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Drug lab scandall. We signed on to a letter urging DA's to fix their mess. https://twitter.com/masspirates/status/836233460603834368. Good turn out at the protest. | Drug lab scandall. We signed on to a letter urging DA's to fix their mess. https://twitter.com/masspirates/status/836233460603834368. Good turn out at the protest. | ||
Fundraising: Aaron spoke with ~50 people. 10--12 offered to contribute. Three contributions so far. A number of bad phone numbers to clean out. We'll take a break from fundraising for now, and do another push in April, before the conference. | |||
Conference. Really do need to nail down venue. Will give tent city another day or so; will then try community church. | |||
Goal: come up with a draft of pirate platform ("planks"), to finish off at piratecon. Previous work in this area: https://github.com/masspirates/planks | |||
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21:06 < jokeefe> lets get started | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> Agenda: | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/February_28th,_2017_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:06 < papegaai> Title: February 28th, 2017 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate | |||
Wiki (at masspirates.org) | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> ids | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville | |||
21:06 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> Anything to review? | |||
21:06 < srevilak> yes | |||
21:06 < srevilak> Pride Parade registration. | |||
21:07 < srevilak> I spoke with the organizers of Pride earlier tonight, | |||
re: our registration | |||
21:07 < def-not-G> oh it's also me, totally not G, Lowell . sorry i was | |||
on the other page looking | |||
21:07 < jokeefe> no worries def-not-G | |||
21:07 < srevilak> The solidarity registration is something new, and | |||
their board is vetting each group that signs up as "solidarity" | |||
21:07 < def-not-G> in case the 2 or 3 of you didn't know who i was not | |||
21:07 < srevilak> def-not-G: :) | |||
21:08 < srevilak> I provided our EIN and explanation of how to access | |||
or financials via OCPF | |||
21:08 < srevilak> Their board will discuss us. But they may ask us to | |||
pay a higher registration fee | |||
21:08 < srevilak> should find out in a day or so | |||
21:08 < srevilak> over | |||
21:09 < srevilak> will keep you guys posted on how that works out | |||
21:09 < srevilak> questions? | |||
21:09 < igel> lo | |||
21:09 < jokeefe> ok | |||
21:09 < srevilak> hi igel | |||
21:09 < igel> william fleurant, arlington ma | |||
21:09 < jokeefe> ahoy igel | |||
21:10 < igel> evening hi | |||
21:10 < jokeefe> thanks for keeping us updated | |||
21:10 < jokeefe> srevilak | |||
21:10 < srevilak> Quartermaster update | |||
21:11 < jokeefe> ok | |||
21:11 < srevilak> Just paid Mayfirst. Received invoice from name.com, | |||
which I'll pay tomorrow | |||
21:11 < srevilak> Will also be cutting a check for fundraising expenses, | |||
later this week | |||
21:11 < jokeefe> I have a report on that later | |||
21:12 < srevilak> okay, I'll let you report on the later | |||
21:12 < srevilak> (end of quartermaster update) | |||
21:12 < jokeefe> what do we have in the bank after expenses? | |||
21:13 < srevilak> About $972. | |||
21:13 < srevilak> That's before any extra expediture for pride | |||
21:13 < jokeefe> thanks for the update | |||
21:14 < srevilak> If nothing else, I'll move to the next review item | |||
21:14 < srevilak> Piratecon venue | |||
21:14 < jokeefe> We signed a letter urging the DAs to fix their mess | |||
with the drug lab scandals | |||
21:15 < jokeefe> 40 groups signed in all | |||
21:15 < jokeefe> Good turn out at the protest yesterday | |||
21:15 < def-not-G> what was protest? about the labs? | |||
21:16 < jokeefe> yes - | |||
https://twitter.com/masspirates/status/836233460603834368 | |||
21:16 < papegaai> Title: Mass. Pirate Party op Twitter: "Thanks | |||
to @onekade for organizing & all who came out for justice for | |||
10,000s of drug lab victims. Check out https://t.co/MBM5xnPw0i to | |||
help! https://t.co/verMhbo8UG" (at twitter.com) | |||
21:16 < jokeefe> well the 10,000s of people who were convicted with | |||
false lab reports | |||
21:17 < jokeefe> A group to keep in touch with about next steps. Lots | |||
of tainted trials. | |||
21:17 < srevilak> It's amazing how much a mess one individual managed | |||
to make | |||
21:18 < jokeefe> Yes, and apparently there is another person at the lab | |||
in Amherst I think | |||
21:18 < srevilak> ah | |||
21:18 < jokeefe> Any other things for review? | |||
21:18 < def-not-G> is this something we could attack legistlatively at | |||
the state level? | |||
21:19 < jokeefe> sure | |||
21:19 < jokeefe> The SJC left it to the DAs to clean up, and gave them | |||
a deadline | |||
21:19 < srevilak> jokeefe: not review, but I'd like to talk about | |||
Piratecon a little (when appropriate) | |||
21:19 < jokeefe> ok | |||
21:19 < jokeefe> Two groups: ones to free and one to try again | |||
21:20 < jokeefe> If they don’t and SJC doesn’t do anything about it, | |||
then legislature could | |||
21:21 < jokeefe> Could put pressure on the legislature to get them to | |||
make some noise. | |||
21:21 < jokeefe> Is that something you want to check on def-not-G? | |||
21:22 < def-not-G> what was Kade/ ACLUm pushing? a petition or anything? | |||
21:23 < def-not-G> you guys well know my head is in foreign policy 90% | |||
of the time. after the various debacles w ACLUm. RT4, and DT4 i stopped | |||
bothering about state level politics | |||
21:23 < jokeefe> not ACLU | |||
21:24 < def-not-G> Kade is not ACLU anymore? | |||
21:24 < jokeefe> side project | |||
21:24 < jokeefe> | |||
https://nodrugarrests.net/druglab/coalition-demands-dismissal-tainted-convit/ | |||
21:24 < papegaai> Title: Statewide coalition demands full dismissal of | |||
all tainted convictions No Drug Arrests Collective (at nodrugarrests.net) | |||
21:24 < jokeefe> letter called for dismissing all tainted convictions | |||
21:25 < jokeefe> Gets attention for the issue. | |||
21:26 < jokeefe> Any endorsements anyone want to propose? | |||
21:27 < jokeefe> Otherwise, moving on to projects | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> Fundraising & Conference | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> Update on Aaron’s called | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> He has phone #s for 150 people. Called each # 3 times. | |||
21:28 < srevilak> Conference: haven't heard back from tent city. | |||
Will write again | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> ~10 wrong #s | |||
21:29 < jokeefe> thanks, srevilak | |||
21:29 < jokeefe> We should lock that down soon | |||
21:29 < srevilak> (perhaps finish with fundraising, then come back | |||
to conference?) | |||
21:29 < def-not-G> daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn that's some dedication to phone | |||
banking. | |||
21:29 < def-not-G> phone banking sucks | |||
21:30 < jokeefe> He spoke to ~50 people, 10-12 offered to give, have | |||
received from 3 so far: $130 | |||
21:30 < jokeefe> He is going to follow up starting Friday. Probably with | |||
emails, then then with a call. | |||
21:31 * srevilak will clean out bad phone numbers sometime in the next | |||
few days | |||
21:31 < jokeefe> I believe he did that. | |||
21:31 < jokeefe> But cannot hurt to check. Thanks | |||
21:31 < srevilak> If Aaron already did that, my job will be quick :) | |||
21:32 < jokeefe> We have more people in the database, but we need to | |||
add phone numbers / email fundraiser | |||
21:33 < jokeefe> He will hold off until we get more numbers, but should | |||
revisit in early April once PirateCon is settled and tell people about it | |||
21:34 < jokeefe> Will need to look at mailing folks as well. | |||
21:34 < jokeefe> That is all I have | |||
21:34 < jokeefe> on the conference - the page is up at | |||
https://masspirates.org/blog/conference/ | |||
21:34 < papegaai> Title: PirateCon 2017 | Massachusetts Pirate Party | |||
(at masspirates.org) | |||
21:35 < jokeefe> I am going to reach out to volunteers about cleaning | |||
up the 2015/2016 conference videos | |||
21:35 < srevilak> Re: piratecon, if tent city doesnt' work out, any | |||
thoughts for a plan B venue? | |||
21:36 < jokeefe> Community Church? | |||
21:36 < srevilak> Or democracy center? | |||
21:38 < srevilak> Will try community church later in the week, if I | |||
don't hear back from tent city | |||
21:39 < jokeefe> Demo center has more rooms, but I thought was too busy. | |||
21:40 < jokeefe> Community Church is wheel chair accessible. | |||
21:40 < jokeefe> thanks, srevilak | |||
21:40 < srevilak> yes, looking at Democracy center's calendar, they've | |||
got a pretty packed agenda | |||
21:40 < jokeefe> def-not-G, any update on Starting Local Chapters calls? | |||
21:41 < srevilak> I have one other conference item | |||
21:42 < igel> shoot | |||
21:42 < def-not-G> i haven't called anyone in the past couple weeks. it's | |||
not productive. | |||
21:42 < jokeefe> sure | |||
21:42 < jokeefe> srevilak | |||
21:42 < jokeefe> please proceed | |||
21:42 < srevilak> was at board of selectmens meeting last week, for | |||
warrant article hearings | |||
21:43 < srevilak> One group proposed a resolution article, based on | |||
https://represent.us/ | |||
21:43 < papegaai> Title: End corruption. Defend the Republic. | | |||
Represent.Us (at represent.us) | |||
21:43 < srevilak> The selectmen voted no action, but I went to the | |||
article proponents after meeting, to thank them for trying | |||
21:44 < srevilak> Have to look at group a bit more, but they might be | |||
worth inviting to give a panel | |||
21:44 < srevilak> At the very least, some of the folks took the initiave | |||
to petition our town's govt | |||
21:44 < srevilak> (end of item) | |||
21:45 < jokeefe> something to consider | |||
21:46 < jokeefe> def-not-G: calls aren’t productive? | |||
21:48 < def-not-G> i mean we been over this. you want me to recruit to a | |||
political party that doesn't have a legislative mission. we need a call | |||
to action that is branded with our name to get people on board to advance | |||
our mission, or else i don't know how to rally troops without a banner | |||
21:51 < jokeefe> ok. personally, I lead with getting the corrupt sobs | |||
out who shuffle our money off to Hollywood and big corporations while | |||
raising taxes on the poor and middle class, but if you feel we need more, | |||
we should work on that | |||
21:52 < def-not-G> but what does that mean? | |||
21:52 < def-not-G> change for the sake of change ain't winning no | |||
popularity contest unless you wanna arc to the hard right | |||
21:53 < srevilak> There could be merit in pushing back against the | |||
one-party system in MA | |||
21:53 < jokeefe> yeah, but even that isn’t enough. | |||
21:53 < igel> hmm | |||
21:54 < igel> bernie sanders has legislative mission | |||
21:54 < def-not-G> absolutely, Steve. but we need a signature plank to | |||
be like., "this is what we are trying to do" | |||
21:54 < def-not-G> Sanders... ya bombing the crap out of everyone is | |||
his mission :P | |||
21:54 < srevilak> I think I see what def-not-G is struggling with: | |||
form a local group, but what does the local group do? | |||
21:54 < igel> i'm not so sure he said that | |||
21:55 < srevilak> Or, what kind of project does the local group work on? | |||
21:55 < jokeefe> well not explicitly, igel | |||
21:55 < def-not-G> well it's what does our state party do? the locals | |||
shoudl support the state mission | |||
21:57 < def-not-G> that mission should be legislative. this Kade | |||
thing... maybe we can work something out of that. i dunno. the feds are | |||
about to crack down hard it looks like, now's the time but we can't get | |||
caught up supporting and being proxies to others. we gotta takea lead | |||
on something to pull people to our banner | |||
21:57 < jokeefe> agreed | |||
21:57 < jokeefe> been using the cryptoparties, but that only goes so far | |||
21:57 < srevilak> Yes, we want to nail down a short list | |||
21:58 < def-not-G> looks like that bastard is coming for our weed, too. | |||
21:58 < def-not-G> #ComeAndTokeIt, mofos | |||
21:58 < def-not-G> :D | |||
21:58 < srevilak> I think Jeff Session is definitely coming for your weed | |||
21:58 < def-not-G> i don't blame him. it's good stuff. lol | |||
21:58 < jokeefe> lol | |||
21:59 < jokeefe> srevilak, how goes the alternatives to irc tech task? | |||
21:59 < srevilak> You mean the discussion board? | |||
21:59 < jokeefe> aye | |||
22:00 < igel> oof | |||
22:00 < jokeefe> We can finalize our planks at PirateCon, but there | |||
needs to be a lot of discussion in the next two months | |||
22:00 < srevilak> Puer and I had started looking at discourse | |||
22:00 < jokeefe> And I have the bboard software on my plate | |||
22:01 < srevilak> Discourse relies on certain absolute paths (e.g., | |||
putting things in /var). Unless we can figure out how to more things | |||
around, we'd need a dedicated VM | |||
22:01 < srevilak> mybb (I think, what the DE pirates use) seems like | |||
less adminstrative/setup overhead | |||
22:02 < jokeefe> how much more is that? | |||
22:02 < srevilak> Will have to ask | |||
22:02 < jokeefe> well, if you two want to focus on myBB, I am happy to | |||
relinquish that task to you | |||
22:03 < srevilak> Will have to ask MF/PL. Alternative is looking | |||
at another hosting provider, and perhaps its not something we keep | |||
permanently | |||
22:03 < jokeefe> kind of need to keep it permanently | |||
22:03 < igel> i have metal.. can host/maintain | |||
22:04 < igel> dedicated metal, in datacenters with privacy laws :) | |||
22:04 < jokeefe> thanks | |||
22:04 < jokeefe> def-not-G is right, we need to finalize our platform | |||
and PirateCon is a good due date | |||
22:05 < igel> if it saves time/money, feel free to ping me ill put on | |||
my shortlist w/ a proposed setup | |||
22:06 < srevilak> thanks, igel | |||
22:06 < jokeefe> Will dig up what we put in the git repo. Can see if we | |||
can gel it down to 9-10 weeks worth of stuff and post a blog entry a week | |||
22:07 < jokeefe> We are at time | |||
22:07 < jokeefe> But to be sure. Aim for our planks for PirateCon for | |||
final approval? | |||
22:08 < igel> yeah time to get hype | |||
22:08 < srevilak> jokeefe: agreed, time to mend the plans | |||
22:08 < srevilak> jokeefe: agreed, time to mend the planks | |||
22:08 < def-not-G> aye. if we want to grow we should try to figure our | |||
planks by the end of the convention, like the big boys do :P | |||
22:08 < jokeefe> you good def-not-G? | |||
22:08 < def-not-G> ...big boys and girls | |||
22:08 < def-not-G> whatever | |||
22:08 < jokeefe> lol | |||
22:09 < jokeefe> motion to adjourn. got a 2nd? | |||
22:09 < def-not-G> trying to be inclusive. lol :P | |||
22:09 < srevilak> second | |||
22:09 < def-not-G> senconded | |||
22:09 < srevilak> will post transcript | |||
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Latest revision as of 22:12, 28 February 2017
Review
- Pride Parade registration
- Quartermaster update
- Massachusetts drug testing lab scandal
- Piratecon venue
Decisions/Endorsements
Projects
Fundraising & Conference
Starting Local Chapters
Campaign Workshops
Message board application
Local Surveillance Ordinances
Cryptoparties
MAAPL Fight Foreclosure Campaign
Projects On Hold For the Moment
Both of these could be topics for future hackathons.
CCTV Camera Map
Looking at organizing a map-a-thon.
Together Boston Meshnet
Upcoming Events
See: 2017 calendar
Participants
- srevilak
- jokeefe
- def-not-G
Observers
- Techrev
- papegaai
- Sankey
- davidd
- igel
Summary
Pride. Steve spoke with event organizers. Might have to change registration to a different category. Should know in a day or two
Recent expenses: name.com, MF/PL, fundraising. Some income from fundraising. Projected balance after these transactions -- around $972.
Drug lab scandall. We signed on to a letter urging DA's to fix their mess. https://twitter.com/masspirates/status/836233460603834368. Good turn out at the protest.
Fundraising: Aaron spoke with ~50 people. 10--12 offered to contribute. Three contributions so far. A number of bad phone numbers to clean out. We'll take a break from fundraising for now, and do another push in April, before the conference.
Conference. Really do need to nail down venue. Will give tent city another day or so; will then try community church.
Goal: come up with a draft of pirate platform ("planks"), to finish off at piratecon. Previous work in this area: https://github.com/masspirates/planks
To Dos
Minutes
21:06 < jokeefe> lets get started 21:06 < jokeefe> Agenda: https://masspirates.org/wiki/February_28th,_2017_IRC_Meeting 21:06 < papegaai> Title: February 28th, 2017 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki (at masspirates.org) 21:06 < jokeefe> ids 21:06 < jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville 21:06 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA 21:06 < jokeefe> Anything to review? 21:06 < srevilak> yes 21:06 < srevilak> Pride Parade registration. 21:07 < srevilak> I spoke with the organizers of Pride earlier tonight, re: our registration 21:07 < def-not-G> oh it's also me, totally not G, Lowell . sorry i was on the other page looking 21:07 < jokeefe> no worries def-not-G 21:07 < srevilak> The solidarity registration is something new, and their board is vetting each group that signs up as "solidarity" 21:07 < def-not-G> in case the 2 or 3 of you didn't know who i was not 21:07 < srevilak> def-not-G: :) 21:08 < srevilak> I provided our EIN and explanation of how to access or financials via OCPF 21:08 < srevilak> Their board will discuss us. But they may ask us to pay a higher registration fee 21:08 < srevilak> should find out in a day or so 21:08 < srevilak> over 21:09 < srevilak> will keep you guys posted on how that works out 21:09 < srevilak> questions? 21:09 < igel> lo 21:09 < jokeefe> ok 21:09 < srevilak> hi igel 21:09 < igel> william fleurant, arlington ma 21:09 < jokeefe> ahoy igel 21:10 < igel> evening hi 21:10 < jokeefe> thanks for keeping us updated 21:10 < jokeefe> srevilak 21:10 < srevilak> Quartermaster update 21:11 < jokeefe> ok 21:11 < srevilak> Just paid Mayfirst. Received invoice from name.com, which I'll pay tomorrow 21:11 < srevilak> Will also be cutting a check for fundraising expenses, later this week 21:11 < jokeefe> I have a report on that later 21:12 < srevilak> okay, I'll let you report on the later 21:12 < srevilak> (end of quartermaster update) 21:12 < jokeefe> what do we have in the bank after expenses? 21:13 < srevilak> About $972. 21:13 < srevilak> That's before any extra expediture for pride 21:13 < jokeefe> thanks for the update 21:14 < srevilak> If nothing else, I'll move to the next review item 21:14 < srevilak> Piratecon venue 21:14 < jokeefe> We signed a letter urging the DAs to fix their mess with the drug lab scandals 21:15 < jokeefe> 40 groups signed in all 21:15 < jokeefe> Good turn out at the protest yesterday 21:15 < def-not-G> what was protest? about the labs? 21:16 < jokeefe> yes - https://twitter.com/masspirates/status/836233460603834368 21:16 < papegaai> Title: Mass. Pirate Party op Twitter: "Thanks to @onekade for organizing & all who came out for justice for 10,000s of drug lab victims. Check out https://t.co/MBM5xnPw0i to help! https://t.co/verMhbo8UG" (at twitter.com) 21:16 < jokeefe> well the 10,000s of people who were convicted with false lab reports 21:17 < jokeefe> A group to keep in touch with about next steps. Lots of tainted trials. 21:17 < srevilak> It's amazing how much a mess one individual managed to make 21:18 < jokeefe> Yes, and apparently there is another person at the lab in Amherst I think 21:18 < srevilak> ah 21:18 < jokeefe> Any other things for review? 21:18 < def-not-G> is this something we could attack legistlatively at the state level? 21:19 < jokeefe> sure 21:19 < jokeefe> The SJC left it to the DAs to clean up, and gave them a deadline 21:19 < srevilak> jokeefe: not review, but I'd like to talk about Piratecon a little (when appropriate) 21:19 < jokeefe> ok 21:19 < jokeefe> Two groups: ones to free and one to try again 21:20 < jokeefe> If they don’t and SJC doesn’t do anything about it, then legislature could 21:21 < jokeefe> Could put pressure on the legislature to get them to make some noise. 21:21 < jokeefe> Is that something you want to check on def-not-G? 21:22 < def-not-G> what was Kade/ ACLUm pushing? a petition or anything? 21:23 < def-not-G> you guys well know my head is in foreign policy 90% of the time. after the various debacles w ACLUm. RT4, and DT4 i stopped bothering about state level politics 21:23 < jokeefe> not ACLU 21:24 < def-not-G> Kade is not ACLU anymore? 21:24 < jokeefe> side project 21:24 < jokeefe> https://nodrugarrests.net/druglab/coalition-demands-dismissal-tainted-convit/ 21:24 < papegaai> Title: Statewide coalition demands full dismissal of all tainted convictions No Drug Arrests Collective (at nodrugarrests.net) 21:24 < jokeefe> letter called for dismissing all tainted convictions 21:25 < jokeefe> Gets attention for the issue. 21:26 < jokeefe> Any endorsements anyone want to propose? 21:27 < jokeefe> Otherwise, moving on to projects 21:28 < jokeefe> Fundraising & Conference 21:28 < jokeefe> Update on Aaron’s called 21:28 < jokeefe> He has phone #s for 150 people. Called each # 3 times. 21:28 < srevilak> Conference: haven't heard back from tent city. Will write again 21:28 < jokeefe> ~10 wrong #s 21:29 < jokeefe> thanks, srevilak 21:29 < jokeefe> We should lock that down soon 21:29 < srevilak> (perhaps finish with fundraising, then come back to conference?) 21:29 < def-not-G> daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn that's some dedication to phone banking. 21:29 < def-not-G> phone banking sucks 21:30 < jokeefe> He spoke to ~50 people, 10-12 offered to give, have received from 3 so far: $130 21:30 < jokeefe> He is going to follow up starting Friday. Probably with emails, then then with a call. 21:31 * srevilak will clean out bad phone numbers sometime in the next few days 21:31 < jokeefe> I believe he did that. 21:31 < jokeefe> But cannot hurt to check. Thanks 21:31 < srevilak> If Aaron already did that, my job will be quick :) 21:32 < jokeefe> We have more people in the database, but we need to add phone numbers / email fundraiser 21:33 < jokeefe> He will hold off until we get more numbers, but should revisit in early April once PirateCon is settled and tell people about it 21:34 < jokeefe> Will need to look at mailing folks as well. 21:34 < jokeefe> That is all I have 21:34 < jokeefe> on the conference - the page is up at https://masspirates.org/blog/conference/ 21:34 < papegaai> Title: PirateCon 2017 | Massachusetts Pirate Party (at masspirates.org) 21:35 < jokeefe> I am going to reach out to volunteers about cleaning up the 2015/2016 conference videos 21:35 < srevilak> Re: piratecon, if tent city doesnt' work out, any thoughts for a plan B venue? 21:36 < jokeefe> Community Church? 21:36 < srevilak> Or democracy center? 21:38 < srevilak> Will try community church later in the week, if I don't hear back from tent city 21:39 < jokeefe> Demo center has more rooms, but I thought was too busy. 21:40 < jokeefe> Community Church is wheel chair accessible. 21:40 < jokeefe> thanks, srevilak 21:40 < srevilak> yes, looking at Democracy center's calendar, they've got a pretty packed agenda 21:40 < jokeefe> def-not-G, any update on Starting Local Chapters calls? 21:41 < srevilak> I have one other conference item 21:42 < igel> shoot 21:42 < def-not-G> i haven't called anyone in the past couple weeks. it's not productive. 21:42 < jokeefe> sure 21:42 < jokeefe> srevilak 21:42 < jokeefe> please proceed 21:42 < srevilak> was at board of selectmens meeting last week, for warrant article hearings 21:43 < srevilak> One group proposed a resolution article, based on https://represent.us/ 21:43 < papegaai> Title: End corruption. Defend the Republic. | Represent.Us (at represent.us) 21:43 < srevilak> The selectmen voted no action, but I went to the article proponents after meeting, to thank them for trying 21:44 < srevilak> Have to look at group a bit more, but they might be worth inviting to give a panel 21:44 < srevilak> At the very least, some of the folks took the initiave to petition our town's govt 21:44 < srevilak> (end of item) 21:45 < jokeefe> something to consider 21:46 < jokeefe> def-not-G: calls aren’t productive? 21:48 < def-not-G> i mean we been over this. you want me to recruit to a political party that doesn't have a legislative mission. we need a call to action that is branded with our name to get people on board to advance our mission, or else i don't know how to rally troops without a banner 21:51 < jokeefe> ok. personally, I lead with getting the corrupt sobs out who shuffle our money off to Hollywood and big corporations while raising taxes on the poor and middle class, but if you feel we need more, we should work on that 21:52 < def-not-G> but what does that mean? 21:52 < def-not-G> change for the sake of change ain't winning no popularity contest unless you wanna arc to the hard right 21:53 < srevilak> There could be merit in pushing back against the one-party system in MA 21:53 < jokeefe> yeah, but even that isn’t enough. 21:53 < igel> hmm 21:54 < igel> bernie sanders has legislative mission 21:54 < def-not-G> absolutely, Steve. but we need a signature plank to be like., "this is what we are trying to do" 21:54 < def-not-G> Sanders... ya bombing the crap out of everyone is his mission :P 21:54 < srevilak> I think I see what def-not-G is struggling with: form a local group, but what does the local group do? 21:54 < igel> i'm not so sure he said that 21:55 < srevilak> Or, what kind of project does the local group work on? 21:55 < jokeefe> well not explicitly, igel 21:55 < def-not-G> well it's what does our state party do? the locals shoudl support the state mission 21:57 < def-not-G> that mission should be legislative. this Kade thing... maybe we can work something out of that. i dunno. the feds are about to crack down hard it looks like, now's the time but we can't get caught up supporting and being proxies to others. we gotta takea lead on something to pull people to our banner 21:57 < jokeefe> agreed 21:57 < jokeefe> been using the cryptoparties, but that only goes so far 21:57 < srevilak> Yes, we want to nail down a short list 21:58 < def-not-G> looks like that bastard is coming for our weed, too. 21:58 < def-not-G> #ComeAndTokeIt, mofos 21:58 < def-not-G> :D 21:58 < srevilak> I think Jeff Session is definitely coming for your weed 21:58 < def-not-G> i don't blame him. it's good stuff. lol 21:58 < jokeefe> lol 21:59 < jokeefe> srevilak, how goes the alternatives to irc tech task? 21:59 < srevilak> You mean the discussion board? 21:59 < jokeefe> aye 22:00 < igel> oof 22:00 < jokeefe> We can finalize our planks at PirateCon, but there needs to be a lot of discussion in the next two months 22:00 < srevilak> Puer and I had started looking at discourse 22:00 < jokeefe> And I have the bboard software on my plate 22:01 < srevilak> Discourse relies on certain absolute paths (e.g., putting things in /var). Unless we can figure out how to more things around, we'd need a dedicated VM 22:01 < srevilak> mybb (I think, what the DE pirates use) seems like less adminstrative/setup overhead 22:02 < jokeefe> how much more is that? 22:02 < srevilak> Will have to ask 22:02 < jokeefe> well, if you two want to focus on myBB, I am happy to relinquish that task to you 22:03 < srevilak> Will have to ask MF/PL. Alternative is looking at another hosting provider, and perhaps its not something we keep permanently 22:03 < jokeefe> kind of need to keep it permanently 22:03 < igel> i have metal.. can host/maintain 22:04 < igel> dedicated metal, in datacenters with privacy laws :) 22:04 < jokeefe> thanks 22:04 < jokeefe> def-not-G is right, we need to finalize our platform and PirateCon is a good due date 22:05 < igel> if it saves time/money, feel free to ping me ill put on my shortlist w/ a proposed setup 22:06 < srevilak> thanks, igel 22:06 < jokeefe> Will dig up what we put in the git repo. Can see if we can gel it down to 9-10 weeks worth of stuff and post a blog entry a week 22:07 < jokeefe> We are at time 22:07 < jokeefe> But to be sure. Aim for our planks for PirateCon for final approval? 22:08 < igel> yeah time to get hype 22:08 < srevilak> jokeefe: agreed, time to mend the plans 22:08 < srevilak> jokeefe: agreed, time to mend the planks 22:08 < def-not-G> aye. if we want to grow we should try to figure our planks by the end of the convention, like the big boys do :P 22:08 < jokeefe> you good def-not-G? 22:08 < def-not-G> ...big boys and girls 22:08 < def-not-G> whatever 22:08 < jokeefe> lol 22:09 < jokeefe> motion to adjourn. got a 2nd? 22:09 < def-not-G> trying to be inclusive. lol :P 22:09 < srevilak> second 22:09 < def-not-G> senconded 22:09 < srevilak> will post transcript