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21:16 <@jokeefe> Oh, ok. It should be live now. | |||
21:16 <@jokeefe> ahoy srevilak | |||
21:16 < Joe> I can but currently under lock down | |||
21:16 < Joe> ahoy | |||
21:16 < srevilak> hi all, just saw email that we were meeting tonight | |||
21:16 < Malt> Welcome! | |||
21:17 <@jokeefe> no worries. | |||
21:17 <@jokeefe> Schedule look good for you? | |||
https://masspirates.org/wiki/November_4th,_2020_IRC_Meeting#Set_schedule_for_the_conference | |||
21:17 <@jokeefe> If you can edit the video Joe, that would be great. | |||
21:18 < srevilak> Looks good | |||
21:18 < Joe> can you upload it to mass youtube as a private video? | |||
21:18 <@jokeefe> great | |||
21:19 <@jokeefe> I would need to download the video first from youtube | |||
21:21 <@jokeefe> Choose date to date video conference software | |||
21:21 < Joe> is it on there already on there? | |||
21:21 <@jokeefe> I have the account for the video conference | |||
software. When could we test it? | |||
21:21 < srevilak> What is "date to date video conference software"? | |||
21:22 <@jokeefe> srevilak, did we agree to try Saturday at 11am? | |||
21:22 < srevilak> Not sure, but I can make it | |||
21:22 <@jokeefe> corrected - Choose date to test video conference software | |||
21:23 < srevilak> ah! | |||
21:23 <@jokeefe> Joe, could you do a test Saturday at 11am? | |||
21:23 <@jokeefe> Also Malt? | |||
21:24 < Joe> Right before the conference? | |||
21:24 <@jokeefe> I updated OS and now IRC chat doesn’t automatically | |||
show the latest messages | |||
21:24 <@jokeefe> Week before the conference | |||
21:24 <@jokeefe> this Saturday | |||
21:25 < Malt> I can, yes | |||
21:25 < Malt> That's a fun bug! | |||
21:25 < Joe> I can do a test this weekend but will be quite distracted. | |||
21:25 <@jokeefe> Have to keep scrolling up, Malt. It is a bit annoying. | |||
21:26 < Joe> should not be an issue so long as it is only a test. | |||
21:26 <@jokeefe> Saturday, 11am it is. Will send out email to | |||
democracy/activists lists | |||
21:26 <@jokeefe> Projects | |||
21:27 <@jokeefe> Video Newsletter/Podcast - Sunday 7pm recording ok? | |||
21:27 < Malt> Yup! | |||
21:27 < srevilak> yes | |||
21:28 < Joe> Aye | |||
21:28 <@jokeefe> Topic ideas? | |||
21:28 < Joe> Pirate conference really. | |||
21:29 < srevilak> Does the rise and fall of fascism occur in cycles? | |||
21:29 < srevilak> Too much? | |||
21:29 < Joe> like the tides | |||
21:29 <@jokeefe> Pirate conference promo would be good | |||
21:29 <@jokeefe> srevilak, lol | |||
21:29 < Joe> on a scale of human social memory. | |||
21:30 < srevilak> Make 1946 great again! | |||
21:30 <@jokeefe> seems too early to discuss it going out with the tides | |||
21:30 <@jokeefe> aye, srevilak | |||
21:30 < Joe> lol | |||
21:30 < srevilak> One of my co-workers thinks it's a 100-year tide. | |||
So, just starting to come in | |||
21:31 * Joe sighs. | |||
21:31 < Malt> I thought it was 250ish | |||
21:31 < srevilak> Malt: Think 1920's | |||
21:31 < Malt> Oh | |||
21:31 < Malt> Hm | |||
21:31 < srevilak> shit ... | |||
21:32 < srevilak> Sorry, I'm just grumpy tonight | |||
21:32 < Joe> Biden is winning at least. | |||
21:32 <@jokeefe> got the popular vote at least | |||
21:32 < Joe> silver linings | |||
21:33 < Joe> this year the choice was either crazy or senile. | |||
21:33 < Joe> lets really start preparing for running candidates again | |||
21:34 <@jokeefe> aye that | |||
21:34 <@jokeefe> Democracy and Dogfood (Tech) - meeting set for 11am sat. | |||
21:35 < Malt> Pissed we lost q2 | |||
21:35 <@jokeefe> Regional Meetings/Events - Party Conference | |||
21:35 <@jokeefe> Setup an etherpad: | |||
https://etherpad.pp-international.net/p/MAPP2020PartyConferencePlanning | |||
21:36 < srevilak> Malt: yeah, Q2 was disappointing | |||
21:36 <@jokeefe> Agree Malt, but it took three ballot initiatives to get | |||
greyhound racing banned. I think there are things we can do to improve | |||
the results next time. | |||
21:38 <@jokeefe> They only got proportional representation in New Zealand | |||
when they kept electing minority governments with FPTP. | |||
21:38 < Malt> Get it on the front page? I heard some folk didn't turn | |||
theirs over | |||
21:38 < Joe> a lot of people seemed to be misinformed about RCV. they | |||
think the old system has work for 200+ years, why change... | |||
21:38 <@jokeefe> That would help | |||
21:39 <@jokeefe> Will have to look at the official results and see how | |||
many didn’t make a choice. | |||
21:39 < srevilak> What read do you get from this map: | |||
https://www.bostonglobe.com/elections/2020/ma/Question/2%20-%20Create%20Ranked-Choice%20Voting/ | |||
21:40 <@jokeefe> Doesn’t list abstains, unfortunately. | |||
21:41 < srevilak> I was thinking more in terms of the clusters of cities | |||
that voted yes, vs the ones that didn't | |||
21:41 <@jokeefe> good point | |||
21:43 <@jokeefe> Boston area Rt 2 corridor and Pioneer Valley, parts of | |||
the Berkshires | |||
21:43 < srevilak> Compare with Q1: | |||
https://www.bostonglobe.com/elections/2020/ma/Question/1%20-%20Amend%20Right%20to%20Repair%20Law/ | |||
21:43 < Malt> The dem establishment seemed lukewarm | |||
21:43 < srevilak> Of cities reporting, Georgetown is the only one that | |||
went no | |||
21:45 <@jokeefe> Springfield total vote is 47,000, which seems small | |||
21:46 < srevilak> Indeed. Population is 153k | |||
21:46 < Joe> I do not have much to add tonight, sorry. very distracted | |||
by my son whom is still awake. | |||
21:46 < Malt> I can't focus worth a single gosh darn | |||
21:48 <@jokeefe> Let’s end then. Please add conference planning items | |||
to https://etherpad.pp-international.net/p/MAPP2020PartyConferencePlanning | |||
21:49 < srevilak> will do | |||
21:49 < srevilak> Next, off to $work call at 22:00. | |||
21:49 < srevilak> will post transcript | |||
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Revision as of 21:51, 4 November 2020
Review
Decisions/Endorsements
Set schedule for the conference
Saturday
- noon-12:15pm - Captain's Introduction and Year Review
- 12:15-1pm - Where do we go from here?
- 1-2pm - Platform Discussion
- 2-2:30pm - Break
- 2:30-3:30pm - Speakers
- 3:30-4:30pm - Platform Discussion
- 4:30+ - Pirate Beer
Sunday
- noon-12:30pm - Quartermaster's Introduction and Finances Report
- 12:30-2:00pm - Platform Discussion
- 2-2:30pm - Break
- 2:30-3:30pm - Platform Discussion
- 3:30-4:30pm - Platform Discussion
Speakers:
- Steve Revilak
How housing polices were used to segregate communities in the 20th century. There will be emphasis on zoning, which is generally the domain of local governments.
- Alexander Isavnin
State activities related to censorship, surveillance, political oppression on examples from Russia and neighboring countries.
- James O'Keefe
Running for office (can be prerecorded)
Choose date to test video conference software
Projects
Goals for Q3 2020:
- Organize meetups
- Revise platform
- Organize Fundraiser
- Organize candidate trainings
Video Newsletter/Podcast
Leader: Joseph
- Next pirate news recording scheduled for Sunday, 7pm unless changed
Democracy and Dogfood (Tech)
Surveillance Mapping
- Come up with a how to instructions
- Paper - done
- iPhone - done
- Android
- Come up with how to videos
Regional Meetings/Events
In-person events, including outdoor events, on hold until COVID-19 numbers go down.
Leader: jokeefe
Party Conference
- Schedule regular posts on blog
- Dividing up the platform and coming up with draft items
Dec. 4th Day Against DRM
2021
Boston Pride Festival
- table booked
- setup signup sheet
- Announce
- Need to purchase insurance
- Need volunteer sign up form
- Tie to an activity, mapping the CCTV cameras in Boston or along the Pride parade route?
Campaigns
- Free the Moderna Vaccine
- Planning meeting upcoming. Contact jokeefe for details if you want to attend.
- Planning new event
- Yes on 1
- Post on our support for it
- Who could reach out to campaign to ask how we can help?
- Yes on 2
- Post reminder of our support for it
- jokeefe reached out to campaign on helping. Will followup.
- Yard signs available.
Bills
Federal
- EARN IT Act
- PATRIOT Act renewal
State
- Legislature extended session
- Push to get Right to Repair bill to a vote.
- Some of facial recognition moratorium is in the police reform bill
Computer donations
Platform Discussion
Moved to 2020 Platform Discussion
Other To Do
- Application to PPI
- Post statement on Archive.org Suit
- Post statement on our support for Question 1: open access to vehicle telematics systems.
- Post statement on our opposition to S.4051 - Lawful Access to Encrypted Data Act.
- Post statement on retaining section 230 protections. Docket RM-11862. Per TechDirt, 9/17 is the last date for submissions for the 2nd round. - done
Tabled Projects
FOSS Tutorials
Worcester farm group is interested in having some FOSS tutorials. Perhaps:
- how to do basic labels in GIMP,
- work through a few sample spreadsheets related to seed cost and
- similarly applicable real-world situations, depending on the needs of the group
Basically how to do graph design & product management with open source tools. Malt will put together a one paragraph description of what we need and we can mail it out to ask pirates to help.
Upcoming Events
- Every Tuesday, 7-9pm, Mass MeshNet Tech Meeting, on-line
- 10/31, 11am-1pm, Democracy and Dogfood (Tech) Meeting, on-line
- 11/14-15, Party Conference
Participants
- Olivia_: Olivia Kristiann, PPI volunteer
- jokeefe: James O’Keefe, Somerville
- Joe: Joseph Onoroski, Lowell
- Malt: Sam capradae, Worcester
Observers
- ChanServ
- hvxgr
- Deffy
- mikey
Summary
11am Saturday. Test video system for piratecon
7pm Sunday. Pirate news recording.
Conference planning: https://etherpad.pp-international.net/p/MAPP2020PartyConferencePlanning
Minutes
21:16 <@jokeefe> Oh, ok. It should be live now. 21:16 <@jokeefe> ahoy srevilak 21:16 < Joe> I can but currently under lock down 21:16 < Joe> ahoy 21:16 < srevilak> hi all, just saw email that we were meeting tonight 21:16 < Malt> Welcome! 21:17 <@jokeefe> no worries. 21:17 <@jokeefe> Schedule look good for you? https://masspirates.org/wiki/November_4th,_2020_IRC_Meeting#Set_schedule_for_the_conference 21:17 <@jokeefe> If you can edit the video Joe, that would be great. 21:18 < srevilak> Looks good 21:18 < Joe> can you upload it to mass youtube as a private video? 21:18 <@jokeefe> great 21:19 <@jokeefe> I would need to download the video first from youtube 21:21 <@jokeefe> Choose date to date video conference software 21:21 < Joe> is it on there already on there? 21:21 <@jokeefe> I have the account for the video conference software. When could we test it? 21:21 < srevilak> What is "date to date video conference software"? 21:22 <@jokeefe> srevilak, did we agree to try Saturday at 11am? 21:22 < srevilak> Not sure, but I can make it 21:22 <@jokeefe> corrected - Choose date to test video conference software 21:23 < srevilak> ah! 21:23 <@jokeefe> Joe, could you do a test Saturday at 11am? 21:23 <@jokeefe> Also Malt? 21:24 < Joe> Right before the conference? 21:24 <@jokeefe> I updated OS and now IRC chat doesn’t automatically show the latest messages 21:24 <@jokeefe> Week before the conference 21:24 <@jokeefe> this Saturday 21:25 < Malt> I can, yes 21:25 < Malt> That's a fun bug! 21:25 < Joe> I can do a test this weekend but will be quite distracted. 21:25 <@jokeefe> Have to keep scrolling up, Malt. It is a bit annoying. 21:26 < Joe> should not be an issue so long as it is only a test. 21:26 <@jokeefe> Saturday, 11am it is. Will send out email to democracy/activists lists 21:26 <@jokeefe> Projects 21:27 <@jokeefe> Video Newsletter/Podcast - Sunday 7pm recording ok? 21:27 < Malt> Yup! 21:27 < srevilak> yes 21:28 < Joe> Aye 21:28 <@jokeefe> Topic ideas? 21:28 < Joe> Pirate conference really. 21:29 < srevilak> Does the rise and fall of fascism occur in cycles? 21:29 < srevilak> Too much? 21:29 < Joe> like the tides 21:29 <@jokeefe> Pirate conference promo would be good 21:29 <@jokeefe> srevilak, lol 21:29 < Joe> on a scale of human social memory. 21:30 < srevilak> Make 1946 great again! 21:30 <@jokeefe> seems too early to discuss it going out with the tides 21:30 <@jokeefe> aye, srevilak 21:30 < Joe> lol 21:30 < srevilak> One of my co-workers thinks it's a 100-year tide. So, just starting to come in 21:31 * Joe sighs. 21:31 < Malt> I thought it was 250ish 21:31 < srevilak> Malt: Think 1920's 21:31 < Malt> Oh 21:31 < Malt> Hm 21:31 < srevilak> shit ... 21:32 < srevilak> Sorry, I'm just grumpy tonight 21:32 < Joe> Biden is winning at least. 21:32 <@jokeefe> got the popular vote at least 21:32 < Joe> silver linings 21:33 < Joe> this year the choice was either crazy or senile. 21:33 < Joe> lets really start preparing for running candidates again 21:34 <@jokeefe> aye that 21:34 <@jokeefe> Democracy and Dogfood (Tech) - meeting set for 11am sat. 21:35 < Malt> Pissed we lost q2 21:35 <@jokeefe> Regional Meetings/Events - Party Conference 21:35 <@jokeefe> Setup an etherpad: https://etherpad.pp-international.net/p/MAPP2020PartyConferencePlanning 21:36 < srevilak> Malt: yeah, Q2 was disappointing 21:36 <@jokeefe> Agree Malt, but it took three ballot initiatives to get greyhound racing banned. I think there are things we can do to improve the results next time. 21:38 <@jokeefe> They only got proportional representation in New Zealand when they kept electing minority governments with FPTP. 21:38 < Malt> Get it on the front page? I heard some folk didn't turn theirs over 21:38 < Joe> a lot of people seemed to be misinformed about RCV. they think the old system has work for 200+ years, why change... 21:38 <@jokeefe> That would help 21:39 <@jokeefe> Will have to look at the official results and see how many didn’t make a choice. 21:39 < srevilak> What read do you get from this map: https://www.bostonglobe.com/elections/2020/ma/Question/2%20-%20Create%20Ranked-Choice%20Voting/ 21:40 <@jokeefe> Doesn’t list abstains, unfortunately. 21:41 < srevilak> I was thinking more in terms of the clusters of cities that voted yes, vs the ones that didn't 21:41 <@jokeefe> good point 21:43 <@jokeefe> Boston area Rt 2 corridor and Pioneer Valley, parts of the Berkshires 21:43 < srevilak> Compare with Q1: https://www.bostonglobe.com/elections/2020/ma/Question/1%20-%20Amend%20Right%20to%20Repair%20Law/ 21:43 < Malt> The dem establishment seemed lukewarm 21:43 < srevilak> Of cities reporting, Georgetown is the only one that went no 21:45 <@jokeefe> Springfield total vote is 47,000, which seems small 21:46 < srevilak> Indeed. Population is 153k 21:46 < Joe> I do not have much to add tonight, sorry. very distracted by my son whom is still awake. 21:46 < Malt> I can't focus worth a single gosh darn 21:48 <@jokeefe> Let’s end then. Please add conference planning items to https://etherpad.pp-international.net/p/MAPP2020PartyConferencePlanning 21:49 < srevilak> will do 21:49 < srevilak> Next, off to $work call at 22:00. 21:49 < srevilak> will post transcript