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# Events | # Events | ||
## [http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Boston_Software_Freedom_Day Boston Software Freedom Day], Sat., Sept. 21st, 9:30am - 5:30pm | ## [http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Boston_Software_Freedom_Day Boston Software Freedom Day], Sat., Sept. 21st, 9:30am - 5:30pm | ||
## Cambridge Hearing on Surveillance Cameras, September 26th | ## Cambridge [http://www.cambridgeday.com/2013/09/09/public-security-camera-policy-gets-sept-26-hearing/ Hearing on Surveillance Cameras], September 26th | ||
## CryptoParty, Sat., Sept. 28th, | ## CryptoParty, Sat., Sept. 28th, [http://www.tech-center-enlightentcity.tv/ South end tech center]. Mesh networks and CJDNS. Jason to record. | ||
## General Meeting, Oct. 20 | ## General Meeting, Oct. 20, Medway, MA | ||
## Digital Media Conference, Cambridge, Oct. 25-27 | ## Digital Media Conference, Cambridge, Oct. 25-27 | ||
## [http://www.meetup.com/desktop-linux-users-group/ LibrePlanet Free Software Meeting], Weds Nov 6th, evening, Jamie speaking on the "Dangers of the Surveillance State | ## [http://www.meetup.com/desktop-linux-users-group/ LibrePlanet Free Software Meeting], Weds Nov 6th, evening, Jamie speaking on the "Dangers of the Surveillance State | ||
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## [http://www.meetup.com/desktop-linux-users-group/ LibrePlanet Free Software Meeting], Weds Dec 4th, evening, Steve speaking | ## [http://www.meetup.com/desktop-linux-users-group/ LibrePlanet Free Software Meeting], Weds Dec 4th, evening, Steve speaking | ||
# College Cryptoparties | # College Cryptoparties | ||
# | # [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkPs3eiAOk5mdFNGcE9ZOXpQNHJ4RVhrQzFtOWFzX1E&usp=sharing Budget] | ||
# Flyer printing run? | |||
# Campaign Task List: Tasks http://piratenpad.de/SKwdoMqk26 | # Campaign Task List: Tasks http://piratenpad.de/SKwdoMqk26 | ||
== Participants == | == Participants == | ||
* Igel (William Fleurant, Arlington MA) | |||
* srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA) | |||
* jokeefe (James O'Keefe, Somerville) | |||
* Kendra (Kendra Moyer, Arlington, MA) | |||
* Bluestreak (Lucia Fiero) | |||
* JCFiero (Jason Fiero) | |||
* GarretK | |||
* js0000 | |||
Observers: | |||
* ageis | * ageis | ||
* oneiros | * oneiros | ||
* Shidash | * Shidash | ||
* zby | * zby | ||
== Summary == | == Summary == | ||
* Steve speaking at software freedom day. Will bring tabling materials, and hand off to whoever is there. | |||
* CJDNS creator will attend cryptoparty. Jason and/or Lucia to record. | |||
* Jamie to check with printer, re: another flyer run | |||
* Digital media conference | |||
** Steve takes point on cryptoparty | |||
** what about What would it take for _you_ to dump your NSA-compliant service provider. Panel discussion? | |||
* Fundraising: Dress Like a Pirate Party on Halloween? | |||
* Phone banking on Oct 6th, 5-7pm? | |||
== Meeting Minutes == | == Meeting Minutes == | ||
<nowiki> | <nowiki> | ||
jokeefe: hi | |||
[8:49pm] jokeefe: Agenda at http://masspirates.org/wiki/September_19th,_2013_IRC_Meeting | |||
[8:50pm] jokeefe: Probably going to be late. srevilak, would you run the meeting until I get back? | |||
[8:51pm] srevilak: sure | |||
[8:52pm] jokeefe: thanks | |||
[9:00pm] srevilak: hi all, how goes it | |||
[9:00pm] Kendra joined the chat room. | |||
[9:01pm] srevilak: hello Kendra | |||
[9:01pm] Kendra: Hi. Kendra Mo yer, Arlington, MA | |||
[9:01pm] srevilak: Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA | |||
[9:02pm] Bluestreak joined the chat room. | |||
[9:02pm] srevilak: other introductions? | |||
[9:02pm] Bluestreak: Did I miss something? | |||
[9:02pm] srevilak: Bluestreak: you missed beginning of introductions | |||
[9:03pm] JCFiero joined the chat room. | |||
[9:03pm] Bluestreak: You mean ID time? | |||
[9:03pm] Igel: William Fleurant, Arlington MA | |||
[9:03pm] Bluestreak: Lucia Fiero | |||
[9:03pm] JCFiero: Jason Fiero | |||
[9:04pm] Igel: its /topic http://masspirates.org/wiki/September_19th,_2013_IRC_Meeting | |||
[9:04pm] srevilak: jokeefe will join us in a little while | |||
[9:04pm] Igel: whats good all. | |||
[9:05pm] srevilak: shall we start running down the agenda? | |||
[9:05pm] Bluestreak: Are you running the meeting, srevilak | |||
[9:05pm] Bluestreak: ? | |||
[9:05pm] srevilak: Jamie asked me to navigate until he returns | |||
[9:05pm] Bluestreak: Aye! | |||
[9:05pm] Bluestreak: Avast! | |||
[9:06pm] srevilak: But if you'd like to take the helm, I'm ok with that | |||
[9:06pm] Bluestreak: Oh NO! | |||
[9:06pm] srevilak: First = Software freedom day, this Saturday | |||
[9:06pm] Bluestreak: All you, Steve! | |||
[9:06pm] GarretK joined the chat room. | |||
[9:06pm] Bluestreak: Avast ye! | |||
[9:06pm] GarretK: activist time! | |||
[9:07pm] Bluestreak: Arr! | |||
[9:07pm] GarretK: ...matey! | |||
[9:07pm] srevilak: I'm speaking from 10 - 11, but leaving shortly afterwards | |||
[9:07pm] Bluestreak: I will be at SFD at noon | |||
[9:07pm] Bluestreak: I will miss you, sadly! | |||
[9:07pm] srevilak: I believe Jamie is coming at 4pm | |||
[9:07pm] js0000 joined the chat room. | |||
[9:07pm] Bluestreak: That's what he said! | |||
[9:07pm] srevilak: I have tabling material. Will anyone be there between 10 and 11? | |||
[9:08pm] Bluestreak: No tabling before noon, srevilak | |||
[9:08pm] Bluestreak: Oh | |||
[9:08pm] Bluestreak: I see what you mean! | |||
[9:08pm] srevilak: I'll need to hand off tabling materials | |||
[9:08pm] Kendra: I plan on going early. I was asked to help with the lightening rounds in the afternoon sessions. About 4pm I thnk. | |||
[9:09pm] Kendra: I can help with tabling | |||
[9:09pm] Bluestreak: Yay! | |||
[9:09pm] Bluestreak: How early is early, K? | |||
[9:09pm] srevilak: Kendra: if you're there early, I'll hand off materials to you | |||
[9:09pm] Igel: srevilak: yeah | |||
[9:09pm] Kendra: I want to see Steve speak, so i'll go as early as I can make myself go. | |||
[9:10pm] srevilak: Ok, sounds like someone will be there. | |||
[9:10pm] srevilak: It's just a box w/banner clipboards, signup sheets, flyers | |||
[9:10pm] JCFiero: cool | |||
[9:10pm] srevilak: Any other preparations to talk about? | |||
[9:11pm] srevilak: If no other preparations, we can move on | |||
[9:11pm] srevilak: http://masspirates.org/wiki/September_19th,_2013_IRC_Meeting#Participants | |||
[9:11pm] srevilak: Cambridge Hearing on Surveillance Cameras, September 26th | |||
[9:11pm] srevilak: anyone going? | |||
[9:12pm] srevilak: agenda doesn't have link to event information. Anyone have that? | |||
[9:13pm] Bluestreak: Wait Kendra, can you email us your number so we can text you on Saturday? | |||
[9:13pm] GarretK: first i've heard of it. can't find info online | |||
[9:13pm] Igel: heh | |||
[9:13pm] Kendra: http://www.cambridgeday.com/2013/09/09/public-security-camera-policy-gets-sept-26-hearing/ | |||
[9:14pm] Kendra: Yes, I can email you my number later | |||
[9:14pm] Igel: that defcon piece on the surveillance cameras with ezpass tracking tech onboard was creepy | |||
[9:14pm] Bluestreak: TYVM | |||
[9:14pm] Igel: (in nyc) | |||
[9:15pm] srevilak: Kendra: thx for link. | |||
[9:15pm] Igel: i guess the tech within the surveillance system wouldnt just be for video .. is what the point of it was... | |||
[9:15pm] srevilak: On quick read, my own concern is lack of stated data retention policy | |||
[9:15pm] Igel: these things fail conveinelty and are not open to the public | |||
[9:16pm] Igel: conveniently* | |||
[9:17pm] srevilak: I'd like to attend hearing. Not sure If I'll be able to swing it | |||
[9:17pm] srevilak: Will report back if I can go | |||
[9:18pm] srevilak: Any other points on the cambridge hearing? | |||
[9:19pm] GarretK: (sorry guys, i gotta bail.. the world never stops) | |||
[9:19pm] srevilak: ok, next item: CryptoParty, Sat., Sept. 28th | |||
[9:19pm] GarretK left the chat room. (Quit: Web client closed) | |||
[9:19pm] srevilak: Igel: you feeling ready? | |||
[9:19pm] Igel: special guest at the cryptoparty | |||
[9:20pm] Bluestreak: Well, the event Jason and I were going to was cancelled, so we are free all weekend. | |||
[9:20pm] Igel: we can get a nice camera for cjd to comment on cjdns srevilak | |||
[9:20pm] Igel: put it on yt.. etc. | |||
[9:20pm] srevilak: Anyone interesting in recording the cryptoparty? | |||
[9:21pm] srevilak: (YT video would be nice) | |||
[9:21pm] Bluestreak: Jason will | |||
[9:21pm] srevilak: awesome | |||
[9:21pm] Bluestreak: Can you hook up the audi, srevilak? | |||
[9:21pm] Bluestreak: audio | |||
[9:21pm] Bluestreak: Our PirateCon audio SUCKED | |||
[9:21pm] Igel: the creator of cjdns will be hanging out to answer questions and bootstrap your routers | |||
[9:22pm] Bluestreak: We will bring our gear but we will need some tech support. | |||
[9:22pm] Kendra: I could help with filming too if you need it. We could try to get a better mic set up. | |||
[9:22pm] srevilak: ok. Shall we plan to arrive at 13:30 for prep? | |||
[9:23pm] Bluestreak: Sure | |||
[9:23pm] Igel: yizzir | |||
[9:23pm] JCFiero: ok | |||
[9:23pm] Igel: http://www.nzz.ch/aktuell/digital/neustart-1.18140845 | |||
[9:23pm] Kendra: sounds good | |||
[9:23pm] Igel: he was in the 'new york times' of switzerland | |||
[9:24pm] Bluestreak: i need to brush up on my German | |||
[9:24pm] Igel: if we could get a flyer or 20.. heh.. | |||
[9:24pm] Igel: saying the creator of cjdns will be atttending.. that would be pretty krad | |||
[9:24pm] Bluestreak: Yes, about flyers... | |||
[9:25pm] Bluestreak: Jamie was not pleased at the price i paid for last minute flyers | |||
[9:25pm] Bluestreak: He has a printer he likes to use... shall we ask him to do a print run? | |||
[9:25pm] Igel: i dont know the procedure -- i guess? | |||
[9:25pm] srevilak: sure, making note to ask about flyers when Jamie joins | |||
[9:26pm] Igel: if you get 1 i think i have a xerox printcenter | |||
[9:26pm] Igel: free? | |||
[9:26pm] Igel: ok | |||
[9:27pm] srevilak: Any else re 9/28 cryptoparty? | |||
[9:27pm] Igel: i thik the project meshnet gui i have been working on may be demo-able. | |||
[9:27pm] Bluestreak: Hope it's soon. We end at 10! | |||
[9:27pm] Bluestreak: I have been promoting it. | |||
[9:27pm] srevilak: thx, Bluestreak | |||
[9:27pm] Igel: wicked | |||
[9:27pm] srevilak: next item: General Meeting, Oct. 20 | |||
[9:28pm] srevilak: in Medway? | |||
[9:28pm] Bluestreak: Yes | |||
[9:28pm] Bluestreak: We wanted to wait until you were available srevilak | |||
[9:28pm] Bluestreak: So it will be 7 weeks between meetings... | |||
[9:28pm] srevilak: well, sorry about that | |||
[9:29pm] JCFiero: we can also pick people up at the MBTA station in Franklin if we start getting people who want to come from the City who don't have wheels | |||
[9:29pm] srevilak: JCFiero: that's good to know | |||
[9:29pm] srevilak: how far is train station? | |||
[9:29pm] Bluestreak: Franklin ctr is about 20 min | |||
[9:30pm] srevilak: ok | |||
[9:30pm] Bluestreak: OK not the best place to meet | |||
[9:30pm] Bluestreak: What choice do we have? | |||
[9:30pm] jokeefe: James O'Keefe, Somerville | |||
[9:30pm] srevilak: IMHO, nothing wrong with medway | |||
[9:30pm] Bluestreak: Hello sir | |||
[9:31pm] Bluestreak: We need flyers you expressed a preference of printers | |||
[9:31pm] srevilak: jokeefe: just discussing Oct 20th general mtng | |||
[9:31pm] Bluestreak: Print run? | |||
[9:31pm] srevilak: Bluestreak: it's later in the agenda | |||
[9:31pm] srevilak: Shall we move on to Digital Media Conference? | |||
[9:32pm] Bluestreak: We were just talking about it! | |||
[9:32pm] Bluestreak: We need them for Sat! | |||
[9:32pm] srevilak: ok, Bluestreak, can you reiterate for jokeefe? | |||
[9:33pm] Bluestreak: Jamie was not pleased at the price i paid for last minute flyers [21:25] <Bluestreak> He has a printer he likes to use... shall we ask him to do a print run? | |||
[9:33pm] jokeefe: srevilak, how much cash is on hand? | |||
[9:34pm] srevilak: Final balance on checking stmt: 262 + 100 deposit | |||
[9:34pm] Bluestreak: Can you even get them done in time, jokeefe? | |||
[9:34pm] Bluestreak: I have 50 left | |||
[9:34pm] Bluestreak: ish | |||
[9:34pm] jokeefe: for this Sat. no. The 28th, yes | |||
[9:34pm] Bluestreak: Oh well | |||
[9:34pm] Kendra: Probably chepest to print a smaller amount on a home printer. | |||
[9:34pm] Bluestreak: Feel free! | |||
[9:34pm] Bluestreak: sorry | |||
[9:34pm] jokeefe: can ask. | |||
[9:34pm] jokeefe: in morning | |||
[9:35pm] Bluestreak: TY | |||
[9:35pm] jokeefe: might do 500 early | |||
[9:35pm] Bluestreak: Get them to Steve or Kendra | |||
[9:35pm] Bluestreak: They will be there b4 us | |||
[9:36pm] srevilak: we have 1--2 stacks of trifolds left over from freedom rally | |||
[9:36pm] srevilak: Moving on to Digital Media Conference? | |||
[9:36pm] Bluestreak: Oh. NEVER MIND | |||
[9:36pm] jokeefe: srevilak, probably doesn't include the $165.31 for the t-shirts | |||
[9:37pm] jokeefe: Spreadsheet give Current Balance $227.51 | |||
[9:37pm] srevilak: jokeefe: correct 165 not on statement | |||
[9:37pm] jokeefe: If I put in $100, that gets us to $327.51 | |||
[9:38pm] Bluestreak: If you're not near your limit, then great | |||
[9:39pm] jokeefe: -$160 leaves us with $167, which leaves us $7 after next month of tallyfox | |||
[9:39pm] Bluestreak: Ugh | |||
[9:39pm] Bluestreak: IMO we can manage without TallyFox | |||
[9:39pm] jokeefe: since it isn't up yet. | |||
[9:40pm] jokeefe: ok with the print run, but want us to know where we are. | |||
[9:40pm] Bluestreak: I wanted to bring Gregg in but not at this cost | |||
[9:40pm] jokeefe: will talk with printer tomorrow. | |||
[9:40pm] Bluestreak: TYVM, sir | |||
[9:40pm] jokeefe: So, DMC? | |||
[9:41pm] Bluestreak: Yes, very excited | |||
[9:41pm] Bluestreak: We hope to recruit alt media ppl | |||
[9:41pm] JCFiero: we would like to recruit people for a media/pirate news program | |||
[9:41pm] jokeefe: and they us | |||
[9:42pm] Bluestreak: Our first interview (we hope) will be Dan Kennedy | |||
[9:42pm] jokeefe: so two firm ideas are crypto party and What would it take for _you_ to dump your NSA-compliant service provider? | |||
[9:42pm] Bluestreak: \The guy we missed tonight because of Jason working late | |||
[9:42pm] Bluestreak: Yes. | |||
[9:42pm] Bluestreak: Focus on the Greek solution | |||
[9:42pm] Bluestreak: if they can do it because they are broke... | |||
[9:42pm] Kendra: I went to the book signing and met Dan Kennedy tonight | |||
[9:42pm] Bluestreak: we can do it because out system is broken | |||
[9:42pm] JCFiero: awesome | |||
[9:42pm] JCFiero: thanks Kendra | |||
[9:43pm] Bluestreak: OH! | |||
[9:43pm] Bluestreak: We missed you! | |||
[9:43pm] Bluestreak: </3 | |||
[9:43pm] Bluestreak: Sorry! | |||
[9:43pm] jokeefe: thanks, Kendra | |||
[9:43pm] Bluestreak: How was it? | |||
[9:43pm] Bluestreak: Give out your cards? | |||
[9:43pm] Bluestreak: So glad we can cover for each other like we do | |||
[9:43pm] Bluestreak: Thank you so much K | |||
[9:44pm] Igel: if i get any additional graphics/flyers can i email them to you | |||
[9:44pm] Kendra: It was pretty good, a lot of journalists and a few people I saw at the Berkman media center last week. I gave him my pirate party card adn got his card. | |||
[9:44pm] Bluestreak: I am going to make a slap togethe... | |||
[9:44pm] Bluestreak: Good, K | |||
[9:44pm] jokeefe: glad it went well | |||
[9:44pm] Bluestreak: I am going to make some half assed flyers for Dance Friday and Harvard Sq | |||
[9:45pm] Bluestreak: For the 28th | |||
[9:45pm] Igel: whats the 2nd idea jokeefe | |||
[9:45pm] Bluestreak: Will do that tomorrow. Going out tomorrow | |||
[9:45pm] Igel: oh nvm misread | |||
[9:45pm] jokeefe: DMC - what about What would it take for _you_ to dump your NSA-compliant service provider? as the general overview and the crypto party as more hands on? | |||
[9:45pm] Bluestreak: will put my crappy fliers out | |||
[9:45pm] Bluestreak: MESHNET! | |||
[9:45pm] Bluestreak: That's what it would take | |||
[9:46pm] srevilak: jokeefe: are we doing one or both (for DMC) | |||
[9:46pm] jokeefe: they seem interested in two | |||
[9:46pm] srevilak: that's what I thought | |||
[9:46pm] jokeefe: could use fliers for 9/28 cryptoparty, Bluestreak | |||
[9:46pm] jokeefe: sorry, need fliers not could use | |||
[9:46pm] Bluestreak: Yes, they wont be great | |||
[9:47pm] srevilak: I'll volunteer to put together DMC cryptoparty | |||
[9:47pm] Bluestreak: But I will do *something* since Blue and Dana are not available | |||
[9:47pm] Bluestreak: TY srevilak | |||
[9:47pm] jokeefe: thanks. just the facts is fine | |||
[9:47pm] jokeefe: thank you. srevilak | |||
[9:47pm] Bluestreak: Just the facts, Ma'am | |||
[9:48pm] jokeefe: Suggestions for people to be on a What would it take for _you_ to dump your NSA-compliant service provider? panel? | |||
[9:48pm] srevilak: Panel discussion seems reasonable | |||
[9:49pm] srevilak: might be interesting to have different viewpoints. | |||
[9:49pm] srevilak: Pros/cons of stay vs switch | |||
[9:49pm] srevilak: different levels of risk tolerance, etc | |||
[9:49pm] Bluestreak: I hate to say it but most ppl dont care | |||
[9:50pm] Bluestreak: Alex and Joan and I found most ppl at the Copley steps did not care that they were being watched | |||
[9:50pm] Bluestreak: Vast Majority | |||
[9:50pm] Igel: its a tough question to answer on the street | |||
[9:51pm] srevilak: Also, should we be doing more to educate people? | |||
[9:51pm] Igel: if you pose the question in a way that -all- the people were watched vs. just you.. it gets interesting | |||
[9:51pm] jokeefe: yes, srevilak | |||
[9:51pm] Bluestreak: Actaully two women *were* discussing it on the st | |||
[9:51pm] Igel: because most people do good. | |||
[9:51pm] srevilak: Question is -- why do some brush it off, vs care very deeply | |||
[9:51pm] Bluestreak: What is that supposed to mena "doo godd"? | |||
[9:51pm] Bluestreak: oops | |||
[9:51pm] Bluestreak: lol | |||
[9:52pm] Bluestreak: do good | |||
[9:52pm] Igel: if dick cheney was in office... the answer could be very different | |||
[9:52pm] Bluestreak: Its a perception thing | |||
[9:52pm] jokeefe: what I get from people is "there is no privacy, why bother" | |||
[9:52pm] jokeefe: some people | |||
[9:52pm] Kendra: A lot of people want to be on tv. They think their lives are a show worth watching. | |||
[9:52pm] JCFiero: aye | |||
[9:52pm] Bluestreak: LOL! | |||
[9:52pm] jokeefe: lol | |||
[9:52pm] Igel: heh... | |||
[9:52pm] Bluestreak: LMAO | |||
[9:52pm] Bluestreak: No but seriously | |||
[9:53pm] srevilak: The flip side -- are you comfortable helping the surveillance system? | |||
[9:53pm] Bluestreak: Most ppl are not saying anything controversial | |||
[9:53pm] Bluestreak: We are concerned becasue *we are* | |||
[9:53pm] Bluestreak: As activists our private lives may be targeted | |||
[9:53pm] Bluestreak: average Joe had no such concern | |||
[9:54pm] srevilak: To make panel interesting, could have a devils advocate: | |||
[9:54pm] jokeefe: well if folks want to be on the panel or have suggestions for people to ask, email me. | |||
[9:54pm] Bluestreak: Now if their *neighbor* or their rival at work could read their email... | |||
[9:54pm] srevilak: I'm happy with my NSA-compliant service provider | |||
[9:54pm] Bluestreak: Me too | |||
[9:54pm] jokeefe: the rest of the events can wait. | |||
[9:54pm] jokeefe: 2. College Cryptoparties | |||
[9:55pm] Bluestreak: I need to make calls | |||
[9:55pm] jokeefe: black_van is contacting folks who offered to be college coordinators about getting space for cryptoparties | |||
[9:55pm] srevilak: Bluestreak: "I'm happy with my NSA-compliant service provider" is devils advocate position. In reality, I'm not happy with them. or, I don't use ones that are NSA-friendly | |||
[9:55pm] jokeefe: aye! | |||
[9:55pm] Bluestreak: Well, honestly, I am not worried | |||
[9:56pm] jokeefe: will hopefully know more in a week. | |||
[9:56pm] Bluestreak: My life is an open book, and if they want dirt on me, they will find a way to get it | |||
[9:56pm] Bluestreak: NSA or no | |||
[9:56pm] Igel: well | |||
[9:56pm] Bluestreak: OK so, Jason WAS going to be home for 2 weeks | |||
[9:56pm] Igel: i dont like lists | |||
[9:57pm] Bluestreak: but that changed to one week | |||
[9:57pm] Igel: and big databases , and big algorithms | |||
[9:57pm] Bluestreak: So I never got to calling | |||
[9:57pm] Bluestreak: which would help jump start the college plan | |||
[9:57pm] Kendra: A lot of people seems willing to compromise their privacy for netflix. i don't know. | |||
[9:57pm] Igel: i think they wind up putting 8 year olds on terrorist lists, etc.. | |||
[9:57pm] jokeefe: hold the thought on calling, Bluestreak | |||
[9:57pm] Bluestreak: Oh | |||
[9:57pm] Bluestreak: OK | |||
[9:57pm] jokeefe: 3. Budget - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkPs3eiAOk5mdFNGcE9ZOXpQNHJ4RVhrQzFtOWFzX1E#gid=4 | |||
[9:57pm] JCFiero: we are not saying anything controversial.. the govt. is over-reaching and spying.. they are violating the law and/or the spirit of the law as it applies to our rights...we should be bale to find pleant of Student area groups that araedy exist that our issues will resonate with | |||
[9:58pm] Bluestreak: Budget time | |||
[9:58pm] jokeefe: The budget I worked out for the rest of the year is $1200. Anything I missed? | |||
[9:58pm] Bluestreak: I object strongly to Tally Fox | |||
[9:58pm] Bluestreak: What do we really need it for? | |||
[9:59pm] jokeefe: Increasing communication among pirates | |||
[9:59pm] jokeefe: once it is ready | |||
[9:59pm] Bluestreak: Costs a fortune in the meantime | |||
[9:59pm] jokeefe: gotta think big | |||
[9:59pm] Bluestreak: bitch please! | |||
[10:00pm] Bluestreak: LOL | |||
[10:00pm] jokeefe: So, ideally, we should try to raise about $2000 to have a cushion for next year | |||
[10:00pm] Bluestreak: Feel free! | |||
[10:00pm] JCFiero: shhhh some fisrt officer you are... Bluestreak | |||
[10:00pm] Bluestreak: LOL | |||
[10:00pm] Bluestreak: I am am not busting my butt to raise that money. Sry | |||
[10:01pm] Bluestreak: First we have to GET BIG | |||
[10:01pm] Bluestreak: Then we can think big | |||
[10:01pm] Igel: if we can measure big, we can mananage big | |||
[10:01pm] Kendra: We should have a halloween pirate party fundraiser and charge 10 bucks. | |||
[10:01pm] Bluestreak: I want to focus on recruiting | |||
[10:01pm] Bluestreak: Genius | |||
[10:01pm] JCFiero: we shall see.. U should give it some tie | |||
[10:01pm] JCFiero: +m | |||
[10:01pm] srevilak: dress like a pirate party? | |||
[10:02pm] Bluestreak: There you go | |||
[10:02pm] jokeefe: lol | |||
[10:02pm] Bluestreak: Where? | |||
[10:02pm] Kendra: It's the one time we have an excuse. | |||
[10:02pm] jokeefe: agreed | |||
[10:02pm] js0000 left the chat room. | |||
[10:02pm] JCFiero: parties would rock for sure - we have a venue in Franklin that can handle ~120 ppl | |||
[10:02pm] Bluestreak: ONE time? who have you been hanging out with? | |||
[10:02pm] Bluestreak: Ppl cant GET to Franklin | |||
[10:03pm] Bluestreak: Most of our base is in Boston. | |||
[10:03pm] Bluestreak: Sprouts? | |||
[10:03pm] Kendra: I could check into the space at Industry Labs in Inman Sq. | |||
[10:03pm] Bluestreak: OK | |||
[10:03pm] jokeefe: please do, Kendra. | |||
[10:03pm] JCFiero: ok thx | |||
[10:03pm] Igel: whoa | |||
[10:03pm] Bluestreak: Way to be positive and proactive K | |||
[10:04pm] Igel: mm. | |||
[10:04pm] jokeefe: My suggestion would be to line up a place for a fundraiser, and call people up tell supporters what we are doing, invite them to it and ask them to chip in if they cannot make it. | |||
[10:05pm] Bluestreak: change the script. Yes. | |||
[10:05pm] jokeefe: operative question is who can help make calls? | |||
[10:05pm] Bluestreak: Joe volunteered | |||
[10:05pm] srevilak: I can help | |||
[10:05pm] Bluestreak: Jason did too but work schedule changed | |||
[10:05pm] Bluestreak: Yay | |||
[10:05pm] JCFiero: I like that ... we can all make some calls.. I think many hands light work... | |||
[10:05pm] srevilak: Perhaps we do a phone bank meeting? | |||
[10:05pm] jokeefe: sounds good! | |||
[10:06pm] Bluestreak: Um... meaning srevilak? | |||
[10:06pm] srevilak: All get together, spend 1--2 hours making calls? | |||
[10:06pm] jokeefe: cell phone bank | |||
[10:06pm] srevilak: jokeefe: exactly | |||
[10:06pm] Bluestreak: Where? | |||
[10:06pm] Bluestreak: IRC? | |||
[10:06pm] jokeefe: & when | |||
[10:06pm] jokeefe: no nice to get together in person | |||
[10:06pm] Bluestreak: Always! | |||
[10:06pm] srevilak: also nice to practice on each other firs | |||
[10:06pm] jokeefe: 10/20th? | |||
[10:06pm] srevilak: first | |||
[10:07pm] Bluestreak: That's out meetong | |||
[10:07pm] Bluestreak: meeting | |||
[10:07pm] Bluestreak: our | |||
[10:07pm] Bluestreak: gah | |||
[10:07pm] Bluestreak: after the meetiong? | |||
[10:07pm] srevilak: I'm in favor of doing an hour on 10/20 | |||
[10:07pm] Igel: dunno | |||
[10:07pm] Bluestreak: I am too, srevilak | |||
[10:08pm] JCFiero: It would be good to make some calls sooner if possible.. | |||
[10:08pm] Bluestreak: ? | |||
[10:08pm] Bluestreak: What about the 6th? | |||
[10:08pm] JCFiero: but certainly 30min-1hr of calls before and after the 10/20 meeting | |||
[10:08pm] Bluestreak: Since we are not meeting then | |||
[10:08pm] jokeefe: 10/6 is fine with me. | |||
[10:08pm] Bluestreak: Where? | |||
[10:08pm] Bluestreak: Here? | |||
[10:09pm] Bluestreak: Somerville? | |||
[10:09pm] jokeefe: if we want more people to make it then Boston area is good | |||
[10:09pm] Bluestreak: Agreed | |||
[10:09pm] Bluestreak: So...? | |||
[10:09pm] jokeefe: I am fine with Somerville | |||
[10:10pm] Bluestreak: as in 25 Moore? | |||
[10:10pm] jokeefe: unless there is someone else who can host it. Could just ask | |||
[10:10pm] jokeefe: who can make 10/6? | |||
[10:10pm] jokeefe: me | |||
[10:10pm] Bluestreak: OK, well you can be the fall back position then | |||
[10:10pm] Bluestreak: We can. | |||
[10:11pm] Igel: aye | |||
[10:11pm] srevilak: I'll be out of town on the 6th | |||
[10:11pm] Bluestreak: We will bring Joe | |||
[10:11pm] Bluestreak: IK | |||
[10:11pm] Bluestreak: We will manage | |||
[10:11pm] Bluestreak: Rather not meet without you though | |||
[10:11pm] Kendra: BTW Versus News is having a Launch party this saturday night 9/21 at 6-10 pm at Industry labs 288 Norfolk St., 4th Floor, Cambridge MA | |||
[10:11pm] Bluestreak: so ty anyway for offering to call | |||
[10:12pm] Bluestreak: IDK if I will have any energy left! | |||
[10:12pm] Bluestreak: PLUS | |||
[10:12pm] Bluestreak: After SFD is dinner for interested peeps | |||
[10:12pm] jokeefe: thanks, Kendra. | |||
[10:12pm] Bluestreak: But yes... | |||
[10:12pm] Bluestreak: I would like to go to both | |||
[10:12pm] jokeefe: So 10/6 calls, at a place to be decided. later afternoon? 4-6pm? | |||
[10:13pm] Bluestreak: I just need some adderall to keep me going all day... | |||
[10:13pm] jokeefe: sleep ... | |||
[10:13pm] Bluestreak: yes because pplp are OUT on sundays | |||
[10:13pm] Bluestreak: then home in the eveings | |||
[10:13pm] jokeefe: 5-7pm? | |||
[10:13pm] Kendra: I might be at the May First meet up in Brooklyn Oct 5-6 | |||
[10:13pm] jokeefe: cell phone pirate pizza party! | |||
[10:13pm] Bluestreak: Jamie, Jason, Me, Joe | |||
[10:14pm] jokeefe: lgel | |||
[10:14pm] Bluestreak: I will invite Joan | |||
[10:14pm] Bluestreak: OK that is plenty | |||
[10:14pm] jokeefe: yay! | |||
[10:14pm] Bluestreak: We need the Halloween party plans in place by then | |||
[10:14pm] jokeefe: aye! | |||
[10:14pm] Bluestreak: yay Jamie is excited! | |||
[10:14pm] Bluestreak: Hee hee | |||
[10:15pm] jokeefe: we are over time. folks want to call it a night? | |||
[10:15pm] JCFiero: I have to go help kids.. ttfn yar! | |||
[10:15pm] Bluestreak: Yes. | |||
[10:15pm] jokeefe: good night JCFiero | |||
[10:15pm] Bluestreak: He's gone already | |||
[10:15pm] Bluestreak: LOL | |||
[10:15pm] jokeefe: aye | |||
[10:15pm] Bluestreak: motion to adjourn | |||
[10:16pm] Bluestreak: Avast ye scurvy dogs! | |||
[10:16pm] jokeefe: 2nd | |||
[10:16pm] srevilak: I'll second Bluestreak's motion | |||
[10:16pm] Igel: aye | |||
[10:16pm] jokeefe: pirate or horse noises? | |||
[10:16pm] Bluestreak: Time to set sail for slumberland | |||
[10:16pm] Bluestreak: yar | |||
[10:16pm] Kendra: Halloween is on a thursday, i will look at dates around there, 2nd to adjourn | |||
[10:17pm] Bluestreak: pirate... tlapd | |||
[10:17pm] Igel: yaaar | |||
[10:17pm] jokeefe: thanks | |||
[10:17pm] Bluestreak: thanks, K | |||
[10:17pm] Bluestreak: Vote? | |||
[10:17pm] Bluestreak: Goodnight | |||
[10:17pm] jokeefe: motion passes. | |||
[10:17pm] Bluestreak: Sleep tight | |||
[10:17pm] Igel: aye capt | |||
[10:17pm] Bluestreak: pleasant dreams... | |||
[10:17pm] jokeefe: good night folks, thanks | |||
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Latest revision as of 22:30, 1 February 2018
Agenda
- Events
- Boston Software Freedom Day, Sat., Sept. 21st, 9:30am - 5:30pm
- Cambridge Hearing on Surveillance Cameras, September 26th
- CryptoParty, Sat., Sept. 28th, South end tech center. Mesh networks and CJDNS. Jason to record.
- General Meeting, Oct. 20, Medway, MA
- Digital Media Conference, Cambridge, Oct. 25-27
- LibrePlanet Free Software Meeting, Weds Nov 6th, evening, Jamie speaking on the "Dangers of the Surveillance State
- Scorpion Bowl, Positronic Design, 903 Dwight St, Holyoke MA. Nov 9th
- LibrePlanet Free Software Meeting, Weds Dec 4th, evening, Steve speaking
- College Cryptoparties
- Budget
- Flyer printing run?
- Campaign Task List: Tasks http://piratenpad.de/SKwdoMqk26
Participants
- Igel (William Fleurant, Arlington MA)
- srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA)
- jokeefe (James O'Keefe, Somerville)
- Kendra (Kendra Moyer, Arlington, MA)
- Bluestreak (Lucia Fiero)
- JCFiero (Jason Fiero)
- GarretK
- js0000
Observers:
- ageis
- oneiros
- Shidash
- zby
Summary
- Steve speaking at software freedom day. Will bring tabling materials, and hand off to whoever is there.
- CJDNS creator will attend cryptoparty. Jason and/or Lucia to record.
- Jamie to check with printer, re: another flyer run
- Digital media conference
- Steve takes point on cryptoparty
- what about What would it take for _you_ to dump your NSA-compliant service provider. Panel discussion?
- Fundraising: Dress Like a Pirate Party on Halloween?
- Phone banking on Oct 6th, 5-7pm?
Meeting Minutes
jokeefe: hi [8:49pm] jokeefe: Agenda at http://masspirates.org/wiki/September_19th,_2013_IRC_Meeting [8:50pm] jokeefe: Probably going to be late. srevilak, would you run the meeting until I get back? [8:51pm] srevilak: sure [8:52pm] jokeefe: thanks [9:00pm] srevilak: hi all, how goes it [9:00pm] Kendra joined the chat room. [9:01pm] srevilak: hello Kendra [9:01pm] Kendra: Hi. Kendra Mo yer, Arlington, MA [9:01pm] srevilak: Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA [9:02pm] Bluestreak joined the chat room. [9:02pm] srevilak: other introductions? [9:02pm] Bluestreak: Did I miss something? [9:02pm] srevilak: Bluestreak: you missed beginning of introductions [9:03pm] JCFiero joined the chat room. [9:03pm] Bluestreak: You mean ID time? [9:03pm] Igel: William Fleurant, Arlington MA [9:03pm] Bluestreak: Lucia Fiero [9:03pm] JCFiero: Jason Fiero [9:04pm] Igel: its /topic http://masspirates.org/wiki/September_19th,_2013_IRC_Meeting [9:04pm] srevilak: jokeefe will join us in a little while [9:04pm] Igel: whats good all. [9:05pm] srevilak: shall we start running down the agenda? [9:05pm] Bluestreak: Are you running the meeting, srevilak [9:05pm] Bluestreak: ? [9:05pm] srevilak: Jamie asked me to navigate until he returns [9:05pm] Bluestreak: Aye! [9:05pm] Bluestreak: Avast! [9:06pm] srevilak: But if you'd like to take the helm, I'm ok with that [9:06pm] Bluestreak: Oh NO! [9:06pm] srevilak: First = Software freedom day, this Saturday [9:06pm] Bluestreak: All you, Steve! [9:06pm] GarretK joined the chat room. [9:06pm] Bluestreak: Avast ye! [9:06pm] GarretK: activist time! [9:07pm] Bluestreak: Arr! [9:07pm] GarretK: ...matey! [9:07pm] srevilak: I'm speaking from 10 - 11, but leaving shortly afterwards [9:07pm] Bluestreak: I will be at SFD at noon [9:07pm] Bluestreak: I will miss you, sadly! [9:07pm] srevilak: I believe Jamie is coming at 4pm [9:07pm] js0000 joined the chat room. [9:07pm] Bluestreak: That's what he said! [9:07pm] srevilak: I have tabling material. Will anyone be there between 10 and 11? [9:08pm] Bluestreak: No tabling before noon, srevilak [9:08pm] Bluestreak: Oh [9:08pm] Bluestreak: I see what you mean! [9:08pm] srevilak: I'll need to hand off tabling materials [9:08pm] Kendra: I plan on going early. I was asked to help with the lightening rounds in the afternoon sessions. About 4pm I thnk. [9:09pm] Kendra: I can help with tabling [9:09pm] Bluestreak: Yay! [9:09pm] Bluestreak: How early is early, K? [9:09pm] srevilak: Kendra: if you're there early, I'll hand off materials to you [9:09pm] Igel: srevilak: yeah [9:09pm] Kendra: I want to see Steve speak, so i'll go as early as I can make myself go. [9:10pm] srevilak: Ok, sounds like someone will be there. [9:10pm] srevilak: It's just a box w/banner clipboards, signup sheets, flyers [9:10pm] JCFiero: cool [9:10pm] srevilak: Any other preparations to talk about? [9:11pm] srevilak: If no other preparations, we can move on [9:11pm] srevilak: http://masspirates.org/wiki/September_19th,_2013_IRC_Meeting#Participants [9:11pm] srevilak: Cambridge Hearing on Surveillance Cameras, September 26th [9:11pm] srevilak: anyone going? [9:12pm] srevilak: agenda doesn't have link to event information. Anyone have that? [9:13pm] Bluestreak: Wait Kendra, can you email us your number so we can text you on Saturday? [9:13pm] GarretK: first i've heard of it. can't find info online [9:13pm] Igel: heh [9:13pm] Kendra: http://www.cambridgeday.com/2013/09/09/public-security-camera-policy-gets-sept-26-hearing/ [9:14pm] Kendra: Yes, I can email you my number later [9:14pm] Igel: that defcon piece on the surveillance cameras with ezpass tracking tech onboard was creepy [9:14pm] Bluestreak: TYVM [9:14pm] Igel: (in nyc) [9:15pm] srevilak: Kendra: thx for link. [9:15pm] Igel: i guess the tech within the surveillance system wouldnt just be for video .. is what the point of it was... [9:15pm] srevilak: On quick read, my own concern is lack of stated data retention policy [9:15pm] Igel: these things fail conveinelty and are not open to the public [9:16pm] Igel: conveniently* [9:17pm] srevilak: I'd like to attend hearing. Not sure If I'll be able to swing it [9:17pm] srevilak: Will report back if I can go [9:18pm] srevilak: Any other points on the cambridge hearing? [9:19pm] GarretK: (sorry guys, i gotta bail.. the world never stops) [9:19pm] srevilak: ok, next item: CryptoParty, Sat., Sept. 28th [9:19pm] GarretK left the chat room. (Quit: Web client closed) [9:19pm] srevilak: Igel: you feeling ready? [9:19pm] Igel: special guest at the cryptoparty [9:20pm] Bluestreak: Well, the event Jason and I were going to was cancelled, so we are free all weekend. [9:20pm] Igel: we can get a nice camera for cjd to comment on cjdns srevilak [9:20pm] Igel: put it on yt.. etc. [9:20pm] srevilak: Anyone interesting in recording the cryptoparty? [9:21pm] srevilak: (YT video would be nice) [9:21pm] Bluestreak: Jason will [9:21pm] srevilak: awesome [9:21pm] Bluestreak: Can you hook up the audi, srevilak? [9:21pm] Bluestreak: audio [9:21pm] Bluestreak: Our PirateCon audio SUCKED [9:21pm] Igel: the creator of cjdns will be hanging out to answer questions and bootstrap your routers [9:22pm] Bluestreak: We will bring our gear but we will need some tech support. [9:22pm] Kendra: I could help with filming too if you need it. We could try to get a better mic set up. [9:22pm] srevilak: ok. Shall we plan to arrive at 13:30 for prep? [9:23pm] Bluestreak: Sure [9:23pm] Igel: yizzir [9:23pm] JCFiero: ok [9:23pm] Igel: http://www.nzz.ch/aktuell/digital/neustart-1.18140845 [9:23pm] Kendra: sounds good [9:23pm] Igel: he was in the 'new york times' of switzerland [9:24pm] Bluestreak: i need to brush up on my German [9:24pm] Igel: if we could get a flyer or 20.. heh.. [9:24pm] Igel: saying the creator of cjdns will be atttending.. that would be pretty krad [9:24pm] Bluestreak: Yes, about flyers... [9:25pm] Bluestreak: Jamie was not pleased at the price i paid for last minute flyers [9:25pm] Bluestreak: He has a printer he likes to use... shall we ask him to do a print run? [9:25pm] Igel: i dont know the procedure -- i guess? [9:25pm] srevilak: sure, making note to ask about flyers when Jamie joins [9:26pm] Igel: if you get 1 i think i have a xerox printcenter [9:26pm] Igel: free? [9:26pm] Igel: ok [9:27pm] srevilak: Any else re 9/28 cryptoparty? [9:27pm] Igel: i thik the project meshnet gui i have been working on may be demo-able. [9:27pm] Bluestreak: Hope it's soon. We end at 10! [9:27pm] Bluestreak: I have been promoting it. [9:27pm] srevilak: thx, Bluestreak [9:27pm] Igel: wicked [9:27pm] srevilak: next item: General Meeting, Oct. 20 [9:28pm] srevilak: in Medway? [9:28pm] Bluestreak: Yes [9:28pm] Bluestreak: We wanted to wait until you were available srevilak [9:28pm] Bluestreak: So it will be 7 weeks between meetings... [9:28pm] srevilak: well, sorry about that [9:29pm] JCFiero: we can also pick people up at the MBTA station in Franklin if we start getting people who want to come from the City who don't have wheels [9:29pm] srevilak: JCFiero: that's good to know [9:29pm] srevilak: how far is train station? [9:29pm] Bluestreak: Franklin ctr is about 20 min [9:30pm] srevilak: ok [9:30pm] Bluestreak: OK not the best place to meet [9:30pm] Bluestreak: What choice do we have? [9:30pm] jokeefe: James O'Keefe, Somerville [9:30pm] srevilak: IMHO, nothing wrong with medway [9:30pm] Bluestreak: Hello sir [9:31pm] Bluestreak: We need flyers you expressed a preference of printers [9:31pm] srevilak: jokeefe: just discussing Oct 20th general mtng [9:31pm] Bluestreak: Print run? [9:31pm] srevilak: Bluestreak: it's later in the agenda [9:31pm] srevilak: Shall we move on to Digital Media Conference? [9:32pm] Bluestreak: We were just talking about it! [9:32pm] Bluestreak: We need them for Sat! [9:32pm] srevilak: ok, Bluestreak, can you reiterate for jokeefe? [9:33pm] Bluestreak: Jamie was not pleased at the price i paid for last minute flyers [21:25] <Bluestreak> He has a printer he likes to use... shall we ask him to do a print run? [9:33pm] jokeefe: srevilak, how much cash is on hand? [9:34pm] srevilak: Final balance on checking stmt: 262 + 100 deposit [9:34pm] Bluestreak: Can you even get them done in time, jokeefe? [9:34pm] Bluestreak: I have 50 left [9:34pm] Bluestreak: ish [9:34pm] jokeefe: for this Sat. no. The 28th, yes [9:34pm] Bluestreak: Oh well [9:34pm] Kendra: Probably chepest to print a smaller amount on a home printer. [9:34pm] Bluestreak: Feel free! [9:34pm] Bluestreak: sorry [9:34pm] jokeefe: can ask. [9:34pm] jokeefe: in morning [9:35pm] Bluestreak: TY [9:35pm] jokeefe: might do 500 early [9:35pm] Bluestreak: Get them to Steve or Kendra [9:35pm] Bluestreak: They will be there b4 us [9:36pm] srevilak: we have 1--2 stacks of trifolds left over from freedom rally [9:36pm] srevilak: Moving on to Digital Media Conference? [9:36pm] Bluestreak: Oh. NEVER MIND [9:36pm] jokeefe: srevilak, probably doesn't include the $165.31 for the t-shirts [9:37pm] jokeefe: Spreadsheet give Current Balance $227.51 [9:37pm] srevilak: jokeefe: correct 165 not on statement [9:37pm] jokeefe: If I put in $100, that gets us to $327.51 [9:38pm] Bluestreak: If you're not near your limit, then great [9:39pm] jokeefe: -$160 leaves us with $167, which leaves us $7 after next month of tallyfox [9:39pm] Bluestreak: Ugh [9:39pm] Bluestreak: IMO we can manage without TallyFox [9:39pm] jokeefe: since it isn't up yet. [9:40pm] jokeefe: ok with the print run, but want us to know where we are. [9:40pm] Bluestreak: I wanted to bring Gregg in but not at this cost [9:40pm] jokeefe: will talk with printer tomorrow. [9:40pm] Bluestreak: TYVM, sir [9:40pm] jokeefe: So, DMC? [9:41pm] Bluestreak: Yes, very excited [9:41pm] Bluestreak: We hope to recruit alt media ppl [9:41pm] JCFiero: we would like to recruit people for a media/pirate news program [9:41pm] jokeefe: and they us [9:42pm] Bluestreak: Our first interview (we hope) will be Dan Kennedy [9:42pm] jokeefe: so two firm ideas are crypto party and What would it take for _you_ to dump your NSA-compliant service provider? [9:42pm] Bluestreak: \The guy we missed tonight because of Jason working late [9:42pm] Bluestreak: Yes. [9:42pm] Bluestreak: Focus on the Greek solution [9:42pm] Bluestreak: if they can do it because they are broke... [9:42pm] Kendra: I went to the book signing and met Dan Kennedy tonight [9:42pm] Bluestreak: we can do it because out system is broken [9:42pm] JCFiero: awesome [9:42pm] JCFiero: thanks Kendra [9:43pm] Bluestreak: OH! [9:43pm] Bluestreak: We missed you! [9:43pm] Bluestreak: </3 [9:43pm] Bluestreak: Sorry! [9:43pm] jokeefe: thanks, Kendra [9:43pm] Bluestreak: How was it? [9:43pm] Bluestreak: Give out your cards? [9:43pm] Bluestreak: So glad we can cover for each other like we do [9:43pm] Bluestreak: Thank you so much K [9:44pm] Igel: if i get any additional graphics/flyers can i email them to you [9:44pm] Kendra: It was pretty good, a lot of journalists and a few people I saw at the Berkman media center last week. I gave him my pirate party card adn got his card. [9:44pm] Bluestreak: I am going to make a slap togethe... [9:44pm] Bluestreak: Good, K [9:44pm] jokeefe: glad it went well [9:44pm] Bluestreak: I am going to make some half assed flyers for Dance Friday and Harvard Sq [9:45pm] Bluestreak: For the 28th [9:45pm] Igel: whats the 2nd idea jokeefe [9:45pm] Bluestreak: Will do that tomorrow. Going out tomorrow [9:45pm] Igel: oh nvm misread [9:45pm] jokeefe: DMC - what about What would it take for _you_ to dump your NSA-compliant service provider? as the general overview and the crypto party as more hands on? [9:45pm] Bluestreak: will put my crappy fliers out [9:45pm] Bluestreak: MESHNET! [9:45pm] Bluestreak: That's what it would take [9:46pm] srevilak: jokeefe: are we doing one or both (for DMC) [9:46pm] jokeefe: they seem interested in two [9:46pm] srevilak: that's what I thought [9:46pm] jokeefe: could use fliers for 9/28 cryptoparty, Bluestreak [9:46pm] jokeefe: sorry, need fliers not could use [9:46pm] Bluestreak: Yes, they wont be great [9:47pm] srevilak: I'll volunteer to put together DMC cryptoparty [9:47pm] Bluestreak: But I will do *something* since Blue and Dana are not available [9:47pm] Bluestreak: TY srevilak [9:47pm] jokeefe: thanks. just the facts is fine [9:47pm] jokeefe: thank you. srevilak [9:47pm] Bluestreak: Just the facts, Ma'am [9:48pm] jokeefe: Suggestions for people to be on a What would it take for _you_ to dump your NSA-compliant service provider? panel? [9:48pm] srevilak: Panel discussion seems reasonable [9:49pm] srevilak: might be interesting to have different viewpoints. [9:49pm] srevilak: Pros/cons of stay vs switch [9:49pm] srevilak: different levels of risk tolerance, etc [9:49pm] Bluestreak: I hate to say it but most ppl dont care [9:50pm] Bluestreak: Alex and Joan and I found most ppl at the Copley steps did not care that they were being watched [9:50pm] Bluestreak: Vast Majority [9:50pm] Igel: its a tough question to answer on the street [9:51pm] srevilak: Also, should we be doing more to educate people? [9:51pm] Igel: if you pose the question in a way that -all- the people were watched vs. just you.. it gets interesting [9:51pm] jokeefe: yes, srevilak [9:51pm] Bluestreak: Actaully two women *were* discussing it on the st [9:51pm] Igel: because most people do good. [9:51pm] srevilak: Question is -- why do some brush it off, vs care very deeply [9:51pm] Bluestreak: What is that supposed to mena "doo godd"? [9:51pm] Bluestreak: oops [9:51pm] Bluestreak: lol [9:52pm] Bluestreak: do good [9:52pm] Igel: if dick cheney was in office... the answer could be very different [9:52pm] Bluestreak: Its a perception thing [9:52pm] jokeefe: what I get from people is "there is no privacy, why bother" [9:52pm] jokeefe: some people [9:52pm] Kendra: A lot of people want to be on tv. They think their lives are a show worth watching. [9:52pm] JCFiero: aye [9:52pm] Bluestreak: LOL! [9:52pm] jokeefe: lol [9:52pm] Igel: heh... [9:52pm] Bluestreak: LMAO [9:52pm] Bluestreak: No but seriously [9:53pm] srevilak: The flip side -- are you comfortable helping the surveillance system? [9:53pm] Bluestreak: Most ppl are not saying anything controversial [9:53pm] Bluestreak: We are concerned becasue *we are* [9:53pm] Bluestreak: As activists our private lives may be targeted [9:53pm] Bluestreak: average Joe had no such concern [9:54pm] srevilak: To make panel interesting, could have a devils advocate: [9:54pm] jokeefe: well if folks want to be on the panel or have suggestions for people to ask, email me. [9:54pm] Bluestreak: Now if their *neighbor* or their rival at work could read their email... [9:54pm] srevilak: I'm happy with my NSA-compliant service provider [9:54pm] Bluestreak: Me too [9:54pm] jokeefe: the rest of the events can wait. [9:54pm] jokeefe: 2. College Cryptoparties [9:55pm] Bluestreak: I need to make calls [9:55pm] jokeefe: black_van is contacting folks who offered to be college coordinators about getting space for cryptoparties [9:55pm] srevilak: Bluestreak: "I'm happy with my NSA-compliant service provider" is devils advocate position. In reality, I'm not happy with them. or, I don't use ones that are NSA-friendly [9:55pm] jokeefe: aye! [9:55pm] Bluestreak: Well, honestly, I am not worried [9:56pm] jokeefe: will hopefully know more in a week. [9:56pm] Bluestreak: My life is an open book, and if they want dirt on me, they will find a way to get it [9:56pm] Bluestreak: NSA or no [9:56pm] Igel: well [9:56pm] Bluestreak: OK so, Jason WAS going to be home for 2 weeks [9:56pm] Igel: i dont like lists [9:57pm] Bluestreak: but that changed to one week [9:57pm] Igel: and big databases , and big algorithms [9:57pm] Bluestreak: So I never got to calling [9:57pm] Bluestreak: which would help jump start the college plan [9:57pm] Kendra: A lot of people seems willing to compromise their privacy for netflix. i don't know. [9:57pm] Igel: i think they wind up putting 8 year olds on terrorist lists, etc.. [9:57pm] jokeefe: hold the thought on calling, Bluestreak [9:57pm] Bluestreak: Oh [9:57pm] Bluestreak: OK [9:57pm] jokeefe: 3. Budget - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkPs3eiAOk5mdFNGcE9ZOXpQNHJ4RVhrQzFtOWFzX1E#gid=4 [9:57pm] JCFiero: we are not saying anything controversial.. the govt. is over-reaching and spying.. they are violating the law and/or the spirit of the law as it applies to our rights...we should be bale to find pleant of Student area groups that araedy exist that our issues will resonate with [9:58pm] Bluestreak: Budget time [9:58pm] jokeefe: The budget I worked out for the rest of the year is $1200. Anything I missed? [9:58pm] Bluestreak: I object strongly to Tally Fox [9:58pm] Bluestreak: What do we really need it for? [9:59pm] jokeefe: Increasing communication among pirates [9:59pm] jokeefe: once it is ready [9:59pm] Bluestreak: Costs a fortune in the meantime [9:59pm] jokeefe: gotta think big [9:59pm] Bluestreak: bitch please! [10:00pm] Bluestreak: LOL [10:00pm] jokeefe: So, ideally, we should try to raise about $2000 to have a cushion for next year [10:00pm] Bluestreak: Feel free! [10:00pm] JCFiero: shhhh some fisrt officer you are... Bluestreak [10:00pm] Bluestreak: LOL [10:00pm] Bluestreak: I am am not busting my butt to raise that money. Sry [10:01pm] Bluestreak: First we have to GET BIG [10:01pm] Bluestreak: Then we can think big [10:01pm] Igel: if we can measure big, we can mananage big [10:01pm] Kendra: We should have a halloween pirate party fundraiser and charge 10 bucks. [10:01pm] Bluestreak: I want to focus on recruiting [10:01pm] Bluestreak: Genius [10:01pm] JCFiero: we shall see.. U should give it some tie [10:01pm] JCFiero: +m [10:01pm] srevilak: dress like a pirate party? [10:02pm] Bluestreak: There you go [10:02pm] jokeefe: lol [10:02pm] Bluestreak: Where? [10:02pm] Kendra: It's the one time we have an excuse. [10:02pm] jokeefe: agreed [10:02pm] js0000 left the chat room. [10:02pm] JCFiero: parties would rock for sure - we have a venue in Franklin that can handle ~120 ppl [10:02pm] Bluestreak: ONE time? who have you been hanging out with? [10:02pm] Bluestreak: Ppl cant GET to Franklin [10:03pm] Bluestreak: Most of our base is in Boston. [10:03pm] Bluestreak: Sprouts? [10:03pm] Kendra: I could check into the space at Industry Labs in Inman Sq. [10:03pm] Bluestreak: OK [10:03pm] jokeefe: please do, Kendra. [10:03pm] JCFiero: ok thx [10:03pm] Igel: whoa [10:03pm] Bluestreak: Way to be positive and proactive K [10:04pm] Igel: mm. [10:04pm] jokeefe: My suggestion would be to line up a place for a fundraiser, and call people up tell supporters what we are doing, invite them to it and ask them to chip in if they cannot make it. [10:05pm] Bluestreak: change the script. Yes. [10:05pm] jokeefe: operative question is who can help make calls? [10:05pm] Bluestreak: Joe volunteered [10:05pm] srevilak: I can help [10:05pm] Bluestreak: Jason did too but work schedule changed [10:05pm] Bluestreak: Yay [10:05pm] JCFiero: I like that ... we can all make some calls.. I think many hands light work... [10:05pm] srevilak: Perhaps we do a phone bank meeting? [10:05pm] jokeefe: sounds good! [10:06pm] Bluestreak: Um... meaning srevilak? [10:06pm] srevilak: All get together, spend 1--2 hours making calls? [10:06pm] jokeefe: cell phone bank [10:06pm] srevilak: jokeefe: exactly [10:06pm] Bluestreak: Where? [10:06pm] Bluestreak: IRC? [10:06pm] jokeefe: & when [10:06pm] jokeefe: no nice to get together in person [10:06pm] Bluestreak: Always! [10:06pm] srevilak: also nice to practice on each other firs [10:06pm] jokeefe: 10/20th? [10:06pm] srevilak: first [10:07pm] Bluestreak: That's out meetong [10:07pm] Bluestreak: meeting [10:07pm] Bluestreak: our [10:07pm] Bluestreak: gah [10:07pm] Bluestreak: after the meetiong? [10:07pm] srevilak: I'm in favor of doing an hour on 10/20 [10:07pm] Igel: dunno [10:07pm] Bluestreak: I am too, srevilak [10:08pm] JCFiero: It would be good to make some calls sooner if possible.. [10:08pm] Bluestreak: ? [10:08pm] Bluestreak: What about the 6th? [10:08pm] JCFiero: but certainly 30min-1hr of calls before and after the 10/20 meeting [10:08pm] Bluestreak: Since we are not meeting then [10:08pm] jokeefe: 10/6 is fine with me. [10:08pm] Bluestreak: Where? [10:08pm] Bluestreak: Here? [10:09pm] Bluestreak: Somerville? [10:09pm] jokeefe: if we want more people to make it then Boston area is good [10:09pm] Bluestreak: Agreed [10:09pm] Bluestreak: So...? [10:09pm] jokeefe: I am fine with Somerville [10:10pm] Bluestreak: as in 25 Moore? [10:10pm] jokeefe: unless there is someone else who can host it. Could just ask [10:10pm] jokeefe: who can make 10/6? [10:10pm] jokeefe: me [10:10pm] Bluestreak: OK, well you can be the fall back position then [10:10pm] Bluestreak: We can. [10:11pm] Igel: aye [10:11pm] srevilak: I'll be out of town on the 6th [10:11pm] Bluestreak: We will bring Joe [10:11pm] Bluestreak: IK [10:11pm] Bluestreak: We will manage [10:11pm] Bluestreak: Rather not meet without you though [10:11pm] Kendra: BTW Versus News is having a Launch party this saturday night 9/21 at 6-10 pm at Industry labs 288 Norfolk St., 4th Floor, Cambridge MA [10:11pm] Bluestreak: so ty anyway for offering to call [10:12pm] Bluestreak: IDK if I will have any energy left! [10:12pm] Bluestreak: PLUS [10:12pm] Bluestreak: After SFD is dinner for interested peeps [10:12pm] jokeefe: thanks, Kendra. [10:12pm] Bluestreak: But yes... [10:12pm] Bluestreak: I would like to go to both [10:12pm] jokeefe: So 10/6 calls, at a place to be decided. later afternoon? 4-6pm? [10:13pm] Bluestreak: I just need some adderall to keep me going all day... [10:13pm] jokeefe: sleep ... [10:13pm] Bluestreak: yes because pplp are OUT on sundays [10:13pm] Bluestreak: then home in the eveings [10:13pm] jokeefe: 5-7pm? [10:13pm] Kendra: I might be at the May First meet up in Brooklyn Oct 5-6 [10:13pm] jokeefe: cell phone pirate pizza party! [10:13pm] Bluestreak: Jamie, Jason, Me, Joe [10:14pm] jokeefe: lgel [10:14pm] Bluestreak: I will invite Joan [10:14pm] Bluestreak: OK that is plenty [10:14pm] jokeefe: yay! [10:14pm] Bluestreak: We need the Halloween party plans in place by then [10:14pm] jokeefe: aye! [10:14pm] Bluestreak: yay Jamie is excited! [10:14pm] Bluestreak: Hee hee [10:15pm] jokeefe: we are over time. folks want to call it a night? [10:15pm] JCFiero: I have to go help kids.. ttfn yar! [10:15pm] Bluestreak: Yes. [10:15pm] jokeefe: good night JCFiero [10:15pm] Bluestreak: He's gone already [10:15pm] Bluestreak: LOL [10:15pm] jokeefe: aye [10:15pm] Bluestreak: motion to adjourn [10:16pm] Bluestreak: Avast ye scurvy dogs! [10:16pm] jokeefe: 2nd [10:16pm] srevilak: I'll second Bluestreak's motion [10:16pm] Igel: aye [10:16pm] jokeefe: pirate or horse noises? [10:16pm] Bluestreak: Time to set sail for slumberland [10:16pm] Bluestreak: yar [10:16pm] Kendra: Halloween is on a thursday, i will look at dates around there, 2nd to adjourn [10:17pm] Bluestreak: pirate... tlapd [10:17pm] Igel: yaaar [10:17pm] jokeefe: thanks [10:17pm] Bluestreak: thanks, K [10:17pm] Bluestreak: Vote? [10:17pm] Bluestreak: Goodnight [10:17pm] jokeefe: motion passes. [10:17pm] Bluestreak: Sleep tight [10:17pm] Igel: aye capt [10:17pm] Bluestreak: pleasant dreams... [10:17pm] jokeefe: good night folks, thanks