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21:03 < jokeefe> Agenda - | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/February_26th,_2015_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:04 < jokeefe> ids - James O’Keefe, Somerville | |||
21:05 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA | |||
21:05 < Lulu> Lucia Fiero | |||
21:05 < jokeefe> Events - Mar. 15, Boston Peace Parade | |||
21:05 < Lulu> DRESS WARMLY! | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> wanted to see who will make it. we should start | |||
calling Bostonians | |||
21:06 < srevilak> I'll be there. Was wondering if we should have a | |||
sign-making party | |||
21:06 < Lulu> I intend to be there. Can’t speak for Jason. | |||
21:07 < jokeefe> sign making party sounds good. would volunteer noe’s | |||
place, but she should sign off | |||
21:10 < jokeefe> well will bring it up to Noe | |||
21:11 < jokeefe> Update on Mar. 18, SCATV Pirate Show, 7pm? or need Noe | |||
for that? | |||
21:11 < Lulu> Well, idk if she got to the Voltage today. | |||
21:11 < Lulu> I wasn’t able to. | |||
21:12 < Lulu> I will really try to make it next Th… | |||
21:12 < Lulu> If there is a meeting next Th. | |||
21:12 < jokeefe> ahoy | |||
21:12 < Kendra> Hi | |||
21:12 < Lulu> Frank is a lock. Still no word from BLM | |||
21:13 < jokeefe> Talking about events. Agenda is | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/February_26th,_2015_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:13 < Lulu> If Alex brings someone from his group that is 3 panelists | |||
21:13 < Lulu> 4 if Noe will be a panelist… I could moderate… | |||
21:14 < jokeefe> Talking about SCATV show | |||
21:16 < jokeefe> well need Noe to figure out final details | |||
21:16 < jokeefe> moving on to Mar. 22, Cryptoparty, Worcester | |||
21:17 < Lulu> I will start pestering her more than I have been. | |||
21:17 < jokeefe> will also mention it to her | |||
21:17 < jokeefe> Worcester groups we could invite? | |||
21:18 < Lulu> I will again invite Susan and Rich. | |||
21:18 < Lulu> and ask them for suggestions. | |||
21:18 < Lulu> Hopefully it won’t snow. | |||
21:19 < jokeefe> hopefully | |||
21:19 < Kendra> I know Delia from Jobs not jails lives out there, talked | |||
to her at the last JNJ meeting about a cryptoparty in the future out | |||
that way. I can email her. | |||
21:20 < Lulu> That’s great. | |||
21:20 < jokeefe> thanks to you both. | |||
21:20 < Lulu> Thanks, Kendra. | |||
21:20 < srevilak> Can do craigslist posts | |||
21:20 < Lulu> Yes, that was a good idea. | |||
21:20 < srevilak> Aside from me, who's presenting? :) | |||
21:21 < jokeefe> happy to do so or have others do it. | |||
21:21 < srevilak> We should pick a time to nail down agenda | |||
21:21 < srevilak> perhaps next IRC? | |||
21:21 < Kendra> I would be willing to do another encrypted video chat | |||
presentation, need to check that I am not working. Doesn't have to be | |||
just Jitsi. | |||
21:22 < srevilak> thx Kendra | |||
21:22 < jokeefe> ahoy | |||
21:22 < Lulu> ahoy! | |||
21:22 < noe> ahoy! | |||
21:22 < Lulu> We can roll back to the show? | |||
21:22 < jokeefe> yes, but lets finish this up | |||
21:22 < jokeefe> we are talking about the Worcester cryptoparty, noe | |||
21:23 < jokeefe> srevilak, do we have a post on running an event? | |||
we should put the craigslist links up there. | |||
21:24 < jokeefe> noe, any update on the SCATV show? | |||
21:24 < noe> We have studio time on March 18th | |||
21:25 < Lulu> You missed the part where I said we have panelists. | |||
21:25 < Lulu> Frank Alex… and you? | |||
21:25 < noe> Officially, cameras should go on at 7pm. I still need to | |||
meet with Erica or Ben regarding more details and how many volunteers | |||
we need. | |||
21:25 < srevilak> jokeefe: you mean an event checklist. I don't think | |||
we have one, but it would be a good thing to have | |||
21:26 < Lulu> I’ve been telling ppl to arrive not later than 6:30 | |||
21:26 < noe> That is awesome! | |||
21:26 < jokeefe> yes, srevilak | |||
21:26 < Lulu> We need to write the copy for the teleprompter. | |||
21:27 < noe> If we're on top of it enough, we should get the copy to | |||
our panelists beforehand. :) | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> who are the panelists? Lulu said Frank is a go. | |||
21:28 < noe> Or get it here to the IRC so people can look at it and | |||
give suggestions. | |||
21:28 < Lulu> And Alex, obviously | |||
21:28 < Lulu> I have heard nothing from BLM | |||
21:29 < jokeefe> noe, are you a participant or the moderator? | |||
21:29 < Lulu> Anybody in particular I should try? | |||
21:29 < noe> probably a moderator, but . . . | |||
21:29 < Lulu> you could be a guest if you want | |||
21:29 < noe> i was a moderator in the summer and a panelist did not | |||
arrive and I ended up moder-panelling for the issues they represented | |||
21:30 < Lulu> panelist I mean | |||
21:30 < noe> more panelists are always welcome | |||
21:30 < noe> moder-panelling: the kind of panelling you can find in | |||
modern houses | |||
21:30 < jokeefe> :-) | |||
21:31 < noe> I am aware that there is always a risk of moder-panelling, | |||
similar to how when you organize a thing you may end up orga-lecturing | |||
21:31 < Lulu> So other than the BLM gneral mailbox | |||
21:31 < Lulu> I will be at the show OK? Promise. | |||
21:31 < Lulu> Barring disaster. | |||
21:31 < noe> ok. | |||
21:31 < Lulu> So you can do either or both. | |||
21:32 < Lulu> So anyone know anyone specfically from BLM? | |||
21:32 < Lulu> Black Lives Matter Boston? | |||
21:33 < jokeefe> carl williams? comes to mind | |||
21:33 < Lulu> Is he? Didn’t know that\. | |||
21:33 < Lulu> I will ping him on FB for suggestions/ideas | |||
21:33 < noe> Sadly, no. | |||
21:34 < Lulu> Sorry? | |||
21:34 < noe> I don't know anyone specifically from BLM. | |||
21:34 < noe> I know their usernames, but haven't gotten to realname | |||
status. | |||
21:34 < Lulu> Noe are you free sometime for a phone date to talk about | |||
the show? | |||
21:34 < Lulu> Some time soonish? | |||
21:35 < noe> Lulu: yes, Sunday afternoon would work for me | |||
21:35 < Lulu> OK cool. | |||
21:35 < Lulu> If anyone else would like to be involved we could do a | |||
hangout instead. | |||
21:35 < jokeefe> moving to next item. going to skip Jun. 13, Boston | |||
Pride Parade since we talked about it last week | |||
21:35 < Lulu> But if it’s just us two phone is fine, thanks | |||
21:35 < jokeefe> Sep. 19 & 20, Freedom Rally | |||
21:36 < Lulu> Jason and I are a go for both, as usual. | |||
21:36 < jokeefe> good. srevilak had some questions: | |||
21:36 < jokeefe> Payment method? | |||
21:36 < srevilak> specifically, in-kind or we pay out of pocket. | |||
21:36 < Lulu> How much in the bank? | |||
21:36 < srevilak> And, who's are point of contact with Mass concessions | |||
21:36 < srevilak> $948 | |||
21:36 < jokeefe> would like to keep on budget/bank account if we can. | |||
21:37 < Lulu> Prolly the same guy as last year. | |||
21:37 < jokeefe> is that minus mayfirst? | |||
21:37 < Lulu> I met him at set up last year | |||
21:37 < srevilak> No | |||
21:37 < srevilak> $948 - MFPL - Freedom Rally = 448 | |||
21:37 < Lulu> Fundraiser! | |||
21:37 < srevilak> plus, we'll owe $300 to CCB for piratecon | |||
21:37 < srevilak> leaving $148 | |||
21:37 < noe> whoa | |||
21:37 < Lulu> Time to start calling people. | |||
21:38 < noe> time to donate! | |||
21:38 < jokeefe> I should give you a donation this weekend. | |||
21:38 < Lulu> Joe’s campaign gave 300 bucks | |||
21:38 < srevilak> time to add a fundraising position to pirate council :) | |||
21:38 < Lulu> Who would like that job? | |||
21:38 < srevilak> Lulu: $280 actually, and that's accounted for | |||
21:38 < noe> get that checkholder rready, srevilak, as the checks pour in | |||
21:39 < jokeefe> probably srevilak | |||
21:39 < Lulu> Right… Just trying to give Joe some props | |||
21:39 < Lulu> Though most of that was from you! | |||
21:39 < srevilak> No, definitely props to joe | |||
21:39 < Lulu> :-) | |||
21:39 < jokeefe> aye | |||
21:40 < jokeefe> so payment method is check | |||
21:40 < jokeefe> point of contact? | |||
21:41 < Lulu> for pride? | |||
21:42 < jokeefe> freedom rally | |||
21:42 < Lulu> Tom | |||
21:42 < Lulu> Tom… something… checking | |||
21:42 < jokeefe> who is our point of contact? | |||
21:43 < Lulu> Tom Ferguson | |||
21:43 < Lulu> @ concessions ltd. | |||
21:43 < jokeefe> srevilak, are you asking who will be contacting Tom | |||
Ferguson? | |||
21:44 < srevilak> Yes, who will liase with Tom Ferguson | |||
21:44 < srevilak> In other words, who's contact info goes on the | |||
application? | |||
21:45 < Lulu> Jut got an email from a friend about net neutrality victory | |||
and isn’t OBAMA the big hero? | |||
21:45 < Lulu> Sorry | |||
21:45 < Lulu> Boggles the mind | |||
21:46 < noe> I can do it. Does it just need to be a breathing human? | |||
21:46 < jokeefe> hi igel | |||
21:46 < noe> Or should I also show up everyday at Freedom Rally? | |||
21:46 < srevilak> Noe, I believe that will do :) | |||
21:46 < igel> yaar | |||
21:46 < Lulu> Oh duh I could do that. | |||
21:46 < Lulu> ahoy | |||
21:46 < noe> ahoy | |||
21:47 < jokeefe> thanks, noe | |||
21:47 < srevilak> Okay | |||
21:47 < igel> oohf, sorry im late. | |||
21:47 < srevilak> This weekend -- will get MFPL payment and Freedom | |||
rally pmt in the mail | |||
21:47 < jokeefe> any other freedom rally questions srevilak? | |||
21:48 < srevilak> No, no further questions | |||
21:49 < jokeefe> PirateCon 2015 program - still working on speakers, | |||
anyone else have an update? | |||
21:50 < srevilak> Re: wage inequality | |||
21:50 < srevilak> got a `yes' From socialist alternative | |||
21:50 < jokeefe> good | |||
21:50 < srevilak> waiting for responses from 15 now ma, and Natl | |||
organization of women | |||
21:51 < srevilak> Will put out call to dollars and sense | |||
21:51 < noe> great job! | |||
21:51 < jokeefe> great | |||
21:51 < jokeefe> anyone else? | |||
21:53 < jokeefe> moving on | |||
21:54 < jokeefe> Establishing Regions - we need to decentralize things | |||
and having a regional break down would help | |||
21:55 < jokeefe> Jason worked on a first draft of a map which I expanded | |||
on - https://masspirates.org/wiki/Region_Proposal | |||
21:55 < jokeefe> are they too uneven? | |||
21:56 < Lulu> Not sure how to determine that | |||
21:57 < srevilak> All regions have decent sized populations. Seems | |||
reasonable to me | |||
21:57 < jokeefe> equalize by population? | |||
21:57 < noe> some of them have less people and more land mass, but I | |||
think that makes sense. | |||
21:57 < srevilak> No. Some areas seem better by themselves, even if | |||
small population. Like the islands | |||
21:57 < noe> we want people in those regions to be able to work together, | |||
meet in person, and if their regions are too large, they probably won't | |||
be able to. | |||
21:58 < jokeefe> thing is three wmass counties are so small and boston | |||
is so populated. | |||
21:58 < noe> srevilak: yes, exactly like islands. | |||
21:59 < Lulu> What Noe said | |||
21:59 < srevilak> jokeefe: yup, you could balance the state on one finger | |||
... right under Rt. 128 | |||
21:59 < jokeefe> could break up boston, but that seems wrong and difficult | |||
to then organize it | |||
22:00 < Kendra> This is the joy of politics. Like anyone can figure out | |||
a fair way to divide people into regions that makes sense. Someone will | |||
always feel dominated. Sorry, Jamie is there an actual map or visual | |||
infographic or are we just looking at the numbers? | |||
22:00 < noe> numbers, i think. | |||
22:01 < jokeefe> sadly no map, though the city breakdown is later on in | |||
the page | |||
22:01 < Lulu> Jason can email you the link to the GIS file. | |||
22:01 < Lulu> That is a map | |||
22:01 < Lulu> I will ask him to do that tonight. | |||
22:02 < srevilak> we're at time | |||
22:02 < Kendra> How many different regions would we want to have ideally? | |||
22:02 < jokeefe> ideally 30, but this would give us 22. just go with | |||
it for now? | |||
22:03 < srevilak> I'd say go with it | |||
22:03 < jokeefe> not like we cannot change it | |||
22:03 < noe> i like ambition. 22 for now and see if it catches on? | |||
22:03 < Kendra> I'm ok with that. Also ready to adjourn. | |||
22:03 < Lulu> don’t let perfect... | |||
22:03 < noe> second | |||
22:03 < Lulu> blah blah blah | |||
22:03 < jokeefe> any objections ot the region proposals? | |||
22:03 < srevilak> no objection | |||
22:04 < igel> im not sure i know enough to form an argument against | |||
regional | |||
22:04 < igel> but i was sort of thinking of voting trends per district. | |||
22:04 < jokeefe> is ok, when you do we can adjust it if need be ;-) | |||
22:04 < igel> HEH | |||
22:05 < jokeefe> ok, motion passes then | |||
22:05 < jokeefe> motion to adjourn? | |||
22:05 < srevilak> motion | |||
22:05 < noe> second! | |||
22:05 < jokeefe> 2nd | |||
22:05 < Kendra> aye | |||
22:05 < jokeefe> all in favor? | |||
22:05 < igel> aye | |||
22:05 < Lulu> aye | |||
22:05 < noe> aye | |||
22:05 < srevilak> aye | |||
22:05 < jokeefe> aye | |||
22:05 < jokeefe> night all! thank you! | |||
22:06 < srevilak> will post transcript | |||
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Latest revision as of 23:08, 1 February 2018
Review
Decisions
- Event Planning
- Mar. 4, Will talks about MeshNets
- Mar. 15, Boston Peace Parade
- Mar. 18, SCATV Pirate Show, 7pm
- Mar. 22, Cryptoparty, Worcester
- Jun. 13, Boston Pride Parade
- Sep. 19 & 20, Freedom Rally - Can register now
- Payment method?
- who's serving as point of contact?
- PirateCon 2015
- Program updates?
- Establishing Regions?
- Swarmwise suggests dividing into 20-30 regions.
- Jason worked on a first draft of a map which Jamie has expanded with this Region Proposal.
Defer to next meeting?
- Restore the 4th Bills - Jamie hasn't posted blog post about them. Will this weekend.
- SD1546 Mandates Police Bodycams, protects data - Summary, Bill text
- HD430, Reining in Militarization in Massachusetts - Summary & Bill text
Events Summary
- Mar. 4, Will talks about MeshNets
- Mar. 15, Boston Peace Parade
- Mar. 18, SCATV Pirate Show, 7pm
- Mar. 22, Cryptoparty, Worcester
- Apr. 25, PirateCon 2015
- May 6, International Day against DRM
- May, Together Boston Cryptoparty?
- Jun. 13, Boston Pride Parade
- Jun. event?
- Jul. event?
- Aug. event?
- Sep., Freedom Rally
- Oct. event?
- Nov. event?
- Dec. event?
Every Thu., Digital Fourth meeting, 11:20am-1:30pm, Voltage Cafe, Third Street, Cambridge
Participants
- jokeefe (James O’Keefe, Somerville)
- srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA)
- Lulu (Lucia Fiero)
- Kendra
- Noe
- Igel
Observers
- davidd
- Pharyngeal
- zby
- itspara
Minutes
21:03 < jokeefe> Agenda - https://masspirates.org/wiki/February_26th,_2015_IRC_Meeting 21:04 < jokeefe> ids - James O’Keefe, Somerville 21:05 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA 21:05 < Lulu> Lucia Fiero 21:05 < jokeefe> Events - Mar. 15, Boston Peace Parade 21:05 < Lulu> DRESS WARMLY! 21:06 < jokeefe> wanted to see who will make it. we should start calling Bostonians 21:06 < srevilak> I'll be there. Was wondering if we should have a sign-making party 21:06 < Lulu> I intend to be there. Can’t speak for Jason. 21:07 < jokeefe> sign making party sounds good. would volunteer noe’s place, but she should sign off 21:10 < jokeefe> well will bring it up to Noe 21:11 < jokeefe> Update on Mar. 18, SCATV Pirate Show, 7pm? or need Noe for that? 21:11 < Lulu> Well, idk if she got to the Voltage today. 21:11 < Lulu> I wasn’t able to. 21:12 < Lulu> I will really try to make it next Th… 21:12 < Lulu> If there is a meeting next Th. 21:12 < jokeefe> ahoy 21:12 < Kendra> Hi 21:12 < Lulu> Frank is a lock. Still no word from BLM 21:13 < jokeefe> Talking about events. Agenda is https://masspirates.org/wiki/February_26th,_2015_IRC_Meeting 21:13 < Lulu> If Alex brings someone from his group that is 3 panelists 21:13 < Lulu> 4 if Noe will be a panelist… I could moderate… 21:14 < jokeefe> Talking about SCATV show 21:16 < jokeefe> well need Noe to figure out final details 21:16 < jokeefe> moving on to Mar. 22, Cryptoparty, Worcester 21:17 < Lulu> I will start pestering her more than I have been. 21:17 < jokeefe> will also mention it to her 21:17 < jokeefe> Worcester groups we could invite? 21:18 < Lulu> I will again invite Susan and Rich. 21:18 < Lulu> and ask them for suggestions. 21:18 < Lulu> Hopefully it won’t snow. 21:19 < jokeefe> hopefully 21:19 < Kendra> I know Delia from Jobs not jails lives out there, talked to her at the last JNJ meeting about a cryptoparty in the future out that way. I can email her. 21:20 < Lulu> That’s great. 21:20 < jokeefe> thanks to you both. 21:20 < Lulu> Thanks, Kendra. 21:20 < srevilak> Can do craigslist posts 21:20 < Lulu> Yes, that was a good idea. 21:20 < srevilak> Aside from me, who's presenting? :) 21:21 < jokeefe> happy to do so or have others do it. 21:21 < srevilak> We should pick a time to nail down agenda 21:21 < srevilak> perhaps next IRC? 21:21 < Kendra> I would be willing to do another encrypted video chat presentation, need to check that I am not working. Doesn't have to be just Jitsi. 21:22 < srevilak> thx Kendra 21:22 < jokeefe> ahoy 21:22 < Lulu> ahoy! 21:22 < noe> ahoy! 21:22 < Lulu> We can roll back to the show? 21:22 < jokeefe> yes, but lets finish this up 21:22 < jokeefe> we are talking about the Worcester cryptoparty, noe 21:23 < jokeefe> srevilak, do we have a post on running an event? we should put the craigslist links up there. 21:24 < jokeefe> noe, any update on the SCATV show? 21:24 < noe> We have studio time on March 18th 21:25 < Lulu> You missed the part where I said we have panelists. 21:25 < Lulu> Frank Alex… and you? 21:25 < noe> Officially, cameras should go on at 7pm. I still need to meet with Erica or Ben regarding more details and how many volunteers we need. 21:25 < srevilak> jokeefe: you mean an event checklist. I don't think we have one, but it would be a good thing to have 21:26 < Lulu> I’ve been telling ppl to arrive not later than 6:30 21:26 < noe> That is awesome! 21:26 < jokeefe> yes, srevilak 21:26 < Lulu> We need to write the copy for the teleprompter. 21:27 < noe> If we're on top of it enough, we should get the copy to our panelists beforehand. :) 21:28 < jokeefe> who are the panelists? Lulu said Frank is a go. 21:28 < noe> Or get it here to the IRC so people can look at it and give suggestions. 21:28 < Lulu> And Alex, obviously 21:28 < Lulu> I have heard nothing from BLM 21:29 < jokeefe> noe, are you a participant or the moderator? 21:29 < Lulu> Anybody in particular I should try? 21:29 < noe> probably a moderator, but . . . 21:29 < Lulu> you could be a guest if you want 21:29 < noe> i was a moderator in the summer and a panelist did not arrive and I ended up moder-panelling for the issues they represented 21:30 < Lulu> panelist I mean 21:30 < noe> more panelists are always welcome 21:30 < noe> moder-panelling: the kind of panelling you can find in modern houses 21:30 < jokeefe> :-) 21:31 < noe> I am aware that there is always a risk of moder-panelling, similar to how when you organize a thing you may end up orga-lecturing 21:31 < Lulu> So other than the BLM gneral mailbox 21:31 < Lulu> I will be at the show OK? Promise. 21:31 < Lulu> Barring disaster. 21:31 < noe> ok. 21:31 < Lulu> So you can do either or both. 21:32 < Lulu> So anyone know anyone specfically from BLM? 21:32 < Lulu> Black Lives Matter Boston? 21:33 < jokeefe> carl williams? comes to mind 21:33 < Lulu> Is he? Didn’t know that\. 21:33 < Lulu> I will ping him on FB for suggestions/ideas 21:33 < noe> Sadly, no. 21:34 < Lulu> Sorry? 21:34 < noe> I don't know anyone specifically from BLM. 21:34 < noe> I know their usernames, but haven't gotten to realname status. 21:34 < Lulu> Noe are you free sometime for a phone date to talk about the show? 21:34 < Lulu> Some time soonish? 21:35 < noe> Lulu: yes, Sunday afternoon would work for me 21:35 < Lulu> OK cool. 21:35 < Lulu> If anyone else would like to be involved we could do a hangout instead. 21:35 < jokeefe> moving to next item. going to skip Jun. 13, Boston Pride Parade since we talked about it last week 21:35 < Lulu> But if it’s just us two phone is fine, thanks 21:35 < jokeefe> Sep. 19 & 20, Freedom Rally 21:36 < Lulu> Jason and I are a go for both, as usual. 21:36 < jokeefe> good. srevilak had some questions: 21:36 < jokeefe> Payment method? 21:36 < srevilak> specifically, in-kind or we pay out of pocket. 21:36 < Lulu> How much in the bank? 21:36 < srevilak> And, who's are point of contact with Mass concessions 21:36 < srevilak> $948 21:36 < jokeefe> would like to keep on budget/bank account if we can. 21:37 < Lulu> Prolly the same guy as last year. 21:37 < jokeefe> is that minus mayfirst? 21:37 < Lulu> I met him at set up last year 21:37 < srevilak> No 21:37 < srevilak> $948 - MFPL - Freedom Rally = 448 21:37 < Lulu> Fundraiser! 21:37 < srevilak> plus, we'll owe $300 to CCB for piratecon 21:37 < srevilak> leaving $148 21:37 < noe> whoa 21:37 < Lulu> Time to start calling people. 21:38 < noe> time to donate! 21:38 < jokeefe> I should give you a donation this weekend. 21:38 < Lulu> Joe’s campaign gave 300 bucks 21:38 < srevilak> time to add a fundraising position to pirate council :) 21:38 < Lulu> Who would like that job? 21:38 < srevilak> Lulu: $280 actually, and that's accounted for 21:38 < noe> get that checkholder rready, srevilak, as the checks pour in 21:39 < jokeefe> probably srevilak 21:39 < Lulu> Right… Just trying to give Joe some props 21:39 < Lulu> Though most of that was from you! 21:39 < srevilak> No, definitely props to joe 21:39 < Lulu> :-) 21:39 < jokeefe> aye 21:40 < jokeefe> so payment method is check 21:40 < jokeefe> point of contact? 21:41 < Lulu> for pride? 21:42 < jokeefe> freedom rally 21:42 < Lulu> Tom 21:42 < Lulu> Tom… something… checking 21:42 < jokeefe> who is our point of contact? 21:43 < Lulu> Tom Ferguson 21:43 < Lulu> @ concessions ltd. 21:43 < jokeefe> srevilak, are you asking who will be contacting Tom Ferguson? 21:44 < srevilak> Yes, who will liase with Tom Ferguson 21:44 < srevilak> In other words, who's contact info goes on the application? 21:45 < Lulu> Jut got an email from a friend about net neutrality victory and isn’t OBAMA the big hero? 21:45 < Lulu> Sorry 21:45 < Lulu> Boggles the mind 21:46 < noe> I can do it. Does it just need to be a breathing human? 21:46 < jokeefe> hi igel 21:46 < noe> Or should I also show up everyday at Freedom Rally? 21:46 < srevilak> Noe, I believe that will do :) 21:46 < igel> yaar 21:46 < Lulu> Oh duh I could do that. 21:46 < Lulu> ahoy 21:46 < noe> ahoy 21:47 < jokeefe> thanks, noe 21:47 < srevilak> Okay 21:47 < igel> oohf, sorry im late. 21:47 < srevilak> This weekend -- will get MFPL payment and Freedom rally pmt in the mail 21:47 < jokeefe> any other freedom rally questions srevilak? 21:48 < srevilak> No, no further questions 21:49 < jokeefe> PirateCon 2015 program - still working on speakers, anyone else have an update? 21:50 < srevilak> Re: wage inequality 21:50 < srevilak> got a `yes' From socialist alternative 21:50 < jokeefe> good 21:50 < srevilak> waiting for responses from 15 now ma, and Natl organization of women 21:51 < srevilak> Will put out call to dollars and sense 21:51 < noe> great job! 21:51 < jokeefe> great 21:51 < jokeefe> anyone else? 21:53 < jokeefe> moving on 21:54 < jokeefe> Establishing Regions - we need to decentralize things and having a regional break down would help 21:55 < jokeefe> Jason worked on a first draft of a map which I expanded on - https://masspirates.org/wiki/Region_Proposal 21:55 < jokeefe> are they too uneven? 21:56 < Lulu> Not sure how to determine that 21:57 < srevilak> All regions have decent sized populations. Seems reasonable to me 21:57 < jokeefe> equalize by population? 21:57 < noe> some of them have less people and more land mass, but I think that makes sense. 21:57 < srevilak> No. Some areas seem better by themselves, even if small population. Like the islands 21:57 < noe> we want people in those regions to be able to work together, meet in person, and if their regions are too large, they probably won't be able to. 21:58 < jokeefe> thing is three wmass counties are so small and boston is so populated. 21:58 < noe> srevilak: yes, exactly like islands. 21:59 < Lulu> What Noe said 21:59 < srevilak> jokeefe: yup, you could balance the state on one finger ... right under Rt. 128 21:59 < jokeefe> could break up boston, but that seems wrong and difficult to then organize it 22:00 < Kendra> This is the joy of politics. Like anyone can figure out a fair way to divide people into regions that makes sense. Someone will always feel dominated. Sorry, Jamie is there an actual map or visual infographic or are we just looking at the numbers? 22:00 < noe> numbers, i think. 22:01 < jokeefe> sadly no map, though the city breakdown is later on in the page 22:01 < Lulu> Jason can email you the link to the GIS file. 22:01 < Lulu> That is a map 22:01 < Lulu> I will ask him to do that tonight. 22:02 < srevilak> we're at time 22:02 < Kendra> How many different regions would we want to have ideally? 22:02 < jokeefe> ideally 30, but this would give us 22. just go with it for now? 22:03 < srevilak> I'd say go with it 22:03 < jokeefe> not like we cannot change it 22:03 < noe> i like ambition. 22 for now and see if it catches on? 22:03 < Kendra> I'm ok with that. Also ready to adjourn. 22:03 < Lulu> don’t let perfect... 22:03 < noe> second 22:03 < Lulu> blah blah blah 22:03 < jokeefe> any objections ot the region proposals? 22:03 < srevilak> no objection 22:04 < igel> im not sure i know enough to form an argument against regional 22:04 < igel> but i was sort of thinking of voting trends per district. 22:04 < jokeefe> is ok, when you do we can adjust it if need be ;-) 22:04 < igel> HEH 22:05 < jokeefe> ok, motion passes then 22:05 < jokeefe> motion to adjourn? 22:05 < srevilak> motion 22:05 < noe> second! 22:05 < jokeefe> 2nd 22:05 < Kendra> aye 22:05 < jokeefe> all in favor? 22:05 < igel> aye 22:05 < Lulu> aye 22:05 < noe> aye 22:05 < srevilak> aye 22:05 < jokeefe> aye 22:05 < jokeefe> night all! thank you! 22:06 < srevilak> will post transcript