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== Review == | == Review == | ||
=== Hearing for the Cambridge Surveillance Ordinance === | |||
== Endorsements == | == Endorsements == | ||
=== Mayfirst Elections === | |||
[https://vote.mayfirst.org/nominations/2016 Nominations] | |||
=== Chelsea Manning's Birthday === | |||
Chelsea Manning's Birthday is 12/17. What should we do for it? | |||
== Projects == | == Projects == | ||
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# 11/30, 6-9pm, [https://www.cryptoparty.in/boston DIGITAL SECURITY 101] (Somerville Cryptoparty) @ Sprout, 339R Summer Street, Somerville | # 11/30, 6-9pm, [https://www.cryptoparty.in/boston DIGITAL SECURITY 101] (Somerville Cryptoparty) @ Sprout, 339R Summer Street, Somerville | ||
# 12/10, James will appear on [https://www.twitch.tv/bth_radio The Show With BS], by [http://BeyondTheHorizonRadio.com Beyond the Horizon Radio Network] | # 12/10, noon, James will appear on [https://www.twitch.tv/bth_radio The Show With BS], by [http://BeyondTheHorizonRadio.com Beyond the Horizon Radio Network] | ||
# 12/10, 1-3pm, Democracy/IT meeting, Arlington | # 12/10, 1-3pm, Democracy/IT meeting, Arlington | ||
# 12/17, Chelsea Manning's Birthday | |||
== Participants == | == Participants == | ||
* jokeefe (James O’Keefe, Somerville) | |||
* srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington) | |||
* moses (Kendra Moyer, Highland Park, MI) | |||
* Kendra (Kendra Moyer, Highland Park, MI) | |||
* igel (william fleurant, arlington ma) | |||
=== Observers === | === Observers === | ||
* davidd | |||
* papegaai | |||
* Velveeta_Chef | |||
== Summary == | |||
Steve summarizes Cambridge City Council meeting, and handling of ACLU's surveillance policy proposal. | |||
We discuss votes for the Mayfirst leadership committee. | |||
Chelsea Manning's birthday is 12/17. There's a [https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/commute-chelsea-mannings-sentence-time-served-1 petition] to commute her sentence to time served. | |||
== Minutes == | == Minutes == | ||
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21:08 < jokeefe> agenda - | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/November_22nd,_2016_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:08 < jokeefe> ids | |||
21:08 < jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville | |||
21:08 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington | |||
21:08 < jokeefe> thanks for everyone’s attendence | |||
21:08 < moses> Moses, West Tisbury | |||
21:08 < Kendra> Kendra Moyer, Highland Park, MI | |||
21:09 < jokeefe> anything to add to the agenda? | |||
21:10 < moses> nay | |||
21:10 < srevilak> I can provide a review of Cambridge City Council meeting | |||
21:10 < srevilak> if that would be of interest | |||
21:11 < jokeefe> it would | |||
21:11 < jokeefe> why don’t we start with that then | |||
21:11 < srevilak> Okay, reviews ... | |||
21:11 < srevilak> This was my first cambridge city council meeting. | |||
I arrived at 18:40, I think that was shortly after the public comment | |||
portion of the meeting started | |||
21:12 < srevilak> A number of people spoke in favor of the ACLU | |||
Surveillance policy bill | |||
21:12 < srevilak> One fellow did a very nice job of explaining NSA | |||
capabilities, and basically saying "cambridge should not be a part | |||
of this" | |||
21:13 < srevilak> There were also items, re: sanctuary city and immigrant | |||
voting for local offices | |||
21:13 < srevilak> Many commenters spoke about >= 2 of these issues | |||
21:14 < srevilak> The council voted to send the surveillance policy to | |||
their ordinance committee for transcription | |||
21:14 < srevilak> I *think* that means, "to draft up as ordinanace" | |||
21:14 < srevilak> I presume that city council will get to review final | |||
draft, but I'm not sure | |||
21:14 < srevilak> Spoke with Alex and Kade afterwards. | |||
21:14 < srevilak> I'm interested in submitting a warrant article of this | |||
sort for arlington | |||
21:14 < srevilak> <end of summary> | |||
21:15 < jokeefe> thanks. yes, it would be good to get it in Arlington | |||
as well | |||
21:15 < jokeefe> Endorsements - Mayfirst Elections | |||
21:16 < jokeefe> srevilak - would you speak on it? | |||
21:16 < srevilak> Sure | |||
21:16 < srevilak> We are members of mayfirst, and they provide our mail | |||
and web hosting | |||
21:17 < srevilak> They're not an ISP so much as an activist group, | |||
which provides tech to other activist groups | |||
21:17 < srevilak> Organization has a 12-member leadership committee who | |||
makes a lot of the strategic decisions for the organization | |||
21:17 < srevilak> As members, we're entitled to vote for leadership | |||
committee members | |||
21:18 < srevilak> THere are six nominations, and five positions available | |||
21:18 < srevilak> https://vote.mayfirst.org/nominations/2016 | |||
21:18 < papegaai> Title: Nominations | MFPL Voting Site / PMEP Sitio de | |||
votación (at vote.mayfirst.org) | |||
21:18 < srevilak> I'd like to see us vote | |||
21:18 < srevilak> jokeefe: I think you'll have to submit the ballot, | |||
though | |||
21:18 < srevilak> I was hoping to talk about who we might want to support | |||
21:19 < srevilak> <end of intro> | |||
21:19 < jokeefe> I can post whatever we decide, though happy to forward | |||
any url on to you, srevilak | |||
21:20 < jokeefe> any recommendations, srevilak? | |||
21:20 < igel> william fleurant, arlington ma | |||
21:20 < igel> ahoy :) | |||
21:20 < Kendra> Is it a group vote? | |||
21:20 < srevilak> Kendra: yes, we have to vote as an organization | |||
21:21 * srevilak is also an individual member, who gets to vote in | |||
that capacity | |||
21:21 < jokeefe> ahoy igel | |||
21:22 < jokeefe> good to see Micky Metts as a nominee | |||
21:22 < srevilak> yes | |||
21:23 < jokeefe> discussion? | |||
21:23 < jokeefe> or is everyone still reading the bios? | |||
21:24 < srevilak> I have thoughts, but would like to let others speak | |||
first | |||
21:26 < moses> Ashley or Micky | |||
21:27 < Kendra> I know a few people. I think Alfredo should let s | |||
oMoyetomher assume leadership for this round, considering his other role. | |||
I'd vote for the other five, it seems like a small pool. | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> we can choose both, moses | |||
21:28 < Kendra> that should read he should let others be on the leadership | |||
committee due to his other prominent role at mfpl | |||
21:28 < Kendra> imo | |||
21:29 < moses> lovely! | |||
21:29 < jokeefe> ahoy Castaway | |||
21:29 < Castaway> Ahoy! | |||
21:30 < jokeefe> what is Alfredo’s other role at mfpl? | |||
21:30 < Castaway> I don't know? | |||
21:31 < srevilak> jokeefe: Alfredo is one of MF/PL's founders. | |||
21:31 < Kendra> it's complicated, but he is a co-founder and has also | |||
been a paid employee, I don't know if he is currently. But there is | |||
non-profit drama | |||
21:31 < jokeefe> was directing my question at Kendra, Castaway | |||
21:31 < srevilak> Regardless of LC position, he's likely to get a voice | |||
in the decision making process | |||
21:31 < Kendra> around how power is distributed over there | |||
21:31 < igel> Castaway: we're viewing | |||
https://vote.mayfirst.org/nominations/2016 | |||
21:31 < papegaai> Title: Nominations | MFPL Voting Site / PMEP Sitio de | |||
votación (at vote.mayfirst.org) | |||
21:32 < jokeefe> are any employees among the nominees. Kendra? | |||
21:33 < Castaway> Thanks | |||
21:34 < srevilak> jokeefe: AFAIK, MF/PL has three employees. None of | |||
them are running for LC in this election | |||
21:34 < Kendra> I can't say for sure, I kind of stopped paying attention. | |||
21:34 < igel> i know Micky does a bunch between fsf, boston linux | |||
usergroup and tons gnu/libre .. but Alfredo mission statement is | |||
well.. acclimated | |||
21:36 < jokeefe> any other discussion? | |||
21:37 < Kendra> Honestly, it will be a landslide for Alfredo due to his | |||
history with the organization. Micky has been more involved in the past | |||
few years and is very invested in worker owned tech coops | |||
21:37 < igel> also: socialism :) | |||
21:38 < Kendra> I don't know the others | |||
21:38 < srevilak> Another thing to consider: MF/PL is co-headquartered | |||
in NYC and Mexico City. | |||
21:39 < srevilak> IMHO, votes should have a mix of both regions | |||
21:39 < Castaway> What kind of tech coops? | |||
21:39 < Castaway> There’s a new nonprofit/PAC/501(c)4 called Rights | |||
and Democracy in Vermont and New Hampshire, how could this organization | |||
connect with MF/PL? | |||
21:39 < Kendra> web dev coops, but also things like equal exchange | |||
21:40 < jokeefe> https://mayfirst.org/en/index.html | |||
21:40 < papegaai> Title: May First/People Link (at mayfirst.org) | |||
21:40 < Kendra> worker owned cooperatives in general, but she is part | |||
of agaric drupal dev coop | |||
21:41 < Castaway> Cool. Thanks. More importantly, is there a national | |||
Pirate Party to help organize Pirate Parties in states that lack them? | |||
21:41 < Castaway> Like Vermont? | |||
21:42 < Kendra> we can add that to the agenda if you likr | |||
21:42 < Castaway> That would be great. | |||
21:43 < jokeefe> yes Castaway uspirates.org | |||
21:43 < Castaway> Vermont needs a Pirate Party, and Rights and Democracy | |||
might be able to connect with the New Hampshire Pirates. Are they active? | |||
21:44 < jokeefe> email info@masspirates.org and we can put you in touch | |||
with the Maine and NH pirates | |||
21:44 < jokeefe> thanks for joining us Castaway | |||
21:44 < Castaway> OK, thanks | |||
21:45 < Castaway> Thank you! | |||
21:45 < jokeefe> Any other discussion? srevilak, I believe you were | |||
holding off for others? | |||
21:46 < srevilak> I will second Kendra's opinion. Alfredo is one of | |||
the founding members, and will have a voice in the org regardless of | |||
whether he's on the LC | |||
21:46 < srevilak> I would vote for the other five | |||
21:47 < jokeefe> Seems like a reasonable view to me | |||
21:47 < jokeefe> so we have a proposal on the table to vote for all | |||
except Alfredo. | |||
21:48 < jokeefe> all in favor? | |||
21:48 < Kendra> aye | |||
21:49 < srevilak> aye | |||
21:49 < jokeefe> aye | |||
21:50 < jokeefe> any other? | |||
21:50 < jokeefe> ayes, that is? | |||
21:50 < jokeefe> any opposed? | |||
21:51 < igel> nay | |||
21:53 < jokeefe> thanks. Motion passes 3 to 1 then | |||
21:53 < jokeefe> Chelsea Manning's Birthday is 12/17. What should we do | |||
for it? | |||
21:54 < Castaway> Impeach Donald J. Trump? | |||
21:54 < srevilak> Petition to commute chelsea manning's sentence to | |||
time served | |||
21:54 < srevilak> | |||
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/commute-chelsea-mannings-sentence-time-served-1 | |||
21:54 < papegaai> Title: Commute Chelsea Mannings Sentence to | |||
Time Served | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government (at | |||
petitions.whitehouse.gov) | |||
21:55 < Castaway> Is there a deadline for pardons? | |||
21:55 < jokeefe> well, that has to be done by 12/14, so can also urge | |||
people to sign it, for what is it worth | |||
21:55 < Castaway> yes | |||
21:56 < srevilak> Castaway: deadline is probably 1/19, before new | |||
administration moves in | |||
21:56 < jokeefe> don’t think Trump will parson Manning, so last day | |||
of Obama’s term would be it for the next four years | |||
21:56 < jokeefe> pardon Manning, that is | |||
21:56 < Castaway> You mean 8 years, unless he's impeached | |||
21:57 < jokeefe> I remain optimistic | |||
21:57 < srevilak> 8 years, unless he's impeached, or doesn't win | |||
re-election built | |||
21:57 < srevilak> 8 years, unless he's impeached, or doesn't win | |||
re-election bid | |||
21:57 < Castaway> Has anyone seen reports of voter suppression among | |||
people of color? | |||
21:57 < jokeefe> he builds the best re-elections | |||
21:58 < Castaway> Ha, ha | |||
21:58 < srevilak> and makes China pay for them | |||
21:58 < jokeefe> what with the voter id laws, wouldn’t really be | |||
surprised | |||
21:59 < srevilak> According to | |||
http://billmoyers.com/story/2016-election-lawsuit-tracker-new-election-laws-suits-challenging/ | |||
21:59 < papegaai> Title: 2016 Election Lawsuit Tracker: The New Election | |||
Laws and the Suits Challenging Them - BillMoyers.com (at billmoyers.com) | |||
21:59 < srevilak> there was a bit of litigation around voting laws | |||
21:59 < jokeefe> thanks | |||
21:59 < Castaway> No, there was this insane program among Republican | |||
secretaries of state called Crosscheck, and it purged Uge numbers of | |||
voters from the voter rolls in swing states | |||
22:00 < jokeefe> we are almost at time, any other suggestions for | |||
manning’s birthday? | |||
22:00 < jokeefe> support letter writing campaign, donations to legal fund? | |||
22:00 < igel> yeah... in the VP-elect state | |||
22:00 < Kendra> sounds good | |||
22:00 < srevilak> jokeefe: yes. Or at least blog post | |||
22:00 < srevilak> I'll volunteer to draft one | |||
22:00 < jokeefe> thanks | |||
22:01 < srevilak> Also, do we want to do a post about noDAPL? | |||
22:01 < jokeefe> yes | |||
22:01 < igel> ^ | |||
22:01 < jokeefe> is my thought | |||
22:02 < jokeefe> anyone willing to draft a post on noDAPL? | |||
22:02 < srevilak> Am planning to go to Plymouth for day of morning. | |||
I'm sure I'll come away with something from that | |||
22:02 < Castaway> I hope you do write a post on noDAPL. I'll check the | |||
US Pirate Party website for info about organizing. | |||
22:02 < jokeefe> thanks. just put it up on an etherpad and we can | |||
make suggestions | |||
22:03 < Kendra> motion to ajourn | |||
22:03 < jokeefe> 2nd | |||
22:03 < Castaway> OK | |||
22:03 < jokeefe> all in favor? | |||
22:03 < Kendra> aye | |||
22:03 < srevilak> aye | |||
22:03 < jokeefe> Castaway - | |||
https://blog.pirate-party.us/we-need-you-here-are-some-tools/ | |||
22:03 < papegaai> Title: We need you! Here are some tools! | United | |||
States Pirate Party (at blog.pirate-party.us) | |||
22:03 < Kendra> nite | |||
22:03 < jokeefe> good night | |||
22:03 < srevilak> will post transcript | |||
22:03 < jokeefe> thank you | |||
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Latest revision as of 22:05, 22 November 2016
Review
Hearing for the Cambridge Surveillance Ordinance
Endorsements
Mayfirst Elections
Chelsea Manning's Birthday
Chelsea Manning's Birthday is 12/17. What should we do for it?
Projects
Cryptoparties
DIGITAL SECURITY 101 training at the Somerville Cryptoparty on 11/30
Campaign Workshops
Starting Local Chapters
Fundraising
- Mailing?
- Party?
CCTV Camera Map
Together Boston Meshnet
Upcoming Events
- 11/30, 6-9pm, DIGITAL SECURITY 101 (Somerville Cryptoparty) @ Sprout, 339R Summer Street, Somerville
- 12/10, noon, James will appear on The Show With BS, by Beyond the Horizon Radio Network
- 12/10, 1-3pm, Democracy/IT meeting, Arlington
- 12/17, Chelsea Manning's Birthday
Participants
- jokeefe (James O’Keefe, Somerville)
- srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington)
- moses (Kendra Moyer, Highland Park, MI)
- Kendra (Kendra Moyer, Highland Park, MI)
- igel (william fleurant, arlington ma)
Observers
- davidd
- papegaai
- Velveeta_Chef
Summary
Steve summarizes Cambridge City Council meeting, and handling of ACLU's surveillance policy proposal.
We discuss votes for the Mayfirst leadership committee.
Chelsea Manning's birthday is 12/17. There's a petition to commute her sentence to time served.
Minutes
21:08 < jokeefe> agenda - https://masspirates.org/wiki/November_22nd,_2016_IRC_Meeting 21:08 < jokeefe> ids 21:08 < jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville 21:08 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington 21:08 < jokeefe> thanks for everyone’s attendence 21:08 < moses> Moses, West Tisbury 21:08 < Kendra> Kendra Moyer, Highland Park, MI 21:09 < jokeefe> anything to add to the agenda? 21:10 < moses> nay 21:10 < srevilak> I can provide a review of Cambridge City Council meeting 21:10 < srevilak> if that would be of interest 21:11 < jokeefe> it would 21:11 < jokeefe> why don’t we start with that then 21:11 < srevilak> Okay, reviews ... 21:11 < srevilak> This was my first cambridge city council meeting. I arrived at 18:40, I think that was shortly after the public comment portion of the meeting started 21:12 < srevilak> A number of people spoke in favor of the ACLU Surveillance policy bill 21:12 < srevilak> One fellow did a very nice job of explaining NSA capabilities, and basically saying "cambridge should not be a part of this" 21:13 < srevilak> There were also items, re: sanctuary city and immigrant voting for local offices 21:13 < srevilak> Many commenters spoke about >= 2 of these issues 21:14 < srevilak> The council voted to send the surveillance policy to their ordinance committee for transcription 21:14 < srevilak> I *think* that means, "to draft up as ordinanace" 21:14 < srevilak> I presume that city council will get to review final draft, but I'm not sure 21:14 < srevilak> Spoke with Alex and Kade afterwards. 21:14 < srevilak> I'm interested in submitting a warrant article of this sort for arlington 21:14 < srevilak> <end of summary> 21:15 < jokeefe> thanks. yes, it would be good to get it in Arlington as well 21:15 < jokeefe> Endorsements - Mayfirst Elections 21:16 < jokeefe> srevilak - would you speak on it? 21:16 < srevilak> Sure 21:16 < srevilak> We are members of mayfirst, and they provide our mail and web hosting 21:17 < srevilak> They're not an ISP so much as an activist group, which provides tech to other activist groups 21:17 < srevilak> Organization has a 12-member leadership committee who makes a lot of the strategic decisions for the organization 21:17 < srevilak> As members, we're entitled to vote for leadership committee members 21:18 < srevilak> THere are six nominations, and five positions available 21:18 < srevilak> https://vote.mayfirst.org/nominations/2016 21:18 < papegaai> Title: Nominations | MFPL Voting Site / PMEP Sitio de votación (at vote.mayfirst.org) 21:18 < srevilak> I'd like to see us vote 21:18 < srevilak> jokeefe: I think you'll have to submit the ballot, though 21:18 < srevilak> I was hoping to talk about who we might want to support 21:19 < srevilak> <end of intro> 21:19 < jokeefe> I can post whatever we decide, though happy to forward any url on to you, srevilak 21:20 < jokeefe> any recommendations, srevilak? 21:20 < igel> william fleurant, arlington ma 21:20 < igel> ahoy :) 21:20 < Kendra> Is it a group vote? 21:20 < srevilak> Kendra: yes, we have to vote as an organization 21:21 * srevilak is also an individual member, who gets to vote in that capacity 21:21 < jokeefe> ahoy igel 21:22 < jokeefe> good to see Micky Metts as a nominee 21:22 < srevilak> yes 21:23 < jokeefe> discussion? 21:23 < jokeefe> or is everyone still reading the bios? 21:24 < srevilak> I have thoughts, but would like to let others speak first 21:26 < moses> Ashley or Micky 21:27 < Kendra> I know a few people. I think Alfredo should let s oMoyetomher assume leadership for this round, considering his other role. I'd vote for the other five, it seems like a small pool. 21:28 < jokeefe> we can choose both, moses 21:28 < Kendra> that should read he should let others be on the leadership committee due to his other prominent role at mfpl 21:28 < Kendra> imo 21:29 < moses> lovely! 21:29 < jokeefe> ahoy Castaway 21:29 < Castaway> Ahoy! 21:30 < jokeefe> what is Alfredo’s other role at mfpl? 21:30 < Castaway> I don't know? 21:31 < srevilak> jokeefe: Alfredo is one of MF/PL's founders. 21:31 < Kendra> it's complicated, but he is a co-founder and has also been a paid employee, I don't know if he is currently. But there is non-profit drama 21:31 < jokeefe> was directing my question at Kendra, Castaway 21:31 < srevilak> Regardless of LC position, he's likely to get a voice in the decision making process 21:31 < Kendra> around how power is distributed over there 21:31 < igel> Castaway: we're viewing https://vote.mayfirst.org/nominations/2016 21:31 < papegaai> Title: Nominations | MFPL Voting Site / PMEP Sitio de votación (at vote.mayfirst.org) 21:32 < jokeefe> are any employees among the nominees. Kendra? 21:33 < Castaway> Thanks 21:34 < srevilak> jokeefe: AFAIK, MF/PL has three employees. None of them are running for LC in this election 21:34 < Kendra> I can't say for sure, I kind of stopped paying attention. 21:34 < igel> i know Micky does a bunch between fsf, boston linux usergroup and tons gnu/libre .. but Alfredo mission statement is well.. acclimated 21:36 < jokeefe> any other discussion? 21:37 < Kendra> Honestly, it will be a landslide for Alfredo due to his history with the organization. Micky has been more involved in the past few years and is very invested in worker owned tech coops 21:37 < igel> also: socialism :) 21:38 < Kendra> I don't know the others 21:38 < srevilak> Another thing to consider: MF/PL is co-headquartered in NYC and Mexico City. 21:39 < srevilak> IMHO, votes should have a mix of both regions 21:39 < Castaway> What kind of tech coops? 21:39 < Castaway> There’s a new nonprofit/PAC/501(c)4 called Rights and Democracy in Vermont and New Hampshire, how could this organization connect with MF/PL? 21:39 < Kendra> web dev coops, but also things like equal exchange 21:40 < jokeefe> https://mayfirst.org/en/index.html 21:40 < papegaai> Title: May First/People Link (at mayfirst.org) 21:40 < Kendra> worker owned cooperatives in general, but she is part of agaric drupal dev coop 21:41 < Castaway> Cool. Thanks. More importantly, is there a national Pirate Party to help organize Pirate Parties in states that lack them? 21:41 < Castaway> Like Vermont? 21:42 < Kendra> we can add that to the agenda if you likr 21:42 < Castaway> That would be great. 21:43 < jokeefe> yes Castaway uspirates.org 21:43 < Castaway> Vermont needs a Pirate Party, and Rights and Democracy might be able to connect with the New Hampshire Pirates. Are they active? 21:44 < jokeefe> email info@masspirates.org and we can put you in touch with the Maine and NH pirates 21:44 < jokeefe> thanks for joining us Castaway 21:44 < Castaway> OK, thanks 21:45 < Castaway> Thank you! 21:45 < jokeefe> Any other discussion? srevilak, I believe you were holding off for others? 21:46 < srevilak> I will second Kendra's opinion. Alfredo is one of the founding members, and will have a voice in the org regardless of whether he's on the LC 21:46 < srevilak> I would vote for the other five 21:47 < jokeefe> Seems like a reasonable view to me 21:47 < jokeefe> so we have a proposal on the table to vote for all except Alfredo. 21:48 < jokeefe> all in favor? 21:48 < Kendra> aye 21:49 < srevilak> aye 21:49 < jokeefe> aye 21:50 < jokeefe> any other? 21:50 < jokeefe> ayes, that is? 21:50 < jokeefe> any opposed? 21:51 < igel> nay 21:53 < jokeefe> thanks. Motion passes 3 to 1 then 21:53 < jokeefe> Chelsea Manning's Birthday is 12/17. What should we do for it? 21:54 < Castaway> Impeach Donald J. Trump? 21:54 < srevilak> Petition to commute chelsea manning's sentence to time served 21:54 < srevilak> https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/commute-chelsea-mannings-sentence-time-served-1 21:54 < papegaai> Title: Commute Chelsea Mannings Sentence to Time Served | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government (at petitions.whitehouse.gov) 21:55 < Castaway> Is there a deadline for pardons? 21:55 < jokeefe> well, that has to be done by 12/14, so can also urge people to sign it, for what is it worth 21:55 < Castaway> yes 21:56 < srevilak> Castaway: deadline is probably 1/19, before new administration moves in 21:56 < jokeefe> don’t think Trump will parson Manning, so last day of Obama’s term would be it for the next four years 21:56 < jokeefe> pardon Manning, that is 21:56 < Castaway> You mean 8 years, unless he's impeached 21:57 < jokeefe> I remain optimistic 21:57 < srevilak> 8 years, unless he's impeached, or doesn't win re-election built 21:57 < srevilak> 8 years, unless he's impeached, or doesn't win re-election bid 21:57 < Castaway> Has anyone seen reports of voter suppression among people of color? 21:57 < jokeefe> he builds the best re-elections 21:58 < Castaway> Ha, ha 21:58 < srevilak> and makes China pay for them 21:58 < jokeefe> what with the voter id laws, wouldn’t really be surprised 21:59 < srevilak> According to http://billmoyers.com/story/2016-election-lawsuit-tracker-new-election-laws-suits-challenging/ 21:59 < papegaai> Title: 2016 Election Lawsuit Tracker: The New Election Laws and the Suits Challenging Them - BillMoyers.com (at billmoyers.com) 21:59 < srevilak> there was a bit of litigation around voting laws 21:59 < jokeefe> thanks 21:59 < Castaway> No, there was this insane program among Republican secretaries of state called Crosscheck, and it purged Uge numbers of voters from the voter rolls in swing states 22:00 < jokeefe> we are almost at time, any other suggestions for manning’s birthday? 22:00 < jokeefe> support letter writing campaign, donations to legal fund? 22:00 < igel> yeah... in the VP-elect state 22:00 < Kendra> sounds good 22:00 < srevilak> jokeefe: yes. Or at least blog post 22:00 < srevilak> I'll volunteer to draft one 22:00 < jokeefe> thanks 22:01 < srevilak> Also, do we want to do a post about noDAPL? 22:01 < jokeefe> yes 22:01 < igel> ^ 22:01 < jokeefe> is my thought 22:02 < jokeefe> anyone willing to draft a post on noDAPL? 22:02 < srevilak> Am planning to go to Plymouth for day of morning. I'm sure I'll come away with something from that 22:02 < Castaway> I hope you do write a post on noDAPL. I'll check the US Pirate Party website for info about organizing. 22:02 < jokeefe> thanks. just put it up on an etherpad and we can make suggestions 22:03 < Kendra> motion to ajourn 22:03 < jokeefe> 2nd 22:03 < Castaway> OK 22:03 < jokeefe> all in favor? 22:03 < Kendra> aye 22:03 < srevilak> aye 22:03 < jokeefe> Castaway - https://blog.pirate-party.us/we-need-you-here-are-some-tools/ 22:03 < papegaai> Title: We need you! Here are some tools! | United States Pirate Party (at blog.pirate-party.us) 22:03 < Kendra> nite 22:03 < jokeefe> good night 22:03 < srevilak> will post transcript 22:03 < jokeefe> thank you