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## srevilak will bring a wifi we can setup so people can get the software  | ## srevilak will bring a wifi we can setup so people can get the software  | ||
## Posted blog post  | ## Posted blog post  | ||
# General Assembly/Together Boston Cryptoparty  | # General Assembly/Together Boston Cryptoparty (Sunday, May 18th)  | ||
# Have four speakers, ACLU willing to sponsor  | ## Have four speakers, ACLU willing to sponsor  | ||
# Tech Issues  | # Tech Issues  | ||
## mayfirst updated OpenSSL to deal with Heartbleed bug.  Srevilak will update self-cert.  js0000 looking for cert. that does cost an arm and a leg.  | ## mayfirst updated OpenSSL to deal with Heartbleed bug.  Srevilak will update self-cert.  js0000 looking for cert. that does cost an arm and a leg.  | ||
## Srevilak working on CiviCRM  | ## Srevilak working on CiviCRM  | ||
### BitPay  | ### BitPay  | ||
##   | ## voter reg. app on hold for a month  | ||
# Support, Outreach & Finances  | # Support, Outreach & Finances  | ||
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* Bluelustreak (Lucia Fiero  | * Bluelustreak (Lucia Fiero)  | ||
*   | * srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA)  | ||
*   | * PLantzz (Leilani Mroczkowski, Somerville, MA)  | ||
*   | * K`Tetch (Andrew Norton, Monticello, GA - USPP Vice Chairman)  | ||
*   | * ajehals (Andy Halsall, Sheffield, UK (just observing))  | ||
* Kendra  | |||
* tsygrl  | |||
* jokeefe (James O'Keefe, Somerville)  | * jokeefe (James O'Keefe, Somerville)  | ||
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== Summary ==  | == Summary ==  | ||
Updated fundraiser notes: https://piratenpad.de/p/Fun-Raiser-20plans  | |||
Cryptoparty @ PAX: Saturday noon - 4pm  | |||
== Meeting Minutes ==  | == Meeting Minutes ==  | ||
  <nowiki>  |   <nowiki>  | ||
21:01 < srevilak> Intros:  | |||
21:01 < Bluelustreak> You ROCK  | |||
21:01 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlintgon, MA  | |||
21:01 < Bluelustreak> Lucia Fiero  | |||
21:01 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA  | |||
21:01 < Bluelustreak> ID pls  | |||
21:01 < Plantzz> Leilani Mroczkowski, Somerville, MA  | |||
21:02 < K`Tetch> Andrew Norton, shady Dale, GA - USPP Vice Chairman  | |||
21:02 < ajehals> Andy Halsall, Sheffield, UK (just observing)  | |||
21:02 < Bluelustreak> Welcome observers  | |||
21:02 < Bluelustreak> Kendra!  | |||
21:02 < Bluelustreak> Howady  | |||
21:03 < Bluelustreak> Is there an agenda srevilak?  | |||
21:03 < K`Tetch> it was on twitter  | |||
21:03 < srevilak> https://masspirates.org/wiki/April_10th,_2014_IRC_Meeting#Participants  | |||
21:03 < srevilak> Looks like we're starting with Fundraiser  | |||
21:03 < Kendra> Hi Mass Pirates  | |||
21:04 < srevilak> Appears we have a DJ  | |||
21:04 < srevilak> Appears we have to decide on 1 of 2 performers  | |||
21:04 < Bluelustreak> I like Caitlin  | |||
21:04 < Bluelustreak> Also, Bobbi Niciosa volunteered to take care of food.  | |||
21:04 < srevilak> I know Noe is planning to attend. Hoping Joe will be there, so we can do a few minutes of "meet the candidates"  | |||
21:05 < Bluelustreak> I will follow up with Bobbi after PAX  | |||
21:05 < Kendra> Kendra Moyer, Highland Park, MI  | |||
21:05 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: thx.  May want to have a few people helping Bobbi  | |||
21:05 < Bluelustreak> Sarah Francis DID volunteer (don't smack me Kendra!)  | |||
21:06 < Bluelustreak> Also, I planned on dooing food prep.  | |||
21:06 < Bluelustreak> so that would be 3 of us  | |||
21:06  * srevilak goes to examine pad @ https://piratenpad.de/p/Fun-Raiser-20plans  | |||
21:06 < Bluelustreak> Jamie has put the Kibosh on the Capioera group  | |||
21:07 < srevilak> While we're here, can we clean up logistics notes?  | |||
21:07 < Bluelustreak> they ant too much scratch  | |||
21:07 < Bluelustreak> More specifically?  | |||
21:07 < Plantzz> The fundraiser is Friday May 9th, right? What are y'all aiming to do with food? I might be able to whip something up  | |||
21:07 < Bluelustreak> OK, good. We need vegan options  | |||
21:07 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: specifically, remove things that are no longer relevant, add things that are relevant but missing  | |||
21:07 < Bluelustreak> Lots of the activists in the area are vegan. I'm not but there you go  | |||
21:07 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: are you coordinating food?  | |||
21:08 < Plantzz> feel free to shoot me an email lsmroczkowski32@gmail.com I can definitely do vegan  | |||
21:09 < srevilak> Plantzz: thx  | |||
21:09 < Bluelustreak> LOL! .... and... it's gone  | |||
21:09 < tsygrl> hi all  | |||
21:09 < Bluelustreak> ahoy tsygrl  | |||
21:09 < tsygrl> ;-)  | |||
21:09 < Bluelustreak> Ooh! KNOW!  | |||
21:10 < Bluelustreak> We need something simple to hand out at PAX east  | |||
21:10 < tsygrl> has an agenda been created for the meeting ?  | |||
21:10 < Bluelustreak> http://masspirates.org/wiki/April_10th,_2014_IRC_Meeting  | |||
21:10 < davidd> so if anybody is interested i uploaded the 15 minutes we were on one of the main talkshows of the netherlands  | |||
21:10 < Bluelustreak> I will SO beinterested AFTER PAX  | |||
21:10 < davidd> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwyWYdkdgdE&feature=youtu.be  | |||
21:11 < davidd> but it is all in dutch  | |||
21:11 < srevilak> q: a while ago, we set up time slots for the fundraiser; anyone recall where that list went?  | |||
21:11 < Bluelustreak> I will put that on my watch list ty  | |||
21:11 < K`Tetch> you talking leaflet, badge, sticker? geegaw? Bluelustreak?  | |||
21:11 < davidd> but our pirate owns the old guys  | |||
21:11 < Bluelustreak> we had a 1/4 page "save the date"  | |||
21:11 < Bluelustreak> handed out at the Activists' Ball but the date has changed since then.  | |||
21:12 < Bluelustreak> If someone could please throw together another 1/4 page, updated, and put it on the blog? I will print and guillotine and hand out  | |||
21:12 < K`Tetch> a more generic one might be better than - multiple uses  | |||
21:13 < Bluelustreak> Well, we HAVE a more generic one. I have a ton of them to hand out  | |||
21:13 < Bluelustreak> We have TONS ofe these http://www.masspirates.org//blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/PirateTrifold.pdf  | |||
21:14 < Bluelustreak> Speaking of which, it has been suggested we switch out the jolly roger graphic with a MPP flag graphic  | |||
21:15 < tsygrl> That's a great leaflet.  | |||
21:15 < Bluelustreak> Oh. Thanks. I had nothing at all to do with it :-D  | |||
21:15 < Bluelustreak> Except I paid for the latest run :-D  | |||
21:15 < tsygrl> I'm in VT - been trying to get pirates to run in the open Liberty Union primaries.  | |||
21:16 < Bluelustreak> COOL!  | |||
21:16 < Bluelustreak> I know someone who just moved to Brattleboro  | |||
21:16 < Bluelustreak> If you gimme your email, I will point her to ya  | |||
21:16 < tsygrl> marina@e271.net  | |||
21:16 < Bluelustreak> TY  | |||
21:17 < jokeefe> James O'Keefe, Somerville  | |||
21:17 < Bluelustreak> Ahoy, cap'n!  | |||
21:17 < tsygrl> ;-)  | |||
21:17 < srevilak> I've updated logistics notes at https://piratenpad.de/p/Fun-Raiser-20plans  | |||
21:17 < jokeefe> ahoy!  | |||
21:17 < Bluelustreak> Great flyer btw srevilak!  | |||
21:17 < srevilak> can you folks look them over?  | |||
21:18 < Bluelustreak> I have to add one thing:  | |||
21:18 < Bluelustreak> Sarah C implied that we sould use the library, too and I have been working on this guy...  | |||
21:19 < Bluelustreak> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Light-Painting-Portraits/269077289774224  | |||
21:19 < Bluelustreak> Very cool thing to do at night, and we could request a donation for his services or sumpin...  | |||
21:20 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: where would the light guy fit into the schedule?  | |||
21:20 < Bluelustreak> He would be on going  | |||
21:20 < jokeefe> so where are we in the agenda?  | |||
21:20 < Bluelustreak> I first experienced him at Dance Friday  | |||
21:20 < srevilak> jokeefe: Fundraiser logistics  | |||
21:20 < srevilak> https://piratenpad.de/p/Fun-Raiser-20plans  | |||
21:20 < Bluelustreak> He was in the lobby and as people took breaks from dancing they gave him a whirl  | |||
21:21 < srevilak> Bobbi and Plantzz offered to help w/food  | |||
21:21 < srevilak> we still have to choose between the two acts  | |||
21:21 < jokeefe> great!  | |||
21:21 < srevilak> In terms of acts, IIRC we had Andrew Parker-Renga and Caitlin Timmins  | |||
21:21 < Bluelustreak> It takes a little practice... I wasn;t go great at it https://www.flickr.com/photos/31759445@N06/13050996305/in/set-72157639572536263  | |||
21:22 < srevilak> vote one one?  | |||
21:22 < srevilak> vote on one?  | |||
21:22 < Bluelustreak> Sigh  | |||
21:22 < Bluelustreak> I like them both!  | |||
21:22 < srevilak> we have $200 budget for entertainment, and two hours  | |||
21:23 < Bluelustreak> More light portraits: https://www.flickr.com/photos/31759445@N06/sets/72157639572536263/  | |||
21:23 < srevilak> thoughts on splitting the two hours, or picking one act?  | |||
21:24 < srevilak> jokeefe: you've spoken to the artists; what's your sense?  | |||
21:24 < jokeefe> I would like to wait a bit longer to hear from the others.  at least through tomorrow  | |||
21:24 < srevilak> okay.  Then let's defer  | |||
21:24 < Bluelustreak> I would like to wait until after PAX  | |||
21:24 < Bluelustreak> *waiting to exhale*  | |||
21:25 < srevilak> Re flyer: I'll update "register" url.  And tweak layout (accidentally designed it around A4 rather than US letter)  | |||
21:25 < Bluelustreak> I won't wait until next IRC... I will send my news to the list  | |||
21:25 < jokeefe> they are both responsive.  I would like to lock the schedule down, but I told them we would make a decision by next Thursday.  Doesn't mean we can make it earlier.  | |||
21:25 < jokeefe> Haven't gotten rates for one of them.  | |||
21:25 < Bluelustreak> 1/4 page is what I need!  | |||
21:26 < srevilak> jokeefe: ok  | |||
21:26 < jokeefe> Chris Reynolds won't know until he a week before.  So we can just fit him in.  | |||
21:26 < srevilak> ok  | |||
21:26 < srevilak> Is Joe Planning to attend?  | |||
21:27 < jokeefe> I know Noe is  | |||
21:27 < Bluelustreak> OK I hate to put the boy down  | |||
21:27 < srevilak> Alright - will follow up with Joe  | |||
21:27 < Bluelustreak> But he just isn't trying  | |||
21:27 < Bluelustreak> BUT...  | |||
21:27 < Bluelustreak> AFTER PAX...  | |||
21:28 < srevilak> ok  | |||
21:28 < Bluelustreak> Jason and I will be collecting for him again  | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> srevilak, like your flier, but needs to show rates before and after, but have fewer words.  | |||
21:28 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: before and after what?  | |||
21:28 < Bluelustreak> Honestly don't care if we cary him, I just haven't been well the past coupe weeks  | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> Bluelustreak, do you have any dates set for signature gathering?  | |||
21:29 < jokeefe> Need to plan when we can come out as well as get the word out.  | |||
21:29 < Bluelustreak> Jason has one week off: Vacation week. He and I were going to crank on that week.  | |||
21:29 < Bluelustreak> Not off, either, he will be working on site but in MA not NJ  | |||
21:29 < jokeefe> How many do you have so far?  | |||
21:29 < Bluelustreak> IDK how many Joe has but I don't think I have 20  | |||
21:30 < jokeefe> raw or validated?  | |||
21:30 < Bluelustreak> RAW  | |||
21:30 < srevilak> jokeefe: signature deadline is 4/29?  | |||
21:30 < jokeefe> yes  | |||
21:30 < Bluelustreak> Not impossible.  | |||
21:30 < Bluelustreak> I am holding my breath until I get my boy through PAX... Huge undertaking for me  | |||
21:30 < srevilak> On weekends, that Gives us 4/13, 4/19, 4/20, 4/27  | |||
21:31 < Bluelustreak> Doing my best.  | |||
21:31 < Bluelustreak> If you want to come out and help, great, if not, we will manage  | |||
21:31 < srevilak> will write Joe after IRC meeting  | |||
21:31 < Bluelustreak> THANK YOU!  | |||
21:31 < srevilak> are we set with Fundraiser?  | |||
21:31 < srevilak> (for now?)  | |||
21:31 < Bluelustreak> Don't know what he has been up to. He did not show for personal training today  | |||
21:32 < jokeefe> Think so.  Need more details on food.  | |||
21:32 < Bluelustreak> and I PAY him for that  | |||
21:32 < srevilak> Plantzz: will write to you and bobby post IRC  | |||
21:32 < srevilak> (re: food)  | |||
21:32 < jokeefe> thanks  | |||
21:33 < jokeefe> On to 2014 Campaign  | |||
21:33 < srevilak> need to start publicizing soon, so we can get RSVPs and head count for food  | |||
21:33 < srevilak> yes -> 2014 campaign  | |||
21:34 < srevilak> I think we've got a rought status re: Joe.  | |||
21:34 < jokeefe> Noe has at least 113 validated signatures.  With more being validated and others outstanding.  Trying to wrap it up, but PAX will interfere.  | |||
21:34 < Bluelustreak> Yay Jamie and Noe!  | |||
21:34 < srevilak> jokeefe: can we bring a few forms to PAX.  In case Villens show up?  | |||
21:35 < Bluelustreak> Villens?  | |||
21:35 < jokeefe> sure  | |||
21:35 < srevilak> villen = Somervillian  | |||
21:35 < jokeefe> yeah, that seems to be the term  | |||
21:35 < Bluelustreak> And I will have Joe's papers with me at PAX  | |||
21:35 < Bluelustreak> Ah  | |||
21:35 < jokeefe> Cambridge has Cantabridgians  | |||
21:35 < srevilak> Arlington has meat packers  | |||
21:36 < srevilak> :)  | |||
21:36 < jokeefe> I contacted all of the other potential candidates including meeting with one.  I think we only have Joe & Noe unless someone wants to run for US House which has a later deadline.  | |||
21:36 < Bluelustreak> Too many sigs needed  | |||
21:36 < Bluelustreak> You know what? There's always local elections in 2015  | |||
21:36 < srevilak> how many signatures for state rep?  | |||
21:36 < Bluelustreak> I will run then if I don't get Joe on the ballot.  | |||
21:36 < Bluelustreak> 150  | |||
21:36 < Bluelustreak> sounds easy  | |||
21:37 < Bluelustreak> Lucky to get one in an hour, raw  | |||
21:37 < K`Tetch> go to pax and sign EVERYONE up you can  | |||
21:37 < Bluelustreak> PAX has ppl from all over  | |||
21:37 < K`Tetch> if they're not from Mass, hell, send em to cational, we'll sort em  | |||
21:37 < Bluelustreak> we can only get ppl from the districy  | |||
21:37 < Bluelustreak> 4 specific towns in MA  | |||
21:37 < srevilak> shall we move on to PAX / Cryptoparty?  | |||
21:37 < Bluelustreak> Yes pla  | |||
21:37 < Bluelustreak> pls  | |||
21:38 < srevilak> We have meeting place.  Do we have times?  | |||
21:38 < Bluelustreak> Geez, another flyer would be ggod!  | |||
21:38 < Bluelustreak> I will be there all day tomorrow  | |||
21:38 < Bluelustreak> I could post/hand them out  | |||
21:39 < Bluelustreak> OMG I AM GOING TO BE THERE ALL DAY TOMORROW!  | |||
21:39 < Bluelustreak> (help!)  | |||
21:39 < srevilak> Yes, but I don't think we've decided on Sat. times for the Cryptoparty  | |||
21:39 < jokeefe> noon to 4pm?  | |||
21:40 < srevilak> Works for me  | |||
21:40 < Bluelustreak> Wow that long?  | |||
21:40 < jokeefe> noon - 3pm?  | |||
21:40 < Bluelustreak> noon to 4 is fine  | |||
21:40 < jokeefe> noon to 4pm it is  | |||
21:40 < Bluelustreak> Just... Shutting up now  | |||
21:40 < jokeefe> General Assembly/Together Boston Cryptoparty  | |||
21:40 < Bluelustreak> So srevilak if you throw together another lil flyer...  | |||
21:40 < jokeefe> Got four speakers.    | |||
21:41 < Bluelustreak> I will print and cut and trim and hand out  | |||
21:41 < jokeefe> ageis, you there?  | |||
21:41 < Bluelustreak> pagin ageis  | |||
21:41 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: sure.  Can toss something together later tonight  | |||
21:41 < Bluelustreak> TYVM email me when done with link  | |||
21:42 < jokeefe> anyhow - for topics - have PGP, VPN, Jitsi (maybe), OTR (I could do that)  | |||
21:42 < Bluelustreak> Pinging KG on FB  | |||
21:42 < Bluelustreak> I cannot present you know  | |||
21:43 < Bluelustreak> Not this one  | |||
21:43 < Bluelustreak> Boy will have me flat out all w/e  | |||
21:43 < jokeefe> think 1hr 30 min sessions or 2hr session, srevilak?  | |||
21:43 < srevilak> 90 min seems better than 2 hours  | |||
21:44 < Bluelustreak> Agreed  | |||
21:44 < jokeefe> but is hands on.    | |||
21:44 < Bluelustreak> Breaks r good  | |||
21:44 < jokeefe> when we did the PGP one, we took all the time we had  | |||
21:44 < srevilak> How about this: schedule presentations in two-hour blocks, with goal of running 90-120 minutes  | |||
21:45 < srevilak> we can use time if we need it, or wrap up early if we don't  | |||
21:46 < jokeefe> sure, then we can do 3x2 sessions, and possibly have repeats  | |||
21:46 < srevilak> Date is May 18th (Sun), correct?  | |||
21:46 < ageis> jokeefe im here  | |||
21:46 < jokeefe> hey!  | |||
21:46 < ageis> sup  | |||
21:46 < ageis> I didn't like the idea of repeat sessions  | |||
21:46 < jokeefe> not sure if you are getting my email.  wanted to know if you wanted to do a class at the 5/18 crypto party   | |||
21:46 < jokeefe> be hands on  | |||
21:47 < ageis> I replied to that. you never get my email for some reason  | |||
21:47 < ageis> im unable to confirm atm cause plans to fly to dallas next day. after April 29 I will know for sure cause my travel dates may adjust  | |||
21:47 < jokeefe> try jpokeefe@riseup.net  | |||
21:48 < Bluelustreak> try me: EMAIL REDACTED will relay  | |||
21:48 < ageis> so I'd appreciate if you leave a spot just in case. It looks likely that I can teach, I just cant solidly confirm  | |||
21:48 < jokeefe> ok, thanks for the update.  hope your trip goes well.  how are things with BB?  | |||
21:48 < Bluelustreak> That would be great, ageis  | |||
21:48 < ageis> good  | |||
21:48 < jokeefe> sure, we can hold a spot.  If you can, great.  if not, will adjust.  | |||
21:49  * srevilak can wing it an fill in for ageis if needed  | |||
21:49 < jokeefe> thanks  | |||
21:49 < jokeefe> Moving on to Tech Issues  | |||
21:49 < jokeefe> voter reg. on hold  | |||
21:50 < jokeefe> Heartbleed affected us, though no more than we were before SSL.    | |||
21:50 < srevilak> well, I'm not so sure  | |||
21:50 < jokeefe> oh?  | |||
21:50 < srevilak> co-worker got their hands on a proof of concept exploit script, and ran it against web servers of a large commercial email provider  | |||
21:51 < srevilak> exploit handed back up to 64 of raw memory.  | |||
21:51 < jokeefe> oh, I meant our site.  everyone else is screwed up.  | |||
21:51 < srevilak> That's the thing.  If an SSL site is on same host as your site,  | |||
21:51 < jokeefe> rinse repeat, gets you more than 64  | |||
21:52 < jokeefe> they aren't segregated?  | |||
21:52 < srevilak> right - 64k of stuff that happened to be in server's memory, from any site it's hosting  | |||
21:52 < srevilak> that's true - each site runs as a separate user id process  | |||
21:52 < tsygrl> What really sucked was tor hidden services have to generate new keys.  | |||
21:53 < tsygrl> including .onion hostnames  | |||
21:53 < Bluelustreak> Um.. do I need to change my blog pw?  | |||
21:53 < ageis> yep we've been doing that for securedrop (I work at FreedomofPress)  | |||
21:53 < Bluelustreak> Because I haven't.  | |||
21:53 < jokeefe> yes, Bluelustreak  | |||
21:53 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: to be safe, you should probably change every password you have  | |||
21:53 < ageis> my own webserver was vuln too. ive collected a few different proof of concept scripts in diff languages  | |||
21:53 < Bluelustreak> Doing it now  | |||
21:53 < tsygrl> I have one cert left to dump - my private outgoing email cert.  | |||
21:53 < jokeefe> srevilak, we have a new cert?  | |||
21:54 < srevilak> my co-worker claims to have gotten other peoples credentials.  Happened to be in POST string that was still in memory  | |||
21:54 < ageis> srevilak: not surprising!   | |||
21:54 < ageis> certs need to be re-keyed, not just re-issued  | |||
21:54 < srevilak> jokeefe: not yet.  I continue to be involved in MFPL cleanup  | |||
21:54 < srevilak> ageis: correct.  Great time to add more bits to your key :)  | |||
21:55 < tsygrl> 'the intercept' changed their onion address just a few hours after heartbleed was announced.  | |||
21:55 < ageis> and enable perfect forward secrecy, HSTS and all that good stuff  | |||
21:55 < jokeefe> BTW: here is a list of tested sites https://github.com/musalbas/heartbleed-masstest/blob/master/top10000.txt?_ga=1.13854263.1609324084.1397181278  | |||
21:55 < ageis> tsygrl: yeah, im involved in updating the securedrop instances with new onion URLs  | |||
21:55 < srevilak> MFPL uses PFS. 77 vulnerable servers, half of which were only vulnerable for a few days  | |||
21:55 < jokeefe> OOOO FIDO not vulnerable  | |||
21:56 < srevilak> Ours, unfortunately, was vulnerable for two months  | |||
21:56 < srevilak> will get cert done after PAX.  | |||
21:56 < ageis> funny, I upgraded some servers from squeeze to wheezy just a few weeks ago, thus from openssl 0.9.8 to 1.0.1-so werent vulnerable until recently  | |||
21:56 < ageis> CloudFlare also got ahead, if you use their SSL service they got you covered.  | |||
21:57 < Bluelustreak> OKAY now locked out of blog.  | |||
21:57 < jokeefe> ok, thanks, srevilak  | |||
21:57 < Bluelustreak> So PW reset, pls srevlak?  | |||
21:57 < Bluelustreak> Managed to screw up PW change  | |||
21:58 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: https://masspirates.org/blog/wp-login.php  | |||
21:58 < srevilak> click "Lost your password"  | |||
21:58 < srevilak> anything more on tech issues?  | |||
21:58 < Bluelustreak> Yes I had figured that out *tech challenged*  | |||
21:58 < jokeefe> Srevilak just checking - any progress on CiviCRM?  ok if not.  | |||
21:59 < srevilak> jokeefe: will touch base with you later.  Would like to move what I have to masspirates.net, and continue from there  | |||
21:59 < K`Tetch> are you locked into that now?  | |||
21:59 < jokeefe> voter app maybe in a month  | |||
21:59 < srevilak> K`Tetch: locked in to what?  | |||
21:59 < jokeefe> sure we can use mass pirates.net  | |||
21:59 < K`Tetch> civiCRM  | |||
22:00 < jokeefe> haven't tried it.  | |||
22:00 < srevilak> K`Tetch: not yet, but we're working on it  | |||
22:00 < K`Tetch> national's moving to the new PPUK NWP  | |||
22:00 < jokeefe> you have a better suggestion?  | |||
22:00 < jokeefe> what is that?  | |||
22:00 < K`Tetch> go to pirateparty.org.uk to see :-)  | |||
22:00 < K`Tetch> its a full-service pirate web system  | |||
22:01 < K`Tetch> membership, internal voting, documentation, etc. all in one  | |||
22:01 < K`Tetch> ajehals there is one of the architechts  | |||
22:01 < K`Tetch> erm, one of the main ones behind it  | |||
22:01 < ajehals> I'll take architect.  | |||
22:01 < jokeefe> link to it?  | |||
22:01 < K`Tetch> (been a long day, lots of foreign languages, can't spell)  | |||
22:01 < ajehals> www.pirateparty.org.uk  | |||
22:01 < ajehals> Although the back end is the useful bit.  | |||
22:02 < jokeefe> we tried liquid feedback, but couldn't get it to move issues out of the first state and support wasn't easy to get  | |||
22:02 < ajehals> jokeefe: PPUK looked at it too, decided against.  | |||
22:02 < K`Tetch> I've been using it for 2 weeks now (in my position as ppuk governor and co-press-head) and it's wonderful  | |||
22:02 < ajehals> working with Lancaster university to build policy beta. - have a 10k grant.  | |||
22:02 < ajehals> see http://www.catalystproject.org.uk/projects/launchpads/policy-beta/  | |||
22:03 < srevilak> ajehals: i see pirateparty.org.uk is a drupal site.  Did you write your own modules?  | |||
22:03 < srevilak> And - can one get a copy of your theme?  | |||
22:03 < ajehals> nope, spent 18 months patching existing.  Better use of volunteer time  | |||
22:03 < K`Tetch> I'll have a copy of the theme and stuff sometime next week  | |||
22:03 < jokeefe> so where do we download to take a look at the code?  | |||
22:04 < ajehals> srevilak: yeah, although we were hoping for 30 days to review and tweak before releasing.  | |||
22:04 < ajehals> You can have and advance though!  | |||
22:04 < K`Tetch> I mainly brought it up as an option since national's going to it  | |||
22:05 < K`Tetch> and in case you were unaware  | |||
22:05 < Bluelustreak> So long as it's free to use!  | |||
22:05 < srevilak> ajehals: would be happy to beta test  | |||
22:05 < K`Tetch> the plan is github, right?  | |||
22:05 < ajehals> srevilak: That would be ace and yes, the plan is github  | |||
22:05 < ajehals> its all FOSS anyway.  | |||
22:05 < ajehals> The complex part is config.  | |||
22:05 < Bluelustreak> Yay  | |||
22:06 < srevilak> ajehals: config is _always_ the complex part :)  | |||
22:06 < jokeefe> yes  | |||
22:06 < ajehals> Indeed, but we've done that, so you can have that too.  | |||
22:06 < srevilak> github is fine.  We can cut our own branch and track your upstream  | |||
22:06 < ageis> I didn't know baout PAX east  | |||
22:07 < ajehals> Works for me.  I'll expect to see it fork fairly quickly, our requirements are going to be different.  | |||
22:07 < jokeefe> 72000 gamers  | |||
22:07 < srevilak> we're now at time  | |||
22:07 < jokeefe> yes we are.  | |||
22:07 < srevilak> Continue with Support, Outreach, Finances, or wrap up?  | |||
22:07 < jokeefe> lets do it quick  | |||
22:08 < srevilak> We have meeting with Lisa on 27th?  | |||
22:08 < jokeefe> we have a meeting on the 27th with an accountant who is going to talk with us about budgeting  | |||
22:08 < jokeefe> will record  | |||
22:08  * srevilak has meeting prep work to do ...  | |||
22:08 < Bluelustreak> Very sleepy  | |||
22:08 < jokeefe> aye.  bank account the same?  | |||
22:08 < Bluelustreak> HUGE day tomorrow  | |||
22:08 < K`Tetch> ok, quick question - anyone with an iOS device who wouldn't mind reviewing an app for national (and of course, mass)?  | |||
22:09 < ageis> badges are sold out and I can't make it anyway but it looks like a blast  | |||
22:09 < Bluelustreak> Android here  | |||
22:09 < jokeefe> there are common spaces as well.  | |||
22:09 < srevilak> K`Tetch: sorry, no ios  | |||
22:09 < Bluelustreak> There are things you can do for free at PAX  | |||
22:09 < Bluelustreak> ageis, if intersted  | |||
22:09 < jokeefe> email me K`Tetch and will pass on the word  | |||
22:09 < K`Tetch> ok  | |||
22:09 < ageis> im headed down to NYC to hobnob with Greenwald and Poitras heh  | |||
22:10 < ageis> they are entering US for first time since Snowden  | |||
22:10 < jokeefe> remotely then?  | |||
22:10 < jokeefe> really?  | |||
22:10 < Bluelustreak> Jealous  | |||
22:10 < jokeefe> brave souls  | |||
22:10 < ageis> yes  | |||
22:10 < ageis> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/10/glenn-greenwald-return-laura-poitras-snowden_n_5125574.html  | |||
22:10 < tsygrl> I hope all goes well for them.  | |||
22:10 < Bluelustreak> Jason would ask to tag along but I need him here to help me with boy  | |||
22:11 < Bluelustreak> He is 15 min outside Manhattan ATM  | |||
22:11 < ageis> cool!  | |||
22:11 < K`Tetch> after what uk immigration did to Miranda, I'm surpriused greenwald's coming to the US  | |||
22:11 < Bluelustreak> lol  | |||
22:11 < jokeefe> hopefully they aren't whisked away to an undisclosed location, but if so call us and we will do our part  | |||
22:11 < tsygrl> Remember Brijitta Johsdottir came to the US just to see what would happen.  | |||
22:11 < ageis> hopefully. its unlikely but you never know  | |||
22:11 < Bluelustreak> Jason was at that!  | |||
22:12 < Bluelustreak> Finally warmed him up to Pirates.  | |||
22:12 < jokeefe> think she has done it twice  | |||
22:12 < Bluelustreak> He found Birgitta do impressive  | |||
22:12 < Bluelustreak> Kevin Gostola, too  | |||
22:12 < Bluelustreak> so  | |||
22:12 < Bluelustreak> not do  | |||
22:12 < jokeefe> we are at time and have exhausted our agenda.  anything else need discussion?  | |||
22:12 < tsygrl> Well i have one thing.  | |||
22:12 < Bluelustreak> Pleasnt dreams?  | |||
22:12 < Bluelustreak> Doh  | |||
22:12 < K`Tetch> jokeefe - pm a sec  | |||
22:13 < Bluelustreak> go tsygril go  | |||
22:13 < tsygrl> I'm working with some folks in VT to set up a transparency op.  | |||
22:13 < jokeefe> k  | |||
22:13 < tsygrl> Hope to get a globaleaks/Securdrop set up.  | |||
22:13 < Bluelustreak> ok  | |||
22:14 < K`Tetch> oh, anyone thinking of dropping dropbox because of condi?  | |||
22:14 < Bluelustreak> Totally  | |||
22:14 < tsygrl> I'm looking for tech people or journalists who might be interested.  | |||
22:14 < Bluelustreak> Didn't use it much anyway  | |||
22:14 < tsygrl> ...and obviously out-of-jurisdiction hosting for website and hidden service.  | |||
22:14 < Bluelustreak> I know a couple of journos who might be  | |||
22:14 < jokeefe> I can neither confirm nor deny that I use dropbox, but won't be using them in the future  | |||
22:14 < Bluelustreak> LOL  | |||
22:16 < srevilak> motion to adjourn?  | |||
22:16 < tsygrl> ....so if there is anyone you might be able to point at me or point me @..  | |||
22:16 < Bluelustreak> 2nd  | |||
22:16 < Bluelustreak> I will email you like I said  | |||
22:16 < tsygrl> marina@e271.net / catskillmarina@gmail.com  | |||
22:16 < jokeefe> thanks tsygrl  | |||
22:16 < tsygrl> ;-)  | |||
22:16 < jokeefe> all in favor?  | |||
22:16 < Bluelustreak> eamiling u nao... aye  | |||
22:17 < jokeefe> srevilak, would you post the minutes?  | |||
22:17 < Kendra> nite all  | |||
22:17 < jokeefe> aye  | |||
22:17 < jokeefe> night Kendra  | |||
22:17 < srevilak> jokeefe: sure, will post  | |||
22:17 < jokeefe> thank you  | |||
22:17 < Plantzz> goodnight  | |||
22:17 < Bluelustreak> Sweet dreams!  | |||
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Latest revision as of 22:44, 1 February 2018
Decisions
- 5/9 Fundraiser
- MC - Chance is all set
 - Performers - Heard back from two of them. Sent examples of their work to the list. Confirming with Chris about standup.
 - DJ - Mr. Precision confirmed
 - Poster & handbills - Jamie will send details to KM
 - Blog post - post by this weekend if not earlier
 - Logistics - pad
 
 
Tasks
- 2014 Campaign
- Noe at at least 113 valid, with more not yet verified. Multiple people are helping gather signatures
 - Joe is making progress. Need to schedule a time for folks from out of area to help.
 
 - PAX Cryptoparty
- We will meet at the Level 1 SE Lobby
 - srevilak will bring a wifi we can setup so people can get the software
 - Posted blog post
 
 - General Assembly/Together Boston Cryptoparty (Sunday, May 18th)
- Have four speakers, ACLU willing to sponsor
 
 - Tech Issues
- mayfirst updated OpenSSL to deal with Heartbleed bug. Srevilak will update self-cert. js0000 looking for cert. that does cost an arm and a leg.
 - Srevilak working on CiviCRM
- BitPay
 
 - voter reg. app on hold for a month
 
 - Support, Outreach & Finances
- Finance update
 - Event checklist - we have source docs. need someone to put it together
 
 
Events
- April 12th PAX Cryptoparty
 - April 26th, noon, Jobs Not Jails: Rally to End Mass Incarceration and Fund Job Creation, Boston Common
 - May 9-10, Security Bsides Boston, Calling for papers
 - May 17th Together Boston Festival
 - May 18th Together Boston Cryptoparty, General Assembly, Boston
- Looking for hands on trainers
 
 - May 24th Boston Security Conference - James speaking at it
 - May 24th, March Against Monsanto, Boston
 - September 2014 Conference - Need location & date before May 9th
 
Participants
Place holder
- Bluelustreak (Lucia Fiero)
 - srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA)
 - PLantzz (Leilani Mroczkowski, Somerville, MA)
 - K`Tetch (Andrew Norton, Monticello, GA - USPP Vice Chairman)
 - ajehals (Andy Halsall, Sheffield, UK (just observing))
 - Kendra
 - tsygrl
 - jokeefe (James O'Keefe, Somerville)
 
Observers:
- davidd
 - ageis
 - zby
 
Summary
Updated fundraiser notes: https://piratenpad.de/p/Fun-Raiser-20plans
Cryptoparty @ PAX: Saturday noon - 4pm
Meeting Minutes
21:01 < srevilak> Intros: 21:01 < Bluelustreak> You ROCK 21:01 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlintgon, MA 21:01 < Bluelustreak> Lucia Fiero 21:01 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA 21:01 < Bluelustreak> ID pls 21:01 < Plantzz> Leilani Mroczkowski, Somerville, MA 21:02 < K`Tetch> Andrew Norton, shady Dale, GA - USPP Vice Chairman 21:02 < ajehals> Andy Halsall, Sheffield, UK (just observing) 21:02 < Bluelustreak> Welcome observers 21:02 < Bluelustreak> Kendra! 21:02 < Bluelustreak> Howady 21:03 < Bluelustreak> Is there an agenda srevilak? 21:03 < K`Tetch> it was on twitter 21:03 < srevilak> https://masspirates.org/wiki/April_10th,_2014_IRC_Meeting#Participants 21:03 < srevilak> Looks like we're starting with Fundraiser 21:03 < Kendra> Hi Mass Pirates 21:04 < srevilak> Appears we have a DJ 21:04 < srevilak> Appears we have to decide on 1 of 2 performers 21:04 < Bluelustreak> I like Caitlin 21:04 < Bluelustreak> Also, Bobbi Niciosa volunteered to take care of food. 21:04 < srevilak> I know Noe is planning to attend. Hoping Joe will be there, so we can do a few minutes of "meet the candidates" 21:05 < Bluelustreak> I will follow up with Bobbi after PAX 21:05 < Kendra> Kendra Moyer, Highland Park, MI 21:05 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: thx. May want to have a few people helping Bobbi 21:05 < Bluelustreak> Sarah Francis DID volunteer (don't smack me Kendra!) 21:06 < Bluelustreak> Also, I planned on dooing food prep. 21:06 < Bluelustreak> so that would be 3 of us 21:06 * srevilak goes to examine pad @ https://piratenpad.de/p/Fun-Raiser-20plans 21:06 < Bluelustreak> Jamie has put the Kibosh on the Capioera group 21:07 < srevilak> While we're here, can we clean up logistics notes? 21:07 < Bluelustreak> they ant too much scratch 21:07 < Bluelustreak> More specifically? 21:07 < Plantzz> The fundraiser is Friday May 9th, right? What are y'all aiming to do with food? I might be able to whip something up 21:07 < Bluelustreak> OK, good. We need vegan options 21:07 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: specifically, remove things that are no longer relevant, add things that are relevant but missing 21:07 < Bluelustreak> Lots of the activists in the area are vegan. I'm not but there you go 21:07 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: are you coordinating food? 21:08 < Plantzz> feel free to shoot me an email lsmroczkowski32@gmail.com I can definitely do vegan 21:09 < srevilak> Plantzz: thx 21:09 < Bluelustreak> LOL! .... and... it's gone 21:09 < tsygrl> hi all 21:09 < Bluelustreak> ahoy tsygrl 21:09 < tsygrl> ;-) 21:09 < Bluelustreak> Ooh! KNOW! 21:10 < Bluelustreak> We need something simple to hand out at PAX east 21:10 < tsygrl> has an agenda been created for the meeting ? 21:10 < Bluelustreak> http://masspirates.org/wiki/April_10th,_2014_IRC_Meeting 21:10 < davidd> so if anybody is interested i uploaded the 15 minutes we were on one of the main talkshows of the netherlands 21:10 < Bluelustreak> I will SO beinterested AFTER PAX 21:10 < davidd> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwyWYdkdgdE&feature=youtu.be 21:11 < davidd> but it is all in dutch 21:11 < srevilak> q: a while ago, we set up time slots for the fundraiser; anyone recall where that list went? 21:11 < Bluelustreak> I will put that on my watch list ty 21:11 < K`Tetch> you talking leaflet, badge, sticker? geegaw? Bluelustreak? 21:11 < davidd> but our pirate owns the old guys 21:11 < Bluelustreak> we had a 1/4 page "save the date" 21:11 < Bluelustreak> handed out at the Activists' Ball but the date has changed since then. 21:12 < Bluelustreak> If someone could please throw together another 1/4 page, updated, and put it on the blog? I will print and guillotine and hand out 21:12 < K`Tetch> a more generic one might be better than - multiple uses 21:13 < Bluelustreak> Well, we HAVE a more generic one. I have a ton of them to hand out 21:13 < Bluelustreak> We have TONS ofe these http://www.masspirates.org//blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/PirateTrifold.pdf 21:14 < Bluelustreak> Speaking of which, it has been suggested we switch out the jolly roger graphic with a MPP flag graphic 21:15 < tsygrl> That's a great leaflet. 21:15 < Bluelustreak> Oh. Thanks. I had nothing at all to do with it :-D 21:15 < Bluelustreak> Except I paid for the latest run :-D 21:15 < tsygrl> I'm in VT - been trying to get pirates to run in the open Liberty Union primaries. 21:16 < Bluelustreak> COOL! 21:16 < Bluelustreak> I know someone who just moved to Brattleboro 21:16 < Bluelustreak> If you gimme your email, I will point her to ya 21:16 < tsygrl> marina@e271.net 21:16 < Bluelustreak> TY 21:17 < jokeefe> James O'Keefe, Somerville 21:17 < Bluelustreak> Ahoy, cap'n! 21:17 < tsygrl> ;-) 21:17 < srevilak> I've updated logistics notes at https://piratenpad.de/p/Fun-Raiser-20plans 21:17 < jokeefe> ahoy! 21:17 < Bluelustreak> Great flyer btw srevilak! 21:17 < srevilak> can you folks look them over? 21:18 < Bluelustreak> I have to add one thing: 21:18 < Bluelustreak> Sarah C implied that we sould use the library, too and I have been working on this guy... 21:19 < Bluelustreak> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Light-Painting-Portraits/269077289774224 21:19 < Bluelustreak> Very cool thing to do at night, and we could request a donation for his services or sumpin... 21:20 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: where would the light guy fit into the schedule? 21:20 < Bluelustreak> He would be on going 21:20 < jokeefe> so where are we in the agenda? 21:20 < Bluelustreak> I first experienced him at Dance Friday 21:20 < srevilak> jokeefe: Fundraiser logistics 21:20 < srevilak> https://piratenpad.de/p/Fun-Raiser-20plans 21:20 < Bluelustreak> He was in the lobby and as people took breaks from dancing they gave him a whirl 21:21 < srevilak> Bobbi and Plantzz offered to help w/food 21:21 < srevilak> we still have to choose between the two acts 21:21 < jokeefe> great! 21:21 < srevilak> In terms of acts, IIRC we had Andrew Parker-Renga and Caitlin Timmins 21:21 < Bluelustreak> It takes a little practice... I wasn;t go great at it https://www.flickr.com/photos/31759445@N06/13050996305/in/set-72157639572536263 21:22 < srevilak> vote one one? 21:22 < srevilak> vote on one? 21:22 < Bluelustreak> Sigh 21:22 < Bluelustreak> I like them both! 21:22 < srevilak> we have $200 budget for entertainment, and two hours 21:23 < Bluelustreak> More light portraits: https://www.flickr.com/photos/31759445@N06/sets/72157639572536263/ 21:23 < srevilak> thoughts on splitting the two hours, or picking one act? 21:24 < srevilak> jokeefe: you've spoken to the artists; what's your sense? 21:24 < jokeefe> I would like to wait a bit longer to hear from the others. at least through tomorrow 21:24 < srevilak> okay. Then let's defer 21:24 < Bluelustreak> I would like to wait until after PAX 21:24 < Bluelustreak> *waiting to exhale* 21:25 < srevilak> Re flyer: I'll update "register" url. And tweak layout (accidentally designed it around A4 rather than US letter) 21:25 < Bluelustreak> I won't wait until next IRC... I will send my news to the list 21:25 < jokeefe> they are both responsive. I would like to lock the schedule down, but I told them we would make a decision by next Thursday. Doesn't mean we can make it earlier. 21:25 < jokeefe> Haven't gotten rates for one of them. 21:25 < Bluelustreak> 1/4 page is what I need! 21:26 < srevilak> jokeefe: ok 21:26 < jokeefe> Chris Reynolds won't know until he a week before. So we can just fit him in. 21:26 < srevilak> ok 21:26 < srevilak> Is Joe Planning to attend? 21:27 < jokeefe> I know Noe is 21:27 < Bluelustreak> OK I hate to put the boy down 21:27 < srevilak> Alright - will follow up with Joe 21:27 < Bluelustreak> But he just isn't trying 21:27 < Bluelustreak> BUT... 21:27 < Bluelustreak> AFTER PAX... 21:28 < srevilak> ok 21:28 < Bluelustreak> Jason and I will be collecting for him again 21:28 < jokeefe> srevilak, like your flier, but needs to show rates before and after, but have fewer words. 21:28 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: before and after what? 21:28 < Bluelustreak> Honestly don't care if we cary him, I just haven't been well the past coupe weeks 21:28 < jokeefe> Bluelustreak, do you have any dates set for signature gathering? 21:29 < jokeefe> Need to plan when we can come out as well as get the word out. 21:29 < Bluelustreak> Jason has one week off: Vacation week. He and I were going to crank on that week. 21:29 < Bluelustreak> Not off, either, he will be working on site but in MA not NJ 21:29 < jokeefe> How many do you have so far? 21:29 < Bluelustreak> IDK how many Joe has but I don't think I have 20 21:30 < jokeefe> raw or validated? 21:30 < Bluelustreak> RAW 21:30 < srevilak> jokeefe: signature deadline is 4/29? 21:30 < jokeefe> yes 21:30 < Bluelustreak> Not impossible. 21:30 < Bluelustreak> I am holding my breath until I get my boy through PAX... Huge undertaking for me 21:30 < srevilak> On weekends, that Gives us 4/13, 4/19, 4/20, 4/27 21:31 < Bluelustreak> Doing my best. 21:31 < Bluelustreak> If you want to come out and help, great, if not, we will manage 21:31 < srevilak> will write Joe after IRC meeting 21:31 < Bluelustreak> THANK YOU! 21:31 < srevilak> are we set with Fundraiser? 21:31 < srevilak> (for now?) 21:31 < Bluelustreak> Don't know what he has been up to. He did not show for personal training today 21:32 < jokeefe> Think so. Need more details on food. 21:32 < Bluelustreak> and I PAY him for that 21:32 < srevilak> Plantzz: will write to you and bobby post IRC 21:32 < srevilak> (re: food) 21:32 < jokeefe> thanks 21:33 < jokeefe> On to 2014 Campaign 21:33 < srevilak> need to start publicizing soon, so we can get RSVPs and head count for food 21:33 < srevilak> yes -> 2014 campaign 21:34 < srevilak> I think we've got a rought status re: Joe. 21:34 < jokeefe> Noe has at least 113 validated signatures. With more being validated and others outstanding. Trying to wrap it up, but PAX will interfere. 21:34 < Bluelustreak> Yay Jamie and Noe! 21:34 < srevilak> jokeefe: can we bring a few forms to PAX. In case Villens show up? 21:35 < Bluelustreak> Villens? 21:35 < jokeefe> sure 21:35 < srevilak> villen = Somervillian 21:35 < jokeefe> yeah, that seems to be the term 21:35 < Bluelustreak> And I will have Joe's papers with me at PAX 21:35 < Bluelustreak> Ah 21:35 < jokeefe> Cambridge has Cantabridgians 21:35 < srevilak> Arlington has meat packers 21:36 < srevilak> :) 21:36 < jokeefe> I contacted all of the other potential candidates including meeting with one. I think we only have Joe & Noe unless someone wants to run for US House which has a later deadline. 21:36 < Bluelustreak> Too many sigs needed 21:36 < Bluelustreak> You know what? There's always local elections in 2015 21:36 < srevilak> how many signatures for state rep? 21:36 < Bluelustreak> I will run then if I don't get Joe on the ballot. 21:36 < Bluelustreak> 150 21:36 < Bluelustreak> sounds easy 21:37 < Bluelustreak> Lucky to get one in an hour, raw 21:37 < K`Tetch> go to pax and sign EVERYONE up you can 21:37 < Bluelustreak> PAX has ppl from all over 21:37 < K`Tetch> if they're not from Mass, hell, send em to cational, we'll sort em 21:37 < Bluelustreak> we can only get ppl from the districy 21:37 < Bluelustreak> 4 specific towns in MA 21:37 < srevilak> shall we move on to PAX / Cryptoparty? 21:37 < Bluelustreak> Yes pla 21:37 < Bluelustreak> pls 21:38 < srevilak> We have meeting place. Do we have times? 21:38 < Bluelustreak> Geez, another flyer would be ggod! 21:38 < Bluelustreak> I will be there all day tomorrow 21:38 < Bluelustreak> I could post/hand them out 21:39 < Bluelustreak> OMG I AM GOING TO BE THERE ALL DAY TOMORROW! 21:39 < Bluelustreak> (help!) 21:39 < srevilak> Yes, but I don't think we've decided on Sat. times for the Cryptoparty 21:39 < jokeefe> noon to 4pm? 21:40 < srevilak> Works for me 21:40 < Bluelustreak> Wow that long? 21:40 < jokeefe> noon - 3pm? 21:40 < Bluelustreak> noon to 4 is fine 21:40 < jokeefe> noon to 4pm it is 21:40 < Bluelustreak> Just... Shutting up now 21:40 < jokeefe> General Assembly/Together Boston Cryptoparty 21:40 < Bluelustreak> So srevilak if you throw together another lil flyer... 21:40 < jokeefe> Got four speakers. 21:41 < Bluelustreak> I will print and cut and trim and hand out 21:41 < jokeefe> ageis, you there? 21:41 < Bluelustreak> pagin ageis 21:41 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: sure. Can toss something together later tonight 21:41 < Bluelustreak> TYVM email me when done with link 21:42 < jokeefe> anyhow - for topics - have PGP, VPN, Jitsi (maybe), OTR (I could do that) 21:42 < Bluelustreak> Pinging KG on FB 21:42 < Bluelustreak> I cannot present you know 21:43 < Bluelustreak> Not this one 21:43 < Bluelustreak> Boy will have me flat out all w/e 21:43 < jokeefe> think 1hr 30 min sessions or 2hr session, srevilak? 21:43 < srevilak> 90 min seems better than 2 hours 21:44 < Bluelustreak> Agreed 21:44 < jokeefe> but is hands on. 21:44 < Bluelustreak> Breaks r good 21:44 < jokeefe> when we did the PGP one, we took all the time we had 21:44 < srevilak> How about this: schedule presentations in two-hour blocks, with goal of running 90-120 minutes 21:45 < srevilak> we can use time if we need it, or wrap up early if we don't 21:46 < jokeefe> sure, then we can do 3x2 sessions, and possibly have repeats 21:46 < srevilak> Date is May 18th (Sun), correct? 21:46 < ageis> jokeefe im here 21:46 < jokeefe> hey! 21:46 < ageis> sup 21:46 < ageis> I didn't like the idea of repeat sessions 21:46 < jokeefe> not sure if you are getting my email. wanted to know if you wanted to do a class at the 5/18 crypto party 21:46 < jokeefe> be hands on 21:47 < ageis> I replied to that. you never get my email for some reason 21:47 < ageis> im unable to confirm atm cause plans to fly to dallas next day. after April 29 I will know for sure cause my travel dates may adjust 21:47 < jokeefe> try jpokeefe@riseup.net 21:48 < Bluelustreak> try me: EMAIL REDACTED will relay 21:48 < ageis> so I'd appreciate if you leave a spot just in case. It looks likely that I can teach, I just cant solidly confirm 21:48 < jokeefe> ok, thanks for the update. hope your trip goes well. how are things with BB? 21:48 < Bluelustreak> That would be great, ageis 21:48 < ageis> good 21:48 < jokeefe> sure, we can hold a spot. If you can, great. if not, will adjust. 21:49 * srevilak can wing it an fill in for ageis if needed 21:49 < jokeefe> thanks 21:49 < jokeefe> Moving on to Tech Issues 21:49 < jokeefe> voter reg. on hold 21:50 < jokeefe> Heartbleed affected us, though no more than we were before SSL. 21:50 < srevilak> well, I'm not so sure 21:50 < jokeefe> oh? 21:50 < srevilak> co-worker got their hands on a proof of concept exploit script, and ran it against web servers of a large commercial email provider 21:51 < srevilak> exploit handed back up to 64 of raw memory. 21:51 < jokeefe> oh, I meant our site. everyone else is screwed up. 21:51 < srevilak> That's the thing. If an SSL site is on same host as your site, 21:51 < jokeefe> rinse repeat, gets you more than 64 21:52 < jokeefe> they aren't segregated? 21:52 < srevilak> right - 64k of stuff that happened to be in server's memory, from any site it's hosting 21:52 < srevilak> that's true - each site runs as a separate user id process 21:52 < tsygrl> What really sucked was tor hidden services have to generate new keys. 21:53 < tsygrl> including .onion hostnames 21:53 < Bluelustreak> Um.. do I need to change my blog pw? 21:53 < ageis> yep we've been doing that for securedrop (I work at FreedomofPress) 21:53 < Bluelustreak> Because I haven't. 21:53 < jokeefe> yes, Bluelustreak 21:53 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: to be safe, you should probably change every password you have 21:53 < ageis> my own webserver was vuln too. ive collected a few different proof of concept scripts in diff languages 21:53 < Bluelustreak> Doing it now 21:53 < tsygrl> I have one cert left to dump - my private outgoing email cert. 21:53 < jokeefe> srevilak, we have a new cert? 21:54 < srevilak> my co-worker claims to have gotten other peoples credentials. Happened to be in POST string that was still in memory 21:54 < ageis> srevilak: not surprising! 21:54 < ageis> certs need to be re-keyed, not just re-issued 21:54 < srevilak> jokeefe: not yet. I continue to be involved in MFPL cleanup 21:54 < srevilak> ageis: correct. Great time to add more bits to your key :) 21:55 < tsygrl> 'the intercept' changed their onion address just a few hours after heartbleed was announced. 21:55 < ageis> and enable perfect forward secrecy, HSTS and all that good stuff 21:55 < jokeefe> BTW: here is a list of tested sites https://github.com/musalbas/heartbleed-masstest/blob/master/top10000.txt?_ga=1.13854263.1609324084.1397181278 21:55 < ageis> tsygrl: yeah, im involved in updating the securedrop instances with new onion URLs 21:55 < srevilak> MFPL uses PFS. 77 vulnerable servers, half of which were only vulnerable for a few days 21:55 < jokeefe> OOOO FIDO not vulnerable 21:56 < srevilak> Ours, unfortunately, was vulnerable for two months 21:56 < srevilak> will get cert done after PAX. 21:56 < ageis> funny, I upgraded some servers from squeeze to wheezy just a few weeks ago, thus from openssl 0.9.8 to 1.0.1-so werent vulnerable until recently 21:56 < ageis> CloudFlare also got ahead, if you use their SSL service they got you covered. 21:57 < Bluelustreak> OKAY now locked out of blog. 21:57 < jokeefe> ok, thanks, srevilak 21:57 < Bluelustreak> So PW reset, pls srevlak? 21:57 < Bluelustreak> Managed to screw up PW change 21:58 < srevilak> Bluelustreak: https://masspirates.org/blog/wp-login.php 21:58 < srevilak> click "Lost your password" 21:58 < srevilak> anything more on tech issues? 21:58 < Bluelustreak> Yes I had figured that out *tech challenged* 21:58 < jokeefe> Srevilak just checking - any progress on CiviCRM? ok if not. 21:59 < srevilak> jokeefe: will touch base with you later. Would like to move what I have to masspirates.net, and continue from there 21:59 < K`Tetch> are you locked into that now? 21:59 < jokeefe> voter app maybe in a month 21:59 < srevilak> K`Tetch: locked in to what? 21:59 < jokeefe> sure we can use mass pirates.net 21:59 < K`Tetch> civiCRM 22:00 < jokeefe> haven't tried it. 22:00 < srevilak> K`Tetch: not yet, but we're working on it 22:00 < K`Tetch> national's moving to the new PPUK NWP 22:00 < jokeefe> you have a better suggestion? 22:00 < jokeefe> what is that? 22:00 < K`Tetch> go to pirateparty.org.uk to see :-) 22:00 < K`Tetch> its a full-service pirate web system 22:01 < K`Tetch> membership, internal voting, documentation, etc. all in one 22:01 < K`Tetch> ajehals there is one of the architechts 22:01 < K`Tetch> erm, one of the main ones behind it 22:01 < ajehals> I'll take architect. 22:01 < jokeefe> link to it? 22:01 < K`Tetch> (been a long day, lots of foreign languages, can't spell) 22:01 < ajehals> www.pirateparty.org.uk 22:01 < ajehals> Although the back end is the useful bit. 22:02 < jokeefe> we tried liquid feedback, but couldn't get it to move issues out of the first state and support wasn't easy to get 22:02 < ajehals> jokeefe: PPUK looked at it too, decided against. 22:02 < K`Tetch> I've been using it for 2 weeks now (in my position as ppuk governor and co-press-head) and it's wonderful 22:02 < ajehals> working with Lancaster university to build policy beta. - have a 10k grant. 22:02 < ajehals> see http://www.catalystproject.org.uk/projects/launchpads/policy-beta/ 22:03 < srevilak> ajehals: i see pirateparty.org.uk is a drupal site. Did you write your own modules? 22:03 < srevilak> And - can one get a copy of your theme? 22:03 < ajehals> nope, spent 18 months patching existing. Better use of volunteer time 22:03 < K`Tetch> I'll have a copy of the theme and stuff sometime next week 22:03 < jokeefe> so where do we download to take a look at the code? 22:04 < ajehals> srevilak: yeah, although we were hoping for 30 days to review and tweak before releasing. 22:04 < ajehals> You can have and advance though! 22:04 < K`Tetch> I mainly brought it up as an option since national's going to it 22:05 < K`Tetch> and in case you were unaware 22:05 < Bluelustreak> So long as it's free to use! 22:05 < srevilak> ajehals: would be happy to beta test 22:05 < K`Tetch> the plan is github, right? 22:05 < ajehals> srevilak: That would be ace and yes, the plan is github 22:05 < ajehals> its all FOSS anyway. 22:05 < ajehals> The complex part is config. 22:05 < Bluelustreak> Yay 22:06 < srevilak> ajehals: config is _always_ the complex part :) 22:06 < jokeefe> yes 22:06 < ajehals> Indeed, but we've done that, so you can have that too. 22:06 < srevilak> github is fine. We can cut our own branch and track your upstream 22:06 < ageis> I didn't know baout PAX east 22:07 < ajehals> Works for me. I'll expect to see it fork fairly quickly, our requirements are going to be different. 22:07 < jokeefe> 72000 gamers 22:07 < srevilak> we're now at time 22:07 < jokeefe> yes we are. 22:07 < srevilak> Continue with Support, Outreach, Finances, or wrap up? 22:07 < jokeefe> lets do it quick 22:08 < srevilak> We have meeting with Lisa on 27th? 22:08 < jokeefe> we have a meeting on the 27th with an accountant who is going to talk with us about budgeting 22:08 < jokeefe> will record 22:08 * srevilak has meeting prep work to do ... 22:08 < Bluelustreak> Very sleepy 22:08 < jokeefe> aye. bank account the same? 22:08 < Bluelustreak> HUGE day tomorrow 22:08 < K`Tetch> ok, quick question - anyone with an iOS device who wouldn't mind reviewing an app for national (and of course, mass)? 22:09 < ageis> badges are sold out and I can't make it anyway but it looks like a blast 22:09 < Bluelustreak> Android here 22:09 < jokeefe> there are common spaces as well. 22:09 < srevilak> K`Tetch: sorry, no ios 22:09 < Bluelustreak> There are things you can do for free at PAX 22:09 < Bluelustreak> ageis, if intersted 22:09 < jokeefe> email me K`Tetch and will pass on the word 22:09 < K`Tetch> ok 22:09 < ageis> im headed down to NYC to hobnob with Greenwald and Poitras heh 22:10 < ageis> they are entering US for first time since Snowden 22:10 < jokeefe> remotely then? 22:10 < jokeefe> really? 22:10 < Bluelustreak> Jealous 22:10 < jokeefe> brave souls 22:10 < ageis> yes 22:10 < ageis> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/10/glenn-greenwald-return-laura-poitras-snowden_n_5125574.html 22:10 < tsygrl> I hope all goes well for them. 22:10 < Bluelustreak> Jason would ask to tag along but I need him here to help me with boy 22:11 < Bluelustreak> He is 15 min outside Manhattan ATM 22:11 < ageis> cool! 22:11 < K`Tetch> after what uk immigration did to Miranda, I'm surpriused greenwald's coming to the US 22:11 < Bluelustreak> lol 22:11 < jokeefe> hopefully they aren't whisked away to an undisclosed location, but if so call us and we will do our part 22:11 < tsygrl> Remember Brijitta Johsdottir came to the US just to see what would happen. 22:11 < ageis> hopefully. its unlikely but you never know 22:11 < Bluelustreak> Jason was at that! 22:12 < Bluelustreak> Finally warmed him up to Pirates. 22:12 < jokeefe> think she has done it twice 22:12 < Bluelustreak> He found Birgitta do impressive 22:12 < Bluelustreak> Kevin Gostola, too 22:12 < Bluelustreak> so 22:12 < Bluelustreak> not do 22:12 < jokeefe> we are at time and have exhausted our agenda. anything else need discussion? 22:12 < tsygrl> Well i have one thing. 22:12 < Bluelustreak> Pleasnt dreams? 22:12 < Bluelustreak> Doh 22:12 < K`Tetch> jokeefe - pm a sec 22:13 < Bluelustreak> go tsygril go 22:13 < tsygrl> I'm working with some folks in VT to set up a transparency op. 22:13 < jokeefe> k 22:13 < tsygrl> Hope to get a globaleaks/Securdrop set up. 22:13 < Bluelustreak> ok 22:14 < K`Tetch> oh, anyone thinking of dropping dropbox because of condi? 22:14 < Bluelustreak> Totally 22:14 < tsygrl> I'm looking for tech people or journalists who might be interested. 22:14 < Bluelustreak> Didn't use it much anyway 22:14 < tsygrl> ...and obviously out-of-jurisdiction hosting for website and hidden service. 22:14 < Bluelustreak> I know a couple of journos who might be 22:14 < jokeefe> I can neither confirm nor deny that I use dropbox, but won't be using them in the future 22:14 < Bluelustreak> LOL 22:16 < srevilak> motion to adjourn? 22:16 < tsygrl> ....so if there is anyone you might be able to point at me or point me @.. 22:16 < Bluelustreak> 2nd 22:16 < Bluelustreak> I will email you like I said 22:16 < tsygrl> marina@e271.net / catskillmarina@gmail.com 22:16 < jokeefe> thanks tsygrl 22:16 < tsygrl> ;-) 22:16 < jokeefe> all in favor? 22:16 < Bluelustreak> eamiling u nao... aye 22:17 < jokeefe> srevilak, would you post the minutes? 22:17 < Kendra> nite all 22:17 < jokeefe> aye 22:17 < jokeefe> night Kendra 22:17 < srevilak> jokeefe: sure, will post 22:17 < jokeefe> thank you 22:17 < Plantzz> goodnight 22:17 < Bluelustreak> Sweet dreams!