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== Review ==
== Review ==


## Feb. 14, WMass & dinner afterward. [https://www.facebook.com/events/476102632554226/ Facebook event].  [https://masspirates.org/crew/civicrm/event/info?reset=1&id=5 civi event]
# Feb. 14, WMass & dinner afterward. [https://www.facebook.com/events/476102632554226/ Facebook event].  [https://masspirates.org/crew/civicrm/event/info?reset=1&id=5 civi event]


== Decisions ==
== Decisions ==
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### Running campaigns - Noe
### Running campaigns - Noe
### Lightning talks - lisbon?
### Lightning talks - lisbon?
== Defer to next meeting? ==
# Establishing Regions?
# Establishing Regions?
## Swarmwise suggests dividing into 20-30 regions.   
## Swarmwise suggests dividing into 20-30 regions.   
## Jason worked on a first draft of a map which Jamie has expanded with this [[Region Proposal]].
## Jason worked on a first draft of a map which Jamie has expanded with this [[Region Proposal]].
# Restore the 4th Bills
## SD1546 Mandates Police Bodycams, protects data - [http://warrantless.org/2015/02/sd1546/ Summary], [http://warrantless.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/SD1546-An-Act-Promoting-Use-of-Body-Worn-Cameras-By-Law-Enforcement.pdf Bill text]
## HD430, Reining in Militarization in Massachusetts - [http://warrantless.org/2015/01/hd430/ Summary & Bill text]


== Events Summary ==
== Events Summary ==
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21:00 < srevilak> hi jokeefe and igel
21:01 < jokeefe> hi
21:01 < jokeefe> sorry, bit behind on getting the agenda out
21:02 < srevilak> No worries.  I think the weather has put all of
        us behind
21:04 < igel> hi all
21:06 < jokeefe> Agenda -
        https://masspirates.org/wiki/February_19th,_2015_IRC_Meeting
21:07 < jokeefe> ids - James O’Keefe, Somerville
21:07 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington
21:08 < jokeefe> anyone downloaded the 10million password file that got
        released to see if your (old) passwords are there?
21:08 < srevilak> no, but I'd be curious to look
21:08 < igel> yep
21:10 < srevilak> Provided of course, that looking won't get you slapped
        with CFCA violation
21:10 < srevilak> oops CFAA violation (computer fraud and abuse act)
21:10 < jokeefe> Yeah, been wondering about how the CFAA applies,
        especially when you can get time for linking to such data
21:11 < srevilak> exactly
21:11 < jokeefe> wonder if someone made a searchable database that you
        can put your ids into
21:12 < srevilak> https://haveibeenpwned.com/
21:12 < srevilak> This was demo'd at last weeks security meetup
21:12 < srevilak> Fellow from microsoft collects data dumps and pastes,
        extracts email addresses, and allows you to check for yours
21:12 < jokeefe> nice!
21:13 < srevilak> The speaker demonstrating this showed how her info
        was expatriated from Adobe
21:13 < jokeefe> like the top 10 breeches
21:14 < jokeefe> The WMass cryptoparty went well?
21:14 < srevilak> Yes, it was a nice event
21:15 < srevilak> 10 showed up.  4 from eastern MA, six from western
21:15 < srevilak> snow started falling about an hour before the event
        ended.  Slow ride home, but not bad
21:15 < srevilak> Space was good, and your projector worked just fine
21:15 < jokeefe> dinner cancelled?
21:16 < srevilak> No, we just did dinner quickly.  It was a pizza place
2--3 blocks away
21:16 < srevilak> I think we had 7 for dinner
21:16 < jokeefe> good.  what was the discussion like?
21:17 < srevilak> We were split over two tables.  At mine, we had a nice
        chat about this history of common law
21:19 < jokeefe> any idea how people heard about it?
21:19 < srevilak> Three (guy and two kids) heard about it from our
        mailing list, website
21:20 < srevilak> lisbon knows because he helped organize it
21:20 < srevilak> one fellow saw the ad on Craigslist
21:20 < jokeefe> is that in the report?
21:20 < srevilak> No, but can add
21:21 < jokeefe> thanks, we should make a point of asking if we can.
21:22 < jokeefe> Peace Parade & Worcester Cryptoparty posts up.  Have a
        sign up form for Peace Parade
21:22 < jokeefe> This time I hooked it into CiviCRM
21:22 < srevilak> nice!
21:22 < jokeefe> Wondering if we can setup a template that we can copy
        and modify instead of creating from scratch everytime
21:23 < srevilak> jokeefe: yes, there are templates.  Have to sit down
        and figure out how they work
21:23 < srevilak> If we get a pass on snowfall this weekend, planning
        to spend some time with civi
21:24 < srevilak> (as opposed to spending all day growing my snowpile)
21:25 < jokeefe> lol
21:25 < srevilak>
        https://social.mayfirst.org/file/purplebandanna-20150216-snowpile-eqfq.jpg
21:25 < jokeefe> might I come by and take a look at civi with you?
21:26 < srevilak> Sure.  Maybe after Allison's workshop at SPL?
21:26 < jokeefe> hope to go to that
21:26 < jokeefe> sounds good
21:27 < jokeefe> shovelling the roof, twice, was fun
21:28 < jokeefe> thanks for registering us for the pride parade
21:28 < srevilak> np
21:29 < jokeefe> PirateCon 2015  - Program
21:29 < jokeefe> Thinking that Pirate Strategy should be more of an
        open discussion
21:30 < jokeefe> maybe with an intro to pirate politics
21:30 < srevilak> Sounds good to me
21:31 < jokeefe> Any update on the other topics?
21:31 < srevilak> nothing from my end
21:31 < srevilak> sorry
21:33 < jokeefe> thanks, hopefully in the next two weeks
21:38 < jokeefe> Body Cams bill -
        http://warrantless.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/SD1546-An-Act-Promoting-Use-of-Body-Worn-Cameras-By-Law-Enforcement.pdf
21:40 < srevilak> thanks for pointer.  Will take me a little while to
        read through that
21:40 < jokeefe> Militarization bill is at
        http://warrantless.org/2015/01/hd430/
21:40 < jokeefe> Text is much shorter
21:42 < jokeefe> thought we could review the militarization bill at
        least - see what we think of it
21:43 < srevilak> I like Alex's bill -- it pushes the decision to the
        city/town's normal decision making body
21:43 < jokeefe> yes, and covers IMSI catchers
21:44 < srevilak> I notice that assault weapons aren't on the list
21:45 < jokeefe> or machine guns
21:46 < srevilak> Also, does it exempt state police?
21:46 < srevilak> (are the state police a "police department or regional
        police district"?)
21:46 < jokeefe> apparently
21:47 < jokeefe> since only city or town
21:48 < srevilak> I still support the proposed bill -- it's a positive
        step
21:50 < jokeefe> agreed.  still should bring those points up
21:52 < jokeefe> anyway, I can put posts up for each and solicit comments
21:52 < srevilak> sounds great!
21:53 < srevilak> I'll try to go through body camera bill over the next
        few days
21:53 < jokeefe> that is all I have for now.  Anything you want to
        bring up?
21:54 < srevilak> nothing at the moment.
21:54 < jokeefe> shall we adjourn?
21:54 < srevilak> igel: anything going on with you?
21:58 < srevilak> If nothing else, I motion to adjourn
21:58 < jokeefe> 2nd
21:58 < jokeefe> aye
21:58 < jokeefe> would you post the log srevilak?
21:58 < srevilak> will do
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Latest revision as of 22:00, 19 February 2015

Review

  1. Feb. 14, WMass & dinner afterward. Facebook event. civi event

Decisions

  1. Event Planning
    1. Mar. 15, Boston Peace Parade
    2. Mar. 22, Cryptoparty, Worcester
    3. Jun. 13, Boston Pride Parade
    4. Sep. 19 & 20, Freedom Rally - Can register now
  2. PirateCon 2015
    1. Program
      1. FOIA - Steve
      2. Open Gov. or Rethinking the City - Jamie
      3. Net neutrality - Lucia
      4. Income inequality - Steve
      5. Pirate Strategy - Jamie
      6. Building 3rd party coalitions - Noe
      7. Running campaigns - Noe
      8. Lightning talks - lisbon?

Defer to next meeting?

  1. Establishing Regions?
    1. Swarmwise suggests dividing into 20-30 regions.
    2. Jason worked on a first draft of a map which Jamie has expanded with this Region Proposal.
  2. Restore the 4th Bills
    1. SD1546 Mandates Police Bodycams, protects data - Summary, Bill text
    2. HD430, Reining in Militarization in Massachusetts - Summary & Bill text


Events Summary

  1. Mar. 15, Boston Peace Parade
  2. Mar. 22, Cryptoparty, Worcester
  3. Apr. 25, PirateCon 2015
  4. May 6, International Day against DRM
  5. May, Together Boston Cryptoparty?
  6. Jun. 13, Boston Pride Parade
  7. Jun. event?
  8. Jul. event?
  9. Aug. event?
  10. Sep., Freedom Rally
  11. Oct. event?
  12. Nov. event?
  13. Dec. event?

Every Thu., Digital Fourth meeting, 11:20am-1:30pm, Voltage Cafe, Third Street, Cambridge

Participants

  • jokeefe: ids - James O’Keefe, Somerville
  • srevilak: Steve Revilak, Arlington
  • igel

Observers

  • davidd
  • Pharyngeal
  • zby

Summary

Minutes

 
21:00 < srevilak> hi jokeefe and igel
21:01 < jokeefe> hi
21:01 < jokeefe> sorry, bit behind on getting the agenda out
21:02 < srevilak> No worries.  I think the weather has put all of
        us behind
21:04 < igel> hi all
21:06 < jokeefe> Agenda -
        https://masspirates.org/wiki/February_19th,_2015_IRC_Meeting
21:07 < jokeefe> ids - James O’Keefe, Somerville
21:07 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington
21:08 < jokeefe> anyone downloaded the 10million password file that got
        released to see if your (old) passwords are there?
21:08 < srevilak> no, but I'd be curious to look
21:08 < igel> yep
21:10 < srevilak> Provided of course, that looking won't get you slapped
        with CFCA violation
21:10 < srevilak> oops CFAA violation (computer fraud and abuse act)
21:10 < jokeefe> Yeah, been wondering about how the CFAA applies,
        especially when you can get time for linking to such data
21:11 < srevilak> exactly
21:11 < jokeefe> wonder if someone made a searchable database that you
        can put your ids into
21:12 < srevilak> https://haveibeenpwned.com/
21:12 < srevilak> This was demo'd at last weeks security meetup
21:12 < srevilak> Fellow from microsoft collects data dumps and pastes,
        extracts email addresses, and allows you to check for yours
21:12 < jokeefe> nice!
21:13 < srevilak> The speaker demonstrating this showed how her info
        was expatriated from Adobe
21:13 < jokeefe> like the top 10 breeches
21:14 < jokeefe> The WMass cryptoparty went well?
21:14 < srevilak> Yes, it was a nice event
21:15 < srevilak> 10 showed up.  4 from eastern MA, six from western
21:15 < srevilak> snow started falling about an hour before the event
        ended.  Slow ride home, but not bad
21:15 < srevilak> Space was good, and your projector worked just fine
21:15 < jokeefe> dinner cancelled?
21:16 < srevilak> No, we just did dinner quickly.  It was a pizza place
2--3 blocks away
21:16 < srevilak> I think we had 7 for dinner
21:16 < jokeefe> good.  what was the discussion like?
21:17 < srevilak> We were split over two tables.  At mine, we had a nice
        chat about this history of common law
21:19 < jokeefe> any idea how people heard about it?
21:19 < srevilak> Three (guy and two kids) heard about it from our
        mailing list, website
21:20 < srevilak> lisbon knows because he helped organize it
21:20 < srevilak> one fellow saw the ad on Craigslist
21:20 < jokeefe> is that in the report?
21:20 < srevilak> No, but can add
21:21 < jokeefe> thanks, we should make a point of asking if we can.
21:22 < jokeefe> Peace Parade & Worcester Cryptoparty posts up.  Have a
        sign up form for Peace Parade
21:22 < jokeefe> This time I hooked it into CiviCRM
21:22 < srevilak> nice!
21:22 < jokeefe> Wondering if we can setup a template that we can copy
        and modify instead of creating from scratch everytime
21:23 < srevilak> jokeefe: yes, there are templates.  Have to sit down
        and figure out how they work
21:23 < srevilak> If we get a pass on snowfall this weekend, planning
        to spend some time with civi
21:24 < srevilak> (as opposed to spending all day growing my snowpile)
21:25 < jokeefe> lol
21:25 < srevilak>
        https://social.mayfirst.org/file/purplebandanna-20150216-snowpile-eqfq.jpg
21:25 < jokeefe> might I come by and take a look at civi with you?
21:26 < srevilak> Sure.  Maybe after Allison's workshop at SPL?
21:26 < jokeefe> hope to go to that
21:26 < jokeefe> sounds good
21:27 < jokeefe> shovelling the roof, twice, was fun
21:28 < jokeefe> thanks for registering us for the pride parade
21:28 < srevilak> np
21:29 < jokeefe> PirateCon 2015  - Program
21:29 < jokeefe> Thinking that Pirate Strategy should be more of an
        open discussion
21:30 < jokeefe> maybe with an intro to pirate politics
21:30 < srevilak> Sounds good to me
21:31 < jokeefe> Any update on the other topics?
21:31 < srevilak> nothing from my end
21:31 < srevilak> sorry
21:33 < jokeefe> thanks, hopefully in the next two weeks
21:38 < jokeefe> Body Cams bill -
        http://warrantless.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/SD1546-An-Act-Promoting-Use-of-Body-Worn-Cameras-By-Law-Enforcement.pdf
21:40 < srevilak> thanks for pointer.  Will take me a little while to
        read through that
21:40 < jokeefe> Militarization bill is at
        http://warrantless.org/2015/01/hd430/
21:40 < jokeefe> Text is much shorter
21:42 < jokeefe> thought we could review the militarization bill at
        least - see what we think of it
21:43 < srevilak> I like Alex's bill -- it pushes the decision to the
        city/town's normal decision making body
21:43 < jokeefe> yes, and covers IMSI catchers
21:44 < srevilak> I notice that assault weapons aren't on the list
21:45 < jokeefe> or machine guns
21:46 < srevilak> Also, does it exempt state police?
21:46 < srevilak> (are the state police a "police department or regional
        police district"?)
21:46 < jokeefe> apparently
21:47 < jokeefe> since only city or town
21:48 < srevilak> I still support the proposed bill -- it's a positive
        step
21:50 < jokeefe> agreed.  still should bring those points up
21:52 < jokeefe> anyway, I can put posts up for each and solicit comments
21:52 < srevilak> sounds great!
21:53 < srevilak> I'll try to go through body camera bill over the next
        few days
21:53 < jokeefe> that is all I have for now.  Anything you want to
        bring up?
21:54 < srevilak> nothing at the moment.
21:54 < jokeefe> shall we adjourn?
21:54 < srevilak> igel: anything going on with you?
21:58 < srevilak> If nothing else, I motion to adjourn
21:58 < jokeefe> 2nd
21:58 < jokeefe> aye
21:58 < jokeefe> would you post the log srevilak?
21:58 < srevilak> will do
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