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== Reviews == | == Reviews == | ||
== Decisions == | |||
Decide where to donate anonymous $80 contribution to: | |||
* [http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=11243#.VfbG8BNViko Massachusetts Coalition for the Homeless] - 91.0% on services, Transparency Score of 78.00 of 100.00 | |||
* [http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=9400#.VfbHCxNViko Horizons for Homeless Children] - 75.6% on services, Transparency Score of 100.00 of 100.00 | |||
== Task Status == | == Task Status == | ||
* PirateCon 2015 Videos | * PirateCon 2015 Videos | ||
** Falkvinge Pirate Strategy video posted to Youtube | ** <strike>Falkvinge Pirate Strategy video</strike> - posted to Youtube (jokeefe) | ||
** Evan Greer talk (Bluestreak) | |||
* MAAPL form (srevilak, jokeefe, noe, ...) | * MAAPL form (srevilak, jokeefe, noe, ...) | ||
* Newsletter (Kendra, paper_waves, ?) | * Newsletter (Kendra, paper_waves, ?) | ||
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** Distribute | ** Distribute | ||
* Bills | * Bills | ||
** Video Tax Break - Hearing 9/22 - 9/15 advisory, 9/22 positions | ** Video Gaming Tax Break - Hearing 9/22 - 9/15 advisory, 9/22 positions | ||
** GMO - Hearing 9/22 - Participate in the main press conference | ** GMO - Hearing 9/22 - Participate in the main press conference | ||
* Media | * Media | ||
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** <strike>Email lists</strike> | ** <strike>Email lists</strike> | ||
** <strike>Ask for opinions on legislation (jokeefe)</strike> | ** <strike>Ask for opinions on legislation (jokeefe)</strike> | ||
** Local/regional contacts (jokeefe) - Regional page up. | ** Local/regional contacts (jokeefe) - Regional page up. Working on local pages. | ||
** TPP/ | ** TPP update (jokeefe) | ||
** CISA update (jokeefe) | |||
* Tech - [https://masspirates.org/wiki/July_11th,_2015_Tech_Meeting see for priorities] | |||
** Bitcoin + Credit card gateway in CiviCRM (srevilak, js0000, Kendra) | |||
** Improve UI navigation of wiki & expose more wiki bits on blog (Noe, jokeefe) | |||
** Allow distributed organizing on CiviCRM (and pointers to get started) (Kendra, srevilak, Chris, jokeefe) | |||
** js0000 and jokeefe will work on building a tool to manage twitter: | |||
*** <strike>design</strike> (jokeefe) - posted at [[Twitter API design]] | |||
*** coding (js0000 & jokeefe) | |||
** Forum (or needed now that lists are publicized?) | |||
* Materials | * Materials | ||
** Stickers (igel) | ** Stickers (igel) | ||
** Flyers | ** Flyers | ||
*** Need Freedom Rally flier | *** Need Freedom Rally flier | ||
*** Need update to general flyer | *** Need update to general flyer | ||
**** ideas: [https://www.pirateparty.org.uk/campaigns/activists/all-materials UK Pirate Party materials] / [https://www.pirateparty.org.uk/campaigns/activists/design design ideas] | **** ideas: [https://www.pirateparty.org.uk/campaigns/activists/all-materials UK Pirate Party materials] / [https://www.pirateparty.org.uk/campaigns/activists/design design ideas] | ||
* Policies update (jokeefe) | |||
** Check on the state of them | |||
** Write up doc on using git & commenting on & voting on changes. | |||
Tasks: [https://masspirates.org/wiki/To_Do_List_%26_Help_We_Need Wiki list], [https://piratenpad.de/p/2015_MAPP_Tasks PiratePad version]. | Tasks: [https://masspirates.org/wiki/To_Do_List_%26_Help_We_Need Wiki list], [https://piratenpad.de/p/2015_MAPP_Tasks PiratePad version]. | ||
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== Participants == | == Participants == | ||
* jokeefe | * jokeefe (James O'Keefe, Somerville) | ||
* bestpiggy (olivia píñeyro, Boston) | |||
* srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington) | |||
* benC (Ben Cook - Boston) | |||
* Kendra | |||
* Bluestreak | * Bluestreak | ||
* | * js0000 | ||
* | * noe | ||
=== Observers === | === Observers === | ||
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== Summary == | == Summary == | ||
We decide to make our $80 charity donation to Massachusetts Coalition for the Homeless. | |||
Jamie edited and posted video of Falkvinge's Piratecon 2015 talk. | |||
Next meeting, after reviewing the bills and other research, we will revisit what our position on the video game tax break will be. | |||
== Minutes == | == Minutes == | ||
<nowiki> | <nowiki> | ||
20:51 [Users #masspirates] | |||
20:51 [ davidd] [ jokeefe] [ Pharyngeal] [ srevilak] [ zby] | |||
20:53 < jokeefe> ahoy | |||
21:00 < srevilak> good evening | |||
21:00 < bestpiggy> hey all! | |||
21:01 < benC> evening crew | |||
21:02 < jokeefe> good evening | |||
21:02 < jokeefe> agenda - | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/September_14th,_2015_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:02 < jokeefe> ids - James O’Keefe, Somerville | |||
21:02 < benC> Ben Cook - Boston | |||
21:02 < jokeefe> Agenda look ok? | |||
21:03 < srevilak> agenda seems fine | |||
21:03 < bestpiggy> olivia píñeyro, Boston | |||
21:03 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington | |||
21:04 < jokeefe> Decisions - Decide where to donate anonymous $80 | |||
contribution to | |||
21:05 < benC> I like that Mass Coalition for the Homeless doesn't get | |||
any government grants | |||
21:05 < bestpiggy> I think Mass Coalition should get it | |||
21:05 < jokeefe> srevilak? | |||
21:05 < srevilak> I'm okay with Mass Coalition | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> As am I. | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> Lets go with that then. | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> Moving on to Task Status | |||
21:06 < srevilak> ok. Will send check to Mass Coalition, tomorrow or wed. | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> thank you | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> PirateCon 2015 Videos | |||
21:07 < jokeefe> Made some progress. Would likely make more if I had | |||
more disk space ;-) | |||
21:07 < benC> I have plenty of disk space, but I don't have much | |||
experience doing this kind of video editing | |||
21:07 < srevilak> I have a few more audio segments to do. Will try to | |||
get back 1--2/week | |||
21:08 < benC> Do we have really basic instructions on what we're | |||
looking for? | |||
21:08 < jokeefe> thanks, srevilak | |||
21:08 < jokeefe> benC - I have little experience, but I can put titles on. | |||
21:08 < jokeefe> What os are you running? | |||
21:09 < benC> I've got Debian and Windows 7 available | |||
21:09 < jokeefe> I found that the Falkvinge video had a lot of noise, | |||
so I had to correct that. | |||
21:09 < jokeefe> I think blender works on Linux, but I haven’t tried it. | |||
21:09 < benC> it definitely does | |||
21:10 < jokeefe> Video for adding titles to videos with blender - | |||
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw-Hjc496ng | |||
21:10 < jokeefe> How to add text in Blender's Video Editor - | |||
www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj80Z-LG27M | |||
21:10 < srevilak> jokeefe: is the edited version of falkvinge on MEGA. | |||
Would like to put it on archive.org | |||
21:11 < jokeefe> Yes it is | |||
21:11 < jokeefe> Will send you the link and post it on the page | |||
21:12 < jokeefe> Also Blender Reference Manual - Sound Editing | |||
https://www.blender.org/manual/editors/sequencer/audio.html | |||
21:12 < srevilak> jokeefe: thx | |||
21:12 < jokeefe> Video is at | |||
https://mega.nz/#!ropElQyA!lwgf1NBVSaFqT4E7B2Ye83aK3xnEvgMDpzrE-BSJ1-M | |||
21:13 < jokeefe> it is in mp4 format | |||
21:13 < jokeefe> Open Source is ogg, right? | |||
21:13 < benC> Yes, Ogg Vorbis or WebM would be free/open formats | |||
21:14 < jokeefe> Will see about converting | |||
21:15 < benC> Archive.org does a good job of automatically converting | |||
videos to multiple formats | |||
21:15 < srevilak> I was going to mention that: archive.org does format | |||
conversion | |||
21:15 < jokeefe> oh good | |||
21:15 < jokeefe> It is 5.16GB, btw | |||
21:16 < srevilak> merp, archive.org wants me to install a download client | |||
21:16 < jokeefe> ahoy Kendra & Bluestreak | |||
21:16 < srevilak> archive.org also seeds torrents | |||
21:16 < Kendra> hi all | |||
21:16 < Bluestreak> sup | |||
21:17 < jokeefe> Well, if you take on editing a video, just email it | |||
out that you are so we don’t have duplication of effort | |||
21:17 < jokeefe> | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/September_14th,_2015_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:17 < jokeefe> Wrapping up videos | |||
21:17 < jokeefe> from pirate con | |||
21:17 < jokeefe> MAAPL form - srevilak - report? | |||
21:18 < srevilak> have 6 pages of fields uploaded, and laid out into | |||
online questionairre | |||
21:18 < srevilak> online version is 26 pages long | |||
21:19 < srevilak> have done 11 pages worth of fieldname -> proper | |||
questions | |||
21:19 < jokeefe> are all the fields entered? | |||
21:19 < srevilak> doing a bit each night, should be done in a few days | |||
21:19 < srevilak> jokeefe: there are two more pages of fields. Joe Boyer | |||
will be sending me field specs | |||
21:20 < jokeefe> I can add a few if you want to send me a bunch. | |||
21:20 < srevilak> I'll send instructions offline | |||
21:21 < jokeefe> thanks, sounds like it is moving forward. is there | |||
any other help that is needed? | |||
21:21 < jokeefe> ahoy js0000 | |||
21:21 < jokeefe> agenda - | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/September_14th,_2015_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:21 < js0000> hi | |||
21:22 < srevilak> any help replacing field names with questions would | |||
help. But it's a one-person-at-a-time endeavor | |||
21:22 < jokeefe> is there a write up on how to do that? | |||
21:22 < srevilak> pmurad also envisioned extensive embedded help, but | |||
there's enough there for him to get started | |||
21:22 < srevilak> jokeefe: no write up, but I can put one together | |||
21:24 < jokeefe> up to you, if you think it would help. I know that my | |||
time is limited, unfortunately. | |||
21:25 < jokeefe> moving to Newsletter | |||
21:25 < jokeefe> Sorry, I haven’t been able to help much, Kendra. | |||
Will have time later in the week and the weekend. | |||
21:26 < jokeefe> any luck with the update to 1.4.5? | |||
21:27 < noe> ahoy! | |||
21:27 < jokeefe> ahoy noe | |||
21:27 < Kendra> Hi, I had to reinstall Scribus and need to adjust | |||
some fonts. Do we have a fianl deadline or maybe for the Freedom Rally | |||
something printed? | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> I think it is too long to give out at Freedom Rally | |||
21:28 < Kendra> I might add up. | |||
21:28 < Kendra> printing costs | |||
21:29 < jokeefe> Probably distribute as pdf | |||
21:29 < Kendra> My debian distro wont allow me to upgrad, or I could | |||
not figure out how to do it, but I can change it all to more common fonts. | |||
21:29 < Kendra> PDF distor is a good idea | |||
21:29 < jokeefe> What is the highest version you can install? | |||
21:29 < noe> Hmm . . . is it possible to condense and make links to | |||
online pdf? Basically, headlines with little explanations and "for more | |||
see https://etcetcetc.org" | |||
21:30 < jokeefe> yes | |||
21:30 < Kendra> Ok we can think about something like that to link to | |||
the front page | |||
21:31 < Kendra> Anyone have any thing else to submit or add? | |||
21:31 < jokeefe> Possibly | |||
21:32 < noe> What I've seen on there looks good! If you want copyediting | |||
help, feel free to hit me up. | |||
21:32 < jokeefe> That would be great. | |||
21:32 < Kendra> Thanks Noe | |||
21:32 < noe> I'm not great at layout, but I can do words. | |||
21:32 < jokeefe> We have it up at an ownCloud instance. | |||
21:32 < Bluestreak> link? | |||
21:33 < jokeefe> download - https://owncloud.org/install/ | |||
21:34 < jokeefe> Suggest we move this to the list | |||
21:35 < Bluestreak> k | |||
21:35 < jokeefe> Bills - We have two hearings on 9/22 | |||
21:36 < jokeefe> Looks like the GMO is covered and we can join the | |||
statement on that one from multiple groups | |||
21:36 < jokeefe> The Video Gaming Tax Break I haven’t heard anyone | |||
talk about it | |||
21:37 < jokeefe> Thoughts on it | |||
21:37 < jokeefe> ? | |||
21:37 < Kendra> Do you get a tax break for playing or purchasing video | |||
games? | |||
21:37 < jokeefe> no comments yet on the bills | |||
21:37 < jokeefe> making | |||
21:37 < noe> LOL | |||
21:38 < Kendra> Or making them here in Massachusetts? | |||
21:38 < Kendra> Like teh film industry tax breaks | |||
21:38 < jokeefe> yes, making in MA | |||
21:38 < jokeefe> yes | |||
21:38 < jokeefe> not like everyone in MA gets them for free, unfortunately | |||
21:38 < noe> I think there was noise about this years ago. | |||
21:39 < jokeefe> maybe, might be a moot issue, don’t know | |||
21:39 < Kendra> Didn't some baseball player just waste a bunch of money | |||
in Conncticut doing something liek this? | |||
21:39 < Bluestreak> RI but yeah | |||
21:39 < Bluestreak> Kurt shilling | |||
21:39 < Bluestreak> Hollywood already gets breaks. | |||
21:40 < Bluestreak> They sell it to us as a jobs builder. | |||
21:40 < Kendra> I think the film tax breaks are not a good financial deal | |||
and the states almost always lose money on the film making incentives, | |||
Michigan paidout more than they brought in | |||
21:40 < noe> I know that smaller studios who do work for larger studios | |||
here would probably get a benefit, like Harmonix | |||
21:40 < Bluestreak> I don’t want to give Sony tax breaks | |||
21:40 < Kendra> Might be worth researching the outcomes | |||
21:40 < Bluestreak> they have enough money | |||
21:40 < jokeefe> RI lost $75 million backing 38 Studios with a loan | |||
21:41 < Bluestreak> Bam. See? | |||
21:41 < benC> industry tax breaks just shift jobs from one state to | |||
another | |||
21:41 < Bluestreak> Sick of being played like this. | |||
21:41 < jokeefe> Each MA job costs $108,000 | |||
21:41 < Kendra> They don't hire localy people as promised either, it's | |||
seems like an elaborate scam | |||
21:42 < jokeefe> Chris R said he would write a statement for us since | |||
he is a game developer | |||
21:42 < jokeefe> other opinions? | |||
21:43 < noe> I don't think we have enough development going on locally | |||
to support it. are we trying to lure other companies in? | |||
21:44 < jokeefe> that seems to be the idea, or encourage startups to | |||
come here | |||
21:44 < Bluestreak> I would support it for smaller developers, female | |||
developers, PoC develpers | |||
21:44 < Bluestreak> The big boys don’t need help. | |||
21:46 < Kendra> We need more info. It seems like a unstable industry. | |||
21:46 < jokeefe> Personally I don’t like tax breaks. If the government | |||
wants to subsidize something, then it should be paid for explicitly | |||
21:47 < jokeefe> What info do you want, Kendra? | |||
21:47 < srevilak> jokeefe: I agree (re: tax breaks) | |||
21:47 < Kendra> I am curious if these tax breaks have resulted in any | |||
measurable benefit to the people who pay for them. | |||
21:48 < Kendra> So far | |||
21:48 < jokeefe> The cost per job for the hollywood tax break is $108,000 | |||
21:49 < jokeefe> I very much doubt that someone working on the average | |||
job made that much in salary and benefits | |||
21:49 < srevilak> jokeefe: grips, best boys, etc make much less than that | |||
21:49 < jokeefe> It is a net loss and a subsidy to Hollywood | |||
21:49 < jokeefe> tis true | |||
21:50 < Kendra> That was the next question, even the person sweeping | |||
the set and emptying the garbage, and what about union employees such | |||
as SAG and AFTRA, etc, are thier wages under cut? | |||
21:50 < jokeefe> Don’t have that info | |||
21:50 < jokeefe> Baker had a study done | |||
21:50 < jokeefe> can find it | |||
21:51 < Kendra> That was all I was wondering | |||
21:51 < jokeefe> If there is some doubt we can do some research and | |||
revisit next meeting | |||
21:51 < noe> i think that's a good idea | |||
21:52 < Kendra> It's interesting to watch the tax break incentives for | |||
lotteries, casinos and now this stuff emerge | |||
21:52 < jokeefe> ok, so defered | |||
21:52 < noe> the more you spend, the more you save? | |||
21:52 < jokeefe> Media - noe any update on the media list? | |||
21:53 < jokeefe> We planned to send a PR out either by 9/22 or before | |||
Freedom rally | |||
21:54 < noe> Fish had to stop due to their own scheduling issues. | |||
21:54 < noe> Should I ask them for where they were at before they stopped | |||
and get it done? | |||
21:55 < noe> I think its the easiest thing at this point. I will try | |||
to get their work off of them this week. | |||
21:55 < jokeefe> thanks | |||
21:55 < jokeefe> please do | |||
21:55 < noe> all right! | |||
21:57 < jokeefe> Anyone have an update on the remaining task? | |||
21:57 < jokeefe> tasks | |||
21:57 < Bluestreak> Quick question: | |||
21:58 < jokeefe> yes? | |||
21:58 < Bluestreak> Joe G would like to read the video game bill… link? | |||
21:58 < Kendra> Sadly no other update, long week | |||
21:58 < jokeefe> both bills are at | |||
https://masspirates.org/blog/2015/09/12/state-house-bills-whats-your-opinion/ | |||
21:59 < Bluestreak> ty | |||
21:59 < jokeefe> under the ones to oppose | |||
21:59 < noe> https://malegislature.gov/Bills/189/House/H2487 | |||
21:59 < jokeefe> anything else anyone wants to bring up? | |||
22:00 < noe> That's the video game bill link. | |||
22:00 < noe> happy to be back from travelling! | |||
22:00 < jokeefe> also H.2606 | |||
22:00 < noe> excited to see people again soon. :) | |||
22:00 < noe> https://malegislature.gov/Bills/189/House/H2606 | |||
22:02 < noe> move to adjourn since we're at time. | |||
22:02 < noe> ? | |||
22:02 < srevilak> motion to adjourn | |||
22:03 < Kendra> 2nd | |||
22:03 < noe> all in favor? | |||
22:03 < srevilak> aye | |||
22:03 < benC> aye | |||
22:03 < noe> aye | |||
</nowiki> | |||
Latest revision as of 22:12, 14 September 2015
Reviews
Decisions
Decide where to donate anonymous $80 contribution to:
- Massachusetts Coalition for the Homeless - 91.0% on services, Transparency Score of 78.00 of 100.00
- Horizons for Homeless Children - 75.6% on services, Transparency Score of 100.00 of 100.00
Task Status
- PirateCon 2015 Videos
Falkvinge Pirate Strategy video- posted to Youtube (jokeefe)- Evan Greer talk (Bluestreak)
- MAAPL form (srevilak, jokeefe, noe, ...)
- Newsletter (Kendra, paper_waves, ?)
- Design & Feedback
- Distribution Planning (besides emailing a pdf)
- Gather list of people to mail it to (?)
- Gather a list of places to distribute it (?)
- Decide on the print run (?)
- Distribute
- Bills
- Video Gaming Tax Break - Hearing 9/22 - 9/15 advisory, 9/22 positions
- GMO - Hearing 9/22 - Participate in the main press conference
- Media
- Updated media list (fish/noe)
- Sep. - Freedom Rally - Release dates - 9/18 & 9/25 or 9/26 morning
- Oct. - Free Software & Innovation
- Nov. - 2016 Elections
- Dec. - ?
- Blog posts
Email listsAsk for opinions on legislation (jokeefe)- Local/regional contacts (jokeefe) - Regional page up. Working on local pages.
- TPP update (jokeefe)
- CISA update (jokeefe)
- Tech - see for priorities
- Bitcoin + Credit card gateway in CiviCRM (srevilak, js0000, Kendra)
- Improve UI navigation of wiki & expose more wiki bits on blog (Noe, jokeefe)
- Allow distributed organizing on CiviCRM (and pointers to get started) (Kendra, srevilak, Chris, jokeefe)
- js0000 and jokeefe will work on building a tool to manage twitter:
design(jokeefe) - posted at Twitter API design- coding (js0000 & jokeefe)
- Forum (or needed now that lists are publicized?)
- Materials
- Stickers (igel)
- Flyers
- Need Freedom Rally flier
- Need update to general flyer
- ideas: UK Pirate Party materials / design ideas
- Policies update (jokeefe)
- Check on the state of them
- Write up doc on using git & commenting on & voting on changes.
Tasks: Wiki list, PiratePad version.
Event Planning
- Sep. 22, 1pm, Public Hearing on Massachusetts GMO labeling bill (H.3242), Gardner Auditorium at the Massachusetts State House
- Sep. 26th & 27th, Freedom Rally - Sign up form - Planning - have asked for volunteers in email as well
- Sep. 30, 6-9pm, Somerville Cryptoparty, Parts & Crafts
- Oct. 3, 7-11pm, FSF 30th Anniversary Celebration, CIC Boston, 50 Milk St, Boston
- Oct. 13 (probably), Cory Doctorow Event - Working with other groups
- Oct. 28, 6-9pm, Somerville Cryptoparty, Parts & Crafts
- Nov. event?
- Nov. 25, 6-9pm, Somerville Cryptoparty, Parts & Crafts
- Dec. event?
- Dec. 30, 6-9pm, Somerville Cryptoparty, Parts & Crafts
Every Thu., Digital Fourth meeting, 11:20am-1:30pm, Voltage Cafe, Third Street, Cambridge
Participants
- jokeefe (James O'Keefe, Somerville)
- bestpiggy (olivia píñeyro, Boston)
- srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington)
- benC (Ben Cook - Boston)
- Kendra
- Bluestreak
- js0000
- noe
Observers
- davidd
- Pharyngeal
- zby
Summary
We decide to make our $80 charity donation to Massachusetts Coalition for the Homeless.
Jamie edited and posted video of Falkvinge's Piratecon 2015 talk.
Next meeting, after reviewing the bills and other research, we will revisit what our position on the video game tax break will be.
Minutes
20:51 [Users #masspirates]
20:51 [ davidd] [ jokeefe] [ Pharyngeal] [ srevilak] [ zby]
20:53 < jokeefe> ahoy
21:00 < srevilak> good evening
21:00 < bestpiggy> hey all!
21:01 < benC> evening crew
21:02 < jokeefe> good evening
21:02 < jokeefe> agenda -
https://masspirates.org/wiki/September_14th,_2015_IRC_Meeting
21:02 < jokeefe> ids - James O’Keefe, Somerville
21:02 < benC> Ben Cook - Boston
21:02 < jokeefe> Agenda look ok?
21:03 < srevilak> agenda seems fine
21:03 < bestpiggy> olivia píñeyro, Boston
21:03 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington
21:04 < jokeefe> Decisions - Decide where to donate anonymous $80
contribution to
21:05 < benC> I like that Mass Coalition for the Homeless doesn't get
any government grants
21:05 < bestpiggy> I think Mass Coalition should get it
21:05 < jokeefe> srevilak?
21:05 < srevilak> I'm okay with Mass Coalition
21:06 < jokeefe> As am I.
21:06 < jokeefe> Lets go with that then.
21:06 < jokeefe> Moving on to Task Status
21:06 < srevilak> ok. Will send check to Mass Coalition, tomorrow or wed.
21:06 < jokeefe> thank you
21:06 < jokeefe> PirateCon 2015 Videos
21:07 < jokeefe> Made some progress. Would likely make more if I had
more disk space ;-)
21:07 < benC> I have plenty of disk space, but I don't have much
experience doing this kind of video editing
21:07 < srevilak> I have a few more audio segments to do. Will try to
get back 1--2/week
21:08 < benC> Do we have really basic instructions on what we're
looking for?
21:08 < jokeefe> thanks, srevilak
21:08 < jokeefe> benC - I have little experience, but I can put titles on.
21:08 < jokeefe> What os are you running?
21:09 < benC> I've got Debian and Windows 7 available
21:09 < jokeefe> I found that the Falkvinge video had a lot of noise,
so I had to correct that.
21:09 < jokeefe> I think blender works on Linux, but I haven’t tried it.
21:09 < benC> it definitely does
21:10 < jokeefe> Video for adding titles to videos with blender -
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw-Hjc496ng
21:10 < jokeefe> How to add text in Blender's Video Editor -
www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj80Z-LG27M
21:10 < srevilak> jokeefe: is the edited version of falkvinge on MEGA.
Would like to put it on archive.org
21:11 < jokeefe> Yes it is
21:11 < jokeefe> Will send you the link and post it on the page
21:12 < jokeefe> Also Blender Reference Manual - Sound Editing
https://www.blender.org/manual/editors/sequencer/audio.html
21:12 < srevilak> jokeefe: thx
21:12 < jokeefe> Video is at
https://mega.nz/#!ropElQyA!lwgf1NBVSaFqT4E7B2Ye83aK3xnEvgMDpzrE-BSJ1-M
21:13 < jokeefe> it is in mp4 format
21:13 < jokeefe> Open Source is ogg, right?
21:13 < benC> Yes, Ogg Vorbis or WebM would be free/open formats
21:14 < jokeefe> Will see about converting
21:15 < benC> Archive.org does a good job of automatically converting
videos to multiple formats
21:15 < srevilak> I was going to mention that: archive.org does format
conversion
21:15 < jokeefe> oh good
21:15 < jokeefe> It is 5.16GB, btw
21:16 < srevilak> merp, archive.org wants me to install a download client
21:16 < jokeefe> ahoy Kendra & Bluestreak
21:16 < srevilak> archive.org also seeds torrents
21:16 < Kendra> hi all
21:16 < Bluestreak> sup
21:17 < jokeefe> Well, if you take on editing a video, just email it
out that you are so we don’t have duplication of effort
21:17 < jokeefe>
https://masspirates.org/wiki/September_14th,_2015_IRC_Meeting
21:17 < jokeefe> Wrapping up videos
21:17 < jokeefe> from pirate con
21:17 < jokeefe> MAAPL form - srevilak - report?
21:18 < srevilak> have 6 pages of fields uploaded, and laid out into
online questionairre
21:18 < srevilak> online version is 26 pages long
21:19 < srevilak> have done 11 pages worth of fieldname -> proper
questions
21:19 < jokeefe> are all the fields entered?
21:19 < srevilak> doing a bit each night, should be done in a few days
21:19 < srevilak> jokeefe: there are two more pages of fields. Joe Boyer
will be sending me field specs
21:20 < jokeefe> I can add a few if you want to send me a bunch.
21:20 < srevilak> I'll send instructions offline
21:21 < jokeefe> thanks, sounds like it is moving forward. is there
any other help that is needed?
21:21 < jokeefe> ahoy js0000
21:21 < jokeefe> agenda -
https://masspirates.org/wiki/September_14th,_2015_IRC_Meeting
21:21 < js0000> hi
21:22 < srevilak> any help replacing field names with questions would
help. But it's a one-person-at-a-time endeavor
21:22 < jokeefe> is there a write up on how to do that?
21:22 < srevilak> pmurad also envisioned extensive embedded help, but
there's enough there for him to get started
21:22 < srevilak> jokeefe: no write up, but I can put one together
21:24 < jokeefe> up to you, if you think it would help. I know that my
time is limited, unfortunately.
21:25 < jokeefe> moving to Newsletter
21:25 < jokeefe> Sorry, I haven’t been able to help much, Kendra.
Will have time later in the week and the weekend.
21:26 < jokeefe> any luck with the update to 1.4.5?
21:27 < noe> ahoy!
21:27 < jokeefe> ahoy noe
21:27 < Kendra> Hi, I had to reinstall Scribus and need to adjust
some fonts. Do we have a fianl deadline or maybe for the Freedom Rally
something printed?
21:28 < jokeefe> I think it is too long to give out at Freedom Rally
21:28 < Kendra> I might add up.
21:28 < Kendra> printing costs
21:29 < jokeefe> Probably distribute as pdf
21:29 < Kendra> My debian distro wont allow me to upgrad, or I could
not figure out how to do it, but I can change it all to more common fonts.
21:29 < Kendra> PDF distor is a good idea
21:29 < jokeefe> What is the highest version you can install?
21:29 < noe> Hmm . . . is it possible to condense and make links to
online pdf? Basically, headlines with little explanations and "for more
see https://etcetcetc.org"
21:30 < jokeefe> yes
21:30 < Kendra> Ok we can think about something like that to link to
the front page
21:31 < Kendra> Anyone have any thing else to submit or add?
21:31 < jokeefe> Possibly
21:32 < noe> What I've seen on there looks good! If you want copyediting
help, feel free to hit me up.
21:32 < jokeefe> That would be great.
21:32 < Kendra> Thanks Noe
21:32 < noe> I'm not great at layout, but I can do words.
21:32 < jokeefe> We have it up at an ownCloud instance.
21:32 < Bluestreak> link?
21:33 < jokeefe> download - https://owncloud.org/install/
21:34 < jokeefe> Suggest we move this to the list
21:35 < Bluestreak> k
21:35 < jokeefe> Bills - We have two hearings on 9/22
21:36 < jokeefe> Looks like the GMO is covered and we can join the
statement on that one from multiple groups
21:36 < jokeefe> The Video Gaming Tax Break I haven’t heard anyone
talk about it
21:37 < jokeefe> Thoughts on it
21:37 < jokeefe> ?
21:37 < Kendra> Do you get a tax break for playing or purchasing video
games?
21:37 < jokeefe> no comments yet on the bills
21:37 < jokeefe> making
21:37 < noe> LOL
21:38 < Kendra> Or making them here in Massachusetts?
21:38 < Kendra> Like teh film industry tax breaks
21:38 < jokeefe> yes, making in MA
21:38 < jokeefe> yes
21:38 < jokeefe> not like everyone in MA gets them for free, unfortunately
21:38 < noe> I think there was noise about this years ago.
21:39 < jokeefe> maybe, might be a moot issue, don’t know
21:39 < Kendra> Didn't some baseball player just waste a bunch of money
in Conncticut doing something liek this?
21:39 < Bluestreak> RI but yeah
21:39 < Bluestreak> Kurt shilling
21:39 < Bluestreak> Hollywood already gets breaks.
21:40 < Bluestreak> They sell it to us as a jobs builder.
21:40 < Kendra> I think the film tax breaks are not a good financial deal
and the states almost always lose money on the film making incentives,
Michigan paidout more than they brought in
21:40 < noe> I know that smaller studios who do work for larger studios
here would probably get a benefit, like Harmonix
21:40 < Bluestreak> I don’t want to give Sony tax breaks
21:40 < Kendra> Might be worth researching the outcomes
21:40 < Bluestreak> they have enough money
21:40 < jokeefe> RI lost $75 million backing 38 Studios with a loan
21:41 < Bluestreak> Bam. See?
21:41 < benC> industry tax breaks just shift jobs from one state to
another
21:41 < Bluestreak> Sick of being played like this.
21:41 < jokeefe> Each MA job costs $108,000
21:41 < Kendra> They don't hire localy people as promised either, it's
seems like an elaborate scam
21:42 < jokeefe> Chris R said he would write a statement for us since
he is a game developer
21:42 < jokeefe> other opinions?
21:43 < noe> I don't think we have enough development going on locally
to support it. are we trying to lure other companies in?
21:44 < jokeefe> that seems to be the idea, or encourage startups to
come here
21:44 < Bluestreak> I would support it for smaller developers, female
developers, PoC develpers
21:44 < Bluestreak> The big boys don’t need help.
21:46 < Kendra> We need more info. It seems like a unstable industry.
21:46 < jokeefe> Personally I don’t like tax breaks. If the government
wants to subsidize something, then it should be paid for explicitly
21:47 < jokeefe> What info do you want, Kendra?
21:47 < srevilak> jokeefe: I agree (re: tax breaks)
21:47 < Kendra> I am curious if these tax breaks have resulted in any
measurable benefit to the people who pay for them.
21:48 < Kendra> So far
21:48 < jokeefe> The cost per job for the hollywood tax break is $108,000
21:49 < jokeefe> I very much doubt that someone working on the average
job made that much in salary and benefits
21:49 < srevilak> jokeefe: grips, best boys, etc make much less than that
21:49 < jokeefe> It is a net loss and a subsidy to Hollywood
21:49 < jokeefe> tis true
21:50 < Kendra> That was the next question, even the person sweeping
the set and emptying the garbage, and what about union employees such
as SAG and AFTRA, etc, are thier wages under cut?
21:50 < jokeefe> Don’t have that info
21:50 < jokeefe> Baker had a study done
21:50 < jokeefe> can find it
21:51 < Kendra> That was all I was wondering
21:51 < jokeefe> If there is some doubt we can do some research and
revisit next meeting
21:51 < noe> i think that's a good idea
21:52 < Kendra> It's interesting to watch the tax break incentives for
lotteries, casinos and now this stuff emerge
21:52 < jokeefe> ok, so defered
21:52 < noe> the more you spend, the more you save?
21:52 < jokeefe> Media - noe any update on the media list?
21:53 < jokeefe> We planned to send a PR out either by 9/22 or before
Freedom rally
21:54 < noe> Fish had to stop due to their own scheduling issues.
21:54 < noe> Should I ask them for where they were at before they stopped
and get it done?
21:55 < noe> I think its the easiest thing at this point. I will try
to get their work off of them this week.
21:55 < jokeefe> thanks
21:55 < jokeefe> please do
21:55 < noe> all right!
21:57 < jokeefe> Anyone have an update on the remaining task?
21:57 < jokeefe> tasks
21:57 < Bluestreak> Quick question:
21:58 < jokeefe> yes?
21:58 < Bluestreak> Joe G would like to read the video game bill… link?
21:58 < Kendra> Sadly no other update, long week
21:58 < jokeefe> both bills are at
https://masspirates.org/blog/2015/09/12/state-house-bills-whats-your-opinion/
21:59 < Bluestreak> ty
21:59 < jokeefe> under the ones to oppose
21:59 < noe> https://malegislature.gov/Bills/189/House/H2487
21:59 < jokeefe> anything else anyone wants to bring up?
22:00 < noe> That's the video game bill link.
22:00 < noe> happy to be back from travelling!
22:00 < jokeefe> also H.2606
22:00 < noe> excited to see people again soon. :)
22:00 < noe> https://malegislature.gov/Bills/189/House/H2606
22:02 < noe> move to adjourn since we're at time.
22:02 < noe> ?
22:02 < srevilak> motion to adjourn
22:03 < Kendra> 2nd
22:03 < noe> all in favor?
22:03 < srevilak> aye
22:03 < benC> aye
22:03 < noe> aye