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[9:11pm] jokeefe: Ok, sorry for the delay - agenda: http://masspirates.org/wiki/August_22nd,_2013_IRC_Meeting | |||
[9:12pm] jokeefe: ids - James O'Keefe, Somerville | |||
[9:12pm] Igel: oh no it went to... email | |||
[9:12pm] js0000: Igel: i've been communicating with srevilak jokeefe about this | |||
[9:12pm] Bluestreak: Lucia Fiero, Medway | |||
[9:12pm] js0000: john saylor 'watch city' [waltham] | |||
[9:12pm] • Igel fell off the planet bout it | |||
[9:13pm] JCFiero: Jason Fiero - Medway MA | |||
[9:13pm] srevilak: Steve Revilak, Arlington | |||
[9:13pm] Igel: William Fleurant, Arlington MA | |||
[9:13pm] Bluestreak: oneiros | |||
[9:13pm] oneiros: Yes? | |||
[9:13pm] Bluestreak: ID? | |||
[9:13pm] Kendra: Kendra Moyer Arlington | |||
[9:14pm] jokeefe: as much as you want | |||
[9:14pm] MassKopimiPP: Adam Seaman Southwick | |||
[9:14pm] oneiros: Dragone, Deerfield (Good enough? New to this) | |||
[9:14pm] Bluestreak: I'm fine with that | |||
[9:14pm] Bluestreak: Adam, I thought you were leaving us? | |||
[9:15pm] srevilak: MassKopimiPP changed his mind | |||
[9:15pm] jokeefe: thank you oneiros | |||
[9:15pm] jokeefe: good to have someone from well outside Boston | |||
[9:15pm] oneiros: Sure - I've not been in a meeting before, so my apologies if I'm a bit slow to catch up | |||
[9:15pm] Bluestreak: Glad to hear it | |||
[9:15pm] MassKopimiPP: | |||
[9:15pm] js0000: no worries, we're all slow | |||
[9:15pm] jokeefe: Ok, events | |||
[9:16pm] jokeefe: Got the Cryptoparty on Sat. | |||
[9:16pm] jokeefe: ACLU posted about it | |||
[9:16pm] Bluestreak: Never got one damn flyer up sorry | |||
[9:16pm] Bluestreak: too sick | |||
[9:16pm] js0000: i think cryptoparties may be very helpful to masspirates | |||
[9:16pm] Bluestreak: Kevin G reached out | |||
[9:16pm] Bluestreak: He wants to help in the future | |||
[9:16pm] jokeefe: no problem, Bluestreak, there is next month | |||
[9:17pm] jokeefe: 8/24 Boston Peace Festival - anyone willing to table it? i know it is short notice. | |||
[9:17pm] Bluestreak: I will ask Kate to update her flyer with the new info for Sept | |||
[9:17pm] • srevilak is very determined to make cryptoparties a monthly thing | |||
[9:17pm] Bluestreak: ++ | |||
[9:18pm] jokeefe: srevilak, agreed. may want to have one be a train the trainers | |||
[9:18pm] jokeefe: so we broaden the people who can do them. | |||
[9:18pm] MassKopimiPP: i cant make the cryptoparty, ill be at hampton beach but i hope it becomes a monthly thing, id like to make it to one definately, 2 hr trip or so | |||
[9:18pm] Igel: you are busy tomorrow srevilak | |||
[9:18pm] Bluestreak: Like I said Kevin volunteered, Steve, reach out to him | |||
[9:19pm] srevilak: Bluestreak: can you send me his email? | |||
[9:19pm] Bluestreak: Right way | |||
[9:19pm] srevilak: thx | |||
[9:19pm] Bluestreak: kevin@ageispolis.net | |||
[9:21pm] Bluestreak: AND I emailed it to ya. | |||
[9:21pm] Igel: yop | |||
[9:22pm] jokeefe: not hearing anyone can make the Boston Peace Festival. Will see if MassOps will be there. | |||
[9:23pm] Bluestreak: I think I have been going out too much. I shouldn't have gone to the Arroyo event | |||
[9:23pm] Bluestreak: I paid for it today. | |||
[9:23pm] jokeefe: General Meeting, 9/1 or 9/8, Haven't heard from everyone. srevilak cannot make either. Waiting until 9/22 is pretty late. | |||
[9:23pm] Bluestreak: 9/1 works best for us | |||
[9:24pm] jokeefe: most votes for 9/1, does that work or move to 9/22 or 9/29? | |||
[9:24pm] js0000: i cannot make 9/1 but i'm optional | |||
[9:24pm] Bluestreak: That will be 8 weeks | |||
[9:24pm] jokeefe: 9/1 then | |||
[9:24pm] oneiros: Are we talking meatspace or here? | |||
[9:24pm] Bluestreak: LOL | |||
[9:24pm] Bluestreak: meatspace | |||
[9:24pm] oneiros: Oh | |||
[9:24pm] oneiros: Rats | |||
[9:25pm] jokeefe: sorry, srevilak, could be bring you in via video or audio? | |||
[9:25pm] jokeefe: it is outside Boston oneiros | |||
[9:25pm] Igel: thats funny heh | |||
[9:25pm] Bluestreak: We should totally video conference | |||
[9:25pm] Bluestreak: How Pirate is that | |||
[9:25pm] Bluestreak: ? | |||
[9:25pm] js0000: or somekinda link | |||
[9:25pm] js0000: audio | |||
[9:25pm] Igel: heh | |||
[9:25pm] js0000: text | |||
[9:25pm] js0000: something | |||
[9:26pm] oneiros: Boston is a bit of a hard sell for me at the moment | |||
[9:26pm] js0000: right, we have the computers and network ... | |||
[9:26pm] Bluestreak: Deerfield to Medway? about 2 hours sry | |||
[9:26pm] Bluestreak: We are working on moving west | |||
[9:26pm] oneiros: No need to apologize, I'm quite the outsider here | |||
[9:26pm] Bluestreak: Scorpion Bowl is in Holyoke | |||
[9:26pm] MassKopimiPP: good | |||
[9:26pm] Kendra: i am going to be out of town again. I can video conference in on 9/1.. | |||
[9:26pm] Igel: oneiros: your the man now dogg! moving headquarters to you ehh heh.. | |||
[9:26pm] Bluestreak: November 9th | |||
[9:26pm] oneiros: LOL - well, UMass campus is just down the road | |||
[9:27pm] Bluestreak: mark your calendar | |||
[9:27pm] srevilak: jokeefe: no problem. I *may* be able to make it on 9/1. Will let you know | |||
[9:27pm] jokeefe: thanks | |||
[9:27pm] jokeefe: anyone know of a good video chat system, beside google hangout? | |||
[9:27pm] MassKopimiPP: im a no show but only because of distance | |||
[9:27pm] jokeefe: and skype | |||
[9:28pm] Bluestreak: LOL | |||
[9:28pm] js0000: maybe pirate account can tweet #masspirates | |||
[9:28pm] oneiros: Well, funny you should ask | |||
[9:28pm] MassKopimiPP: you could try Unsene | |||
[9:28pm] oneiros: Jitsi, perhaps | |||
[9:28pm] Igel: oneiros i was mailing ppl re: univ to recruit masspirate votes | |||
[9:28pm] JCFiero: lol what not use Google hangout.. so easy.. so compromised?\ | |||
[9:28pm] jokeefe: well, if we do a video chat, would could always post it so it wouldn't matter if the NSA gets it | |||
[9:28pm] Bluestreak: Exactly | |||
[9:28pm] jokeefe: party of open and all | |||
[9:29pm] Bluestreak: Hangout Jason and I could set up here | |||
[9:29pm] Kendra: https://jitsi.org/ | |||
[9:29pm] MassKopimiPP: https://unsene.com/# | |||
[9:29pm] Bluestreak: We were JUST talking about setting up a hangout when jokeefe said beside google hangout lol | |||
[9:29pm] jokeefe: duh, thanks Kendra | |||
[9:29pm] Bluestreak: IDK how to USE those | |||
[9:29pm] MassKopimiPP: never tried video tho fyi | |||
[9:30pm] jokeefe: lets do a test and see what works. | |||
[9:30pm] oneiros: Something that doesn't require an account with a megacorp would be good, though, regardless of posting the resulting feed | |||
[9:30pm] Bluestreak: Who knows how to use those? | |||
[9:30pm] Bluestreak: and will they come out early to help us set it up? | |||
[9:30pm] js0000: maybe also consider lower bandwidth tech too | |||
[9:30pm] jokeefe: moving on - Freedom Rally, September 14 & 15 - who will table? | |||
[9:30pm] Bluestreak: Jason and I are spearheading that | |||
[9:31pm] Bluestreak: set up both days but we NEED SUPPORT | |||
[9:31pm] MassKopimiPP: whats the freedom rally? | |||
[9:31pm] Bluestreak: step up ppl important event, lots of exposure | |||
[9:31pm] MassKopimiPP: im new to mass in general so excuse my ignorance guys | |||
[9:31pm] Bluestreak: Boston's version og HempFest | |||
[9:31pm] oneiros: Also -where- is it... oh | |||
[9:31pm] Bluestreak: of | |||
[9:31pm] Bluestreak: on the common | |||
[9:31pm] JCFiero: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Rally | |||
[9:31pm] oneiros: Nevermind - need to steer clear of raves | |||
[9:32pm] Bluestreak: orly? OK | |||
[9:32pm] jokeefe: way more tame than a rave | |||
[9:32pm] Bluestreak: Just ppl at tables | |||
[9:32pm] jokeefe: anyone able to write up a post on us being there? | |||
[9:32pm] Bluestreak: and stoners blazing | |||
[9:32pm] Igel: there will be metal bands. | |||
[9:32pm] Bluestreak: Yeah, this is out baby | |||
[9:32pm] Igel: waaf goes, etc.. | |||
[9:32pm] Bluestreak: our | |||
[9:33pm] Bluestreak: I will get one out tonight | |||
[9:33pm] Bluestreak: If Jason feeds me | |||
[9:33pm] Bluestreak: :-DDD | |||
[9:33pm] Bluestreak: lol | |||
[9:34pm] jokeefe: need a form. will set one up for you. | |||
[9:34pm] MassKopimiPP: id love to help at FR but I may be in NY visiting family | |||
[9:34pm] jokeefe: for those not on face book | |||
[9:34pm] Bluestreak: jokeefe form for me? | |||
[9:34pm] oneiros: Form? | |||
[9:34pm] jokeefe: for the FR post | |||
[9:34pm] jokeefe: sign up | |||
[9:34pm] Bluestreak: OK I'll be waiting on you | |||
[9:35pm] MassKopimiPP: im a maybe for freedom rally | |||
[9:35pm] jokeefe: Boston Software Freedom Day is Sat., Sept. 21st, 10:00 - 11:00 Protect Your Privacy in the Digital Age, by srevilak | |||
[9:36pm] jokeefe: great MassKopimiPP | |||
[9:36pm] jokeefe: you got a website MassKopimiPP | |||
[9:36pm] jokeefe: ? | |||
[9:36pm] Bluestreak: Sure hope you can help table. | |||
[9:37pm] Igel: srevilak: i thought that was tomorrow ----^ | |||
[9:37pm] jokeefe: I will be there Sunday at least | |||
[9:37pm] Igel: saying yo were going o be pretty busy | |||
[9:37pm] jokeefe: Not sure what Sat. schedule is yet | |||
[9:38pm] jokeefe: Sept is busy | |||
[9:39pm] Bluestreak: So long as you can spell us for a couple of hours on Sunday, that would be great | |||
[9:39pm] jokeefe: srevilak, LibrePlanet Free Software Meeting is 9/28, roughly? | |||
[9:39pm] jokeefe: will do, Bluestreak | |||
[9:39pm] jokeefe: hopefully more | |||
[9:40pm] srevilak: jokeefe: you mean linux meeting with Will Rico? | |||
[9:40pm] Bluestreak: OK we may have a conflict the weekend of the 28th. | |||
[9:40pm] jokeefe: yes | |||
[9:40pm] Bluestreak: Jason and I have a thing in NH | |||
[9:40pm] jokeefe: good for you | |||
[9:40pm] srevilak: 9/28 is cjdns cryptoparty | |||
[9:40pm] Bluestreak: I KNOW | |||
[9:40pm] Bluestreak: We really wanted to do that! | |||
[9:40pm] jokeefe: ok, sorry, I was confused | |||
[9:41pm] Bluestreak: No we have a conflict | |||
[9:41pm] Bluestreak: OK wait | |||
[9:41pm] Bluestreak: NVM | |||
[9:41pm] Bluestreak: No we are commited to the thing in NH | |||
[9:41pm] srevilak: jokeefe: you're speaking to boston linux desktop group on Nov 6th | |||
[9:43pm] jokeefe: Do you have details on the cjdns cryptoparty? I cannot find them in my email | |||
[9:43pm] srevilak: It's 9/28. I have to work on logistics. Will do this weekend | |||
[9:43pm] Igel: sunday you should have em | |||
[9:44pm] oneiros: Please keep me in the loop on the cjdns gig | |||
[9:44pm] MassKopimiPP: so the next cryptoparty is 9/28? | |||
[9:44pm] jokeefe: yes, after the one on Sat. | |||
[9:44pm] Igel: following this saturday | |||
[9:44pm] srevilak: MassKopimiPP: yes 9/28. cjdns cryptoparty | |||
[9:44pm] jokeefe: ok, last of the events - Digital Media Conference, Cambridge, Oct. 25-27 | |||
[9:45pm] jokeefe: Meeting with Jason tomorrow. | |||
[9:45pm] jokeefe: to talk logistics | |||
[9:45pm] Bluestreak: That looks to be really cool | |||
[9:45pm] Bluestreak: You need ppl to table right? | |||
[9:45pm] jokeefe: probably, and be on panels, do crypto party, etc. | |||
[9:46pm] jokeefe: panel suggestions? | |||
[9:46pm] jokeefe: here is the link to it - http://digitalmediaconference.org/2013/ | |||
[9:46pm] Igel: cool | |||
[9:47pm] Kendra: NSA Nightmares, Bradley Manning Verdict, Freedom of the Press Under the Surveillance state | |||
[9:47pm] srevilak: jokeefe: we could talk about `alternatives'. e.g. https://prism-break.org/ | |||
[9:48pm] srevilak: What would it take for _you_ to dump your NSA-compliant service provider? | |||
[9:48pm] oneiros: I would suggest a panel on educating the new generations as a part of general curriculum, but I couldn't offer to actually give such a panel, so... | |||
[9:48pm] Bluestreak: I am also interested in "the fifth estate" | |||
[9:48pm] Bluestreak: The new journalism | |||
[9:48pm] jokeefe: good ideas | |||
[9:49pm] Bluestreak: War on whistleblowers | |||
[9:49pm] jokeefe: Seeing that Jason is in the fourth/fifth estate, it will be covered | |||
[9:49pm] srevilak: Taking your data elsewhere as a form of civil disobedience | |||
[9:49pm] oneiros: Upping the SNR as civil disobedience? | |||
[9:50pm] srevilak: oneiros: SNR? | |||
[9:50pm] Bluestreak: Not many ppl can move their data easily srevilak | |||
[9:50pm] oneiros: Signal-to-noise-ratio | |||
[9:50pm] Bluestreak: Still don't know what you mean oneiros | |||
[9:50pm] Igel: interference | |||
[9:50pm] Kendra: Protocol for Activists Using the Online Services Under the Surveillance State | |||
[9:50pm] oneiros: Ok, well, simple way is that all the surveillance that goes on does so at a digital level - heuristics tools and algorithms and such | |||
[9:51pm] Igel: which is this Kendra? | |||
[9:51pm] Igel: sounds centralized | |||
[9:51pm] oneiros: So instead of hiding everything from the NSA, Google, etc, you intentionally give them massive amounts of noise | |||
[9:51pm] Kendra: Just suggesting panel topics for the digital conference | |||
[9:51pm] jokeefe: could also ask the panelists from Government Power in 2020 and Open Government to be on panels | |||
[9:51pm] MassKopimiPP: Attack on alternative sources of media http://www.vice.com/read/the-new-media-shield-law-only-shields-corporate-media | |||
[9:51pm] Igel: its relevant | |||
[9:51pm] oneiros: Searching things you don't care about, +1'ing and Liking and Retweeting garbage | |||
[9:52pm] jokeefe: good suggestions, I'll bring them up and see which ones they like. | |||
[9:52pm] Bluestreak: Exactly MassKopimiPP | |||
[9:52pm] Igel: what about TT? | |||
[9:53pm] srevilak: Bluestreak: agreed. Moving data is not easy. So, what will sufficiently motivate people to do it? | |||
[9:53pm] Bluestreak: what a time sink oneiros | |||
[9:53pm] oneiros: Teaching them how easy moving data actually is? | |||
[9:53pm] jokeefe: peer pressure | |||
[9:53pm] oneiros: Bluestreak: It can easily be automated | |||
[9:53pm] Bluestreak: Making it easy for them srevilak | |||
[9:53pm] oneiros: Firefox plugin "DoNotTrack" is one way | |||
[9:53pm] • Igel lost waht moving data | |||
[9:54pm] Bluestreak: I smell a crypto party! | |||
[9:54pm] Igel: is it on the site? | |||
[9:54pm] Igel: heh... |
Revision as of 20:55, 22 August 2013
Agenda
- Events
- 8/24 CryptoParty, 1pm - 3pm - e5, Boston - 9 Hamilton Place at Park st next to the Orpheum
- 8/24 Boston Peace Festival?
- General Meeting, 9/1?
- Freedom Rally, September 14 & 15 - Need organizers, announcement for volunteers
- Constitution Day Speakout, September 17, Boston
- Boston Software Freedom Day, Sat., Sept. 21st, 9:30am - 5:30pm
- CryptoParty, Sat., Sept. 28th, ?
- Digital Media Conference, Cambridge, Oct. 25-27
- LibrePlanet Free Software Meeting, Weds Nov 6th, evening, Jamie speaking on the "Dangers of the Surveillance State
- LibrePlanet Free Software Meeting, Weds Dec 4th, evening, Steve speaking
- Post-convention tasks
- Endorsements
- August Tasks http://piratenpad.de/SKwdoMqk26
- College Coordinators (black_van)
- Research what qualifies as an acceptable signature and other ballot access requirements
- Research DB & Community Site (Gregg)
- Get a list of the colleges in Mass. and what their requirements are to start a Pirate group (Kendra/William)
- Identify dates and requirements for 2014 Town & 2013 City elections
- Divide Mass. into 27 districts (Jason/John/William)
- Setup voter reg app (John)
- Min materials for College Groups
- Make How to Party videos
- Develop draft platform / planks
- Media strategy
Participants
- jokeefe
- Igel
- Kendra
- srevilak
Observers:
- davidd
- Shidash
- oneirosFade
Summary
Meeting Minutes
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[9:11pm] jokeefe: Ok, sorry for the delay - agenda: http://masspirates.org/wiki/August_22nd,_2013_IRC_Meeting [9:12pm] jokeefe: ids - James O'Keefe, Somerville [9:12pm] Igel: oh no it went to... email [9:12pm] js0000: Igel: i've been communicating with srevilak jokeefe about this [9:12pm] Bluestreak: Lucia Fiero, Medway [9:12pm] js0000: john saylor 'watch city' [waltham] [9:12pm] • Igel fell off the planet bout it [9:13pm] JCFiero: Jason Fiero - Medway MA [9:13pm] srevilak: Steve Revilak, Arlington [9:13pm] Igel: William Fleurant, Arlington MA [9:13pm] Bluestreak: oneiros [9:13pm] oneiros: Yes? [9:13pm] Bluestreak: ID? [9:13pm] Kendra: Kendra Moyer Arlington [9:14pm] jokeefe: as much as you want [9:14pm] MassKopimiPP: Adam Seaman Southwick [9:14pm] oneiros: Dragone, Deerfield (Good enough? New to this) [9:14pm] Bluestreak: I'm fine with that [9:14pm] Bluestreak: Adam, I thought you were leaving us? [9:15pm] srevilak: MassKopimiPP changed his mind [9:15pm] jokeefe: thank you oneiros [9:15pm] jokeefe: good to have someone from well outside Boston [9:15pm] oneiros: Sure - I've not been in a meeting before, so my apologies if I'm a bit slow to catch up [9:15pm] Bluestreak: Glad to hear it [9:15pm] MassKopimiPP: [9:15pm] js0000: no worries, we're all slow [9:15pm] jokeefe: Ok, events [9:16pm] jokeefe: Got the Cryptoparty on Sat. [9:16pm] jokeefe: ACLU posted about it [9:16pm] Bluestreak: Never got one damn flyer up sorry [9:16pm] Bluestreak: too sick [9:16pm] js0000: i think cryptoparties may be very helpful to masspirates [9:16pm] Bluestreak: Kevin G reached out [9:16pm] Bluestreak: He wants to help in the future [9:16pm] jokeefe: no problem, Bluestreak, there is next month [9:17pm] jokeefe: 8/24 Boston Peace Festival - anyone willing to table it? i know it is short notice. [9:17pm] Bluestreak: I will ask Kate to update her flyer with the new info for Sept [9:17pm] • srevilak is very determined to make cryptoparties a monthly thing [9:17pm] Bluestreak: ++ [9:18pm] jokeefe: srevilak, agreed. may want to have one be a train the trainers [9:18pm] jokeefe: so we broaden the people who can do them. [9:18pm] MassKopimiPP: i cant make the cryptoparty, ill be at hampton beach but i hope it becomes a monthly thing, id like to make it to one definately, 2 hr trip or so [9:18pm] Igel: you are busy tomorrow srevilak [9:18pm] Bluestreak: Like I said Kevin volunteered, Steve, reach out to him [9:19pm] srevilak: Bluestreak: can you send me his email? [9:19pm] Bluestreak: Right way [9:19pm] srevilak: thx [9:19pm] Bluestreak: kevin@ageispolis.net [9:21pm] Bluestreak: AND I emailed it to ya. [9:21pm] Igel: yop [9:22pm] jokeefe: not hearing anyone can make the Boston Peace Festival. Will see if MassOps will be there. [9:23pm] Bluestreak: I think I have been going out too much. I shouldn't have gone to the Arroyo event [9:23pm] Bluestreak: I paid for it today. [9:23pm] jokeefe: General Meeting, 9/1 or 9/8, Haven't heard from everyone. srevilak cannot make either. Waiting until 9/22 is pretty late. [9:23pm] Bluestreak: 9/1 works best for us [9:24pm] jokeefe: most votes for 9/1, does that work or move to 9/22 or 9/29? [9:24pm] js0000: i cannot make 9/1 but i'm optional [9:24pm] Bluestreak: That will be 8 weeks [9:24pm] jokeefe: 9/1 then [9:24pm] oneiros: Are we talking meatspace or here? [9:24pm] Bluestreak: LOL [9:24pm] Bluestreak: meatspace [9:24pm] oneiros: Oh [9:24pm] oneiros: Rats [9:25pm] jokeefe: sorry, srevilak, could be bring you in via video or audio? [9:25pm] jokeefe: it is outside Boston oneiros [9:25pm] Igel: thats funny heh [9:25pm] Bluestreak: We should totally video conference [9:25pm] Bluestreak: How Pirate is that [9:25pm] Bluestreak: ? [9:25pm] js0000: or somekinda link [9:25pm] js0000: audio [9:25pm] Igel: heh [9:25pm] js0000: text [9:25pm] js0000: something [9:26pm] oneiros: Boston is a bit of a hard sell for me at the moment [9:26pm] js0000: right, we have the computers and network ... [9:26pm] Bluestreak: Deerfield to Medway? about 2 hours sry [9:26pm] Bluestreak: We are working on moving west [9:26pm] oneiros: No need to apologize, I'm quite the outsider here [9:26pm] Bluestreak: Scorpion Bowl is in Holyoke [9:26pm] MassKopimiPP: good [9:26pm] Kendra: i am going to be out of town again. I can video conference in on 9/1.. [9:26pm] Igel: oneiros: your the man now dogg! moving headquarters to you ehh heh.. [9:26pm] Bluestreak: November 9th [9:26pm] oneiros: LOL - well, UMass campus is just down the road [9:27pm] Bluestreak: mark your calendar [9:27pm] srevilak: jokeefe: no problem. I *may* be able to make it on 9/1. Will let you know [9:27pm] jokeefe: thanks [9:27pm] jokeefe: anyone know of a good video chat system, beside google hangout? [9:27pm] MassKopimiPP: im a no show but only because of distance [9:27pm] jokeefe: and skype [9:28pm] Bluestreak: LOL [9:28pm] js0000: maybe pirate account can tweet #masspirates [9:28pm] oneiros: Well, funny you should ask [9:28pm] MassKopimiPP: you could try Unsene [9:28pm] oneiros: Jitsi, perhaps [9:28pm] Igel: oneiros i was mailing ppl re: univ to recruit masspirate votes [9:28pm] JCFiero: lol what not use Google hangout.. so easy.. so compromised?\ [9:28pm] jokeefe: well, if we do a video chat, would could always post it so it wouldn't matter if the NSA gets it [9:28pm] Bluestreak: Exactly [9:28pm] jokeefe: party of open and all [9:29pm] Bluestreak: Hangout Jason and I could set up here [9:29pm] Kendra: https://jitsi.org/ [9:29pm] MassKopimiPP: https://unsene.com/# [9:29pm] Bluestreak: We were JUST talking about setting up a hangout when jokeefe said beside google hangout lol [9:29pm] jokeefe: duh, thanks Kendra [9:29pm] Bluestreak: IDK how to USE those [9:29pm] MassKopimiPP: never tried video tho fyi [9:30pm] jokeefe: lets do a test and see what works. [9:30pm] oneiros: Something that doesn't require an account with a megacorp would be good, though, regardless of posting the resulting feed [9:30pm] Bluestreak: Who knows how to use those? [9:30pm] Bluestreak: and will they come out early to help us set it up? [9:30pm] js0000: maybe also consider lower bandwidth tech too [9:30pm] jokeefe: moving on - Freedom Rally, September 14 & 15 - who will table? [9:30pm] Bluestreak: Jason and I are spearheading that [9:31pm] Bluestreak: set up both days but we NEED SUPPORT [9:31pm] MassKopimiPP: whats the freedom rally? [9:31pm] Bluestreak: step up ppl important event, lots of exposure [9:31pm] MassKopimiPP: im new to mass in general so excuse my ignorance guys [9:31pm] Bluestreak: Boston's version og HempFest [9:31pm] oneiros: Also -where- is it... oh [9:31pm] Bluestreak: of [9:31pm] Bluestreak: on the common [9:31pm] JCFiero: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Rally [9:31pm] oneiros: Nevermind - need to steer clear of raves [9:32pm] Bluestreak: orly? OK [9:32pm] jokeefe: way more tame than a rave [9:32pm] Bluestreak: Just ppl at tables [9:32pm] jokeefe: anyone able to write up a post on us being there? [9:32pm] Bluestreak: and stoners blazing [9:32pm] Igel: there will be metal bands. [9:32pm] Bluestreak: Yeah, this is out baby [9:32pm] Igel: waaf goes, etc.. [9:32pm] Bluestreak: our [9:33pm] Bluestreak: I will get one out tonight [9:33pm] Bluestreak: If Jason feeds me [9:33pm] Bluestreak: :-DDD [9:33pm] Bluestreak: lol [9:34pm] jokeefe: need a form. will set one up for you. [9:34pm] MassKopimiPP: id love to help at FR but I may be in NY visiting family [9:34pm] jokeefe: for those not on face book [9:34pm] Bluestreak: jokeefe form for me? [9:34pm] oneiros: Form? [9:34pm] jokeefe: for the FR post [9:34pm] jokeefe: sign up [9:34pm] Bluestreak: OK I'll be waiting on you [9:35pm] MassKopimiPP: im a maybe for freedom rally [9:35pm] jokeefe: Boston Software Freedom Day is Sat., Sept. 21st, 10:00 - 11:00 Protect Your Privacy in the Digital Age, by srevilak [9:36pm] jokeefe: great MassKopimiPP [9:36pm] jokeefe: you got a website MassKopimiPP [9:36pm] jokeefe: ? [9:36pm] Bluestreak: Sure hope you can help table. [9:37pm] Igel: srevilak: i thought that was tomorrow ----^ [9:37pm] jokeefe: I will be there Sunday at least [9:37pm] Igel: saying yo were going o be pretty busy [9:37pm] jokeefe: Not sure what Sat. schedule is yet [9:38pm] jokeefe: Sept is busy [9:39pm] Bluestreak: So long as you can spell us for a couple of hours on Sunday, that would be great [9:39pm] jokeefe: srevilak, LibrePlanet Free Software Meeting is 9/28, roughly? [9:39pm] jokeefe: will do, Bluestreak [9:39pm] jokeefe: hopefully more [9:40pm] srevilak: jokeefe: you mean linux meeting with Will Rico? [9:40pm] Bluestreak: OK we may have a conflict the weekend of the 28th. [9:40pm] jokeefe: yes [9:40pm] Bluestreak: Jason and I have a thing in NH [9:40pm] jokeefe: good for you [9:40pm] srevilak: 9/28 is cjdns cryptoparty [9:40pm] Bluestreak: I KNOW [9:40pm] Bluestreak: We really wanted to do that! [9:40pm] jokeefe: ok, sorry, I was confused [9:41pm] Bluestreak: No we have a conflict [9:41pm] Bluestreak: OK wait [9:41pm] Bluestreak: NVM [9:41pm] Bluestreak: No we are commited to the thing in NH [9:41pm] srevilak: jokeefe: you're speaking to boston linux desktop group on Nov 6th [9:43pm] jokeefe: Do you have details on the cjdns cryptoparty? I cannot find them in my email [9:43pm] srevilak: It's 9/28. I have to work on logistics. Will do this weekend [9:43pm] Igel: sunday you should have em [9:44pm] oneiros: Please keep me in the loop on the cjdns gig [9:44pm] MassKopimiPP: so the next cryptoparty is 9/28? [9:44pm] jokeefe: yes, after the one on Sat. [9:44pm] Igel: following this saturday [9:44pm] srevilak: MassKopimiPP: yes 9/28. cjdns cryptoparty [9:44pm] jokeefe: ok, last of the events - Digital Media Conference, Cambridge, Oct. 25-27 [9:45pm] jokeefe: Meeting with Jason tomorrow. [9:45pm] jokeefe: to talk logistics [9:45pm] Bluestreak: That looks to be really cool [9:45pm] Bluestreak: You need ppl to table right? [9:45pm] jokeefe: probably, and be on panels, do crypto party, etc. [9:46pm] jokeefe: panel suggestions? [9:46pm] jokeefe: here is the link to it - http://digitalmediaconference.org/2013/ [9:46pm] Igel: cool [9:47pm] Kendra: NSA Nightmares, Bradley Manning Verdict, Freedom of the Press Under the Surveillance state [9:47pm] srevilak: jokeefe: we could talk about `alternatives'. e.g. https://prism-break.org/ [9:48pm] srevilak: What would it take for _you_ to dump your NSA-compliant service provider? [9:48pm] oneiros: I would suggest a panel on educating the new generations as a part of general curriculum, but I couldn't offer to actually give such a panel, so... [9:48pm] Bluestreak: I am also interested in "the fifth estate" [9:48pm] Bluestreak: The new journalism [9:48pm] jokeefe: good ideas [9:49pm] Bluestreak: War on whistleblowers [9:49pm] jokeefe: Seeing that Jason is in the fourth/fifth estate, it will be covered [9:49pm] srevilak: Taking your data elsewhere as a form of civil disobedience [9:49pm] oneiros: Upping the SNR as civil disobedience? [9:50pm] srevilak: oneiros: SNR? [9:50pm] Bluestreak: Not many ppl can move their data easily srevilak [9:50pm] oneiros: Signal-to-noise-ratio [9:50pm] Bluestreak: Still don't know what you mean oneiros [9:50pm] Igel: interference [9:50pm] Kendra: Protocol for Activists Using the Online Services Under the Surveillance State [9:50pm] oneiros: Ok, well, simple way is that all the surveillance that goes on does so at a digital level - heuristics tools and algorithms and such [9:51pm] Igel: which is this Kendra? [9:51pm] Igel: sounds centralized [9:51pm] oneiros: So instead of hiding everything from the NSA, Google, etc, you intentionally give them massive amounts of noise [9:51pm] Kendra: Just suggesting panel topics for the digital conference [9:51pm] jokeefe: could also ask the panelists from Government Power in 2020 and Open Government to be on panels [9:51pm] MassKopimiPP: Attack on alternative sources of media http://www.vice.com/read/the-new-media-shield-law-only-shields-corporate-media [9:51pm] Igel: its relevant [9:51pm] oneiros: Searching things you don't care about, +1'ing and Liking and Retweeting garbage [9:52pm] jokeefe: good suggestions, I'll bring them up and see which ones they like. [9:52pm] Bluestreak: Exactly MassKopimiPP [9:52pm] Igel: what about TT? [9:53pm] srevilak: Bluestreak: agreed. Moving data is not easy. So, what will sufficiently motivate people to do it? [9:53pm] Bluestreak: what a time sink oneiros [9:53pm] oneiros: Teaching them how easy moving data actually is? [9:53pm] jokeefe: peer pressure [9:53pm] oneiros: Bluestreak: It can easily be automated [9:53pm] Bluestreak: Making it easy for them srevilak [9:53pm] oneiros: Firefox plugin "DoNotTrack" is one way [9:53pm] • Igel lost waht moving data [9:54pm] Bluestreak: I smell a crypto party! [9:54pm] Igel: is it on the site? [9:54pm] Igel: heh...