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* 6/21, Edward Snowden's Birthday | * 6/21, Edward Snowden's Birthday | ||
* 6/28, 6-9pm, ''[https://www.cryptoparty.in/boston Somerville Cryptoparty]'', The Sprouts, 339R Summer Street, Somerville | * 6/28, 6-9pm, ''[https://www.cryptoparty.in/boston Somerville Cryptoparty]'', The Sprouts, 339R Summer Street, Somerville | ||
* 7/9, [https://www.defectivebydesign.org/dayagainstdrm Day against DRM] | |||
See: [https://masspirates.org/wiki/2017_Event_Calendar 2017 calendar] | See: [https://masspirates.org/wiki/2017_Event_Calendar 2017 calendar] | ||
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Planks & Other discussions. Loomio looks pretty good. Would be nice to tie logins together across tools (e.g., LDAP or OpenID), but that's a future project. | Planks & Other discussions. Loomio looks pretty good. Would be nice to tie logins together across tools (e.g., LDAP or OpenID), but that's a future project. | ||
Local Chapters. Somerville has a chapter meeting tomorrow. Jamie will follow-up with | Local Chapters. Somerville has a chapter meeting tomorrow. Jamie will follow-up with contacts, re: Boston and Lowell chapters. | ||
Boston Pride. Have facebook event and [https://masspirates.org/crew/forms/march-boston-pride-parade-2017 signup form]. | |||
Day against DRM. | |||
== Minutes == | == Minutes == | ||
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21:08 < jokeefe> agenda: | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/May_23rd,_2017_IRC_Meeting | |||
21:08 < jokeefe> ids | |||
21:08 < papegaai> Title: May 23rd, 2017 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki | |||
(at masspirates.org) | |||
21:08 < jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville | |||
21:08 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington | |||
21:09 < hvxgr> Tom Rodman - Milwaukee | |||
21:10 < Moses> Moses - West Tisbury | |||
21:10 < jokeefe> anything to add? | |||
21:11 < srevilak> nothing here | |||
21:12 < Moses> same | |||
21:12 < hvxgr> Was thinking I could share a short list of my skills, that | |||
might be used, I could email them to jokeefe, between now and next mtg? | |||
21:13 < jokeefe> info@masspirates.org works | |||
21:13 < hvxgr> k | |||
21:14 < jokeefe> The Chelsea Manning is free party went well. | |||
good attendence. Raised some money for chelsea | |||
21:15 < jokeefe> Folks can still give at | |||
https://www.gofundme.com/welcomehomechelsea | |||
21:18 < jokeefe> Projects - Our Elections | |||
21:19 < jokeefe> Putting the ballot together | |||
21:20 < jokeefe> will have it emailed by Wednesday | |||
21:20 < jokeefe> Planks & Other Discussions | |||
21:20 < jokeefe> Making progress. Loomio looks good | |||
21:22 < jokeefe> Think we can have it full figured out by next week | |||
21:22 < hvxgr> Good. At some point would be interesting to know how | |||
identities or users are all tied together across these tools (if at all). | |||
21:23 < srevilak> Loomio did have some nice decision making aids | |||
21:24 < srevilak> hvxgr: at the moment, identities not tied together | |||
across tools | |||
21:24 < jokeefe> yes, that is a solution we need hvxgr. thinking LDAP | |||
21:24 < srevilak> Or OpenID | |||
21:24 < srevilak> Or similar | |||
21:24 < hvxgr> I have been looking at freeipa, but it may be overkill. | |||
21:25 < jokeefe> OpenID is good too. | |||
21:25 < jokeefe> haven’t seen freeipa | |||
21:26 < jokeefe> Local Chapters | |||
21:26 < hvxgr> freeipa bundles kerberos, ldap, dns and a few other tools. | |||
I think it's from redhat. | |||
21:26 < jokeefe> Somerville has a meetup tomorrow | |||
21:26 < jokeefe> thanks hvxgr | |||
21:26 < jokeefe> kerberos goes back | |||
21:26 < hvxgr> sure | |||
21:27 < jokeefe> will follow up with Boston contact. | |||
21:27 < jokeefe> reached out the Lowell contact | |||
21:27 < jokeefe> Boston Pride Parade | |||
21:27 < jokeefe> setup facebook event | |||
21:28 < hvxgr> kerberos allows secure NFS4 | |||
21:28 < jokeefe> NFS another blast from the past | |||
21:29 < hvxgr> (I'm old) | |||
21:30 < jokeefe> fond memories of NFS over UDP on DOS ;-) | |||
21:31 < hvxgr> I could get us way OT -- pc-nfs etc. DOS network stack | |||
etc... | |||
21:32 < jokeefe> :-) | |||
21:33 < jokeefe> will get email announcements about it out as well | |||
21:33 < jokeefe> Day against DRM | |||
21:34 < jokeefe> Wanted to see if we wanted to help FSF with a Mass. Day | |||
against DRM event | |||
21:35 < srevilak> jokeefe: offhand, do you know the proposed date? | |||
21:35 < srevilak> Ah, July 9th | |||
https://www.defectivebydesign.org/dayagainstdrm | |||
21:35 < papegaai> Title: Leaders needed for the International Day Against | |||
DRM | Defective by Design (at www.defectivebydesign.org) | |||
21:35 < jokeefe> Sunday, July 9th | |||
21:38 < jokeefe> ideas? | |||
21:38 < srevilak> As in, what can we do? | |||
21:39 < jokeefe> yes | |||
21:39 < srevilak> (brainstorming) leaflet describing what DRM is, and | |||
why the FSF and Pirate Party think it's a harmful idea | |||
21:40 < hvxgr> Do you already have a wiki page of your own or copy of | |||
your own about DRM? If not, could start one. | |||
21:40 < srevilak> I almost like the idea of tabling out in the middle | |||
of a public place | |||
21:42 < hvxgr> srevilak: I think that could work. It impacts almost | |||
all of us, I think. (I'm a but GPL/FLOSS fan.) | |||
21:43 < srevilak> I've been to a few FSF anti-DRM events. There tends | |||
to be a lot of flyering | |||
21:44 < jokeefe> could work | |||
21:44 < srevilak> DRM has become a much bigger problem during the last | |||
few years | |||
21:44 < srevilak> DRM + DCMA effectively lets corporations turn business | |||
preferences into law | |||
21:45 < srevilak> Sorry, DMCA, not DCMA | |||
21:47 < jokeefe> Suggest we run it by Zak and see what FSF thinks | |||
21:47 < srevilak> Another obvious thing to do is a march - but I | |||
(personally) like the idea of sitting around talking to people more | |||
than marching | |||
21:49 < srevilak> jokeefe: sounds good | |||
21:49 < srevilak> these days, there's a lot of overlap between DRM and | |||
right to repair | |||
21:49 < jokeefe> yes | |||
21:53 < jokeefe> both have their qualities | |||
21:54 < jokeefe> Will email Zak. Finalize next meeting? | |||
21:54 < hvxgr> ok | |||
21:55 < srevilak> ok | |||
21:56 < jokeefe> nothing else on the agenda. we are almost at time | |||
21:57 < srevilak> motion to adjourn? | |||
21:57 < srevilak> (aside) speaking of DRM: | |||
https://consumerist.com/2017/03/23/why-you-should-care-about-the-supreme-court-case-on-toner-cartridges/ | |||
21:58 < srevilak> have to read up on that supreme court case | |||
21:58 < jokeefe> thanks | |||
21:58 < jokeefe> 2nd | |||
21:58 < hvxgr> good night all | |||
21:58 < jokeefe> night | |||
21:59 < srevilak> will post transcript | |||
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Latest revision as of 21:01, 23 May 2017
Review
Decisions/Endorsements
Projects
Our Elections
Email sent. Nominations by today. Election ballot by the 30th. To Do:
Send email reminder about nominations this week and next- Setup ballot (jokeefe)
- Send out ballot this week and before polls close (jokeefe)
Planks & Other Discussions
- Discussion
- Reviewed Loomio instance. Looks good. Looking at how to invite people.
- myBB installed, but not setup completely (jokeefe)
- Installing mattermost as slack alternative (jokeefe)
- Installed Matrix client (Riot), but we would need our own server to not be dependent on matrix.org servers.
- Previous work in this area: https://github.com/masspirates/planks
- Results of the PirateCon discussion posted
Local Chapters
Boston Pride Parade
Day against DRM
Day Against DRM is Sunday, July 9th. The FSF is looking for people to setup events worldwide and asked if we wanted to help organize an event in Massachusetts.
Upcoming Events
- 5/24, 6-7pm, Somerville Pirates Meeting, Diesel Cafe
- 5/31, 6-9pm, Somerville Cryptoparty, The Sprouts, 339R Summer Street, Somerville
- 6/3, 5-7pm, LGBT-focused Cryptoparty, Make Shift Boston, 549 Columbus Ave, Boston
- 6/10, Boston Pride Parade, Boston
- 6/21, Edward Snowden's Birthday
- 6/28, 6-9pm, Somerville Cryptoparty, The Sprouts, 339R Summer Street, Somerville
- 7/9, Day against DRM
See: 2017 calendar
Participants
- jokeefe (James O’Keefe, Somerville)
- hvxgr (Tom Rodman - Milwaukee)
- Moses (Moses - West Tisbury)
- srevilak (Steve Revilak, Arlington)
Observers
- davidd
- papegaai
- igel
Summary
Chelsea Manning party went well. Folks can donate at https://www.gofundme.com/welcomehomechelsea
Our elections. Planning to have ballot mailed by Wed.
Planks & Other discussions. Loomio looks pretty good. Would be nice to tie logins together across tools (e.g., LDAP or OpenID), but that's a future project.
Local Chapters. Somerville has a chapter meeting tomorrow. Jamie will follow-up with contacts, re: Boston and Lowell chapters.
Boston Pride. Have facebook event and signup form.
Day against DRM.
Minutes
21:08 < jokeefe> agenda: https://masspirates.org/wiki/May_23rd,_2017_IRC_Meeting 21:08 < jokeefe> ids 21:08 < papegaai> Title: May 23rd, 2017 IRC Meeting - Mass Pirate Wiki (at masspirates.org) 21:08 < jokeefe> James O’Keefe, Somerville 21:08 < srevilak> Steve Revilak, Arlington 21:09 < hvxgr> Tom Rodman - Milwaukee 21:10 < Moses> Moses - West Tisbury 21:10 < jokeefe> anything to add? 21:11 < srevilak> nothing here 21:12 < Moses> same 21:12 < hvxgr> Was thinking I could share a short list of my skills, that might be used, I could email them to jokeefe, between now and next mtg? 21:13 < jokeefe> info@masspirates.org works 21:13 < hvxgr> k 21:14 < jokeefe> The Chelsea Manning is free party went well. good attendence. Raised some money for chelsea 21:15 < jokeefe> Folks can still give at https://www.gofundme.com/welcomehomechelsea 21:18 < jokeefe> Projects - Our Elections 21:19 < jokeefe> Putting the ballot together 21:20 < jokeefe> will have it emailed by Wednesday 21:20 < jokeefe> Planks & Other Discussions 21:20 < jokeefe> Making progress. Loomio looks good 21:22 < jokeefe> Think we can have it full figured out by next week 21:22 < hvxgr> Good. At some point would be interesting to know how identities or users are all tied together across these tools (if at all). 21:23 < srevilak> Loomio did have some nice decision making aids 21:24 < srevilak> hvxgr: at the moment, identities not tied together across tools 21:24 < jokeefe> yes, that is a solution we need hvxgr. thinking LDAP 21:24 < srevilak> Or OpenID 21:24 < srevilak> Or similar 21:24 < hvxgr> I have been looking at freeipa, but it may be overkill. 21:25 < jokeefe> OpenID is good too. 21:25 < jokeefe> haven’t seen freeipa 21:26 < jokeefe> Local Chapters 21:26 < hvxgr> freeipa bundles kerberos, ldap, dns and a few other tools. I think it's from redhat. 21:26 < jokeefe> Somerville has a meetup tomorrow 21:26 < jokeefe> thanks hvxgr 21:26 < jokeefe> kerberos goes back 21:26 < hvxgr> sure 21:27 < jokeefe> will follow up with Boston contact. 21:27 < jokeefe> reached out the Lowell contact 21:27 < jokeefe> Boston Pride Parade 21:27 < jokeefe> setup facebook event 21:28 < hvxgr> kerberos allows secure NFS4 21:28 < jokeefe> NFS another blast from the past 21:29 < hvxgr> (I'm old) 21:30 < jokeefe> fond memories of NFS over UDP on DOS ;-) 21:31 < hvxgr> I could get us way OT -- pc-nfs etc. DOS network stack etc... 21:32 < jokeefe> :-) 21:33 < jokeefe> will get email announcements about it out as well 21:33 < jokeefe> Day against DRM 21:34 < jokeefe> Wanted to see if we wanted to help FSF with a Mass. Day against DRM event 21:35 < srevilak> jokeefe: offhand, do you know the proposed date? 21:35 < srevilak> Ah, July 9th https://www.defectivebydesign.org/dayagainstdrm 21:35 < papegaai> Title: Leaders needed for the International Day Against DRM | Defective by Design (at www.defectivebydesign.org) 21:35 < jokeefe> Sunday, July 9th 21:38 < jokeefe> ideas? 21:38 < srevilak> As in, what can we do? 21:39 < jokeefe> yes 21:39 < srevilak> (brainstorming) leaflet describing what DRM is, and why the FSF and Pirate Party think it's a harmful idea 21:40 < hvxgr> Do you already have a wiki page of your own or copy of your own about DRM? If not, could start one. 21:40 < srevilak> I almost like the idea of tabling out in the middle of a public place 21:42 < hvxgr> srevilak: I think that could work. It impacts almost all of us, I think. (I'm a but GPL/FLOSS fan.) 21:43 < srevilak> I've been to a few FSF anti-DRM events. There tends to be a lot of flyering 21:44 < jokeefe> could work 21:44 < srevilak> DRM has become a much bigger problem during the last few years 21:44 < srevilak> DRM + DCMA effectively lets corporations turn business preferences into law 21:45 < srevilak> Sorry, DMCA, not DCMA 21:47 < jokeefe> Suggest we run it by Zak and see what FSF thinks 21:47 < srevilak> Another obvious thing to do is a march - but I (personally) like the idea of sitting around talking to people more than marching 21:49 < srevilak> jokeefe: sounds good 21:49 < srevilak> these days, there's a lot of overlap between DRM and right to repair 21:49 < jokeefe> yes 21:53 < jokeefe> both have their qualities 21:54 < jokeefe> Will email Zak. Finalize next meeting? 21:54 < hvxgr> ok 21:55 < srevilak> ok 21:56 < jokeefe> nothing else on the agenda. we are almost at time 21:57 < srevilak> motion to adjourn? 21:57 < srevilak> (aside) speaking of DRM: https://consumerist.com/2017/03/23/why-you-should-care-about-the-supreme-court-case-on-toner-cartridges/ 21:58 < srevilak> have to read up on that supreme court case 21:58 < jokeefe> thanks 21:58 < jokeefe> 2nd 21:58 < hvxgr> good night all 21:58 < jokeefe> night 21:59 < srevilak> will post transcript