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=== Aaron James Campaign === | === Aaron James Campaign === | ||
* 8/13, 4pm, Going door-to-door (weekly) | * 8/13, 4pm, [https://www.facebook.com/events/512779558911529/ Going door-to-door] (weekly) | ||
* 8/30,6-9:30, [https://www.facebook.com/events/533158810206729/ Aaron James Event], The Somerville Armory, 191 Highland Ave, Somerville | * 8/30,6-9:30, [https://www.facebook.com/events/533158810206729/ Aaron James Event], The Somerville Armory, 191 Highland Ave, Somerville | ||
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It will run from noon-5pm. srevilak is checking on the availability of the Tent City Community Room. | It will run from noon-5pm. srevilak is checking on the availability of the Tent City Community Room. | ||
Democracy center's room rates are here: http://democracycenter.org/book-a-room | |||
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== Participants == | == Participants == | ||
* jokeefe | |||
* srevilak | |||
* moses | |||
* Kendra | |||
=== Observers === | === Observers === | ||
* davidd | |||
* pagegaai | |||
* igel | |||
* itspara_ | |||
* Velveeta_Chef | |||
== Summary == | == Summary == | ||
Pirate Picnic. Not our biggest turnout, but it was still a good event. The bananna bread was wonderful. Weather was good. | |||
Video streaming. Steve may have a workable solution with icecast. Still needs more testing, but holds promise. | |||
Aaron James Campaign. Going door to door every Saturday. We hit 100--150 houses last Saturday. Another campaign event on Aug 30th at the Somerville Armory. Overall, we've gotten positive responses when campaigning. | |||
Surveillance camera map. Some folks in Cambridge may use the map to advocate for fewer cameras. Jamie planning to write a simple set of instructions/how-to. An iphone and/or android app to simplify workflow would be nice. Will put out a call to volunteers, to see if anyone is interested in working on an app. | |||
Run for local office conference. In Boston area, tentatively Nov 12th. Possible resources: | |||
* https://www.mma.org/resources-mainmenu-182/cat_view/146-municipal-government | |||
* https://www.mma.org/resources-mainmenu-182/doc_download/26-form-of-government-for-each-community-in-massachusetts | |||
The latter lists which towns have representative vs open town meetings. | |||
Would like to work with moses to have a run for local office conference in western ma. | |||
https://calc.mayfirst.org/8wt0npgcy1 - start of work to assemble deadlines for the different municipalities. Steve will put out a call to pirate volunteers for research. | |||
Piratecon recordings. These are posted at https://archive.org/details/masspirates. Audio from municipal rights talk will go up this weekend. | |||
== Minutes == | == Minutes == | ||
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21:01 < jokeefe> Agenda - | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/August_9th,_2016_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:01 < jokeefe> ids | |||
21:01 <@papegaai> Title: August 9th, 2016 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki | |||
(at masspirates.org) | |||
21:01 < jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville | |||
21:01 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington | |||
21:03 < moses> Moses Sukin, Great Barrington | |||
21:03 < jokeefe> Review | |||
21:03 < jokeefe> Pirate Picnic | |||
21:04 < jokeefe> Good people, good food, more exhausted than last time | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> Anything else srevilak? | |||
21:06 < srevilak> I thought it was a nice event. Weather was good | |||
21:07 < jokeefe> That it was | |||
21:07 < jokeefe> Video Streaming Update? | |||
21:08 < srevilak> Yes. | |||
21:08 < srevilak> Aaron had asked me about streaming his event on the | |||
30th, and Jamie was interested in streaming an event later this year | |||
21:08 < srevilak> So I've been working on this | |||
21:08 < srevilak> First finding: according to youtube's documentation, | |||
youtube live is RTMP only | |||
21:09 < jokeefe> ahoy Kendra | |||
21:09 < Kendra> Hi, Kendra Moyer in Highland Park, MI | |||
21:09 < srevilak> RTMP = real time messaging protocol, a quasi-proprietary | |||
protocol from Macromedia/Adobe | |||
21:09 < srevilak> Essentially, it's flash video | |||
21:09 < srevilak> Codec wise, it's H.264 + AAC, which is a bit of a pain | |||
to do on a linux box | |||
21:10 < srevilak> I've also been experimenting with icecast, and figured | |||
out how to get a decent video stream from it | |||
21:10 < srevilak> The trick is bursting a lot of data after the initial | |||
client connection; fill the client buffer, so it can start playback | |||
right away | |||
21:11 < srevilak> https://support.mayfirst.org/ticket/12010 is my plan | |||
to tweak mayfirst's icecast server for video delivery | |||
21:11 <@papegaai> Title: #12010 (a.stream.mayfirst.org (icecast) | |||
configuration tweaks) – Support (at support.mayfirst.org) | |||
21:11 < jokeefe> cool | |||
21:11 < srevilak> If that works well, we should be set for audio + | |||
video streaming | |||
21:11 < jokeefe> nice | |||
21:11 < srevilak> So far, I've had luck with a dev icecast server. | |||
Will be able to try mf/pl's later this week | |||
21:12 < srevilak> As a fallback, I can also look into commercial icecast | |||
streaming services | |||
21:12 < srevilak> though I'm hoping we don't need them | |||
21:13 < srevilak> For posterity, the bottom of | |||
https://www.srevilak.net/wiki/Linux_Audio_and_Streaming#gstreamer is | |||
what we used to stream piratecon | |||
21:13 <@papegaai> Title: Linux Audio and Streaming - srevilak.net | |||
(at www.srevilak.net) | |||
21:13 < jokeefe> Kendra - Agenda - | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/August_9th,_2016_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:13 <@papegaai> Title: August 9th, 2016 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki | |||
(at masspirates.org) | |||
21:13 < srevilak> (end of update) | |||
21:13 < jokeefe> thank you | |||
21:14 < jokeefe> Projects | |||
21:14 < jokeefe> Aaron James Campaign - going door to door on Saturday | |||
21:15 < jokeefe> continuing every weekend | |||
21:15 < jokeefe> And another campaign event on 8/30 they want to get | |||
people out to | |||
21:15 < srevilak> Last saturday, we hit 100--150 doors, in the highland | |||
ave/central street area | |||
21:16 < jokeefe> great | |||
21:16 < moses> how was the response? | |||
21:16 < srevilak> Most of the people I talked to were receptive. | |||
21:17 < srevilak> My 30 second pitch mentioned electoral reform (like | |||
ranked choice voting), and drug reform; putting more emphasis on getting | |||
people treated and productive in society, rather than incarceration | |||
21:17 < srevilak> The notion of winding down the war on drugs seems to | |||
get a positive response | |||
21:18 < moses> nobody likes a war on a noun | |||
21:18 < srevilak> :) | |||
21:18 < jokeefe> ;-) | |||
21:19 < jokeefe> Surveillance camera map | |||
21:20 < jokeefe> Some folks in Cambridge may use the data to advocate | |||
for limits on cameras. Working on a single page how-to sheet for this | |||
weekend. There is an event that cryptoparty folks will be tabling at. | |||
21:21 < jokeefe> I continue mapping, but having more hands would help. | |||
Not seeing cameras in my sleep, but I do reflexively scan buildings for | |||
them when I am about. | |||
21:22 < jokeefe> If you know of anyone who does iPhone or Android | |||
programming, please send them my way | |||
21:22 < srevilak> jokeefe: perhaps we could inquire with the Pirate | |||
volunteers | |||
21:23 < jokeefe> yes | |||
21:23 < jokeefe> will get that request out | |||
21:23 < moses> that's Objective-c and java respectively? | |||
21:24 < srevilak> I believe so. THough iPhone might have some facilities | |||
for building apps in html5. not sure though | |||
21:25 < jokeefe> Swift is the new language for iPhone, but they still | |||
support Obj-C | |||
21:26 < jokeefe> A html5 app would be good as well. Browser independent. | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> Any how, will ask and see what responses we get | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> November: Run for local office conference | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> We talked about this at the pirate picnic | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> Tentatively Nov. 12 | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> focus on training/encouraging people to run for local | |||
office | |||
21:29 < srevilak> (I might be inclined to call it "conference" or "skill | |||
share" rather than "training") | |||
21:29 < jokeefe> Skill Share sounds good | |||
21:30 < jokeefe> Found this | |||
https://www.mma.org/resources-mainmenu-182/cat_view/146-municipal-government | |||
21:30 <@papegaai> Title: Massachusetts Municipal Association - Resources | | |||
Downloads | Municipal Government (at www.mma.org) | |||
21:30 < srevilak> Question for jokeefe and moses: would it be feasible | |||
to do two of these: one in eastern mass, and one in western mass? | |||
21:31 < jokeefe> Would get us out of Boston, which would be good | |||
21:31 < jokeefe> Would be willing to do one in Worcester, or elsewhere | |||
21:32 < jokeefe> Also this doc is useful - | |||
https://www.mma.org/resources-mainmenu-182/doc_download/26-form-of-government-for-each-community-in-massachusetts | |||
21:32 < jokeefe> Tells us which towns have representative town meeting | |||
21:33 < srevilak> jokeefe: I was actually thinking further west, like | |||
the Great Barrington Area. If moses would be able to help with the | |||
logistics and getting the word out? | |||
21:33 < srevilak> moses: wdyt? | |||
21:34 < jokeefe> I know, I was just saying that I would be happy to more | |||
than two skill shares | |||
21:34 < moses> yeah; the only thing is I don't think I feel confident | |||
enough to /run/ it | |||
21:34 < jokeefe> you wouldn’t be alone | |||
21:35 < srevilak> I'm willing to make a trip out there, and I'd even | |||
volunteer to moderate | |||
21:35 < moses> yeah, so you would basiclly just need a space to do it, | |||
fb page and some flyers right? | |||
21:35 < jokeefe> I will also come out. Would need a place/date. | |||
21:36 < jokeefe> Reach out to groups in the area | |||
21:36 < srevilak> And this is where we need moses :) | |||
21:36 < srevilak> moses: yeah, that's the basic idea | |||
21:36 < srevilak> space and publicity | |||
21:37 < moses> there aren't really "groups" out here. | |||
21:38 < Kendra> maybe thing about a library or community church for a | |||
location with an audience | |||
21:38 < jokeefe> Arise for Social Justice, perhaps | |||
21:38 < Kendra> Anywhere with a polling station for example | |||
21:39 < jokeefe> Can reach out to Green-Rainbows and Libertarians | |||
21:39 < srevilak> moses: I think that would be okay. If we could get | |||
a few people who were interested (or even on the fence) about running | |||
for local office, that would be a good outcome | |||
21:39 < jokeefe> Plus we have our list of people we can reach out to | |||
21:39 < moses> we might have more luck somehwere like amherst or | |||
Northhampton which is actually highly populated. somewhere where there | |||
are students. that said, I'd be happy to try to make it work out here/ | |||
21:40 < srevilak> moses: that would be great | |||
21:40 < srevilak> timing-wise, we were thinking post-election, but not | |||
conflicting with thanksgiving or xmas | |||
21:41 < srevilak> (or other december holidays) | |||
21:42 < srevilak> of course, we don't have to make a commitment tonight, | |||
but I think it's worth thinking about | |||
21:42 < moses> for sure! | |||
21:42 < jokeefe> agreed | |||
21:43 < srevilak> On the boston side, I thought I'd | |||
volunteered to find rates for democracy center. Here they are | |||
http://democracycenter.org/book-a-room | |||
21:43 <@papegaai> Title: Book a Room | Democracy Center (at | |||
democracycenter.org) | |||
21:43 < srevilak> Mandela room, 60 people, $75 | |||
21:43 < srevilak> Or, Rosa Parks, 30 people, $50 | |||
21:44 < srevilak> I can also inquire about tent city | |||
21:44 < jokeefe> We need to find out the rep. town meeting towns (about | |||
30), then get their dates for signatures and requirements and see if | |||
we are early enough or if we could do other skill shares elsewhere | |||
in Dec./Jan. | |||
21:45 < jokeefe> Smaller may be better. Could setup sign ups and see | |||
if we get enough to book a bigger venue | |||
21:45 < srevilak> jokeefe: in terms of getting town deadlines, might | |||
that be a good task for pirate volunteers? | |||
21:46 < jokeefe> yes | |||
21:46 < jokeefe> should put it up at https://calc.mayfirst.org/ | |||
21:46 <@papegaai> Title: EtherCalc - Share the URL to your friends and | |||
edit together! (at calc.mayfirst.org) | |||
21:46 < srevilak> Shall I contact democracy center, and try to make a | |||
reservation for Dec 12th? | |||
21:46 < srevilak> Shall I contact democracy center, and try to make a | |||
reservation for Nov 12th? | |||
21:47 < srevilak> jokeefe: I'll do setup, and send something to volunteers | |||
21:47 < jokeefe> Sure. Probably Rosa Parks room is enough. do they | |||
have tables? | |||
21:48 < srevilak> I will ask | |||
21:48 < jokeefe> Started https://calc.mayfirst.org/8wt0npgcy1 for the | |||
city/town listing | |||
21:48 <@papegaai> Title: EtherCalc - Share the URL to your friends and | |||
edit together! (at calc.mayfirst.org) | |||
21:49 < jokeefe> Move on to PirateCon Recordings? | |||
21:50 < srevilak> Here they are: https://archive.org/details/masspirates | |||
21:50 <@papegaai> Title: Massachusetts Pirate Party : Free Audio : | |||
Download & Streaming : Internet Archive (at archive.org) | |||
21:51 < jokeefe> Thanks! | |||
21:51 < jokeefe> and for the posts | |||
21:52 < jokeefe> Will ask noe about video recordings | |||
21:52 < srevilak> Terra's talk on municipal rights will go up this | |||
weekend. | |||
21:52 < jokeefe> did you have to clean up the audio that much? | |||
21:52 < jokeefe> thanks | |||
21:52 < srevilak> Each piece probably has 100+ edits. | |||
21:53 < srevilak> It's mostly removing p-pop's, "um", mouth noise, | |||
closing gaps, and dealing with questions that were asked off-mic | |||
21:53 < srevilak> Plus a round of noise reduction, limiting, and | |||
compression | |||
21:53 < srevilak> Editing time to run-time ratio is somewhere between | |||
2:1 and 3:1 | |||
21:54 < srevilak> which is more or less typical for speech editing | |||
21:54 < jokeefe> ok | |||
21:54 < jokeefe> thanks | |||
21:54 < jokeefe> anything else? | |||
21:55 < Kendra> motion to adjourn? | |||
21:55 < srevilak> Kendra: I heard one of the presidential candidates | |||
recently spoke in Detroit | |||
21:56 < srevilak> How'd that go down? | |||
21:56 < Kendra> Yeah I did not get to see that yet. | |||
21:56 < Kendra> I think I saw some protestors | |||
21:56 < Kendra> But not the speech. That athletic club had a $10,000 | |||
annual membership in 2001 | |||
21:57 < Kendra> It's not for the city folks | |||
21:57 < jokeefe> yes | |||
21:57 < srevilak> Wow, that's nearly $200/week | |||
21:57 < Kendra> It has to be ridiculous now, its near theOpera House, | |||
it is a very fancy men's club | |||
21:58 < Kendra> We had opera singer's stay ther | |||
21:59 < Kendra> There is a lot of inaccessible wealth in this city | |||
right now | |||
21:59 < Kendra> but we are at time | |||
22:00 < jokeefe> 2nd on the motion adjourn | |||
22:00 < jokeefe> all in favor? | |||
22:00 < srevilak> aye | |||
22:00 < Kendra> aye | |||
22:00 < Kendra> nite all | |||
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Latest revision as of 21:01, 9 August 2016
Review
- Pirate Picnic
- Video Streaming Update
Projects
Aaron James Campaign
- 8/13, 4pm, Going door-to-door (weekly)
- 8/30,6-9:30, Aaron James Event, The Somerville Armory, 191 Highland Ave, Somerville
jokeefe is working on the database and aims to get it done this week
Surveillance camera map
jokeefe will put together a flyer for using PushPin to map cameras for a cryptoparty table this Saturday. He will work on a how to video and email supporters about it.
There may be a focused effort on mapping the cameras in Somerville and Cambridge.
November Run for local office conference
At the Pirate Picnic we tentatively scheduled November 12th to be a Run for local office conference. The objective is to teach people to run for local office. There will be sessions on:
- running for representative town meeting
- running for town-wide and city elections
- what you can accomplish in local office.
We will reach out to other groups and see if they are interested in participating.
It will run from noon-5pm. srevilak is checking on the availability of the Tent City Community Room.
Democracy center's room rates are here: http://democracycenter.org/book-a-room
PirateCon Recordings
- Audio - srevilak has posted over half of the PirateCon talks
- Video - jokeefe is getting a copy of the videos from noe for upload
Upcoming Events
- 8/10, 11am-12:30pm, Digital Fourth meeting, Tatte Bakery & Cafe, 101 Main Street, Cambridge
- 8/27, 1-5pm, Boston Public Library Cryptoparty, Grove Hall Branch, 41 Geneva Avenue, Dorchester.
- 8/30,6-9:30, Aaron James Event, The Somerville Armory, 191 Highland Ave, Somerville
- 8/31, 6-9pm, Somerville Cryptoparty, 577 Somerville Ave., Somerville
- 9/17-18, Freedom Rally Table
- 9/28, 6-9pm, Somerville Cryptoparty, 577 Somerville Ave., Somerville
- Democracy/IT meeting
- WMass Cryptoparty
- How to file a FOIA request by Maya Shaffer
- 11/12, noon-5pm, Run for local office conference
Participants
- jokeefe
- srevilak
- moses
- Kendra
Observers
- davidd
- pagegaai
- igel
- itspara_
- Velveeta_Chef
Summary
Pirate Picnic. Not our biggest turnout, but it was still a good event. The bananna bread was wonderful. Weather was good.
Video streaming. Steve may have a workable solution with icecast. Still needs more testing, but holds promise.
Aaron James Campaign. Going door to door every Saturday. We hit 100--150 houses last Saturday. Another campaign event on Aug 30th at the Somerville Armory. Overall, we've gotten positive responses when campaigning.
Surveillance camera map. Some folks in Cambridge may use the map to advocate for fewer cameras. Jamie planning to write a simple set of instructions/how-to. An iphone and/or android app to simplify workflow would be nice. Will put out a call to volunteers, to see if anyone is interested in working on an app.
Run for local office conference. In Boston area, tentatively Nov 12th. Possible resources:
- https://www.mma.org/resources-mainmenu-182/cat_view/146-municipal-government
- https://www.mma.org/resources-mainmenu-182/doc_download/26-form-of-government-for-each-community-in-massachusetts
The latter lists which towns have representative vs open town meetings.
Would like to work with moses to have a run for local office conference in western ma.
https://calc.mayfirst.org/8wt0npgcy1 - start of work to assemble deadlines for the different municipalities. Steve will put out a call to pirate volunteers for research.
Piratecon recordings. These are posted at https://archive.org/details/masspirates. Audio from municipal rights talk will go up this weekend.
Minutes
21:01 < jokeefe> Agenda - https://masspirates.org/wiki/August_9th,_2016_IRC_Meeting 21:01 < jokeefe> ids 21:01 <@papegaai> Title: August 9th, 2016 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki (at masspirates.org) 21:01 < jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville 21:01 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington 21:03 < moses> Moses Sukin, Great Barrington 21:03 < jokeefe> Review 21:03 < jokeefe> Pirate Picnic 21:04 < jokeefe> Good people, good food, more exhausted than last time 21:06 < jokeefe> Anything else srevilak? 21:06 < srevilak> I thought it was a nice event. Weather was good 21:07 < jokeefe> That it was 21:07 < jokeefe> Video Streaming Update? 21:08 < srevilak> Yes. 21:08 < srevilak> Aaron had asked me about streaming his event on the 30th, and Jamie was interested in streaming an event later this year 21:08 < srevilak> So I've been working on this 21:08 < srevilak> First finding: according to youtube's documentation, youtube live is RTMP only 21:09 < jokeefe> ahoy Kendra 21:09 < Kendra> Hi, Kendra Moyer in Highland Park, MI 21:09 < srevilak> RTMP = real time messaging protocol, a quasi-proprietary protocol from Macromedia/Adobe 21:09 < srevilak> Essentially, it's flash video 21:09 < srevilak> Codec wise, it's H.264 + AAC, which is a bit of a pain to do on a linux box 21:10 < srevilak> I've also been experimenting with icecast, and figured out how to get a decent video stream from it 21:10 < srevilak> The trick is bursting a lot of data after the initial client connection; fill the client buffer, so it can start playback right away 21:11 < srevilak> https://support.mayfirst.org/ticket/12010 is my plan to tweak mayfirst's icecast server for video delivery 21:11 <@papegaai> Title: #12010 (a.stream.mayfirst.org (icecast) configuration tweaks) – Support (at support.mayfirst.org) 21:11 < jokeefe> cool 21:11 < srevilak> If that works well, we should be set for audio + video streaming 21:11 < jokeefe> nice 21:11 < srevilak> So far, I've had luck with a dev icecast server. Will be able to try mf/pl's later this week 21:12 < srevilak> As a fallback, I can also look into commercial icecast streaming services 21:12 < srevilak> though I'm hoping we don't need them 21:13 < srevilak> For posterity, the bottom of https://www.srevilak.net/wiki/Linux_Audio_and_Streaming#gstreamer is what we used to stream piratecon 21:13 <@papegaai> Title: Linux Audio and Streaming - srevilak.net (at www.srevilak.net) 21:13 < jokeefe> Kendra - Agenda - https://masspirates.org/wiki/August_9th,_2016_IRC_Meeting 21:13 <@papegaai> Title: August 9th, 2016 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki (at masspirates.org) 21:13 < srevilak> (end of update) 21:13 < jokeefe> thank you 21:14 < jokeefe> Projects 21:14 < jokeefe> Aaron James Campaign - going door to door on Saturday 21:15 < jokeefe> continuing every weekend 21:15 < jokeefe> And another campaign event on 8/30 they want to get people out to 21:15 < srevilak> Last saturday, we hit 100--150 doors, in the highland ave/central street area 21:16 < jokeefe> great 21:16 < moses> how was the response? 21:16 < srevilak> Most of the people I talked to were receptive. 21:17 < srevilak> My 30 second pitch mentioned electoral reform (like ranked choice voting), and drug reform; putting more emphasis on getting people treated and productive in society, rather than incarceration 21:17 < srevilak> The notion of winding down the war on drugs seems to get a positive response 21:18 < moses> nobody likes a war on a noun 21:18 < srevilak> :) 21:18 < jokeefe> ;-) 21:19 < jokeefe> Surveillance camera map 21:20 < jokeefe> Some folks in Cambridge may use the data to advocate for limits on cameras. Working on a single page how-to sheet for this weekend. There is an event that cryptoparty folks will be tabling at. 21:21 < jokeefe> I continue mapping, but having more hands would help. Not seeing cameras in my sleep, but I do reflexively scan buildings for them when I am about. 21:22 < jokeefe> If you know of anyone who does iPhone or Android programming, please send them my way 21:22 < srevilak> jokeefe: perhaps we could inquire with the Pirate volunteers 21:23 < jokeefe> yes 21:23 < jokeefe> will get that request out 21:23 < moses> that's Objective-c and java respectively? 21:24 < srevilak> I believe so. THough iPhone might have some facilities for building apps in html5. not sure though 21:25 < jokeefe> Swift is the new language for iPhone, but they still support Obj-C 21:26 < jokeefe> A html5 app would be good as well. Browser independent. 21:28 < jokeefe> Any how, will ask and see what responses we get 21:28 < jokeefe> November: Run for local office conference 21:28 < jokeefe> We talked about this at the pirate picnic 21:28 < jokeefe> Tentatively Nov. 12 21:28 < jokeefe> focus on training/encouraging people to run for local office 21:29 < srevilak> (I might be inclined to call it "conference" or "skill share" rather than "training") 21:29 < jokeefe> Skill Share sounds good 21:30 < jokeefe> Found this https://www.mma.org/resources-mainmenu-182/cat_view/146-municipal-government 21:30 <@papegaai> Title: Massachusetts Municipal Association - Resources | Downloads | Municipal Government (at www.mma.org) 21:30 < srevilak> Question for jokeefe and moses: would it be feasible to do two of these: one in eastern mass, and one in western mass? 21:31 < jokeefe> Would get us out of Boston, which would be good 21:31 < jokeefe> Would be willing to do one in Worcester, or elsewhere 21:32 < jokeefe> Also this doc is useful - https://www.mma.org/resources-mainmenu-182/doc_download/26-form-of-government-for-each-community-in-massachusetts 21:32 < jokeefe> Tells us which towns have representative town meeting 21:33 < srevilak> jokeefe: I was actually thinking further west, like the Great Barrington Area. If moses would be able to help with the logistics and getting the word out? 21:33 < srevilak> moses: wdyt? 21:34 < jokeefe> I know, I was just saying that I would be happy to more than two skill shares 21:34 < moses> yeah; the only thing is I don't think I feel confident enough to /run/ it 21:34 < jokeefe> you wouldn’t be alone 21:35 < srevilak> I'm willing to make a trip out there, and I'd even volunteer to moderate 21:35 < moses> yeah, so you would basiclly just need a space to do it, fb page and some flyers right? 21:35 < jokeefe> I will also come out. Would need a place/date. 21:36 < jokeefe> Reach out to groups in the area 21:36 < srevilak> And this is where we need moses :) 21:36 < srevilak> moses: yeah, that's the basic idea 21:36 < srevilak> space and publicity 21:37 < moses> there aren't really "groups" out here. 21:38 < Kendra> maybe thing about a library or community church for a location with an audience 21:38 < jokeefe> Arise for Social Justice, perhaps 21:38 < Kendra> Anywhere with a polling station for example 21:39 < jokeefe> Can reach out to Green-Rainbows and Libertarians 21:39 < srevilak> moses: I think that would be okay. If we could get a few people who were interested (or even on the fence) about running for local office, that would be a good outcome 21:39 < jokeefe> Plus we have our list of people we can reach out to 21:39 < moses> we might have more luck somehwere like amherst or Northhampton which is actually highly populated. somewhere where there are students. that said, I'd be happy to try to make it work out here/ 21:40 < srevilak> moses: that would be great 21:40 < srevilak> timing-wise, we were thinking post-election, but not conflicting with thanksgiving or xmas 21:41 < srevilak> (or other december holidays) 21:42 < srevilak> of course, we don't have to make a commitment tonight, but I think it's worth thinking about 21:42 < moses> for sure! 21:42 < jokeefe> agreed 21:43 < srevilak> On the boston side, I thought I'd volunteered to find rates for democracy center. Here they are http://democracycenter.org/book-a-room 21:43 <@papegaai> Title: Book a Room | Democracy Center (at democracycenter.org) 21:43 < srevilak> Mandela room, 60 people, $75 21:43 < srevilak> Or, Rosa Parks, 30 people, $50 21:44 < srevilak> I can also inquire about tent city 21:44 < jokeefe> We need to find out the rep. town meeting towns (about 30), then get their dates for signatures and requirements and see if we are early enough or if we could do other skill shares elsewhere in Dec./Jan. 21:45 < jokeefe> Smaller may be better. Could setup sign ups and see if we get enough to book a bigger venue 21:45 < srevilak> jokeefe: in terms of getting town deadlines, might that be a good task for pirate volunteers? 21:46 < jokeefe> yes 21:46 < jokeefe> should put it up at https://calc.mayfirst.org/ 21:46 <@papegaai> Title: EtherCalc - Share the URL to your friends and edit together! (at calc.mayfirst.org) 21:46 < srevilak> Shall I contact democracy center, and try to make a reservation for Dec 12th? 21:46 < srevilak> Shall I contact democracy center, and try to make a reservation for Nov 12th? 21:47 < srevilak> jokeefe: I'll do setup, and send something to volunteers 21:47 < jokeefe> Sure. Probably Rosa Parks room is enough. do they have tables? 21:48 < srevilak> I will ask 21:48 < jokeefe> Started https://calc.mayfirst.org/8wt0npgcy1 for the city/town listing 21:48 <@papegaai> Title: EtherCalc - Share the URL to your friends and edit together! (at calc.mayfirst.org) 21:49 < jokeefe> Move on to PirateCon Recordings? 21:50 < srevilak> Here they are: https://archive.org/details/masspirates 21:50 <@papegaai> Title: Massachusetts Pirate Party : Free Audio : Download & Streaming : Internet Archive (at archive.org) 21:51 < jokeefe> Thanks! 21:51 < jokeefe> and for the posts 21:52 < jokeefe> Will ask noe about video recordings 21:52 < srevilak> Terra's talk on municipal rights will go up this weekend. 21:52 < jokeefe> did you have to clean up the audio that much? 21:52 < jokeefe> thanks 21:52 < srevilak> Each piece probably has 100+ edits. 21:53 < srevilak> It's mostly removing p-pop's, "um", mouth noise, closing gaps, and dealing with questions that were asked off-mic 21:53 < srevilak> Plus a round of noise reduction, limiting, and compression 21:53 < srevilak> Editing time to run-time ratio is somewhere between 2:1 and 3:1 21:54 < srevilak> which is more or less typical for speech editing 21:54 < jokeefe> ok 21:54 < jokeefe> thanks 21:54 < jokeefe> anything else? 21:55 < Kendra> motion to adjourn? 21:55 < srevilak> Kendra: I heard one of the presidential candidates recently spoke in Detroit 21:56 < srevilak> How'd that go down? 21:56 < Kendra> Yeah I did not get to see that yet. 21:56 < Kendra> I think I saw some protestors 21:56 < Kendra> But not the speech. That athletic club had a $10,000 annual membership in 2001 21:57 < Kendra> It's not for the city folks 21:57 < jokeefe> yes 21:57 < srevilak> Wow, that's nearly $200/week 21:57 < Kendra> It has to be ridiculous now, its near theOpera House, it is a very fancy men's club 21:58 < Kendra> We had opera singer's stay ther 21:59 < Kendra> There is a lot of inaccessible wealth in this city right now 21:59 < Kendra> but we are at time 22:00 < jokeefe> 2nd on the motion adjourn 22:00 < jokeefe> all in favor? 22:00 < srevilak> aye 22:00 < Kendra> aye 22:00 < Kendra> nite all