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Fundraising: Aaron spoke with ~50 people. 10--12 offered to contribute. Three contributions so far. A number of bad phone numbers to clean out. We'll take a break from fundraising for now, and do another push in April, before the conference. | Fundraising: Aaron spoke with ~50 people. 10--12 offered to contribute. Three contributions so far. A number of bad phone numbers to clean out. We'll take a break from fundraising for now, and do another push in April, before the conference. | ||
Conference. Really do need to nail down venue. Will give tent city another day or so; will then try community church. | |||
Goal: come up with a draft of pirate platform ("planks"), to finish off at piratecon. Previous work in this area: https://github.com/masspirates/planks | |||
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21:06 < jokeefe> lets get started | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> Agenda: | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/February_28th,_2017_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:06 < papegaai> Title: February 28th, 2017 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate | |||
Wiki (at masspirates.org) | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> ids | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville | |||
21:06 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA | |||
21:06 < jokeefe> Anything to review? | |||
21:06 < srevilak> yes | |||
21:06 < srevilak> Pride Parade registration. | |||
21:07 < srevilak> I spoke with the organizers of Pride earlier tonight, | |||
re: our registration | |||
21:07 < def-not-G> oh it's also me, totally not G, Lowell . sorry i was | |||
on the other page looking | |||
21:07 < jokeefe> no worries def-not-G | |||
21:07 < srevilak> The solidarity registration is something new, and | |||
their board is vetting each group that signs up as "solidarity" | |||
21:07 < def-not-G> in case the 2 or 3 of you didn't know who i was not | |||
21:07 < srevilak> def-not-G: :) | |||
21:08 < srevilak> I provided our EIN and explanation of how to access | |||
or financials via OCPF | |||
21:08 < srevilak> Their board will discuss us. But they may ask us to | |||
pay a higher registration fee | |||
21:08 < srevilak> should find out in a day or so | |||
21:08 < srevilak> over | |||
21:09 < srevilak> will keep you guys posted on how that works out | |||
21:09 < srevilak> questions? | |||
21:09 < igel> lo | |||
21:09 < jokeefe> ok | |||
21:09 < srevilak> hi igel | |||
21:09 < igel> william fleurant, arlington ma | |||
21:09 < jokeefe> ahoy igel | |||
21:10 < igel> evening hi | |||
21:10 < jokeefe> thanks for keeping us updated | |||
21:10 < jokeefe> srevilak | |||
21:10 < srevilak> Quartermaster update | |||
21:11 < jokeefe> ok | |||
21:11 < srevilak> Just paid Mayfirst. Received invoice from name.com, | |||
which I'll pay tomorrow | |||
21:11 < srevilak> Will also be cutting a check for fundraising expenses, | |||
later this week | |||
21:11 < jokeefe> I have a report on that later | |||
21:12 < srevilak> okay, I'll let you report on the later | |||
21:12 < srevilak> (end of quartermaster update) | |||
21:12 < jokeefe> what do we have in the bank after expenses? | |||
21:13 < srevilak> About $972. | |||
21:13 < srevilak> That's before any extra expediture for pride | |||
21:13 < jokeefe> thanks for the update | |||
21:14 < srevilak> If nothing else, I'll move to the next review item | |||
21:14 < srevilak> Piratecon venue | |||
21:14 < jokeefe> We signed a letter urging the DAs to fix their mess | |||
with the drug lab scandals | |||
21:15 < jokeefe> 40 groups signed in all | |||
21:15 < jokeefe> Good turn out at the protest yesterday | |||
21:15 < def-not-G> what was protest? about the labs? | |||
21:16 < jokeefe> yes - | |||
https://twitter.com/masspirates/status/836233460603834368 | |||
21:16 < papegaai> Title: Mass. Pirate Party op Twitter: "Thanks | |||
to @onekade for organizing & all who came out for justice for | |||
10,000s of drug lab victims. Check out https://t.co/MBM5xnPw0i to | |||
help! https://t.co/verMhbo8UG" (at twitter.com) | |||
21:16 < jokeefe> well the 10,000s of people who were convicted with | |||
false lab reports | |||
21:17 < jokeefe> A group to keep in touch with about next steps. Lots | |||
of tainted trials. | |||
21:17 < srevilak> It's amazing how much a mess one individual managed | |||
to make | |||
21:18 < jokeefe> Yes, and apparently there is another person at the lab | |||
in Amherst I think | |||
21:18 < srevilak> ah | |||
21:18 < jokeefe> Any other things for review? | |||
21:18 < def-not-G> is this something we could attack legistlatively at | |||
the state level? | |||
21:19 < jokeefe> sure | |||
21:19 < jokeefe> The SJC left it to the DAs to clean up, and gave them | |||
a deadline | |||
21:19 < srevilak> jokeefe: not review, but I'd like to talk about | |||
Piratecon a little (when appropriate) | |||
21:19 < jokeefe> ok | |||
21:19 < jokeefe> Two groups: ones to free and one to try again | |||
21:20 < jokeefe> If they don’t and SJC doesn’t do anything about it, | |||
then legislature could | |||
21:21 < jokeefe> Could put pressure on the legislature to get them to | |||
make some noise. | |||
21:21 < jokeefe> Is that something you want to check on def-not-G? | |||
21:22 < def-not-G> what was Kade/ ACLUm pushing? a petition or anything? | |||
21:23 < def-not-G> you guys well know my head is in foreign policy 90% | |||
of the time. after the various debacles w ACLUm. RT4, and DT4 i stopped | |||
bothering about state level politics | |||
21:23 < jokeefe> not ACLU | |||
21:24 < def-not-G> Kade is not ACLU anymore? | |||
21:24 < jokeefe> side project | |||
21:24 < jokeefe> | |||
https://nodrugarrests.net/druglab/coalition-demands-dismissal-tainted-convit/ | |||
21:24 < papegaai> Title: Statewide coalition demands full dismissal of | |||
all tainted convictions No Drug Arrests Collective (at nodrugarrests.net) | |||
21:24 < jokeefe> letter called for dismissing all tainted convictions | |||
21:25 < jokeefe> Gets attention for the issue. | |||
21:26 < jokeefe> Any endorsements anyone want to propose? | |||
21:27 < jokeefe> Otherwise, moving on to projects | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> Fundraising & Conference | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> Update on Aaron’s called | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> He has phone #s for 150 people. Called each # 3 times. | |||
21:28 < srevilak> Conference: haven't heard back from tent city. | |||
Will write again | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> ~10 wrong #s | |||
21:29 < jokeefe> thanks, srevilak | |||
21:29 < jokeefe> We should lock that down soon | |||
21:29 < srevilak> (perhaps finish with fundraising, then come back | |||
to conference?) | |||
21:29 < def-not-G> daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn that's some dedication to phone | |||
banking. | |||
21:29 < def-not-G> phone banking sucks | |||
21:30 < jokeefe> He spoke to ~50 people, 10-12 offered to give, have | |||
received from 3 so far: $130 | |||
21:30 < jokeefe> He is going to follow up starting Friday. Probably with | |||
emails, then then with a call. | |||
21:31 * srevilak will clean out bad phone numbers sometime in the next | |||
few days | |||
21:31 < jokeefe> I believe he did that. | |||
21:31 < jokeefe> But cannot hurt to check. Thanks | |||
21:31 < srevilak> If Aaron already did that, my job will be quick :) | |||
21:32 < jokeefe> We have more people in the database, but we need to | |||
add phone numbers / email fundraiser | |||
21:33 < jokeefe> He will hold off until we get more numbers, but should | |||
revisit in early April once PirateCon is settled and tell people about it | |||
21:34 < jokeefe> Will need to look at mailing folks as well. | |||
21:34 < jokeefe> That is all I have | |||
21:34 < jokeefe> on the conference - the page is up at | |||
https://masspirates.org/blog/conference/ | |||
21:34 < papegaai> Title: PirateCon 2017 | Massachusetts Pirate Party | |||
(at masspirates.org) | |||
21:35 < jokeefe> I am going to reach out to volunteers about cleaning | |||
up the 2015/2016 conference videos | |||
21:35 < srevilak> Re: piratecon, if tent city doesnt' work out, any | |||
thoughts for a plan B venue? | |||
21:36 < jokeefe> Community Church? | |||
21:36 < srevilak> Or democracy center? | |||
21:38 < srevilak> Will try community church later in the week, if I | |||
don't hear back from tent city | |||
21:39 < jokeefe> Demo center has more rooms, but I thought was too busy. | |||
21:40 < jokeefe> Community Church is wheel chair accessible. | |||
21:40 < jokeefe> thanks, srevilak | |||
21:40 < srevilak> yes, looking at Democracy center's calendar, they've | |||
got a pretty packed agenda | |||
21:40 < jokeefe> def-not-G, any update on Starting Local Chapters calls? | |||
21:41 < srevilak> I have one other conference item | |||
21:42 < igel> shoot | |||
21:42 < def-not-G> i haven't called anyone in the past couple weeks. it's | |||
not productive. | |||
21:42 < jokeefe> sure | |||
21:42 < jokeefe> srevilak | |||
21:42 < jokeefe> please proceed | |||
21:42 < srevilak> was at board of selectmens meeting last week, for | |||
warrant article hearings | |||
21:43 < srevilak> One group proposed a resolution article, based on | |||
https://represent.us/ | |||
21:43 < papegaai> Title: End corruption. Defend the Republic. | | |||
Represent.Us (at represent.us) | |||
21:43 < srevilak> The selectmen voted no action, but I went to the | |||
article proponents after meeting, to thank them for trying | |||
21:44 < srevilak> Have to look at group a bit more, but they might be | |||
worth inviting to give a panel | |||
21:44 < srevilak> At the very least, some of the folks took the initiave | |||
to petition our town's govt | |||
21:44 < srevilak> (end of item) | |||
21:45 < jokeefe> something to consider | |||
21:46 < jokeefe> def-not-G: calls aren’t productive? | |||
21:48 < def-not-G> i mean we been over this. you want me to recruit to a | |||
political party that doesn't have a legislative mission. we need a call | |||
to action that is branded with our name to get people on board to advance | |||
our mission, or else i don't know how to rally troops without a banner | |||
21:51 < jokeefe> ok. personally, I lead with getting the corrupt sobs | |||
out who shuffle our money off to Hollywood and big corporations while | |||
raising taxes on the poor and middle class, but if you feel we need more, | |||
we should work on that | |||
21:52 < def-not-G> but what does that mean? | |||
21:52 < def-not-G> change for the sake of change ain't winning no | |||
popularity contest unless you wanna arc to the hard right | |||
21:53 < srevilak> There could be merit in pushing back against the | |||
one-party system in MA | |||
21:53 < jokeefe> yeah, but even that isn’t enough. | |||
21:53 < igel> hmm | |||
21:54 < igel> bernie sanders has legislative mission | |||
21:54 < def-not-G> absolutely, Steve. but we need a signature plank to | |||
be like., "this is what we are trying to do" | |||
21:54 < def-not-G> Sanders... ya bombing the crap out of everyone is | |||
his mission :P | |||
21:54 < srevilak> I think I see what def-not-G is struggling with: | |||
form a local group, but what does the local group do? | |||
21:54 < igel> i'm not so sure he said that | |||
21:55 < srevilak> Or, what kind of project does the local group work on? | |||
21:55 < jokeefe> well not explicitly, igel | |||
21:55 < def-not-G> well it's what does our state party do? the locals | |||
shoudl support the state mission | |||
21:57 < def-not-G> that mission should be legislative. this Kade | |||
thing... maybe we can work something out of that. i dunno. the feds are | |||
about to crack down hard it looks like, now's the time but we can't get | |||
caught up supporting and being proxies to others. we gotta takea lead | |||
on something to pull people to our banner | |||
21:57 < jokeefe> agreed | |||
21:57 < jokeefe> been using the cryptoparties, but that only goes so far | |||
21:57 < srevilak> Yes, we want to nail down a short list | |||
21:58 < def-not-G> looks like that bastard is coming for our weed, too. | |||
21:58 < def-not-G> #ComeAndTokeIt, mofos | |||
21:58 < def-not-G> :D | |||
21:58 < srevilak> I think Jeff Session is definitely coming for your weed | |||
21:58 < def-not-G> i don't blame him. it's good stuff. lol | |||
21:58 < jokeefe> lol | |||
21:59 < jokeefe> srevilak, how goes the alternatives to irc tech task? | |||
21:59 < srevilak> You mean the discussion board? | |||
21:59 < jokeefe> aye | |||
22:00 < igel> oof | |||
22:00 < jokeefe> We can finalize our planks at PirateCon, but there | |||
needs to be a lot of discussion in the next two months | |||
22:00 < srevilak> Puer and I had started looking at discourse | |||
22:00 < jokeefe> And I have the bboard software on my plate | |||
22:01 < srevilak> Discourse relies on certain absolute paths (e.g., | |||
putting things in /var). Unless we can figure out how to more things | |||
around, we'd need a dedicated VM | |||
22:01 < srevilak> mybb (I think, what the DE pirates use) seems like | |||
less adminstrative/setup overhead | |||
22:02 < jokeefe> how much more is that? | |||
22:02 < srevilak> Will have to ask | |||
22:02 < jokeefe> well, if you two want to focus on myBB, I am happy to | |||
relinquish that task to you | |||
22:03 < srevilak> Will have to ask MF/PL. Alternative is looking | |||
at another hosting provider, and perhaps its not something we keep | |||
permanently | |||
22:03 < jokeefe> kind of need to keep it permanently | |||
22:03 < igel> i have metal.. can host/maintain | |||
22:04 < igel> dedicated metal, in datacenters with privacy laws :) | |||
22:04 < jokeefe> thanks | |||
22:04 < jokeefe> def-not-G is right, we need to finalize our platform | |||
and PirateCon is a good due date | |||
22:05 < igel> if it saves time/money, feel free to ping me ill put on | |||
my shortlist w/ a proposed setup | |||
22:06 < srevilak> thanks, igel | |||
22:06 < jokeefe> Will dig up what we put in the git repo. Can see if we | |||
can gel it down to 9-10 weeks worth of stuff and post a blog entry a week | |||
22:07 < jokeefe> We are at time | |||
22:07 < jokeefe> But to be sure. Aim for our planks for PirateCon for | |||
final approval? | |||
22:08 < igel> yeah time to get hype | |||
22:08 < srevilak> jokeefe: agreed, time to mend the plans | |||
22:08 < srevilak> jokeefe: agreed, time to mend the planks | |||
22:08 < def-not-G> aye. if we want to grow we should try to figure our | |||
planks by the end of the convention, like the big boys do :P | |||
22:08 < jokeefe> you good def-not-G? | |||
22:08 < def-not-G> ...big boys and girls | |||
22:08 < def-not-G> whatever | |||
22:08 < jokeefe> lol | |||
22:09 < jokeefe> motion to adjourn. got a 2nd? | |||
22:09 < def-not-G> trying to be inclusive. lol :P | |||
22:09 < srevilak> second | |||
22:09 < def-not-G> senconded | |||
22:09 < srevilak> will post transcript | |||
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Latest revision as of 23:12, 28 February 2017
Review
- Pride Parade registration
- Quartermaster update
- Massachusetts drug testing lab scandal
- Piratecon venue
Decisions/Endorsements
Projects
Fundraising & Conference
Starting Local Chapters
Campaign Workshops
Message board application
Local Surveillance Ordinances
Cryptoparties
MAAPL Fight Foreclosure Campaign
Projects On Hold For the Moment
Both of these could be topics for future hackathons.
CCTV Camera Map
Looking at organizing a map-a-thon.
Together Boston Meshnet
Upcoming Events
See: 2017 calendar
Participants
- srevilak
- jokeefe
- def-not-G
Observers
- Techrev
- papegaai
- Sankey
- davidd
- igel
Summary
Pride. Steve spoke with event organizers. Might have to change registration to a different category. Should know in a day or two
Recent expenses: name.com, MF/PL, fundraising. Some income from fundraising. Projected balance after these transactions -- around $972.
Drug lab scandall. We signed on to a letter urging DA's to fix their mess. https://twitter.com/masspirates/status/836233460603834368. Good turn out at the protest.
Fundraising: Aaron spoke with ~50 people. 10--12 offered to contribute. Three contributions so far. A number of bad phone numbers to clean out. We'll take a break from fundraising for now, and do another push in April, before the conference.
Conference. Really do need to nail down venue. Will give tent city another day or so; will then try community church.
Goal: come up with a draft of pirate platform ("planks"), to finish off at piratecon. Previous work in this area: https://github.com/masspirates/planks
To Dos
Minutes
21:06 < jokeefe> lets get started
21:06 < jokeefe> Agenda:
https://masspirates.org/wiki/February_28th,_2017_IRC_Meeting
21:06 < papegaai> Title: February 28th, 2017 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate
Wiki (at masspirates.org)
21:06 < jokeefe> ids
21:06 < jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville
21:06 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington, MA
21:06 < jokeefe> Anything to review?
21:06 < srevilak> yes
21:06 < srevilak> Pride Parade registration.
21:07 < srevilak> I spoke with the organizers of Pride earlier tonight,
re: our registration
21:07 < def-not-G> oh it's also me, totally not G, Lowell . sorry i was
on the other page looking
21:07 < jokeefe> no worries def-not-G
21:07 < srevilak> The solidarity registration is something new, and
their board is vetting each group that signs up as "solidarity"
21:07 < def-not-G> in case the 2 or 3 of you didn't know who i was not
21:07 < srevilak> def-not-G: :)
21:08 < srevilak> I provided our EIN and explanation of how to access
or financials via OCPF
21:08 < srevilak> Their board will discuss us. But they may ask us to
pay a higher registration fee
21:08 < srevilak> should find out in a day or so
21:08 < srevilak> over
21:09 < srevilak> will keep you guys posted on how that works out
21:09 < srevilak> questions?
21:09 < igel> lo
21:09 < jokeefe> ok
21:09 < srevilak> hi igel
21:09 < igel> william fleurant, arlington ma
21:09 < jokeefe> ahoy igel
21:10 < igel> evening hi
21:10 < jokeefe> thanks for keeping us updated
21:10 < jokeefe> srevilak
21:10 < srevilak> Quartermaster update
21:11 < jokeefe> ok
21:11 < srevilak> Just paid Mayfirst. Received invoice from name.com,
which I'll pay tomorrow
21:11 < srevilak> Will also be cutting a check for fundraising expenses,
later this week
21:11 < jokeefe> I have a report on that later
21:12 < srevilak> okay, I'll let you report on the later
21:12 < srevilak> (end of quartermaster update)
21:12 < jokeefe> what do we have in the bank after expenses?
21:13 < srevilak> About $972.
21:13 < srevilak> That's before any extra expediture for pride
21:13 < jokeefe> thanks for the update
21:14 < srevilak> If nothing else, I'll move to the next review item
21:14 < srevilak> Piratecon venue
21:14 < jokeefe> We signed a letter urging the DAs to fix their mess
with the drug lab scandals
21:15 < jokeefe> 40 groups signed in all
21:15 < jokeefe> Good turn out at the protest yesterday
21:15 < def-not-G> what was protest? about the labs?
21:16 < jokeefe> yes -
https://twitter.com/masspirates/status/836233460603834368
21:16 < papegaai> Title: Mass. Pirate Party op Twitter: "Thanks
to @onekade for organizing & all who came out for justice for
10,000s of drug lab victims. Check out https://t.co/MBM5xnPw0i to
help! https://t.co/verMhbo8UG" (at twitter.com)
21:16 < jokeefe> well the 10,000s of people who were convicted with
false lab reports
21:17 < jokeefe> A group to keep in touch with about next steps. Lots
of tainted trials.
21:17 < srevilak> It's amazing how much a mess one individual managed
to make
21:18 < jokeefe> Yes, and apparently there is another person at the lab
in Amherst I think
21:18 < srevilak> ah
21:18 < jokeefe> Any other things for review?
21:18 < def-not-G> is this something we could attack legistlatively at
the state level?
21:19 < jokeefe> sure
21:19 < jokeefe> The SJC left it to the DAs to clean up, and gave them
a deadline
21:19 < srevilak> jokeefe: not review, but I'd like to talk about
Piratecon a little (when appropriate)
21:19 < jokeefe> ok
21:19 < jokeefe> Two groups: ones to free and one to try again
21:20 < jokeefe> If they don’t and SJC doesn’t do anything about it,
then legislature could
21:21 < jokeefe> Could put pressure on the legislature to get them to
make some noise.
21:21 < jokeefe> Is that something you want to check on def-not-G?
21:22 < def-not-G> what was Kade/ ACLUm pushing? a petition or anything?
21:23 < def-not-G> you guys well know my head is in foreign policy 90%
of the time. after the various debacles w ACLUm. RT4, and DT4 i stopped
bothering about state level politics
21:23 < jokeefe> not ACLU
21:24 < def-not-G> Kade is not ACLU anymore?
21:24 < jokeefe> side project
21:24 < jokeefe>
https://nodrugarrests.net/druglab/coalition-demands-dismissal-tainted-convit/
21:24 < papegaai> Title: Statewide coalition demands full dismissal of
all tainted convictions No Drug Arrests Collective (at nodrugarrests.net)
21:24 < jokeefe> letter called for dismissing all tainted convictions
21:25 < jokeefe> Gets attention for the issue.
21:26 < jokeefe> Any endorsements anyone want to propose?
21:27 < jokeefe> Otherwise, moving on to projects
21:28 < jokeefe> Fundraising & Conference
21:28 < jokeefe> Update on Aaron’s called
21:28 < jokeefe> He has phone #s for 150 people. Called each # 3 times.
21:28 < srevilak> Conference: haven't heard back from tent city.
Will write again
21:28 < jokeefe> ~10 wrong #s
21:29 < jokeefe> thanks, srevilak
21:29 < jokeefe> We should lock that down soon
21:29 < srevilak> (perhaps finish with fundraising, then come back
to conference?)
21:29 < def-not-G> daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn that's some dedication to phone
banking.
21:29 < def-not-G> phone banking sucks
21:30 < jokeefe> He spoke to ~50 people, 10-12 offered to give, have
received from 3 so far: $130
21:30 < jokeefe> He is going to follow up starting Friday. Probably with
emails, then then with a call.
21:31 * srevilak will clean out bad phone numbers sometime in the next
few days
21:31 < jokeefe> I believe he did that.
21:31 < jokeefe> But cannot hurt to check. Thanks
21:31 < srevilak> If Aaron already did that, my job will be quick :)
21:32 < jokeefe> We have more people in the database, but we need to
add phone numbers / email fundraiser
21:33 < jokeefe> He will hold off until we get more numbers, but should
revisit in early April once PirateCon is settled and tell people about it
21:34 < jokeefe> Will need to look at mailing folks as well.
21:34 < jokeefe> That is all I have
21:34 < jokeefe> on the conference - the page is up at
https://masspirates.org/blog/conference/
21:34 < papegaai> Title: PirateCon 2017 | Massachusetts Pirate Party
(at masspirates.org)
21:35 < jokeefe> I am going to reach out to volunteers about cleaning
up the 2015/2016 conference videos
21:35 < srevilak> Re: piratecon, if tent city doesnt' work out, any
thoughts for a plan B venue?
21:36 < jokeefe> Community Church?
21:36 < srevilak> Or democracy center?
21:38 < srevilak> Will try community church later in the week, if I
don't hear back from tent city
21:39 < jokeefe> Demo center has more rooms, but I thought was too busy.
21:40 < jokeefe> Community Church is wheel chair accessible.
21:40 < jokeefe> thanks, srevilak
21:40 < srevilak> yes, looking at Democracy center's calendar, they've
got a pretty packed agenda
21:40 < jokeefe> def-not-G, any update on Starting Local Chapters calls?
21:41 < srevilak> I have one other conference item
21:42 < igel> shoot
21:42 < def-not-G> i haven't called anyone in the past couple weeks. it's
not productive.
21:42 < jokeefe> sure
21:42 < jokeefe> srevilak
21:42 < jokeefe> please proceed
21:42 < srevilak> was at board of selectmens meeting last week, for
warrant article hearings
21:43 < srevilak> One group proposed a resolution article, based on
https://represent.us/
21:43 < papegaai> Title: End corruption. Defend the Republic. |
Represent.Us (at represent.us)
21:43 < srevilak> The selectmen voted no action, but I went to the
article proponents after meeting, to thank them for trying
21:44 < srevilak> Have to look at group a bit more, but they might be
worth inviting to give a panel
21:44 < srevilak> At the very least, some of the folks took the initiave
to petition our town's govt
21:44 < srevilak> (end of item)
21:45 < jokeefe> something to consider
21:46 < jokeefe> def-not-G: calls aren’t productive?
21:48 < def-not-G> i mean we been over this. you want me to recruit to a
political party that doesn't have a legislative mission. we need a call
to action that is branded with our name to get people on board to advance
our mission, or else i don't know how to rally troops without a banner
21:51 < jokeefe> ok. personally, I lead with getting the corrupt sobs
out who shuffle our money off to Hollywood and big corporations while
raising taxes on the poor and middle class, but if you feel we need more,
we should work on that
21:52 < def-not-G> but what does that mean?
21:52 < def-not-G> change for the sake of change ain't winning no
popularity contest unless you wanna arc to the hard right
21:53 < srevilak> There could be merit in pushing back against the
one-party system in MA
21:53 < jokeefe> yeah, but even that isn’t enough.
21:53 < igel> hmm
21:54 < igel> bernie sanders has legislative mission
21:54 < def-not-G> absolutely, Steve. but we need a signature plank to
be like., "this is what we are trying to do"
21:54 < def-not-G> Sanders... ya bombing the crap out of everyone is
his mission :P
21:54 < srevilak> I think I see what def-not-G is struggling with:
form a local group, but what does the local group do?
21:54 < igel> i'm not so sure he said that
21:55 < srevilak> Or, what kind of project does the local group work on?
21:55 < jokeefe> well not explicitly, igel
21:55 < def-not-G> well it's what does our state party do? the locals
shoudl support the state mission
21:57 < def-not-G> that mission should be legislative. this Kade
thing... maybe we can work something out of that. i dunno. the feds are
about to crack down hard it looks like, now's the time but we can't get
caught up supporting and being proxies to others. we gotta takea lead
on something to pull people to our banner
21:57 < jokeefe> agreed
21:57 < jokeefe> been using the cryptoparties, but that only goes so far
21:57 < srevilak> Yes, we want to nail down a short list
21:58 < def-not-G> looks like that bastard is coming for our weed, too.
21:58 < def-not-G> #ComeAndTokeIt, mofos
21:58 < def-not-G> :D
21:58 < srevilak> I think Jeff Session is definitely coming for your weed
21:58 < def-not-G> i don't blame him. it's good stuff. lol
21:58 < jokeefe> lol
21:59 < jokeefe> srevilak, how goes the alternatives to irc tech task?
21:59 < srevilak> You mean the discussion board?
21:59 < jokeefe> aye
22:00 < igel> oof
22:00 < jokeefe> We can finalize our planks at PirateCon, but there
needs to be a lot of discussion in the next two months
22:00 < srevilak> Puer and I had started looking at discourse
22:00 < jokeefe> And I have the bboard software on my plate
22:01 < srevilak> Discourse relies on certain absolute paths (e.g.,
putting things in /var). Unless we can figure out how to more things
around, we'd need a dedicated VM
22:01 < srevilak> mybb (I think, what the DE pirates use) seems like
less adminstrative/setup overhead
22:02 < jokeefe> how much more is that?
22:02 < srevilak> Will have to ask
22:02 < jokeefe> well, if you two want to focus on myBB, I am happy to
relinquish that task to you
22:03 < srevilak> Will have to ask MF/PL. Alternative is looking
at another hosting provider, and perhaps its not something we keep
permanently
22:03 < jokeefe> kind of need to keep it permanently
22:03 < igel> i have metal.. can host/maintain
22:04 < igel> dedicated metal, in datacenters with privacy laws :)
22:04 < jokeefe> thanks
22:04 < jokeefe> def-not-G is right, we need to finalize our platform
and PirateCon is a good due date
22:05 < igel> if it saves time/money, feel free to ping me ill put on
my shortlist w/ a proposed setup
22:06 < srevilak> thanks, igel
22:06 < jokeefe> Will dig up what we put in the git repo. Can see if we
can gel it down to 9-10 weeks worth of stuff and post a blog entry a week
22:07 < jokeefe> We are at time
22:07 < jokeefe> But to be sure. Aim for our planks for PirateCon for
final approval?
22:08 < igel> yeah time to get hype
22:08 < srevilak> jokeefe: agreed, time to mend the plans
22:08 < srevilak> jokeefe: agreed, time to mend the planks
22:08 < def-not-G> aye. if we want to grow we should try to figure our
planks by the end of the convention, like the big boys do :P
22:08 < jokeefe> you good def-not-G?
22:08 < def-not-G> ...big boys and girls
22:08 < def-not-G> whatever
22:08 < jokeefe> lol
22:09 < jokeefe> motion to adjourn. got a 2nd?
22:09 < def-not-G> trying to be inclusive. lol :P
22:09 < srevilak> second
22:09 < def-not-G> senconded
22:09 < srevilak> will post transcript