June 21st, 2012 IRC Meeting

Agenda

1. Upcoming Events

2. Should we provide a VPN for members?

3. National Party News

4. Anything else folks want to bring up

Quick Notes / Summaries Re Proposed Bills to be Discussed:

1. Upcoming Events

• Pirate lunch - Monday, June 25th at noon in Cambridge
• Liquid Feedback Hackathon - Sunday, July 1st, starting at 3pm
• July In-person meeting - Poll - http://www.doodle.com/sy65v4u4zdstnw7q

2. Should we provide a VPN for members?

There is an opportunity for Massachusetts Pirate Party to offer a low-cost VPN service to our members. Some of the other state parties are interested and will pursue this option.

A VPN service can be used to protect a member's privacy. For example, you can browse certain websites and use a protocol such as BitTorrent through your VPN provider. Your computer will have an encrypted communication to the VPN server and someone trying to snoop on your connection will be unable to tell what you are doing.

This is managed by PPI (Pirate Parties International). The VPN service would allow members to pay with multiple currencies including Bitcoin, but they could also use a regular credit card. The cost is as low as $5 per month. Mass Pirate Party would receive half of the proceeds so we would have to ensure that we are complying with campaign finance laws.

3. National Party News

erixoltan wrote:

   At this week's PNC meeting there was a question about whether the Mass
   Pirate Party would like to participate in a joint event involving
   multiple state parties on the Internet. Each state party would get
   together at a certain location and we'd have something along the lines
   of a Google+ hangout. Proposed dates were July 21 and 28.

Attending

Place holders

• jokeefe - James O'Keefe, Somerville
• SplendidSpoon - Lauren Pespisa, Boxboro/Cambridge
• erixoltan - Erik Zoltan, Framingham
• wingedearth -

Observers:

• [bsod]
• brandon
• illunatic
• [Derek]

Summary

1. Upcoming Events

2. Should we provide a VPN for members?

3. National Party News

4. Anything else folks want to bring up

Meeting Minutes

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[12:02] <@jokeefe> BTW: Agenda - http://masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=June_21st,_2012_IRC_Meeting [12:02] <@SplendidSpoon> I am now [12:02] <@jokeefe> good [12:02] <@SplendidSpoon> But my car doesn't have it [12:02] <@jokeefe> ugh [12:02] <@SplendidSpoon> so it was a brutal drive [12:02] <@jokeefe> all the more reason to move closer to work :-) [12:03] <@SplendidSpoon> yep [12:03] <@jokeefe> MBTA has AC, generally [12:03] <@jokeefe> I was surprised that my house was at least ten degrees cooler when I got home yesterday. [12:05] <@SplendidSpoon> cool. yea my house has good AC also. Geothermal [12:05] <@jokeefe> NICE! [12:06] <@SplendidSpoon> Yea it's cool the hotter it is outside the cooler the house is actually because of some differential thing [12:06] <@jokeefe> The Artisan's Asylum has it as well for heating and cooling [12:06] <@SplendidSpoon> interesting [12:06] <@SplendidSpoon> I thought you need a private well for that... [12:06] <@SplendidSpoon> I mean, we use our well for it, maybe there's another method [12:07] <@jokeefe> it was already installed at the site they are renting [12:08] <@jokeefe> ok, lets get this show on the road [12:08] <@SplendidSpoon> ok [12:09] <@jokeefe> 1. Upcoming Events [12:09] <@jokeefe> Pirate lunch - Monday, June 25th at noon in Cambridge Liquid Feedback Hackathon - Sunday, July 1st, starting at 3pm July In-person meeting - Poll - http://www.doodle.com/sy65v4u4zdstnw7q [12:09] == erixoltan [~erixoltan@hknv-28-026-620-99.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #masspirates [12:09] == mode/#masspirates [+o erixoltan] by [4Q] [12:09] == mode/#masspirates [+v erixoltan] by [4Q] [12:09] <@erixoltan> Hi [12:09] <@jokeefe> hey, erixoltan! [12:09] == mode/#masspirates [+l 16] by [4Q] [12:09] <@jokeefe> just starting [12:09] <@erixoltan> Sorry was on old server [12:10] <@jokeefe> anyone else there? [12:11] <@jokeefe> guess not [12:11] <@jokeefe> just checked [12:11] <@jokeefe> Anyway - Upcoming events [12:11] <@jokeefe> Pirate lunch monday [12:11] <@jokeefe> Liquid Feedback Hackathon following Sunday [12:12] <@jokeefe> July in-person meeting poll up [12:12] <@jokeefe> Hope you all can make them/provide input on the vote [12:13] <@erixoltan> I will be at the hackathon [12:13] <@erixoltan> May be late for lunch but plan to go [12:13] <@SplendidSpoon> I want to be, there's a fare strike action that day though. [12:14] <@SplendidSpoon> Not sure what time, I think the socialists are doing it. [12:14] <@jokeefe> yes, there are always more than one event going on :-) [12:15] == wingedearth_ [webchat@38.111.xr.ug] has joined #masspirates [12:15] == mode/#masspirates [+v wingedearth_] by [4Q] [12:15] <@jokeefe> hey wingedearth! [12:15] <+wingedearth_> hello? [12:15] == mode/#masspirates [+l 17] by [4Q] [12:15] <+wingedearth_> what's happenin? [12:15] <@erixoltan> When your socialist and anarchist friends get together do they have loud arguments? [12:15] <+wingedearth_> I can never remember the server name here [12:15] <@jokeefe> just going over our current events [12:15] <+wingedearth_> I thought it was irc.freenode.net [12:16] <@SplendidSpoon> We switched [12:16] <@jokeefe> agenda at http://masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=June_21st,_2012_IRC_Meeting [12:16] <+wingedearth_> so what's it now? [12:16] <@jokeefe> pirateirc.net [12:16] <+wingedearth_> ok, lemme switch to colloquy [12:17] <@erixoltan> I use ashburn-us.pirateirc.net [12:17] == wingedearth [~andrew@ltsxwh-357-937-966-842.mycingular.net] has joined #masspirates [12:17] == mode/#masspirates [+v wingedearth] by [4Q] [12:17] <+wingedearth> here I am [12:17] == mode/#masspirates [+l 18] by [4Q] [12:18] <+wingedearth> pirateirc.net didn't work, but the ash burn one did [12:18] <@erixoltan> Cool [12:18] == wingedearth_ [webchat@38.111.xr.ug] has quit [Client Quit] [12:18] <@SplendidSpoon> weird mine works just fine [12:18] <+wingedearth> maybe I'm doing something wrong [12:19] <+wingedearth> so I've been on this big free&open software kick [12:19] <@jokeefe> cool [12:19] <+wingedearth> have been transitioning all my main apps over [12:19] <+wingedearth> it took all day yesterday to switch from Apple Mail to Thunderbird [12:19] <@jokeefe> sigh [12:19] <@erixoltan> USPP is excited about our hackathon [12:19] <@jokeefe> cool [12:20] <@jokeefe> should we live stream it? [12:20] <@erixoltan> No, we should keep notes so they can replicate. [12:20] <@jokeefe> works for me [12:21] <@jokeefe> speaking of uspp, that brings us to 2. Should we provide a VPN for members? [12:21] <+wingedearth> then I've got RSSOwl, Adium, OpenOffice, Transmission, Cyberduck, Firefox, Colloquy, Scribus, Skim, Handbrake, VLC, Songbird, Audacity [12:21] <@jokeefe> how is Scribus? [12:21] <+wingedearth> haven't tried it yet [12:21] <+wingedearth> just downloaded it yesterday [12:21] <+wingedearth> I'm writing a novel, so will work on layout in Scribus when I'm done [12:22] <+wingedearth> Songbird is pretty good. I did not like Miro [12:22] <+wingedearth> Transmission > Vuze [12:22] <@SplendidSpoon> brb boss talking to me [12:22] <@jokeefe> I'll have to look it up then. [12:22] <@jokeefe> k, SplendidSpoon [12:22] <@[4Q]> jokeefe there is no spoon [12:22] <@erixoltan> So on the VPN [12:22] <@jokeefe> yes [12:23] == kitwalsh [webchat@sxul-280-387-303-72.fas.harvard.edu] has joined #masspirates [12:23] <@jokeefe> there are two issues that I can see [12:23] == mode/#masspirates [+v kitwalsh] by [4Q] [12:23] <@jokeefe> hey kitwalsh! [12:23] <@erixoltan> I was going to volunteer to be a guinea pig [12:23] == mode/#masspirates [+l 18] by [4Q] [12:23] <+kitwalsh> hi everybody! [12:23] <@jokeefe> sounds good erixoltan. got a sniffer? [12:23] <@erixoltan> No why? [12:24] <@jokeefe> to make sure the vpn really is encrypted [12:24] <@erixoltan> Oh I will sign up and check. [12:24] <@jokeefe> i am sure it is, but would be good to verify [12:24] <+wingedearth> is this for sharing files amongst masspirates? [12:25] <@jokeefe> see item 2 in http://masspirates.org/wiki/index.php?title=June_21st,_2012_IRC_Meeting [12:25] <@erixoltan> My idea was to see what info they provide and you can determine if you see problems. [12:25] <@jokeefe> PPInt offering VPN to state/national parties that can use it for members [12:25] <@jokeefe> some of the fees would be given to state/national party that referred them. [12:26] <@erixoltan> The goal of VPN would be to provide privacy to our members and raise money. [12:26] <+wingedearth> sounds fine and dandy [12:26] <@jokeefe> I think testing it out and seeing what info we get would help iron out any questions we have. [12:27] <@jokeefe> I can create an email vpn@masspirates.org and we can go from there. [12:27] <@jokeefe> we probably would need to setup a page to capture any info not collected. [12:27] <@jokeefe> to comply with campaign finance laws [12:28] <@erixoltan> Cool [12:28] <@erixoltan> Should we ask Travis to move forward on a trial basis [12:28] <@jokeefe> I am not sure about bitcoins as payment or the fact that a corp is collecting the money and giving us a cut [12:28] <@erixoltan> And hold off on publicizing it? [12:28] <@jokeefe> Yes [12:29] <@erixoltan> K [12:29] <@jokeefe> I'll create the email tonight and point it to you & officers [12:29] <@jokeefe> for now [12:29] <@jokeefe> does that work for everyone else? [12:30] <+wingedearth> sure [12:30] <@erixoltan> Yup [12:31] <@erixoltan> Brb [12:31] <@jokeefe> SplendidSpoon? [12:31] <@[4Q]> jokeefe there is no spoon [12:31] <@erixoltan> back sorry [12:31] <+wingedearth> lol [12:32] <@erixoltan> darn ipad [12:32] <@jokeefe> I like keyboards [12:32] <@jokeefe> tactile keyboards [12:32] <@erixoltan> yeah I had to connect one and it made me exit [12:33] <@jokeefe> ugh [12:33] <@erixoltan> my toddler knows how to turn off bluetooth ,,,,,,, [12:33] <@jokeefe> sucks battery power, good eye [12:33] <@erixoltan> not to mention the stream of emails he sent my boss [12:33] <+wingedearth> iPads seem fun, but I prefer a laptop [12:33] <@jokeefe> kitwalsh, does this plan work? [12:34] <@jokeefe> Going once [12:35] <@jokeefe> Going twice [12:35] <+wingedearth> alternative to bitcoins? [12:35] <@jokeefe> really currency [12:35] <@jokeefe> real currency [12:35] <+wingedearth> IRL? [12:36] <+wingedearth> real currency? Like gold and silver? [12:36] <+wingedearth> or fiât paper [12:36] <@jokeefe> paper money and bits identified as dollars/euros/etc. [12:36] <+wingedearth> euros? might as well use toilet paper [12:37] <@jokeefe> seeing no objections, we move forward with a trial [12:37] <@jokeefe> Next 3. National Party News [12:37] <@jokeefe> would you talk about this erixoltan? [12:37] <@erixoltan> There is a major push to get the constitution ratified by July 4. Last night the PNC voted a two week extension to allow that to happen.