | |||
22:13 < Igel> hell yes it does | |||
22:13 < Bluestreak> You will really like Dave, I thinl | |||
22:13 < Bluestreak> If ppl need a ride let the list know | |||
22:13 < Bluestreak> it's a good two hours out of Boston | |||
22:13 < Bluestreak> but only 90 min from our house in REDACTED\ | |||
22:14 * Igel usually works 6 or 7 days a week :/ | |||
22:14 < Bluestreak> If we hit it en masse it will be worth the trip | |||
22:14 < Bluestreak> starts at 5 pm goes to whenever | |||
22:14 < Bluestreak> Ok last 2 thingd | |||
22:14 < Igel> i cant commit but i marked the cal for the 9th | |||
22:14 < Bluestreak> PLEASE | |||
22:15 < Bluestreak> OK good Will | |||
22:15 < Bluestreak> Keep it in mind its going to be fun | |||
22:15 < Igel> (id rather keg stand than not kegstand) | |||
22:15 < Igel> hehe | |||
22:15 < Bluestreak> LOL there will be kegs btw | |||
22:15 < Bluestreak> OK PLEASE check the task list for things you can do. | |||
22:15 < Igel> murrka | |||
22:16 < Bluestreak> Try to do one thing a week...? | |||
22:16 < Bluestreak> Steve you got the task list link? | |||
22:16 < srevilak> http://piratenpad.de/SKwdoMqk26 | |||
22:16 < Bluestreak> And lastly... i emailed the only 2 ppl... TY Steve | |||
22:16 < Bluestreak> looking for endorsements | |||
22:16 < Bluestreak> with our agreed upon policy | |||
22:16 < Bluestreak> I have not heard back | |||
22:17 < Bluestreak> Any body have anything to add? | |||
22:17 < Bluestreak> Anybody want to move to adjorn? | |||
22:18 < srevilak> move to adjourn | |||
22:18 < Kendra> No, I have to go though. I move to adjourn. Good night everyone | |||
22:18 < Bluestreak> night | |||
22:18 < Bluestreak> who can 2nd? | |||
22:18 * srevilak seconds kendra's move | |||
22:18 < Bluestreak> Igel 2nd? | |||
22:19 < Joe> second | |||
22:19 < Bluestreak> LOL | |||
22:19 < Igel> yaaar | |||
22:19 < Joe> third | |||
22:19 < Bluestreak> all in favor? | |||
22:19 < srevilak> aye | |||
22:19 < Bluestreak> aye | |||
22:19 < Joe> Aye | |||
22:19 < Igel> aye | |||
22:19 < Bluestreak> Good night folks | |||
22:19 < Bluestreak> See you Sat | |||
22:19 < srevilak> sounds like we're adjourned. 'night folks | |||
22:19 < Joe> Goodnight | |||
22:19 < Igel> * irpg activated * | |||
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Latest revision as of 22:29, 1 February 2018
Agenda
- Events
- No war in Syria 9/7
- Berkman Institute Open House, 9/9. http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/events/wiki/Berkman_Center_Fall_2013_Open_House
- Freedom Rally, September 14 & 15 - Need organizers, announcement for volunteers. Volunteer signup at http://masspirates.wufoo.com/forms/q7x3a1/
- Constitution Day Speakout, September 17, Boston
- Boston Software Freedom Day, Sat., Sept. 21st, 9:30am - 5:30pm
- CryptoParty, Sat., Sept. 28th, ?
- Digital Media Conference, Cambridge, Oct. 25-27
- LibrePlanet Free Software Meeting, Weds Nov 6th, evening, Jamie speaking on the "Dangers of the Surveillance State
- Scorpion Bowl, Positronic Design, 903 Dwight St, Holyoke MA. Nov 9th
- LibrePlanet Free Software Meeting, Weds Dec 4th, evening, Steve speaking
- Endorsements
- Task list: Tasks http://piratenpad.de/SKwdoMqk26
Participants
- davidd
- Igel
- srevilak
- zby
- kendra
- js0000
- black_van
- Bluestreak
Summary
Meeting Minutes
19:32 [Users #masspirates] 19:32 [ davidd] [ Igel] [ srevilak] [ zby] 21:03 * srevilak waves to everyone 21:03 < srevilak> hi everyong 21:04 < Kendra> Hi Everyone 21:05 < srevilak> hi kendra 21:05 < srevilak> so far, all quiet on the horizon 21:05 < Kendra> Hi Steve, did he send the agenda yesterday 21:05 < srevilak> I don't recall seeing one. 21:06 < srevilak> Started an agenda here: http://masspirates.org/wiki/September_5th,_2013_IRC_Meeting 21:08 < Kendra> Thanks. I have been looking at a few articles by this guy Bruce Schnier that are calling for internet engineers to reclaim the inet. Pretty interesting stuff if anyone wants to take a look: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/05/government-betrayed-internet-nsa-spying and https://www.schneier.com/essay-435.html 21:10 < srevilak> Kendra: thanks for pointeres. Schnier is what you could call a cryptography heavyweight 21:12 < srevilak> hey black_van 21:12 < black_van> hey everyone 21:12 < srevilak> quiet so far. Jamie won't be attending, and Lucia will be late 21:13 < srevilak> skeletal agenda at http://masspirates.org/wiki/September_5th,_2013_IRC_Meeting 21:13 < black_van> kk 21:13 < srevilak> Freedom Rally scheduling is an important topic 21:13 < srevilak> but we may want to wait for Lucia 21:13 < srevilak> hi Joe 21:13 < Kendra> Hi Black van. Steve, My next question was if you were familiar with Schnier's writing. I think we have to move past hand wringing and start rethinking how to deal with broken encryption and with making those who hand information over and disregard the 4th Amendment accountable. I am not exactly sure of who to complain to under the circumstance, as they all seem to be in bed together. Who polices the NSA? 21:13 < Kendra> Hi Joe 21:14 < Joe> Hello everyone 21:14 < srevilak> Kendra: I don't think anyone polices the NSA 21:14 < Bluestreak> Lucia Fiero 21:14 < black_van> congress is supposed to 21:14 < Bluestreak> Sorry I'm late 21:14 < Kendra> Kendra Moyer, Arlington 21:14 < srevilak> black_van: yes, but congress has not been well-informed on these issues 21:14 < black_van> agreed 21:14 < black_van> nsa is also lying to them 21:15 < srevilak> Hey Bluestreak. We're just making small talk 21:15 < Bluestreak> You moderating, Steve? 21:15 < Joe> Joseph Guertin, Bellingham 21:15 < srevilak> My attempt at skeletal agenda: http://masspirates.org/wiki/September_5th,_2013_IRC_Meeting 21:15 < Bluestreak> You rock thanks so much 21:15 < black_van> Sevan, Brighton MA 21:15 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA 21:15 < Bluestreak> I have an event to add one sec 21:16 < Kendra> We have a lot of upcoming dates. It should be busy right into winter time. 21:16 < Bluestreak> Yay! 21:17 < Bluestreak> The law firm jason works with is haveing a free event 21:17 < Bluestreak> nibbles and wine 21:17 < Bluestreak> and beer n stuff 21:17 < Bluestreak> free with food 21:17 < Bluestreak> Oh and 1st amnd stuff (that's also important!) 21:18 < Bluestreak> http://www.princelobel.com/news-events-416.html read this pls 21:18 < Bluestreak> Jason and I are going, and we would like other Pirates to join us. 21:19 < Bluestreak> eve of 9/19 21:19 < Kendra> Is this invitation only? Do people need to RSVP? 21:19 < srevilak> Also: what's the location 21:19 < Bluestreak> It's free, but you need to register. 21:19 < Bluestreak> Also each person can bring 3 guests 21:20 < Bluestreak> They just wnat to know how much food to order 21:20 < Bluestreak> Everyone here will be interested in wired journalism 21:20 < Kendra> I want to tell the people I work with at Versus News about it. Is that OK? 21:20 < Bluestreak> Good place to talk about wikileaks, Barret Brown and Project PM... 21:20 < Bluestreak> Yes, pls 21:21 < Bluestreak> I hope you will be there, too K 21:21 < Bluestreak> I was telling Jason that on the phone 21:21 < srevilak> In terms of agenda, I think that Freedom Rally logistics was an important topic 21:22 < Bluestreak> yes but... 21:22 < Bluestreak> one sec 21:22 < Bluestreak> who will be marching Sat 21:22 < Bluestreak> Garret K is takin gthe lead on another Syria rally 21:22 < srevilak> I'll be there on Sat 21:22 < Bluestreak> I want to encourage ppl to get out there 21:22 < srevilak> Will garret be speaking again? 21:23 < Bluestreak> I will ask him to, but he took the inititiatve last week 21:23 < Bluestreak> (which is awesome) 21:23 < Kendra> I will go to as many of these as I can make time for. 21:23 < Bluestreak> Anyone else want to speak? 21:23 < Bluestreak> Glad to hear it K 21:23 < Bluestreak> Jason and AJ and I should be there 21:24 < srevilak> Do we need pirate banner? 21:24 < Bluestreak> He is not at IRC because he is with his mother. 21:24 < Bluestreak> I have the big one 21:24 < Bluestreak> banner 21:24 < Bluestreak> but Jamie has the pipes 21:24 < Bluestreak> If you are coming Steve you could swing by and get them? 21:24 < Kendra> Where is the rally starting on Saturday? 21:24 < srevilak> I'll talk to Jamie: re pipes 21:25 < srevilak> Kendra: park street 1pm IIRC 21:25 < Bluestreak> Park St I think. lemme see if Garret is on FB 21:27 < srevilak> Announcement for Sat: http://act-ma.org/pipermail/act-ma_act-ma.org/2013/007192.html 21:27 < srevilak> Rally at Park St. Station (Tremont & Park Sts.), 1:00 PM 21:28 < Bluestreak> Same FB event page only updated 21:29 < Bluestreak> get there as early as 10 am if you like but yeah, not until 1 pm 21:29 < Bluestreak> https://www.facebook.com/events/1417584815119642/ Speakersdont start until 1 21:30 < Bluestreak> OK moving on..? 21:30 < Bluestreak> Freedom Rally 21:30 < black_van> http://i.imgur.com/GWw4JwD.png 21:30 < Bluestreak> LOL 21:30 < Bluestreak> OK we need warm bodies at the table. 21:31 < Bluestreak> two day event 21:31 < Bluestreak> Jason and I are taking the lead and Garret has signed on for all day both days. 21:31 < Bluestreak> But two six hours days is rought. we need support 21:31 < Bluestreak> Jamie said he would help on Sunday, but if his wife is still unwell, I don't want to press him 21:32 < srevilak> Bluestreak: do we have pad, etc to sign up for times? 21:32 < Bluestreak> So... who can help table and when 21:32 < Bluestreak> yes one sec 21:32 < Bluestreak> http://masspirates.org/blog/2013/08/23/sign-up-to-spread-the-mpp-message-at-freedom-rally-914-915-2/ please us the form in this post 21:32 < Kendra> SO six hours each day? If you guys take Saturday I can come give some relief as needed (1-2hours)and take a bigger chunk of Sunday. 21:33 < Bluestreak> Oh, Joan said she would help, too, but IDK if she signed on or not. 21:33 < Kendra> Is it 10-6 or so? 21:33 < Bluestreak> 12 to six iirc 21:34 < black_van> I might be able to come but I don't know when yet 21:34 < black_van> please try to get some people to sign up for the campus coordinator program 21:34 < black_van> we have two people so far that have shown interest 21:34 < Bluestreak> I sure hope you can make it Sevan, even just for an hour 21:34 < black_van> i'll do my best 21:34 < Bluestreak> Names black_van ? 21:34 < Igel> Aye 21:34 < black_van> idk, i'd have to go through my email. 21:35 < Bluestreak> Sat 12-*8* Sun 12-6 21:35 < srevilak> I'll join for a few hours; need to coordindate schedules with my partner 21:35 < Bluestreak> If you could let me know later that would be great 21:35 < Bluestreak> Bring your partner! :-D 21:35 < Bluestreak> Whee! 21:35 < srevilak> Bluestreak: yes :) 21:35 < Bluestreak> Bringing Julie? 21:35 < Kendra> I can probably do 12-4 or 5 Sunday. Might help some on Saturday, we'll see. 21:36 < srevilak> Bluestreak: I'll try 21:36 < Bluestreak> Yay! 21:36 < srevilak> Aside from who's coming when, what other logistics do we need to work out? 21:36 < srevilak> (flyers, .... etc) 21:36 < Bluestreak> I am still waiting for instructions from Tom 21:36 < Bluestreak> He says they are forthcoming soon 21:36 < Kendra> Are we doing the same set up with the table and the little tent? 21:36 < srevilak> Tom? Event organizer? 21:36 < Bluestreak> I am just going to assume we need to be there with our gear at 10 at least 21:37 < srevilak> Ok. What gear do we need to bring? :) 21:37 < Bluestreak> Tom is vendor coodinator 21:37 < srevilak> ah, thx 21:37 < Bluestreak> Lots od bottled water. Last year I asked ppl for a donation for water. 21:38 < Bluestreak> Lots of dry mouth. 21:38 < Kendra> Are y'all going full Pirate costumes again? 21:38 < Bluestreak> We would like ppl to dress up if possible 21:38 < Bluestreak> I have a couple of hats. One might work for you, Kendra 21:39 < Bluestreak> Jamie had some T shirts shipped here so we can bring them 21:39 < Kendra> Getting close to Halloween, any excuse to dress up allowed for the next 2 months. 21:39 < Bluestreak> LOL 21:39 < Bluestreak> Bring a chair! 21:39 < Bluestreak> bring a camp chair if you want to sit! 21:39 < srevilak> So, costumes, water, chair. Voter reg forms. Sign-up sheets? 21:40 < Bluestreak> I have the flyers 21:40 < Bluestreak> And a clipboard 21:40 < Bluestreak> but srevilak could you get me some voter registration forms? 21:40 < Bluestreak> I have none 21:40 < srevilak> can do 21:40 < Kendra> MPP Brochures and if we can get them the Restore the 4th cards we got at the one march 21:40 < Bluestreak> When are you getting there srevilak ? 21:41 < srevilak> On 14th -- not sure yet 21:41 < srevilak> If I'm not there at the beginning, will find a way to get voter reg forms there 21:42 < Bluestreak> Good enough for me! 21:42 < Bluestreak> OK so after IRC be sure to SIGN THE FORM http://masspirates.org/blog/2013/08/23/sign-up-to-spread-the-mpp-message-at-freedom-rally-914-915-2/ 21:42 < srevilak> will do 21:42 < Bluestreak> Very important 21:42 < Bluestreak> OK moving on? 21:42 < Bluestreak> Berkman institute. That is Kit Walsh's gig 21:43 < Bluestreak> he mentioned it at the cryptoparty then went ahaed and invited us all. I was planning on going. Anyone else? 21:43 < srevilak> I'll be there 21:43 < Kendra> What time is that happening? 21:43 < Bluestreak> Oh good! 21:43 < srevilak> 4pm monday. Berkman center 21:44 < Bluestreak> http://map.harvard.edu/?ctrx=759001&ctry=2963500&level=9&layers=Campus%20Base%20and%20Buildings,Map%20Text MAP 21:44 < Bluestreak> Harvard Law School, Wasserstein Hall, Milstein West Rooms, 2nd Floor 21:45 < black_van> http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1ls4ss/am_i_the_only_one_who_remembers_that_we_were/ 21:45 < Bluestreak> http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/events/wiki/Berkman_Center_Fall_2013_Open_House#Select_Opportunities_to_Get_Involved_at_Berkman 21:45 < Bluestreak> You're on fire Sevan! 21:46 < Bluestreak> OK you are welcome and encouraged to go on the 9th to Kit's thingy. 21:46 < Bluestreak> Moving on 21:47 < Bluestreak> ...I know NOTHING about constitution day... anybody? 21:47 < Kendra> I plan to atend the Berkman thing, I'll let some journalists know it's happening. 21:47 < Bluestreak> It is a regular thing 21:47 < Bluestreak> every month 21:47 < Bluestreak> FYI 21:47 < Bluestreak> iirc 21:48 < Bluestreak> You can ask KIt 21:48 < Bluestreak> let me know if you need his email 21:48 < Bluestreak> anyone going to participate in the constitution day speak out? 21:49 < Kendra> Is it posted anywhere? where is it happening? 21:50 < Bluestreak> srevilak put it n the agenda... What is it Steve? 21:50 < Bluestreak> I have no clue 21:50 < Bluestreak> We can skip it and come back 21:50 < srevilak> I carried forward events from last IRC agenda 21:50 < Bluestreak> Let's worry about it later 21:50 < srevilak> agreed 21:50 < Bluestreak> Software freedom day is a big event for us 21:51 < Bluestreak> I said Jason and I would table, but I haven't looked into it, sorry. 21:51 < Bluestreak> I am just starting to feel like myself again... August was rough. 21:51 < Igel> gnu 30th (relevant.. but im not a LICENSE or COPYING expert..heh.) 21:51 < srevilak> I'll have to leave shortly after my talk. Friends getting married that afternoon 21:52 < Igel> 30th or 20th?...u kno 21:52 < Bluestreak> Mazel Tov 21:52 < Bluestreak> Um wa are talking about the 21st 21:52 < srevilak> GNU 30th is a different event 21:53 < Bluestreak> Igel http://softwarefreedomday.org/ 21:53 < Igel> aye 21:54 < Bluestreak> and Igel, same event https://www.facebook.com/events/585547301483317/ 21:54 < Igel> i think my buddy from twitter mentioned it 21:54 < Igel> omg hey you mailed me right 21:54 < Igel> im not good with names/ircnicks -- 21:54 < Bluestreak> I am Lucia... 21:54 < Igel> i dont have the google+ or facebook accounts 21:55 < Igel> ok so != kendra 21:55 < Bluestreak> Here is the agenda for it Igel http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Boston_Software_Freedom_Day 21:55 < Igel> hrm :/ 21:55 < Igel> nice 21:55 < Bluestreak> srevilak can you talk alittle about your talk? 21:56 < srevilak> title is Protect Your Privacy in the Digital Age 21:56 < srevilak> So I'll be talking about protecting one's privacy :) 21:57 < srevilak> Likely involving links between corp and govt surveillance 21:57 < srevilak> how corps use the web to snoop on what you're doing 21:58 < srevilak> privacy enhancing technologies. 21:58 < srevilak> and risk mgmt 21:58 < Bluestreak> Will you be promoting our cryptoparties? 21:58 < Igel> yaaaar 21:58 < srevilak> Bluestreak: I'll try to work that in 21:58 < Bluestreak> ;-) 21:58 < black_van> k folks 21:58 < Igel> yeah 21:58 < black_van> got to go 21:59 < black_van> peace 21:59 < Bluestreak> night 21:59 < srevilak> Igel and I are working on logistics for Sep 28th Cryptoparty 21:59 < Bluestreak> Who will be able to make it out to SFD to support the quartermaster? 21:59 < Igel> hehee.. 22:00 < Igel> there is a driving force to keep people away from privacy... i think srevilak and I are planning for a great 28th 22:00 < Igel> planon on* 22:00 < Bluestreak> Come promote it at SFD the previous Sat 22:01 < Igel> srevilak: good idea eh? 22:01 < Bluestreak> Yes, and I need to talk to Kate about updating the flyers 22:01 < srevilak> Igel: indeed, I do hope so 22:01 < Bluestreak> You would like flyers to put up, right Igel ? 22:01 < Kendra> I will be at the SFD for a while. It is interesting the intersections of journalisim, human rights and technology emerging. I guess we should bring a few promotional materials to all of the events. 22:02 < Bluestreak> Agreed 22:02 < srevilak> now 22:01. Can we aim to wrap up by 22:30? 22:02 < Igel> Bluestreak: yes 22:02 < Bluestreak> Sure. Sorry I was late 22:02 < Igel> me too 22:02 < Bluestreak> We have two libre planet software meetings coming up. 22:03 < Bluestreak> I know the Captain is speaking on the 6th... amirite? 22:03 < Bluestreak> Again, srevilak if you could clue us in, and post a lilnk to their agenda/wki... because idk know about this 22:04 < srevilak> Bluestreak: yes 22:04 < srevilak> Group is boston linux desktop users group 22:04 < srevilak> They do monthly meetings. Will Rico organizes 22:04 < srevilak> Will try to add links 22:04 < Bluestreak> location? 22:05 < srevilak> http://www.meetup.com/desktop-linux-users-group/ 22:05 < Bluestreak> Thank you 22:06 < Bluestreak> OK last thing 22:06 < Bluestreak> As part of our plan to move the party west we have an invitation to a ... 22:06 < Bluestreak> well more than a party 22:06 < Bluestreak> like a mini music festival 22:06 < Bluestreak> but with plenty of quiet places to talk 22:07 < Bluestreak> hotbed of political discussion 22:07 < Igel> yeah blu srevilak coo 22:07 < Bluestreak> Scorpion bowl 22:07 < Bluestreak> Holyoke 22:07 < Bluestreak> Nov 9 22:07 < Bluestreak> its a Sat 22:07 < Bluestreak> we need to pack that with Pirates 22:07 < Bluestreak> We are welcome to hand out flyers 22:07 < Bluestreak> and cards 22:08 < srevilak> Bluestreak: have a link to event info? 22:08 < Bluestreak> OK no FB event page yet 22:08 < srevilak> will add to event list 22:08 < Bluestreak> But it will be at 903 Dwight St in Holyoke 22:09 < Bluestreak> TY 22:09 < Bluestreak> 903 Dwight St is Positronic Design 22:10 < Bluestreak> http://www.positronicdesign.com/ 22:10 * Igel marks 21st...how to promote it at SFD? Bluestreak -- w/ the flyers? 22:10 < srevilak> scorpion bowl - it's a music festival? 22:11 < Bluestreak> It's a massive house party but 22:11 < Bluestreak> Dave has a night club in his basement 22:11 < Bluestreak> he usually has 3 bands 22:11 < Bluestreak> grilling and fire pit out side 22:11 < Igel> sounds like a stinger 22:11 < Bluestreak> he has one every six month 22:11 < Bluestreak> the fall one is called Scorpion Bow 22:11 < Bluestreak> BOWL 22:12 < Bluestreak> he is also a music promoter 22:12 < Bluestreak> he knows lots of artists etc 22:12 < Igel> srevilak: bring the cow bell 22:12 < Igel> hehe 22:12 < srevilak> more cow bell 22:12 < Bluestreak> and he knows a lot of the Western Mass activist community 22:12 < Bluestreak> I want to hook his friends up with our friends 22:12 < Bluestreak> Move the party west 22:12 < Igel> i cant commit to a bender :/ 22:12 < srevilak> Bluestreak: sounds like potentially good networking opportunity 22:13 < Igel> hell yes it does 22:13 < Bluestreak> You will really like Dave, I thinl 22:13 < Bluestreak> If ppl need a ride let the list know 22:13 < Bluestreak> it's a good two hours out of Boston 22:13 < Bluestreak> but only 90 min from our house in REDACTED\ 22:14 * Igel usually works 6 or 7 days a week :/ 22:14 < Bluestreak> If we hit it en masse it will be worth the trip 22:14 < Bluestreak> starts at 5 pm goes to whenever 22:14 < Bluestreak> Ok last 2 thingd 22:14 < Igel> i cant commit but i marked the cal for the 9th 22:14 < Bluestreak> PLEASE 22:15 < Bluestreak> OK good Will 22:15 < Bluestreak> Keep it in mind its going to be fun 22:15 < Igel> (id rather keg stand than not kegstand) 22:15 < Igel> hehe 22:15 < Bluestreak> LOL there will be kegs btw 22:15 < Bluestreak> OK PLEASE check the task list for things you can do. 22:15 < Igel> murrka 22:16 < Bluestreak> Try to do one thing a week...? 22:16 < Bluestreak> Steve you got the task list link? 22:16 < srevilak> http://piratenpad.de/SKwdoMqk26 22:16 < Bluestreak> And lastly... i emailed the only 2 ppl... TY Steve 22:16 < Bluestreak> looking for endorsements 22:16 < Bluestreak> with our agreed upon policy 22:16 < Bluestreak> I have not heard back 22:17 < Bluestreak> Any body have anything to add? 22:17 < Bluestreak> Anybody want to move to adjorn? 22:18 < srevilak> move to adjourn 22:18 < Kendra> No, I have to go though. I move to adjourn. Good night everyone 22:18 < Bluestreak> night 22:18 < Bluestreak> who can 2nd? 22:18 * srevilak seconds kendra's move 22:18 < Bluestreak> Igel 2nd? 22:19 < Joe> second 22:19 < Bluestreak> LOL 22:19 < Igel> yaaar 22:19 < Joe> third 22:19 < Bluestreak> all in favor? 22:19 < srevilak> aye 22:19 < Bluestreak> aye 22:19 < Joe> Aye 22:19 < Igel> aye 22:19 < Bluestreak> Good night folks 22:19 < Bluestreak> See you Sat 22:19 < srevilak> sounds like we're adjourned. 'night folks 22:19 < Joe> Goodnight 22:19 < Igel> * irpg activated *